Actual conversation with someone who doesn't play Arm... PART TWO.

[Asmoth]

(She's behind me, watching me type.)

Her: Why isn't everyone sitting at the bar, why is that one guy sitting on the ledge?
Me: He's training listen.

Her: How come that guy from earlier is still sanding outside the bar and hasn't moved?
Me: He's got higher listen than the other guy, so he's standing outside to train his and eavesdrop on the bar.

Her: Why do you have to type Listen every once in a while, can you not hear if you don't type it?
Me: No apparently it's supposed to be when I'm paying attention really hard to things around me.
Her: That seems redundant.
Me: It is, but it's always been that way.

Her: Why is that guy typing all his words like he's drunk.
Me: Some people like to roleplay that they sound like a semi-retarded pirate.
Her: Really?
Me: Not really, but they think adding in apostrophes where they don't belong and leaving letters off words makes them more interesting.

Her: Why do you look in all the directions all the time.
Me: Armageddon OCD, you should see me when I'm outside the city, it's a look direction spamfest.
Her: Why, what does that get you?
Me: Potentially stops me from getting killed by wild animals or other players.
Her: Potentially?
Me: Yeah, because normally if they wanna kill me they do anyways.

Her: How come everyone leaves at Dawn?
Me: Some of them have things to do during the day, and the gates open at dawn and close at dusk.
Her: So if you're stuck outside after dark, do you die?
Me: Not always, but it increases the danger.
Her: So everyone lives in the city?
Me: No, there are some people who hardly ever step foot in the city.
Her: Why?
Me: They are desert elves.
(She just goes OH and nods like she understands any of it, and yes I'm just fucking with her here.)

[Armaddict]

...you have a pretty dismal opinion of other players.

[hopeandsorrow]

(She's behind me, watching me type.)

Her: Why isn't everyone sitting at the bar, why is that one guy sitting on the ledge?
Me: He's training listen.

Her: How come that guy from earlier is still sanding outside the bar and hasn't moved?
Me: He's got higher listen than the other guy, so he's standing outside to train his and eavesdrop on the bar.

I f'ing loled.

[Asmoth]

...you have a pretty dismal opinion of other players.

I can't be the only one that lovingly refers to that as "The Listening Ledge" can I?

[Asanadas]

Everything is 100% true. I have in fact whispered to my buddies at the Gaj when I saw there's a sharp sitting on the listening ledge. 

[Harmless]

wow, no. the ledge is where people who hate people at the bar sit to wait for other like-minded haters to join them. The ones who are ONLY in the gaj to train listen usually stand while hidden in or near that area, duh. Moreover there's a whole shitload of ways to easily train listen..
..

...you have a pretty dismal opinion of other players.

I'll just +1 this

[Armaddict]

I'm a little appalled at the phrase 'train listen'.

[Refugee]

I feel so naive.  I thought the ledge was for undesirables who would be bullied by people at the bar.

[Armaddict]

I feel so naive.  I thought the ledge was for undesirables who would be bullied by people at the bar.

Woowoo, you get kudos for playing a roleplaying game with roleplaying mentality instead of a metagaming one.

[tinsix]

I'm a little appalled at the phrase 'train listen'.

I know. There are no trains on zalanthas! Besides, everyone knows how much noise they make, it's pretty easy to hear them without even trying to listen.

[KankWhisperer]

[manipura]

I feel so naive.  I thought the ledge was for undesirables who would be bullied by people at the bar.

Silly!  The seats away from everyone else are for the metagamers, obviously.  But it's okay if those seats are taken, because the room adjacent to a busy room is just as good for the same sort of RP skill training.

[Asmoth]

I was mostly poking fun and trolling her for asking me incessant questions like a child.

But if you think that what I've described doesn't happen.  You are a bit gullible.

Yes I'm aware there are other reasons to sit at a different table guys...

[RogueGunslinger]

That ledge is awesome. Easily the best part of the whole bar. Kudos to anyone who has mudsexed on it.

[Harmless]

you should be grateful someone wants to talk to you about your game at all.

[Zerero]

 Ledge for le Edge

[manipura]

you should be grateful someone wants to talk to you about your game at all.

Yep.
I remember about fifteen years ago being the one asking incessant questions about this unknown game.  Instead of being trolled and being told "That guy is metagamey and this girl is more metagamey, but her skills are better, and this stupid one here, they think their stupid speech is some real good RP for their character" I was told stories about characters and events and tales about far off places in the world.

[Asmoth]

Just for the record, we are talking about a woman who is a pecker typer, about two words a minute because she doesn't know the layout of a qwerty keyboard.

Same woman who had to write an email to someone and wrote it, then asked me to type it for her, due to her knowing she can't type for shit.

Same woman who told me she doesn't like to read because the movies are always better. (Hence why she's always my date to the movies).

The odds of her becoming a player on this or any other text based game are about as good as me winning the Powerball.

[Fujikoma]

Just for the record, we are talking about a woman who is a pecker typer, about two words a minute because she doesn't know the layout of a qwerty keyboard.

Same woman who had to write an email to someone and wrote it, then asked me to type it for her, due to her knowing she can't type for shit.

Same woman who told me she doesn't like to read because the movies are always better. (Hence why she's always my date to the movies).

The odds of her becoming a player on this or any other text based game are about as good as me winning the Powerball.

I was a hunt and pecker before I took up mudding. Now I'm just a pecker. It would seem we have something in common.

[RogueGunslinger]

I'm a real big pecker. I like to think I've gotten better though.

[hyzhenhok]

Why would the ledge be where you train listen? All those people sitting at the bar aren't talking anyway. Better to just sit at the bar with them and idle yourself, and it shouldn't take long to get a fail.

The ledge is also the "filthy gemmers are at the bar, and I'm by myself, so where else am I going to sit?"

[boog]

I'm a real big pecker. I like to think I've gotten better though.

I read this wrong.

And I giggled at the conversation.

I talked to a guy that actually ran a MUD with a high user population in the 90s. He asked me if I was playing on DIKU or some of the other engines. I admitted to him I was playing on DIKU. He laughed and said, "That's old." I said, "Yeah. ABOUT AS OLD AS I AM."

Then he told me he made his programming students make a dungeon, MUD style, in the layout of their school. Legit.

ANYWAY - I thought this was hilarious. You don't have to take it as Asmoth being serious. I mean. C'mon.

[Harmless]

Bah, fine, Boog, you win.   

[RogueGunslinger]

I'm a real big pecker. I like to think I've gotten better though.

I read this wrong.

You definitely read it right.

[Riev]

It is totally the Listening Ledge.

Sometimes I like to sit there and just glare at people sitting at the bar and think "Must be nice to get bottle service from the bar".

[Quirrilicious]

I feel so naive.  I thought the ledge was for undesirables who would be bullied by people at the bar.

10 years in and I never knew until now that it was referred to as "the listening ledge." I always thought as above or that it's just another place to sit and be antisocial or whatever.

Edit to correct the time. 10? Really? It's been that long? 

[Pale Horse]

I feel so naive.  I thought the ledge was for undesirables who would be bullied by people at the bar.

10 years in and I never knew until now that it was referred to as "the listening ledge." I always thought as above or that it's just another place to sit and be antisocial or whatever.

Edit to correct the time. 10? Really? It's been that long? 

It sneaks up on you, doesn't it?

[Asmoth]

Her:  Why is that guy wearing his hood up, and a facewrap?
Me: I don't know why, it's redundant.
Her: Does wearing it give you a farther distance to see or something?
Me: It should, but it doesn't, it's just fluff.
Her: Fluff?  Stuff that's there for purely roleplaying means.  Not equipment with an actual use like a sword or a piece of armor.  Unless you count hiding your short description as a use.

Her: Why does it say in an unfamiliar tongue?
Me: Because there is a few different languages in the game and mine only speaks the "first world" one of the game.  Sirihish.
Her: So those guys are from someplace else?
Me: Either that, elves, what we refer to as dirty neckers, or gypsies, what the game refers to as nomads.  There are a few languages that higher sophistication players speak like Tatlum, which is the Highlord language or some shit.  I dunno, I've never learned it.
Her: Can you learn those languages?
Me: Depending on your wisdom stat and how long you sit listening to it, yes, but it takes a damn long time.
Her: So from the Listening Ledge? (She actually remembered that conversation lol)
Me: No, they can just be talking any which way, if they are at your seat or you hear them from the listening ledge, it all has a chance to tick your knowledge up on the language.

Her: Why is that's guys equipment list so long?
Me: Well aside from the armor and containers, the rest is silly shit like bandanas on his ankles.  Some people like to use literally EVERY wear location their player has.
Her: Why?
Me: Got me, I look at the game as more function over fashion, but there are different people who play the game.

Her: Why do you keep suffering from the Way?
Me: I have my psionic barrier up.  It's supposed to make it harder for folks to contact me and stop a mysteriously powerful class of player in the game from fucking with my mind.
Her: So it hurts you?
Me: More of mental exhaustion from keeping the effort of keeping it up.
Her: That's what she said.
Me: You're an idiot.
Her: So why do you have it up if you say supposedly, that makes me think it doesn't work well.
Me: Well, a few years back, they made a code change that made contact, the ability to contact other people's minds, jacked up to master, because too many people were passing out and dying etc because of training the ability.  And it's pretty integral for communication over distance.

So back then, if you trained up barrier good, most people didn't have great contact, so it kept people the fuck outta your head, now everyone is a master and smashes it in one or two tries no matter how good you get it.  So now the only reason I do it is to escape off WHO C which allows higher ranking people in my clan to see I'm online.
Her: Why?
Me: Because I'm a bad employee and they might want me to do something silly or arduous versus me doing my own thing.  So I'm hiding.

Her: So how do they choose who's the boss of these places?
Me: Either staff puts out a notice and everyone tosses in ideas, which they pick and choose or disregard depending on a bunch of factors.  Or you just happen to survive for 2-4 months and they eventually promote you, because most people die fast.
Her: How long has your guy been alive?
Me: Almost four days.
Her: Do your guys normally live a long time.
Me: Nope.
Her: Why not?
Me: I either get bored and go do something stupid or I piss of someone and they murder me.
Her: Oh.  How long is your longest lived?
Me: I think fifteen days played or so.  He was a merchant so he did nothing but build shit for other people, not a dangerous life.

To be continued as she no doubt will ask me a million questions after that.

[RogueGunslinger]

I feel like this turned from real conversations to veiled complaints disguised as real conversations.

[MeTekillot]

Asmoth is a compulsive liar, narcissist, and possible sociopath, for the uninformed.

[Khorne8]

I feel like this friend of yours should just be creating an account and playing.  They sound like they really want to, but don't know how to just come out and ask.

[Riev]

For a lot of people, the idea and story behind the game is much more interesting and intriguing when they aren't behind the keyboard.

I find reading books very relaxing and calming but I don't want to write one.

[Asmoth]

For a lot of people, the idea and story behind the game is much more interesting and intriguing when they aren't behind the keyboard.

I find reading books very relaxing and calming but I don't want to write one.

True, the only thing I can get her to play is WII Super Smash Bros.

And she's surprisingly not bad, but I've tried to get her to play Xbox One, PS4 and computer games to no avail.

But like I said earlier, she's a horrible typist so she isn't interested in mudding herself.

God knows she's heard me sitting here like... "God damn this guy is slow..." "I'm guessing he's afk?" etc.

But she did tell me she was looking at the forums the other day while she was at work, so who knows, maybe she'll try it one day.

[Fujikoma]

Sounds to ME like she's interested... not only that, but paying careful attention. That many questions, about small details? Definite warning sign she's going to roll up an assassin and hurl a knife at your head from the listening ledge.

[Kronibas]

you should be grateful someone wants to talk to you about your game at all.

Hey man, someone tried talking to me about Arm yesterday after he came over.

First he was asking me if I was having sex with aliens.

then he was asking me if I was having sex with trolls.

and i was like, nah bro... they might be minors anyway.

[Saellyn]

you should be grateful someone wants to talk to you about your game at all.

Hey man, someone tried talking to me about Arm yesterday after he came over.

First he was asking me if I was having sex with aliens.

then he was asking me if I was having sex with trolls.

and i was like, nah bro... they might be minors anyway.

Oh, we're bringing up that dead kank again.


I had a conversation with some dudes at AIT about Arm and they thought I was coding something because of how fast I was typing and all the screen scroll. I had to explain it was a game. I might have gotten one or two people into it, too.

[Iiyola]

you should be grateful someone wants to talk to you about your game at all.

[Majikal]

My RP buddies who I tabletop with regularly ask me to tell them another cool story from the world of Armageddon, my wife has had to listen to plenty.

It's to the point that I think my friends and wife, none of which play armageddon could probably give 9 out of 10 of you a run for your sid on world lore and game knowledge. My wife will regularly pitch in ideas on my characters or suggest something about their mentality I haven't really dove into yet. In the early years though some of the stuff she'd say over my shoulder would crack me up.

Wife looking over shoulder.
Her: OMG, that guy's a dick. You should kill him.
Me: He's a Templar babe, they're pretty much the strongest political figure in the game.
Her: But he's a dick.
Me: They're all dicks, that's what makes them awesome.
Her: So you're ignoring me so this dude can pick on you?
Me: lawl, yeah. Pretty much.
Her: Stop being a bitch and kill him so we can watch this movie.

[Malifaxis]

That ledge is awesome. Easily the best part of the whole bar. Kudos to anyone who has mudsexed on it.

Do I still get kudos if I was playing a hunchbacked dwarf and hired the prostitute to service me on the ledge?  Because, yeah, I kinda did that.

[RogueGunslinger]

That 100% counts. Kudos to you. 

[ChibiTama]

Her: Why is that guy typing all his words like he's drunk.
Me: Some people like to roleplay that they sound like a semi-retarded pirate.

I lost it here. LOL