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Title: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 24, 2009, 01:33:54 AM
I'm checking around seeing if any experienced players would wish to play a cousin for my current character. PM me for more details if you're interested. This is a city elf role just so you know.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 24, 2009, 05:17:07 PM
The role has been filled. I will have roles open in the future for more family for this role, so stay tuned.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 01:22:27 PM
Posting three roles this time. A brother and two cousins. This is a city elf role and you ARE in a tribe. PM me for more details.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 02:16:15 PM
Adding to the oppurtunities above:

Brother/sister: Must be assassin
Cousins: Merchant/Warrior/Shadow Mage (any combination of these works)*Can be male or female*

Just wanted to add these specifications in there.

          --Titansfan
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: a strange shadow on January 30, 2009, 04:08:43 PM
Really should not a) specify that, or b) post that.

HEY EVERYBODY LOOK OUT FOR DROV-BUFFED ASSASSIN ELVES.

That's what you basically shouted out on the GDB.

Also, it's not very cool to "fill out" your tribe with convenient guilds.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Qzzrbl on January 30, 2009, 04:30:07 PM
Quote from: a strange shadow on January 30, 2009, 04:08:43 PM
Really should not a) specify that, or b) post that.

HEY EVERYBODY LOOK OUT FOR DROV-BUFFED ASSASSIN ELVES.

That's what you basically shouted out on the GDB.

Also, it's not very cool to "fill out" your tribe with convenient guilds.

I seriously didn't get that impression until you said something about it.

:(

::EDIT:: On another note, I suggest anyone looking for a role take one of these.

Titansfan's a pretty bitchin' guy to play with.

;D
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Lakota on January 30, 2009, 04:31:06 PM
Actually, I appreciate his throwing that out there shadow. Now I know where not to play for the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2009, 04:38:47 PM
Funny, 'cause now I know where to get the most interesting interaction now.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Thunkkin on January 30, 2009, 04:51:48 PM
Quote from: a strange shadow on January 30, 2009, 04:08:43 PM
HEY EVERYBODY LOOK OUT FOR DROV-BUFFED ASSASSIN ELVES.

No!  Fear the drov-buffed merchant elves!
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Semper on January 30, 2009, 04:55:05 PM
Quote from: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 02:16:15 PM
Adding to the oppurtunities above:

Brother/sister: Must be assassin
Cousins: Merchant/Warrior/Shadow Mage (any combination of these works)*Can be male or female*

Just wanted to add these specifications in there.

          --Titansfan

Quote from: a strange shadow...it's not very cool to "fill out" your tribe with convenient guilds.
I think this is the more likely reason why it's not generally done. Is the reason for this family role for the roleplay and interaction involved, or is it because you're lacking that particular boost or skill sets IG?

To be honest, it's hard to tell apart.

[Edited to add] If it's recruitment for a city-elven family, if there's a particular reason why only an assassin sibling (or other) is possible, it can be explained in the documentation you send to the player. Then wouldn't seem suspicious to some folks.

[Edited again] Then again, people have different expectations from these family roles. Personally, my only concern would be seeing a family conveniently with an assassin, pickpocket, burglar, merchant, ranger, all bound together with a family "trust". That situation wouldn't be too fair for the rest of the player base.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: staggerlee on January 30, 2009, 06:57:24 PM
Quote from: Semper on January 30, 2009, 04:55:05 PM
Quote from: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 02:16:15 PM
Adding to the oppurtunities above:

Brother/sister: Must be assassin
Cousins: Merchant/Warrior/Shadow Mage (any combination of these works)*Can be male or female*

Just wanted to add these specifications in there.

          --Titansfan

Quote from: a strange shadow...it's not very cool to "fill out" your tribe with convenient guilds.
I think this is the more likely reason why it's not generally done. Is the reason for this family role for the roleplay and interaction involved, or is it because you're lacking that particular boost or skill sets IG?

To be honest, it's hard to tell apart.

[Edited to add] If it's recruitment for a city-elven family, if there's a particular reason why only an assassin sibling (or other) is possible, it can be explained in the documentation you send to the player. Then wouldn't seem suspicious to some folks.

[Edited again] Then again, people have different expectations from these family roles. Personally, my only concern would be seeing a family conveniently with an assassin, pickpocket, burglar, merchant, ranger, all bound together with a family "trust". That situation wouldn't be too fair for the rest of the player base.

I would not think it ever appropriate to demand that family members play a specific class. There is no reason that you should know what class their character is to be.  They're filling a role, not a class spot in an adventuring party.

The only exception I could see would be in cases of characters that had been written into the history as a magicker of some kind, they can be a class as much as a role - it's not like your merchant can spit fire. In which case I'd bring up your requirement in PM, so that every player on the gdb didn't know the newest city elf clan had a drovian in it.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Clearsighted on January 30, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
I need a brother/sister who is absolutely loyal to the family. But only if they're a mindbending sorceror. Rangers or pickpockets can fuck off.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Dar on January 30, 2009, 10:08:08 PM
Quote from: Clearsighted on January 30, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
I need a brother/sister who is absolutely loyal to the family. But only if they're a mindbending sorceror. Rangers or pickpockets can fuck off.

They must also have atleast AI wisdom and endurance. If you rolled lower, suicide, and make a younger brother/sister.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
Okay I have the documentation to back it up, and why does everyone think that it's always about power-gaming. I personally could give a shit less about any of the stats or skills. On an rp level it's what I want brought to my tribe. I've been working my ass off trying to make this everyone that has wanted to play a tribed c-elf to be. Honestly because one person does something doesn't mean another will. They could all pick merchants for all I care. I just want the roles filled to flesh out my plans IG. So next time, instead of jumping to conclusions and burning the hell out of me ask for my damned docs. I'm surprised at you guys, I really am.

The roles are still open btw and no you don't have to be a shadow mage, be a merchant....I just want the family members. And I am an experienced player and am very responsible. These roles will not be hack and slash uber  power gaming things, if you're interested in that don't apply.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Semper on January 30, 2009, 10:34:04 PM
Quote from: titansfanI just want the roles filled to flesh out my plans IG.

;D It's your choice of words.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Clearsighted on January 30, 2009, 10:38:23 PM
Quote from: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 10:29:38 PM
Okay I have the documentation to back it up, and why does everyone think that it's always about power-gaming. I personally could give a shit less about any of the stats or skills. On an rp level it's what I want brought to my tribe. I've been working my ass off trying to make this everyone that has wanted to play a tribed c-elf to be. Honestly because one person does something doesn't mean another will. They could all pick merchants for all I care. I just want the roles filled to flesh out my plans IG. So next time, instead of jumping to conclusions and burning the hell out of me ask for my damned docs. I'm surprised at you guys, I really am.

The roles are still open btw and no you don't have to be a shadow mage, be a merchant....I just want the family members. And I am an experienced player and am very responsible. These roles will not be hack and slash uber  power gaming things, if you're interested in that don't apply.

In all honesty, I think most of us assumed you had the best of intentions. But the ramifications were still a little amusing. And I think all the press city-elves are getting lately from staff, means that this has potential to be alot of fun. Perhaps even revolutionizing.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
I'm done trying to explain it. I can't do anymore without giving up IC info. I guess trying to start something for c-elves was pointless. For the finally time just so everyone here that feels like flaming me.....I COULD GIVE A FUCK LESS ABOUT POWER. I WISH TO ESTABLISH A TRIBE FOR C-ELVES TO BE ABLE TO PLAY IN.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Riev on January 30, 2009, 10:45:15 PM
This thread seriously makes me disappointed in some people. A valid attempt at making a good tribe for c-elves, and it turned into some discussion about specific classes? Take it to General.

Titans, I may not be able to play, but I -do- sort of hope you play in my city, so I have someone to fear or kill. =)
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Well, I apologize for going off, but I've been working my ass off to try and make something out of this. And when I make roles available for the tribe I get shot down and ridiculed. It's a little disheartening for me to continue my work with this. I'm trying to help out those players who want more out of c-elves and those are my intentions. OOC especially. As for everyone who is helping me with contributions to my documentation and such, they can tell you that these roles are for specific roles within the tribe. They bring body to the tribe. In no means what so ever and I gonna go on a rampage and use my tribe against anyone. I gave the same options for my last role, the only thing is I specified through PM. I don't see the difference except for you all twisting my nuts over it.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: AmandaGreathouse on January 30, 2009, 11:02:12 PM
Well, I'm not much of a c-elf fan, at all, but I'm glad that you're putting in the work to show them some love. Thanks for your time and effort, and I hope you find great people to fill the roles for you.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: staggerlee on January 30, 2009, 11:07:42 PM
Quote from: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 10:45:58 PM
Well, I apologize for going off, but I've been working my ass off to try and make something out of this. And when I make roles available for the tribe I get shot down and ridiculed. It's a little disheartening for me to continue my work with this. I'm trying to help out those players who want more out of c-elves and those are my intentions. OOC especially. As for everyone who is helping me with contributions to my documentation and such, they can tell you that these roles are for specific roles within the tribe. They bring body to the tribe. In no means what so ever and I gonna go on a rampage and use my tribe against anyone. I gave the same options for my last role, the only thing is I specified through PM. I don't see the difference except for you all twisting my nuts over it.

Getting all fired up isn't going to help your cause yo.

My point was, and still is, that you need to distinguish between role and class.    Rather than ask for an elven assassin, ask for a city elf family member  - then in the details of their history, feel free to mention that they tended to skulk around killing people.  Leave it up to the player to decide what class would best represent that role.

It's the call for specific classes that has people worked up, and while they're not being particularly diplomatic it is something you want to be very wary of. 
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 11:14:33 PM
It makes me mad that I can't explain it to you...my docs make it clear. So next time ask questions, don't just leap on me. That's all I'm asking. It's like whenever you post on the GDB these days there are people just waiting to pounce and shoot you down.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2009, 11:18:48 PM
Welcome to the internet life. There will always be people waiting to pounce on you titansfan. If it's an IC thing, then just say that and leave it be. Your reaction was the one out of line, not theirs. Did they assume something not true? Sure, but who doesn't.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 11:20:17 PM
Well the roles are closed. So nobody needs to worry about my "mega doom team". Have Fun and Peace.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2009, 11:22:47 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2009, 11:20:50 PM
Honestly if you're losing heart because some people made a couple assumptions about your intentions, then maybe you didn't have all that much heart in it in the first place?

Besides, it's a forum. Fuck what other people think.

From t'other thread.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 30, 2009, 11:27:39 PM
I get your point though Gunslinger, I just didn't have a pleasant afternoon, and took things a bit too drastically. Shit happens. I apologize again to all of you.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Synthesis on January 30, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
I'd like to point out that there are at least 2 other elven tribes where particular sorts of magickers are sort of fundamental to the tribal experience, and are included in their docs as such.

Not only that, but creating a tribe with a Drovian magicker background is -far- from twinking out ahead of time.  As far as I'm concerned, they're positively the -least- useful type of magicker in any sort of PvP scenario.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: jcljules on January 30, 2009, 11:59:08 PM
I've played with titansfan in one of my clans before, and he is anything but a twink or a powergamer. Though it was only for a short time, I very much enjoyed play with his PC, which was done consistently and realistically. I'm not familiar with the tribe he's trying to create now, but I feel like people shouldn't assume he's trying to create some kind of power-squad. He's just looking for roles that fit within his tribe, and listed guilds that would work within it. So I don't think its right to complain about this announcement without all of the relevant information, especially since he's trying to create something ICly that most people in the community have agreed is lacking.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Thunkkin on January 31, 2009, 12:14:28 AM
Meh, don't give up.  You may very well be starting the next Byn or SLK.  Something that generations of characters will enjoy.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on January 31, 2009, 12:34:54 AM
I'll open the roles once again, they are two cousins and a brother/sister. PM for details.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Mood on January 31, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on January 30, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
Not only that, but creating a tribe with a Drovian magicker background is -far- from twinking out ahead of time.  As far as I'm concerned, they're positively the -least- useful type of magicker in any sort of PvP scenario.

This.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Semper on January 31, 2009, 10:15:04 AM
Quote from: Mood on January 31, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on January 30, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
Not only that, but creating a tribe with a Drovian magicker background is -far- from twinking out ahead of time.  As far as I'm concerned, they're positively the -least- useful type of magicker in any sort of PvP scenario.

This.

Maybe they're not meant for PvP.  ::)
/derail
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Mechafish on January 31, 2009, 11:25:03 AM
I have one thing to tell you.  Since I helped you the docs, I might be joining your megapower team/family.  But beware, I many not keep my word.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on February 01, 2009, 01:17:09 PM
Just bumping this, still have all roles open.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Shalooonsh on February 01, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: Mood on January 31, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on January 30, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
Not only that, but creating a tribe with a Drovian magicker background is -far- from twinking out ahead of time.  As far as I'm concerned, they're positively the -least- useful type of magicker in any sort of PvP scenario.

This.

I would just like to thank you both for the extreme amount of amusement you've given me today from reading this.

I can't stop laughing, really.  It's great.  Thanks so much.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Dar on February 01, 2009, 11:24:05 PM
Quote from: Shalooonsh on February 01, 2009, 03:57:48 PM
Quote from: Mood on January 31, 2009, 10:10:53 AM
Quote from: Synthesis on January 30, 2009, 11:35:23 PM
Not only that, but creating a tribe with a Drovian magicker background is -far- from twinking out ahead of time.  As far as I'm concerned, they're positively the -least- useful type of magicker in any sort of PvP scenario.

This.

I would just like to thank you both for the extreme amount of amusement you've given me today from reading this.

I can't stop laughing, really.  It's great.  Thanks so much.


~mumbles something incomprehendable~
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on February 03, 2009, 03:58:43 PM
Bumpity Bump Bump.....still looking for the three roles, PM me for details.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: Qzzrbl on February 03, 2009, 10:57:43 PM
Titansfan has Qzzrbl's official seal of approval.

Opportunities like these aren't to be wastes wasted.

;D
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: titansfan on February 06, 2009, 01:16:32 PM
Sorry to say but these roles are now closed due to certain circumstances.
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 06, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
Welcome to Armageddon!
Title: Re: Cousin Role
Post by: WarriorPoet on February 06, 2009, 05:19:31 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on February 06, 2009, 04:12:01 PM
Welcome to Armageddon!

:)

Good stuff.