Half-elf Coding

[slvrmoontiger]

I was wondering if something isn't working correctly or if what I thought was incorrect. When you choose a half-elf as a PC it gives you three options as to what the PC will be. One to be more human like, one to be more elf like, and the final one to be a mix. I thought that this would make various coding differences depending on the type you picked. For instance a human coded half-elf might walk at a normal human pace with a normal human stride. This seems not to be the case. Is this option a coding option or just a way to control the Main Description of the PC? If it is a coding difference, what exactly are the differences between the three?

[Potaje]

I was wondering if something isn't working correctly or if what I thought was incorrect. When you choose a half-elf as a PC it gives you three options as to what the PC will be. One to be more human like, one to be more elf like, and the final one to be a mix. I thought that this would make various coding differences depending on the type you picked. For instance a human coded half-elf might walk at a normal human pace with a normal human stride. This seems not to be the case. Is this option a coding option or just a way to control the Main Description of the PC? If it is a coding difference, what exactly are the differences between the three?

This is only relevant towards your pc's outward appearance. The inherent traits of being a breed are still there.

[Nyr]

It does only affect outward appearance.

[Vwest]

Does it effect assess -v?

[Qzzrbl]

Does it effect assess -v?

That's pretty much the -only- thing it codedly affects, tbh.

[slvrmoontiger]

But that's not really even coding. That's all in you Main Description. So pretty much its a way to control if Mdesc is correct or not. You still assess -v as a breed. You're height and weight are all set through the creation process. So there really is no coding involved. So why have the option?

[Quell]

But that's not really even coding. That's all in you Main Description. So pretty much its a way to control if Mdesc is correct or not. You still assess -v as a breed. You're height and weight are all set through the creation process. So there really is no coding involved. So why have the option?

It does affect assess -v. Assess -v gives different results depending on if the person you're looking at is the same or different race than you. Being an apparently human half-elf will give the human result to other humans.

[chrisdcoulombe]

Doesn't it have an effect on language?  If you look more elf you don't speak Allundean as well and if you look like a human you don't speak Sirihish as well.  If you are 50/50 ?

[Morrolan]

Doesn't it have an effect on language?  If you look more elf you don't speak Allundean as well and if you look like a human you don't speak Sirihish as well.  If you are 50/50 ?

This is not coded and requires either a special app (to add/trade skills), or (if you're just removing skills) wishing up/sending in a request.

[Harmless]

...So why have the option?

Because the imms still have some sympathy for those of us who play human-appearing or elf-appearing half-breeds. For some reason. Thanks, by the way, guys.

[FantasyWriter]

...So why have the option?

Before this change (two or three years ago, i think) you could assess -v a half-elf, and regardless of how they looked and/or roleplayed, you, the player, knew with 100% certainty that they were a breed (the only race in game where race can be questionable).

A Dwarf is obviously a Dwarf. An Elf is obviously and Elf.  A Half-Giant is obviously a Half-Giant.  A Mul is obviously a Mul.
A breed is a dirty little thing that no one wants to claim.

[FantasyWriter]

...So why have the option?

Before this change (two or three years ago, i think) you could assess -v a half-elf, and regardless of how they looked and/or roleplayed, you, the player, knew with 100% certainty that they were a breed (the only race in game where race can be questionable).

A Dwarf is obviously a Dwarf. An Elf is obviously and Elf.  A Half-Giant is obviously a Half-Giant.  A Mul is obviously a Mul.
A breed is a dirty little thing that no one wants to claim.

I misspoke.  Before the change, a human would know for certain that the breed was not a human,  even if he looked like one.  An elf would know for certain that the breed was not an elf, even if he looked like one.

[slvrmoontiger]

...So why have the option?

Before this change (two or three years ago, i think) you could assess -v a half-elf, and regardless of how they looked and/or roleplayed, you, the player, knew with 100% certainty that they were a breed (the only race in game where race can be questionable).

A Dwarf is obviously a Dwarf. An Elf is obviously and Elf.  A Half-Giant is obviously a Half-Giant.  A Mul is obviously a Mul.
A breed is a dirty little thing that no one wants to claim.

I misspoke.  Before the change, a human would know for certain that the breed was not a human,  even if he looked like one.  An elf would know for certain that the breed was not an elf, even if he looked like one.

Odd all of my human looking breeds whenever doing an assess -v on another PC even a NPC human soldier has had it say they appear <> for their race. If it was the same it should say they appear <> only isn't that true? The same goes true with any elf looking breeds when doing an assess -v on an elf.

[Vwest]

You know your character is a breed.

The assess -v thing is so Joe 'OOC gangsta' Know can't just find you out with a command used to provide the player with relevant comparative information about other PCs.

He'll need to actually read your description and observe your behavior before throwing you to the 'toks.

[slvrmoontiger]

You know your character is a breed.

The assess -v thing is so Joe 'OOC gangsta' Know can't just find you out with a command used to provide the player with relevant comparative information about other PCs.

He'll need to actually read your description and observe your behavior before throwing you to the 'toks.

Some of my characters know they are breeds. Others may not. Never know.

[Vwest]

You know your character is a breed.

That is why you assess non-breeds as 'their race' instead of your pseudo-race, ie: human-breed assesses humans as 'their race'.

[Desertman]

You are a human, you are 6ft tall.

The hidden breed is 5'5.

The hidden breed still leaves long-strided tracks when you hunt them.

I just...I don't even...

(Took something out I need to confirm.)

[Barzalene]

You know your character is a breed.

That is why you assess non-breeds as 'their race' instead of your pseudo-race, ie: human-breed assesses humans as 'their race'.

Thought that was changed. And if not probably not fit for GDB

I think I might misunderstand. If so never mind.

[slvrmoontiger]

You are a human, you are 6ft tall.

The hidden breed is 5'5.

The hidden breed still leaves long-strided tracks when you hunt them.

I just...I don't even...

(Took something out I need to confirm.)

Is this allowable to discuss what leaves what tracks here?

[FantasyWriter]

The general rule is: If it is not something that is documented then no, do not discuss it on the GDB.

[Desertman]

You are a human, you are 6ft tall.

The hidden breed is 5'5.

The hidden breed still leaves long-strided tracks when you hunt them.

I just...I don't even...

(Took something out I need to confirm.)

Is this allowable to discuss what leaves what tracks here?

I really don't think I have told you anything that you couldn't assume given an understanding of basic physics, and reality.

Humanoids leave tracks. This includes half-elves. Because half-elves are humanoids.

Because humanoids are bipedal (we have two legs), our tracks would of course indicate a specific stride. Meaning taller people would have a longer stride, and shorter people would have a shorter stride, such is the way of the world and the mechanics of all existence.

All I have told you here is that in game when you hunt something/someone, sometimes you can tell how tall they are based on their tracks. Just like in real life.

I haven't told you how a bahamet track looks for example.

All I have really told you is....half-elves leave humanoid tracks.

I would hope that would be obvious.

Now, what I am pointing out code wise that couldn't automatically be assumed by anyone with a basic understanding of....people....is that even when you hunt a half-elf that is shorter than you, or is even shorter than a typical human, they still appear to leave tracks as though they are taller than a typical human.

I'm almost certain that shouldn't be that way, just based on...legs.

[Delirium]

Perhaps stride length in tracks should be height related and not race related.

[Desertman]

Perhaps stride length in tracks should be height related and not race related.

Delirium, getting the points of my posts since 2002.

Nyr! I demand you put the HRPT on hold to fix tracks based on height. This is breaking my immersions.

Also, fireballs.

[chrisdcoulombe]

Wait, I have a better solution...Kill all Half-elves during the hrpt.  Problem solved..I win. I win.  But how will I be able to accurately hunt them down?    NOOOOOO!

[slvrmoontiger]

Perhaps stride length in tracks should be height related and not race related.

I agree with this. Stride length should be height depending not race dependent. There are breeds out there that are shorter than some humans, why would their strides be longer? If you want to go based on matter of physics then people who are taller should have longer strides. Simple fact of physics.

[Desertman]

Perhaps stride length in tracks should be height related and not race related.

I agree with this. Stride length should be height depending not race dependent. There are breeds out there that are shorter than some humans, why would their strides be longer? If you want to go based on matter of physics then people who are taller should have longer strides. Simple fact of physics.

I agree with Silver Moon Tiger. He is a smart man that says smart things.