The best part about this HRPT for me was not was the actual experiences the players got to enjoy today but that finally the story wheels of the game have finally started movng again in a wonderful direction.
What happened in this HRPT to me felt so long over due, for the longest time i've felt that gypsy lands which all their rumored richness should have been taken over by a city state and/or just opened up to the general playerbase. I remember having characters that wondered about that YEARS ago. I think what occured to the lands (which is now common knowledge) was just another perfect solution. Kudos to the staff or staff members that made this happen because it just made so much sense.
What happened today was really just one of the things i really wanted to see happen in the game. It is right up there on my list of things i want to see happen in the game,right beside the removal of all powerful sorcerer kings and making the tablelands becoming explorable march or jungle, forcing elves and tribes inward in the scrub and red desert.
I truely believe this HRPT will open the door to more RP opportunities as well. The last HRPT made the world much richer in my opinion to play in with the removal of halflings and introduction of kryl just to name a few things. I think this HRPT has truely done the same.
Once again Kudos to the staff. I can't wait to see what happens in the world next.
someone's got a thing for gypsy genocide
Quote from: MeTekillot on July 29, 2013, 01:03:42 AM
someone's got a thing for gypsy genocide
The only thing hotter than a gypsy, is a dead gypsy.
Quote from: BuNutzCola on July 29, 2013, 01:23:36 AM
Quote from: MeTekillot on July 29, 2013, 01:03:42 AM
someone's got a thing for gypsy genocide
The only thing hotter than a gypsy, is a dead gypsy.
Hey now, I got in trouble for joking about people dying, you best not joke about the poor gypsies dying lest:
Quote from: Adhira on July 28, 2013, 10:43:32 PM
Don't make me joke you, ShaLeah.
Turns into:
Quote from: Adhira on July 28, 2013, 10:43:32 PM
Don't make me joke you, BuNutzCola.
Don't even test her. She'll do it.
allanak totally won
Quote from: HavokBlue on July 29, 2013, 01:59:23 AM
allanak totally won
Yeah, we totally...
*looks around*
Blue? BLUE?
NOOOOOOO!
Another GDBer disappeared by His Faithful. :D
Without their master's command, the restless Muark will become an even greater threat to this world
Control must be maintained
There must always be
A sorc king
I really wanna know happened from the Tuluki point of view. Like seriously, I'd be shitting bricks if a dragon was coming at my PC.
I really want to talk about it, LOL! It was so fun and exciting that I want to get together with you all and babble.... Why did you guys do THIS? What happened after THEN? Oh oh did you see THAT?
Some of us don't know what happEeEeEeEeEnned btw
*drifts out*
EDIT: Didn't see the "state of the world" post. :0.
Quote from: Royal on July 29, 2013, 02:43:39 AM
I really wanna know happened from the Tuluki point of view.
From the Tuluk pov: We won. duh.
Dragon? What Dragon? You are crazy, that was an over grown, oddly shaped hawk. With an enlarged vocal cord, and a hoarse squak. Dragon, psh, your crazy.
Quote from: Alkendor on July 29, 2013, 05:38:40 AM
From the Tuluk pov: Irrelevant.
Fixed that for you.
I'm fairly sure Tek only lets his soldiers go to war as a bit of entertainment. "Aight, I've had my fun, time to do something about that bloody molehill I've had in my back yard all these years.."
Come on Martha, pack up da fire elementals, where moving.
I"ve booked a flight with Air Tek on the Black dragon at 4:55
Don't forget we have to get there an hour early to check our volcano at the bagage handling.
At least the movers will have the place in bloody order for our arrival.
Hands down their a cut above the rest.
Their work is almost magical.
Got a good deal on it too, from some Gypos, mostly because its in a bad neighborhood. You know the one with all those funny talking tree huggers.
I just wonder how those nakkis define winning....
Twenty nakkis leave with a bomb...one returns, but the bomb killed a Templar.
The nakki reports "WE WON!"
For those trying to figure out who won, don't forget about virtual numbers, and exactly what each side did jut before the neighborhood got a tad warmer.
Awesome HRPT, and I'm very excited about the direction the game is going.
I am also excited about gypsies getting to play gypsies again. I love their history and culture, but Tyn Dashra was just too cozy and isolated.
I like to think Allanak won. Sure, they didn't get what they wanted, but nobody else got it either, cause fuck you, if Allanak ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
On top of that, they managed to get rid of a pesky volcano outside their walls and TEK SARAK.
*disclaimer: Unapologetic Allanaki fanboy, cause Allanak is the best city.
Both sides won, both sides lost, neither side realizes it.
Come on folks, this is Armageddon. Murder, Corruption, Betrayal. If it was straight forward, it wouldn't be Arm.
I too really enjoyed this HRPT. It was not as flamboyant as the last one with the golems and floodings and stuff like that but I found this one to be more RP driven and had a story to it, which I very much more prefer. This means more opportunities for rp to fulfill this new storyline and I'm excited about that.
Quote from: manonfire on July 29, 2013, 08:45:55 AM
I like to think Allanak won. Sure, they didn't get what they wanted, but nobody else got it either, cause fuck you, if Allanak ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.
You can make a case that Tuluk lost, but you really cannot make a case that Allanak lost.
If you read the post there's fertile land sitting right outside Allanak now.
Fertile land or not, there's really no downside to no longer having a volcano sitting on your front porch.
Well, I think you need break it down. Between winning and success. Allanak, surely at least partly successful....but at what cost? Did Tuluk Cost them more for that success then Tuluk lost or was it even...etc etc.
I have to think of WWII, The brits come up with a plan to blow up german dams. They send a crap load of bombers...in the end most the bombers were lost. So, the germans won...but the mission was successful.
(edit) The Muark lost though...but I think like many that is a win for the game and the players...finally they might get to actually be gypsies.
Allanak had a dragon that threw volcanoes at people.
'Nuff said.
There is no winning side just yet.
This is the point of this HRPT. There is a volcano in a new spot and soil near Allanak where there was once none. Could this help in the long run for Allanak and the war to come? More food for its soldiers?
What about the road connecting the cities? How badly is it blocked?
Allanak and Tuluk are at war. The winner is yet to be determined. This is the most exciting part about all of this! I read about the Copper Wars and I wonder of all the cool sub-plots within plots that happen and I now might have a chance to be a part of it!
With my new character :P
I haven't played Arm for a whole day in years. 8)
#hadfun
#winning
#hastagsarefashionable
Quote from: TheWanderer on July 29, 2013, 10:02:48 AM
Allanak had a dragon that threw volcanoes at people.
'Nuff said.
tuluk threw pretty lights at people i think that means victory
let us all sup tea and celebrate our (subtle) victory
nah we rough circle to celebrate
*grunt*
Quote from: MeTekillot on July 29, 2013, 01:03:42 AM
someone's got a thing for gypsy genocide
Dude. I'm asking you to, please, avoid that phrase. It's cringeworthy, seeing as such a genocide has happened within living memory in the Real World.
Thanks.
[/pcderail]
Yes, it was an awesome HRPT. I can't imagine how much time staff spent going over pesky little details before the events unfolded. A large round of applause for Staff, then.
>stand
>ovate
Quote from: Morrolan on July 29, 2013, 12:17:03 PM
Yes, it was an awesome HRPT. I can't imagine how much time staff spent going over pesky little details before the events unfolded. A large round of applause for Staff, then.
>stand
>ovate
Yes.
Quote from: LauraMars on July 29, 2013, 09:20:48 AM
Fertile land or not, there's really no downside to no longer having a volcano sitting on your front porch.
Was that there since the last war? I'm starting to see a pattern here.
No it poofed up after the HRPT.
Quote from: MeTekillot on July 29, 2013, 12:56:48 PM
No it poofed up after the HRPT.
I meant the volcano outside Allanak. The one that disappeared.
It poofed up after the last HRPT where all the shit got fucked up. I think?
The volcano appeared when the black moon did.
Idk when it stopped spewing lava and just chilled, though.
The volcano's movement is a pretty awesome development. I'm wondering if it means 'nak gets food and Tuluk gets easy obsidian/magma, now? What will the volcano do to the local forest? FIRE KRYL?!
Fire kryl!!! Nooooooooooooooooo
The general trend I've seen in the past few years is that Allanak always achieves its objective but loses more PCs doing it than Tuluk does retreating.
:)
#copperwartruthers
Does it affect:
Quote from: Chronology of the Known World744 (Year 51 Age 10)
Tektolnes confronts Luir Dragonsthrall deep in the obsidian mines of Allanak. By use of incredible magicks, Tektolnes buries Luir under ninety-nine cords of rock.
I'm sure it's totally safe...
Quote from: Celest on July 29, 2013, 01:26:54 PM
The volcano's movement is a pretty awesome development. I'm wondering if it means 'nak gets food and Tuluk gets easy obsidian/magma, now? What will the volcano do to the local forest? FIRE KRYL?!
'Nak had easy obsidian before the volcano...but maybe that's because that volcano was always sitting underneath there...now if it's actually gone gone......ALL THE STUFF TO THINK ABOUT OMG.
Quote from: Maso on July 29, 2013, 01:41:02 PM
Quote from: Celest on July 29, 2013, 01:26:54 PM
The volcano's movement is a pretty awesome development. I'm wondering if it means 'nak gets food and Tuluk gets easy obsidian/magma, now? What will the volcano do to the local forest? FIRE KRYL?!
'Nak had easy obsidian before the volcano...but maybe that's because that volcano was always sitting underneath there...now if it's actually gone gone......ALL THE STUFF TO THINK ABOUT OMG.
That's not the way obsidian and vulcanism works.
Quit playing minecraft and read a geology book... Or possibly play dwarf fortress - most of its geology stuff is decently realistic.
I don't play minecraft.
I think I'll look somewhere other than a game with teleporting volcanoes for examples of geological realism.
Quote from: LauraMars on July 29, 2013, 02:05:08 PM
I think I'll look somewhere other than a game with teleporting volcanoes for examples of geological realism.
:-*
Quote from: LauraMars on July 29, 2013, 02:05:08 PM
I think I'll look somewhere other than a game with teleporting volcanoes for examples of geological realism.
*snort* Hipsters. Always think they know what's truelyfe and what's fake.
Let's talk about how awesome the HRPT was and not make vague pot shots at each other.
Yay!
This was an awesome HRPT because we planned this for literally about eight months.
One day.
Eight months of planning.
One day.
Yeah, it was pretty awesome.
Quote from: Eurynomos on July 29, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
This was an awesome HRPT because we planned this for literally about eight months.
One day.
Eight months of planning.
One day.
Yeah, it was pretty awesome.
It was!
I've wanted those baby stealers to get what was coming to them for a long time.
Now, we should make them go back to their lands and live in them!
So I guess if you were playing a gypsy and are still alive your in game PC must be going through some serious shit :D
Quote from: Delirium on July 29, 2013, 01:03:55 PM
The volcano appeared when the black moon did.
I could've sworn the volcano appeared when Borsail got sunk *into a molten pit of lava*, which was during the gith invasion of Allanak, which was prior to the black moon event.
Quote from: janeshephard on July 29, 2013, 02:54:45 PM
So I guess if you were playing a gypsy and are still alive your in game PC must be going through some serious shit :D
Yeah no kidding. I'd probably have to take some Xanax just to log in.
Quote from: Lizzie on July 29, 2013, 02:57:28 PM
Quote from: Delirium on July 29, 2013, 01:03:55 PM
The volcano appeared when the black moon did.
I could've sworn the volcano appeared when Borsail got sunk *into a molten pit of lava*, which was during the gith invasion of Allanak, which was prior to the black moon event.
Nope, but lava did begin spreading further southwest of the town of Menos... for some reason... ... ...
The volcano did indeed frickin' explode out of the ground during the black moon HRPT.
Quote from: Eurynomos on July 29, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
This was an awesome HRPT because we planned this for literally about eight months.
One day.
Eight months of planning.
One day.
Yeah, it was pretty awesome.
Actually, almost 9 months!
Like havin' a baby.
Except even bloodier, evidently.
Quote from: Nyr on July 29, 2013, 04:03:48 PM
Quote from: Eurynomos on July 29, 2013, 02:46:30 PM
This was an awesome HRPT because we planned this for literally about eight months.
One day.
Eight months of planning.
One day.
Yeah, it was pretty awesome.
Actually, almost 9 months!
So, another year's wait for the next one if this is a war?
Quote from: Barsook on July 29, 2013, 05:30:18 PM
So, another year's wait for the next one if this is a war?
Nah. Now it's in our hands.
>steal glory
Quote from: Morrolan on July 29, 2013, 05:37:56 PM
Quote from: Barsook on July 29, 2013, 05:30:18 PM
So, another year's wait for the next one if this is a war?
Nah. Now it's in our hands.
>steal glory
LET'S DO IT!
Quote from: Morrolan on July 29, 2013, 05:37:56 PM
Quote from: Barsook on July 29, 2013, 05:30:18 PM
So, another year's wait for the next one if this is a war?
Nah. Now it's in our hands.
>steal glory
... got it!
If both sides were fighting over the fertile land of Tyn Dashra, and Allanak now has fertile land, and Tuluk has a volcano, I think the winner is clear. ;)
And Tan Muark tribe still alive?
Pretty sure it a Player win because now we get a prolonged war that all have a chance to be apart of in many different fashions.
If you want to break it down:
Pretty light vs, M.F. Dragon of DOOM! = Dragon
Gain of water slide enclosure and positioning v.s rid of Volcano and gain of fertile land = breaking even
Loss of generals vs Loss of Generals = Nak
Loss of soldiers, north vs. loss of soldiers, south= North
Loss of gickers, south vs north = North (north has none)
Loss of gypies vs south= South
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
By my count 3 to the south and 2 to the north
Number of generals who ran away verses Number who stayed to fight.=north
3 to 3
I loved the objective based nature of this, even if it didn't go exactly as staff planned.
I imagine it can only get better! That's an awesome thought, because it was awesome as fuck already!
I agree, Feco.
Quote from: X-D on July 29, 2013, 07:02:12 PM
Number of generals who ran away verses Number who stayed to fight.=north
3 to 3
Nobody won a fight by simply hanging around to die, buddy. :D
I'll just leave it be for now. People are going to figure it out soon enough.
Quote from: BleakOne on July 29, 2013, 08:55:25 PM
Quote from: X-D on July 29, 2013, 07:02:12 PM
Number of generals who ran away verses Number who stayed to fight.=north
3 to 3
Nobody won a fight by simply hanging around to die, buddy. :D
those who fight and run away... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCHrLK82WRc)
Quote from: X-D on July 29, 2013, 07:02:12 PM
Number of generals who ran away verses Number who stayed to fight.=north
3 to 3
North regaining Northern lands and South running away crying like babies = North
3 South, 4 North.
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on July 30, 2013, 04:29:21 AM
Quote from: X-D on July 29, 2013, 07:02:12 PM
Number of generals who ran away verses Number who stayed to fight.=north
3 to 3
North regaining Northern lands and South running away crying like babies = North
3 South, 4 North.
You might be thinking of the wrong HRPT.
All i know is that historically. the retreating army is the loser ....check your logs and see who called the retreat.....just sayin.
On the awesome hrpt topic....kudos to all you staff running npcs for atmosphere ...they were great.
Tactical withdrawal.
Now I wonder was the withdraw called before or after the M.F. Volcano was dropped on the M.F. gypsy lands.
I think calling back your troops as the Big V.D. (volcano of doom) was dropped,is an arguable as a point of withdraw to be winning.
(http://www.physics.unlv.edu/~jeffery/astro/earth/geology/plate/usgs_006_volcano.gif)
(http://www.msnucleus.org/membership/html/jh/earth/volcanoes/images/volcano03.gif)
Awesome HRPT no doubt - and very well planned out - realistic as well!
Finally conflict returns to Zalanthas on a global scale - and everyone will be happy!
Nothing motivates an economy like war :)
Now, let the war games begin!
Quote from: Potaje on July 30, 2013, 05:13:13 AM
Now I wonder was the withdraw called before or after the M.F. Volcano was dropped on the M.F. gypsy lands.
I think calling back your troops as the Big V.D. (volcano of doom) was dropped,is an arguable as a point of withdraw to be winning.
Getting real close to sensitive stuff there.
I was going to post a long post giving a rundown of how both sides can legitimately claim victory, then I decided it's not the place for it. Instead, I will toss a huge Thank You to the staff involved, and once again claim in my shamelessly biased opinion that the South won by way of achieving all objectives set out. :P
Retreat? Bah, tactical withdrawal! :D
Troop loss? Who cares, more where they came from! (although some of the PCs lost on both sides :'( )
Defeat? Sorry, I can't hear you over the volcano the Highlord just dropped on your head! ;D
All joking aside though, I've never had so much fun as during the HRPT. Big thank you to staff.
I don't care what you all say I won. Just me.
Jengal the victor. :)
Fertile lands vs Volcano= might potentially be a BIG tuluki win. But more importantly a huge player win.
Tuluk with a potential obsidian resource? Hmmm.
Still, I think its in the player's hands now. :)
Moderated a post.
If your post is about an IC thing that happened in the HRPT and your post starts out with "from what I recall," it doesn't matter if you're recalling correctly or not--you shouldn't post it! :)
You guys are so cute with your butthurt and blatant city biases.
Said it elsewhere, will say it again, this was a treat to experience and thanks for all the hard work, staff & players. :)
Quote from: Dresan on July 30, 2013, 09:58:23 AM
Fertile lands vs Volcano= might potentially be a BIG tuluki win. But more importantly a huge player win.
Tuluk with a potential obsidian resource? Hmmm.
Still, I think its in the player's hands now. :)
Yeah, that what i was thinking too.
I really had fun and enjoyed the HRPT. Even though my eyes got screen burn from watching my computer for several hours straight and the scrolling was really bad at times I enjoyed it and I think I grew through the experience.
Quote from: Nyr on July 30, 2013, 10:02:59 AM
Moderated a post.
If your post is about an IC thing that happened in the HRPT and your post starts out with "from what I recall," it doesn't matter if you're recalling correctly or not--you shouldn't post it! :)
em ducks and covers
Sorry... Seems to be a very fine line between what can be posted and can't be posted. I've seen other posts here talking about stuff that must have been seen IC and got confused and kind of caught up in the whole thing. I'll remember not to do this in the future.
/me pets slvrmoontiger on the head, reassuringly.
;)
Quote from: Harmless on July 30, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
/me pets slvrmoontiger on the head, reassuringly.
;)
em purrs as he is pet by harmless.
Quote from: Delirium on July 30, 2013, 10:06:58 AM
You guys are so cute with your butthurt and blatant city biases.
Said it elsewhere, will say it again, this was a treat to experience and thanks for all the hard work, staff & players. :)
Seriously.
The staff announcements post says in the most clear manner possible "war has begun". You'd think people ITT never heard the phrase "won the battle, but lost the war" (or the other way around).
This is what lots of players wanted! An open war between the main cities and the ability to actually affect world-wide plots. There were threads popping up for the past year or two talking about this desire from the playerbase, and they got it.
Can't we just bet that instead of one city winning or the other, that all the players will have a good time?
(http://i.imgur.com/ZFwJDga.png)
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on July 30, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
Quote from: Harmless on July 30, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
/me pets slvrmoontiger on the head, reassuringly.
;)
em purrs as he is pet by harmless.
you stop that right now
There's speculation and stuff and honestly we're being more lenient than we usually are because people are excited. I am excited, too. It's nice to be acting (and still acting) on the things put in motion 9 months ago.
Quote from: manonfire on July 30, 2013, 10:48:34 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on July 30, 2013, 10:42:11 AM
Quote from: Harmless on July 30, 2013, 10:27:57 AM
/me pets slvrmoontiger on the head, reassuringly.
;)
em purrs as he is pet by harmless.
you stop that right now
Hey tigers are cats after all. Its what they do.
*wags meh butt like a tail happily*
Quote from: Cutthroat on July 30, 2013, 10:48:18 AM
Quote from: Delirium on July 30, 2013, 10:06:58 AM
You guys are so cute with your butthurt and blatant city biases.
Said it elsewhere, will say it again, this was a treat to experience and thanks for all the hard work, staff & players. :)
Seriously.
The staff announcements post says in the most clear manner possible "war has begun". You'd think people ITT never heard the phrase "won the battle, but lost the war" (or the other way around).
This is what lots of players wanted! An open war between the main cities and the ability to actually affect world-wide plots. There were threads popping up for the past year or two talking about this desire from the playerbase, and they got it.
Can't we just bet that instead of one city winning or the other, that all the players will have a good time?
(http://i.imgur.com/ZFwJDga.png)
"And once we're in enemy territory, as a bushwhackin' guerrilla army, we're gonna be doin' one thing and one thing only... killin' Northies."
I've said that Allanak needed some motherflipping hardcoded resources for a while now
I've yet to explore the new area but holy shit this is what I've said the place needs for months
As feedback I'd really like to see the stack of doom battles go away in the future.
Players should be scattered across multiple rooms fighting NPCs or assisting other NPCs; the players eventually meet face to face and fight each other.
I know it's harder to do than describe but I really dislike the stack of doom system I experienced in this HRPT. Anything would be an improvement.
We know big battles aren't ideal. We have first hand experience. If we can come up with a better method we will, thanks.
And for now let's stop all speculation over the IC details. It's been fun guys, but let's keep it IC.
The truth is that the 'real story' might never be known by most of you. There's always going to be different stories.
- What Allanak says
- What Tuluk says
- What Amos says
and so on. Then there's what staff know, and usually what you all think is mostly wrong ;)
The real result of the HRPT - the world has changed. It just got hot in here. And what opportunities are there going to be now??
Keep on playing folks. We've said it before, but I'll say it again. This is just the beginning. You're about to be part of the Armageddon Golden Age (where golden stands for blood and murder, corruption and betrayal).
emo shivers in delighted terror
Think it's pretty clear that Red Storm wins this battle.
Nah, it is everybody in a certain hidden place giggling and going "Shhh...they will not notice us, destroy each other and we will control the world!".
Space vestrics = Zalanthan Illuminati
Honestly from all the posts I've seen it would seem like this win went to the Staff. They pulled off a really good HRPT that will lead to several really nice RP opportunities.
I was just being cheeky when I was talking about winning.
This was really neat and I'm glad it happened.
Quote from: HavokBlue on July 30, 2013, 06:45:26 PM
I was just being cheeky when I was talking about winning.
I think we all were. We all had a blast. :)
I don't condone being cheeky in any circumstance.
I had a blast.... And then the server crashed. I thought I had been gobbled up by the lag monster.
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on July 30, 2013, 06:58:58 PM
I had a blast.... And then the server crashed. I thought I had been gobbled up by the lag monster.
Yeah, I was like DCed three other times.