Grebbers and nobles

[Miradus]

I honestly don't care how many nobles there are, I do dislike how often I saw them in game when playing a dirt poor man doing odd jobs to pay for his drinking water who can't even afford shoes. I really dislike seeing them walking around in the open streets with a single bodyguard. These streets are supposed to be full of thousands of smelly commoners, pickpockets, and probably mutants as well, and I really can't imagine somebody in silks strolling through those crowds.

I would LOVE seeing them walking the open streets at night with a single bodyguard if it were not for magical, teleporting half-giant soldiers with insta-subdue.

In many ways the game code is really good at delivering immediate consequences, but where nobility and sponsored roles are concerned it seems like they go way out of their way to protect those guys from their own actions.

[lostinspace]

I would LOVE seeing them walking the open streets at night with a single bodyguard if it were not for magical, teleporting half-giant soldiers with insta-subdue.

In many ways the game code is really good at delivering immediate consequences, but where nobility and sponsored roles are concerned it seems like they go way out of their way to protect those guys from their own actions.

Those soldiers aren't really noble specific, but I know what you mean. I just can't imagine a noble traveling unmolested with a single body guard. You think that fucker dying of dehydration gives a flying fuck who you are? They just know that ring is a year worth of water at the pawn shop, and that shop doesn't ask questions. If nobles want to leave their quarters, they should really be getting an escort, either from the Arm, in house soldiers/slaves, or hired help, instead of flitting around nearly alone in crowds of thousands at all hours.

[BadSkeelz]

Remove crim code, give PC bodyguards more livelihood.

[Yam]

Maybe not remove crim code, definitely decrease the number of soldiers in Allanak. There are probably more NPC half-giant soldiers roaming around than there are merchant NPCs in the bar. Shit's cray.

[Miradus]

Absolutely. Tons of content just waiting to be had.

What I particularly dislike is when I see some flowery pogue in the Gaj getting lippy with the one-eyed, scar-faced desert badass. The room echoes are throwing out stuff like people getting their teeth punched out in the corner or knives being pulled. But yet this badass has to sit there and take that pogue's lip because there are teleporting half-giants waiting just outside. And both of them know it, and the pogue is never, ever going to leave the safety of the city walls or stick his head out into the street at night.

[Yam]

I've played people who beat up/murdered people who pissed them off by getting lippy. It usually takes more production than it ought to though.

Let's found a new city in the Salt Flats without crimcode. We can call it Thunderdome. I'm not joking.

[Miradus]

Be the change, Yam.

Create a "salter's camp" out there around a new water source and become the salty overlord of the flats. We can call you "King Crusty".

[Malken]

Be the change, Yam.

Create a "salter's camp" out there around a new water source and become the salty overlord of the flats. We can call you "King Crusty".

King Crusty the Flaked.

[Patuk]

I honestly don't care how many nobles there are, I do dislike how often I saw them in game when playing a dirt poor man doing odd jobs to pay for his drinking water who can't even afford shoes. I really dislike seeing them walking around in the open streets with a single bodyguard. These streets are supposed to be full of thousands of smelly commoners, pickpockets, and probably mutants as well, and I really can't imagine somebody in silks strolling through those crowds.

I would LOVE seeing them walking the open streets at night with a single bodyguard if it were not for magical, teleporting half-giant soldiers with insta-subdue.

In many ways the game code is really good at delivering immediate consequences, but where nobility and sponsored roles are concerned it seems like they go way out of their way to protect those guys from their own actions.

I mean, that nobles and such get crimcode protection is one thing, but when everyone just has a cadre of freaking soldiers to ensure their safety around.. Meh.

[Jihelu]

There was a recent* ic event that should have made people less willing to walk the streets at night.
People still fucking do it.

I'm not saying you have to kill every noble in the game to make your point that they shouldn't travel at night but...it helps.


* A while ago.

[Raptor_Dan]

I've played people who beat up/murdered people who pissed them off by getting lippy. It usually takes more production than it ought to though.

Let's found a new city in the Salt Flats without crimcode. We can call it Thunderdome. I'm not joking.

Since Elkrosians were removed, we should probably call it the Firedome or Stonedome, maybe. But I'm all for this. Once this char dies, I'll PM you so we can coordinate family roles. You'll be the wide-eyed dreamer, and I'll play your wife who eventually sells you out to the Templarate for a small bag of coins and a pat on the head.

[Clavis]

always should be more grebbers then nobles. nobles are few, compared to the masses it takes to keep them pampered, fed, and watered. Grebbers and potential grebbers are being popped out by thousands of people.

Think there should be more brawl rooms to, so those that like to lip off will suddenly realize yeah probably shouldn't be doing this to someone that looks like mr. one-eyed scarred menace there.
harsh, brutal - not so much in the cities, more like, ninety percent of populace are well protected cause of uber soldiers patroling, and waiting to insta-subdue, kill you with all thier buddies. yet vnpc pop, smashing chairs, pulling out knives, smashing teeth out, no problem. mean byn'er pulling a knife and sticking it in mr/mrs fops lippy stomach, arena or crimson smear on all the guards weapons.

[Raptor_Dan]

I think all streets in 'Nak should have crimcode adjusted so that as long as you're not using a weapon, or magick, you can wail on anyone, except nobles, templars, and soldiers, of course.


You start beating the shit out any punk you want to, and assure the soldiers rushing up to you that 'no, no, it's cool. Just a breed and I didn't kill it, so you don't have to clean anything up!'