Look Echo for Hemote 2016

[nauta]

My suggested solution with hemote look: "watch" your mark.

Not to mention most guild/subguild combos with hide/sneak have scan as well, so they should be picking up on the hemote, for the training worry (see TheWanderer's post) and the busted-bad-guy worry (see the Topless Thread).

Scan does not equal picking up on hemotes. That's the "watch" skill.

Oh, I always thought scan increased your chances of picking up hemotes in the vicinity.  I just read the HELP file, and I guess I just made that up out of full cloth.  Ooops.

ETA: Although I swear it's true.  It's why I've always gone for guild/subguilds with high scan, since I prefer threesomes+, and watch really limits you there.

[Desertman]

My suggested solution with hemote look: "watch" your mark.

Not to mention most guild/subguild combos with hide/sneak have scan as well, so they should be picking up on the hemote, for the training worry (see TheWanderer's post) and the busted-bad-guy worry (see the Topless Thread).

Scan does not equal picking up on hemotes. That's the "watch" skill.

I have never once used the watch skill on a single PC to my knowledge.

I have however caught many hemotes while only scanning....

[TheWanderer]

to be fair, I feel like I catch every hemote without doing anything

[Desertman]

to be fair, I feel like I catch every hemote without doing anything

Good point. Hmm.

[Case]

It's really easy to see hemotes.

[LauraMars]

But isn't it pretty easy to just get your client to gag the look messages?

Sort of, but I'd rather not gag them all - some of them have emotes attached. 

If it's too hard for look to be made into a hemote I'd really rather just have it removed altogether and treated like the look command for every other thing in the game (items, directions etc), invisible unless an emote is attached.

anyway it seems consensus is overwhelming which...I don't know that I've ever seen before on the gdb.

[BadSkeelz]

Do hemotes have a greater chance of being noticed by someone if they are targeted in the hemote?

If you

>hemote sneaks a sidelong look at ~amos

Does Amos stand a greater-than-normal chance of noticing your hemote even if he is not watching you? I think maybe he should.


To bring it in line with the "Look Echo for Hemote" discussion... do you think people should notice when they are looked at with a hypothetical hemote look?

[Asanadas]

Do hemotes have a greater chance of being noticed by someone if they are targeted in the hemote?

If you

>hemote sneaks a sidelong look at ~amos

Does Amos stand a greater-than-normal chance of noticing your hemote even if he is not watching you? I think maybe he should.

Not unless he's watching you! If he's watching you, there are really good chances he'll see it. Otherwise, I think the odds are about 40% seeing it from personal experience.
I'd like a targettable hemote (temote) that the target always sees, and the room has a minor chance of seeing. That sort of thing happens all the time in real life. But with the Way, that sort of nonverbal communication is replaced with mind-speaking.  

[nauta]

Do hemotes have a greater chance of being noticed by someone if they are targeted in the hemote?

If you

>hemote sneaks a sidelong look at ~amos

Does Amos stand a greater-than-normal chance of noticing your hemote even if he is not watching you? I think maybe he should.

To bring it in line with the "Look Echo for Hemote" discussion... do you think people should notice when they are looked at with a hypothetical hemote look?

To the first question: I so wish!  I've had that thought multiple times when playing footsy under the table with someone who wasn't watching me.  OOCly, I'd be like: You are missing all these fabulous fucking hemotes!  The glory!

To the second question: I'm not sure.

[BadSkeelz]

I'd like a targettable hemote (temote) that the target always sees, and the room has a minor chance of seeing. That sort of thing happens all the time in real life. But with the Way, that sort of nonverbal communication is replaced with mind-speaking. 

To the first question: I so wish!  I've had that thought multiple times when playing footsy under the table with someone who wasn't watching me.  OOCly, I'd be like: You are missing all these fabulous fucking hemotes!  The glory!

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contact tressy.bewbs

psi LOOK AT MY FUCKING FEET

cease


Compromise!

[Chettaman]

then their clueless ass is going to look at you while emoting at your feet. It's only slightly jarring to have to way someone, "Watch me."
because then it doesn't make sense to touch them with your feet and then do nothing.

or when your sarge turns around and you wanna stick your tongue out at him and you want everyone else to notice except him.

"hemote< target" as hide this emote to just target
"hemote> target" as hide this emote to everyone except target
"hemote" hide this emote.

Is a grand idea.
You know what? I'm gonna write the code and submit the fucker. Maybe tomorrow.

ETA: Although I swear it's true.  It's why I've always gone for guild/subguilds with high scan, since I prefer threesomes+, and watch really limits you there.

I also wanted to say you're one of my other favorite people ever. I need to make a list. Probably tomorrow...

and after proof reading everything I posted, what the hell thread am I in...? Sorry guys. xD
Look should definitely be a hemote. I agree. You can just emote looking at someone if that's what you want to do. I imagine abuse of the code where no one ever looks at each other even if they just stole from you or whatever, but you know. Eh.

[RogueGunslinger]

I am in support of this idea. It is a good idea.


Bump.

[LauraMars]

Slightly off topic, but it's my birthday today

I'm not hinting for the implementation of this to be my birthday present or anything

I AM BLATANTLY ASKING

[Delirium]

[Asmoth]

Fuck yes... I hate when I walk into the Gaj.

Dude A looks at you (2 seconds after the room descriptions pops)
Tressy A looks at you (1 second after that)
Dude B looks at you (same time as tressy)

etc etc

[nauta]

I'm adding a rider!

crafting echoes for hemote 2525.

forage echoes for hemote 2525.

[Asmoth]

I'm adding a rider!

crafting echoes for hemote 2525.

forage echoes for hemote 2525.

Crafting is meh, because normally they take so damn long it doesn't really spam.

Forage however, yes, if you go out salting or rock grebbing with two other people.  Prepare to miss a lot in so and so searches intently for something!

[BadSkeelz]

I'm adding a rider!

crafting echoes for hemote 2525.

forage echoes for hemote 2525.

I think making crafting echoes hemotes will just encourage people to spamcraft more.

Foraging echoes... eh. We all spam it, but it's kind of nice to know someone is looking and not just suddenly producing pumpkins out of the ground.

[Thunkkin]

My reaction to removing the look echo or making it an hemote:

[Kojul]

This is one of the things as a new player that bugs me a lot. I mean, how many times do you look at someone in real life and they never notice, or how many times has a friend told you that someone is looking at you without you noticing first. If they aren't watching me, HOW DO THEY KNOW WHERE MY EYES ARE WHILE THEY'RE FIGHTING SOMEONE?

+1 look echoes for hemote 2016.

[Maylin]

Yes Please please. Hemote it!!

[Asmoth]

Wow, look at that poll, it's a clear winner that everyone hates look emotes.

Hopefully some day soon we will see some release notes from Nessalin saying he made it happen.

[solera]

April 1 often offered real goodies. I' m hoping hard.

[Thunkkin]

April 1 often offered real goodies. I' m hoping hard.

A fantastic April 1 prank would be to give "skills", "stat", and "weather" a room echo.

The figure in a black sandcloth cloak just confirmed that, yes, he didn't mysteriously branch anything while idling for the last ten minutes.

[whitt]

A fantastic April 1 prank would be to give "skills", "stat", and "weather" a room echo.

Also "time", "eq", "inv", "look self"