Life in the rinth

[Incognito]

The OP's question in RL terms would be - why do people around the world live in slums, when they are free to stay in the cities...

That's like Marie Antoinette's famous quote - (If they cannot afford bread) Let them eat cake.

Modified to add:
She was put to the guillotine for her complete and utter failure to understand poverty among the masses during a famine.

[Inks]

Yes but I was saying don't mess about if you are living in other race majority areas.

[Eurynomos]

We have been (slowly but surely) revamping bits of the Labyrinth, and you will notice there is mention of many tenements within the Labyrinth. These cramped living quarters house the virtual population of the Labyrinth, the people trying to live day-to-day, spice-hit to spice-hit, and moldy bread-crumbs to rat-kebabs.

As was touched on, the reason most of the Labyrinth's population has relocated is due to forced exile -- People getting in too deep with gambling problems, spice addictions, and the wrong side of the tracks with the Militia. Other groups simply have no other place to operate, like elven families and spice addicts in particular. Others have family members who 'went up there once in a while to whore and smoke spice' and never came back, or are living in a tenement and being tended to by family (or not, it's Zalanthas after all).

Basically, i'm unsure if people WANT to live there, but they HAVE to live there, because they have little other choice. People born there are shunned for life, and are both afraid and abhor the Southside of Allanak. People who are in 'exile' there will likely never set foot past Hathor's Way.

[Asche]

The last (and only) Rinthi I played was a pickpocket who spend most of her time southside. Why? Because the Rinth was dead. It was fun to explore for a short time, I had fun scaling the buildings. But my one interaction with another PC in the entirety of my playthrough? "You see Blank PC trying to sneak up behind you!" It was fucking asinine. I went to GREAT pains to make sure I did at least one hemote with every NPC I stole from, much less PC, if only for the benefit of bored staffers who might be watching me. Use the Rinth to twink your backstab, fine. But at least roleplay it. Maybe I missed your hemotes, but seriously? While attempting to kill my character, you can't give me the benefit of a reason, rhyme or an emote? You can't roleplay failing your backstab, maybe look surprised as I notice you? I don't understand these people. I gave him a few short emotes, gave him a surprised say, then ran away because it was clear thats all they were giving me.

I get it. My first assassin was killed because I stopped to wait for them to emote, rather than throw my bola, and I was met with spam flee, shortly followed with my execution. But if you can't trust me to give in this relationship, why the fuck are you even playing? Roleplaying a fucking -assassin-, playing for the thrill of the kill, and then leaving it all to code has to be the single most inane endeavor one could partake in. An assassin who doesn't bother to roleplay with me is wasting my time. I'm not saying its unfair in-game. I'm saying its rude, and boring, and you should genuinely feel bad if you do it. And thats what the rinth is, from my experience. A twink playground where no one is willing to give an inch of roleplay out of fear their advanced backstab breed might experience a bit of difficulty in their cushy lives.

Edit: Sorry. Dunno what I was thinking. Advanced backstab DWARF. That was it.

[TheWanderer]

Edit: Sorry. Dunno what I was thinking. Advanced backstab DWARF. That was it.

u guysez gota chills. i am da owner of da rinth, an i backstab whoever i want. got it?

[RogueGunslinger]

The last (and only) Rinthi I played was a pickpocket who spend most of her time southside. Why? Because the Rinth was dead. It was fun to explore for a short time, I had fun scaling the buildings. But my one interaction with another PC in the entirety of my playthrough? "You see Blank PC trying to sneak up behind you!" It was fucking asinine. I went to GREAT pains to make sure I did at least one hemote with every NPC I stole from, much less PC, if only for the benefit of bored staffers who might be watching me. Use the Rinth to twink your backstab, fine. But at least roleplay it. Maybe I missed your hemotes, but seriously? While attempting to kill my character, you can't give me the benefit of a reason, rhyme or an emote? You can't roleplay failing your backstab, maybe look surprised as I notice you? I don't understand these people. I gave him a few short emotes, gave him a surprised say, then ran away because it was clear thats all they were giving me.

I get it. My first assassin was killed because I stopped to wait for them to emote, rather than throw my bola, and I was met with spam flee, shortly followed with my execution. But if you can't trust me to give in this relationship, why the fuck are you even playing? Roleplaying a fucking -assassin-, playing for the thrill of the kill, and then leaving it all to code has to be the single most inane endeavor one could partake in. An assassin who doesn't bother to roleplay with me is wasting my time. I'm not saying its unfair in-game. I'm saying its rude, and boring, and you should genuinely feel bad if you do it. And thats what the rinth is, from my experience. A twink playground where no one is willing to give an inch of roleplay out of fear their advanced backstab breed might experience a bit of difficulty in their cushy lives.

Edit: Sorry. Dunno what I was thinking. Advanced backstab DWARF. That was it.

No offense but you have exactly no idea how much thinking, hemoting, and emoting before they got to you, actually happened. You got one side of it. Emoting does not equal roleplaying. I agree it sucks to not get any interesting interaction beyond death or narrow escape, but when someone is trying to -kill- you quietly from the dark, emoting that you're about to do so is stupid, and trying to emote after you've already failed is a good way to get bashed and die. It also leaves time to be looked at and ousted to the Templarate. Add to the fact they're probably scare, excited and hopped up on adrenaline from the attempt... yeah what you're expecting to happen won't. 

As much as you want people to care more about an interesting scene than the death of their 20 days played character of which they're probably extremely attached to, that will never happen, ever. So instead assassins are mostly stuck to thinking and hemoting and using emotes for describing the plan.

All that said it's possible for that person to give you a scene, some emote, sure. But you're probably only going to get that from an experienced player who's been through quite a few of those sorts of intense situations.

[Asche]

Rogue, you're absolutely right. I only have my own perceptions of the situation to go on. I'm getting mixed reactions from you, though. So, its retarded to hemote before killing someone, but I should give them the benefit of the doubt that they did? What stops them from simply doing the hemote, then hitting backstab right after so the player doesn't have time to exploit it? If I can keep my cool to emote after a little over a year of play, while being the RECIPIENT of the backstab, why should I feel the need to give sympathy to the person so scared/excited s/he can't emote while having the advantage of preemptive planning. I'm sorry, but if you can't bother to slip a tiny bit of interaction in, maybe you shouldn't pick 'mass murderer for no goddamn reason' as your chosen role. Its boring for everyone, except maybe the guy paralyzed in anticipation to the point where he can't emote, but can spam his combat commands seamlessly.

This is a ridiculous argument, anyways. I am talking about twinks who make the rinth a near impossible environment for non-twinks who would actually like to roleplay there. Bump into me with a regular emote, then steal from my cloak! If I exploit this knowledge ooc, when I clearly didn't notice the steal attempt, report me to staff later. Seems simple to me. If you can't handle basic interaction with your pc victims, you shouldn't play a stealthy victimizer. I'm not talking about the dude who spends a solid minute emoting the preparation of a poisoned arrow and loosing it from several rooms away, killing me before I even know what happened. Thats fine. I am talking about the relevant subject: people who twink their assassins to mastery in the Rinth with no roleplay and make it a genuinely terrible place to be. The Rinth is filled with tenements of people whom I assume don't spend the entirity of their lives sneaking down the street, hiding in every room and running at the first sign of human interaction. Its not fun. Its not interesting. It doesn't make sense within the docs, or the lore. Besides, if you're that attached to the assassin you've twinked to mastery over twenty days with little to no actual roleplay, maybe you should try playing a more interesting character. It'd be pure ecstasy, if you're that easily satisfied!

[RogueGunslinger]

Edited because I just blabber on for no reason. You're right this was a dumb argument. Nobody like twinks and people who kill for no reason, it sucks when it happens.

[Eurynomos]

Your best recourse is to submit player complaints when situations like these happen. We can grep run logs and see what is really going on, from an omniscient perspective you simply cannot have as a Player. If we see foul play, we will get in touch with the appropriate parties and let them know it isn't cool, and will usually either hand out bans or remove the guild from play if they persist against our recommendations.

Safe to say also -- There are dozens of aggressive NPC's with echoes attached to them that can seem very life-like, and are often mistaken for PCs.

[evilcabbage]

There are some VERY VERY aggro npcs if you aren't -careful- in the Rinth, yes. If you dress like you're from the southside, with big expensive linens, you are going to MEET these very aggro npcs very fast, and if you're not some kind of badass, you're going to enjoy getting stomped from eastside to westside.

[Fujikoma]

The aggro npcs are annoying, could do with a little less aggro.

[RogueGunslinger]

The aggro npcs are annoying, could do with a little less aggro.

They are fine. Stop wearing expensive shit and they leave you alone.

[HavokBlue]

The aggro npcs are probably the easiest threat to avoid in the Rinth.

[perfecto]

The aggro npcs are probably the easiest threat to avoid in the Rinth.

I haven't even been into the Lab in years but I believe this quote to be most true...

Also it used to be a kickass place to hang out, has anyone started to rebuild the Gan Zian Market yet? You used to be able to buy everything from used condoms to sightly used condoms up in there... that place was awesome!

[spicemustflow]

It's one of my goals to find out what happened to Gan Zein but no one IG knows shit

[evilcabbage]

Probably what happened with half the city. Fire and explosions.

[spicemustflow]

I still want to know. There's a sort of sinister aura around the place.

[perfecto]

I know what happened... and I presume its safe to talk about since it happened so long ago?  But if you wanna find out IG I'll just keep my fat mouth shut!

[Eurynomos]

I know what happened... and I presume its safe to talk about since it happened so long ago?  But if you wanna find out IG I'll just keep my fat mouth shut!

Some things are best not found out on the GDB

[FantasyWriter]

I know what happened... and I presume its safe to talk about since it happened so long ago?  But if you wanna find out IG I'll just keep my fat mouth shut!

You could always write a story about it from a PC or vNPCs point of view and send it it as an Original Submission and staff may publish it for us all to see.

[Barsook]

I know what happened... and I presume its safe to talk about since it happened so long ago?  But if you wanna find out IG I'll just keep my fat mouth shut!

You could always write a story about it from a PC or vNPCs point of view and send it it as an Original Submission and staff may publish it for us all to see.

Good idea there.  We do need more stories and logs.

[spicemustflow]

Rinth is such a treasure chest of creepy secrets. One day I'll make a char with the sole purpose of jumping into the hole in that shop.

[FantasyWriter]

Haha, I've thought the same thing before.

[Zoan]

WESTSIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE

[Zoan]

Also, the rinth is only considered dangerous because there's reliable threat. I'd prefer consistency over the unreliable threat that comes with living in the commons - templars, soldiers, Houses...