Air Pressure

Started by najdorf, January 06, 2009, 12:54:12 PM

I just watched a stupid movie called "Jumper" and it gave me an idea which also can be used in armageddon.

In Zalanthas, dont we have physics? How come people dont explode or suffer from air pressure when they spam fly up or down? (Or do other things that i cannot mention here because of IC sensitivity.)

This can hit alot to Whirans and it is good for balance.

Did anyone ever discuss this before?

Quote from: najdorf on January 06, 2009, 12:54:12 PMHow come people dont explode or suffer from air pressure when they spam fly up or down?
Same reason people don't explode when skydiving?

Yeah, I can't imagine a Whiran -wanting- to fly high enough to pop.  Wouldn't you stop when it started to hurt?
Quote from: manonfire on November 04, 2013, 08:11:36 AM
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People don't pop, even without any atmosphere at all. I imagine that the atmospheric ceiling of available rooms is well below the level where you might start to bend, though.


What I really want to see is accurate weather modeling for the various zones. The kadiabatic winds coming from the Shield Wall must be intense.
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January 06, 2009, 01:25:08 PM #4 Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 01:27:59 PM by Ampere
You wouldn't explode, you would boil. Skin is elastic, so you would die and fall back to earth at terminal velocity way before it ruptured.  Oh, and I suspect the bends hurts, so you wouldn't go that high anyway, because it hurts.

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January 06, 2009, 02:50:52 PM #5 Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 02:52:45 PM by Jingo
Quote from: Ampere on January 06, 2009, 01:25:08 PM
Balance is a joke perpetrated by people who think life's fair.

Uhh. No. I'm not about to play this game, or any other without it.

As for the OP's idea, I don't think realistic physics are neccessary for this game. Though I could imagine how funny the help-files would be if they were.
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If you think people explode or boil in a vacuum, you need to learn some new physics.

January 06, 2009, 02:54:35 PM #7 Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 02:56:54 PM by Jingo
Out of curiousity what does happen to people in a vacuum?

Hey I found it!
http://space.about.com/cs/basics/a/bodyvacuum1.htm
Now you're looking for the secret. But you won't find it because of course, you're not really looking. You don't really want to work it out. You want to be fooled.

They'd probably pass out from oxygen deprivation before they got too high up in the air.  It would be cool to see an echo about your ears popping and then a penalty to your listen skill for a few hours. 
Quote from: manonfire on November 04, 2013, 08:11:36 AM
The secret to great RP is having the balls to be weird and the brains to make it eloquent.

If they pass out they fall to the ground, it's my understanding that they mentally have to decide where they float and fly and whatnot.

So If one went to high, he would just plummet when he lost it.

JaRoD

There's something highly ironic about someone who derives their power from the elemental plane of air passing out due to oxygen deprivation.

Maybe Whirans should get a new spell:  create air.

Useful only if you manage to teleport yourself to Jihae or Lirathu, but Whirans could then be Zalanthan space cadets.
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January 06, 2009, 03:30:00 PM #11 Last Edit: January 06, 2009, 03:34:35 PM by Ampere
Quote from: Yam on January 06, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
If you think people explode or boil in a vacuum, you need to learn some new physics.

Boiling is the point where a liquid turns into a vapour/gas.

EDITED TO ADD: (oops, I was mostly wrong)
Quote from: http://space.about.com/cs/basics/a/bodyvacuum1.htm
While your own normal blood pressure will keep your blood from boiling, the saliva in your mouth could very well begin to do so. In 1965, while performing tests at the NASA facility now known as Johnson Space Center a subject was accidentally exposed to a near vacuum (less than 1 psi) when his space suit leaked while in a vacuum chamber. He did not pass out for about 14 seconds, by which time unoxygenated blood had reached his brain. Technicians began to repressurize the chamber within 15 seconds and he regained consciousness at around the equivalent of 15,000 feet of altitude. He later said that his last conscious memory was of the water on his tongue beginning to boil.
Quote from: scienceAn early study by Plaut and Kohn-Speyer (1947)[11] found that horse smegma had a carcinogenic effect on mice. Heins et al.(1958)

Quote from: Ampere on January 06, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: Yam on January 06, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
If you think people explode or boil in a vacuum, you need to learn some new physics.

Boiling is the point where a liquid turns into a vapour/gas.


Technically I think it's the point where the vapor pressure of the liquid equals the surrounding atmospheric pressure.
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Quote from: Synthesis on January 06, 2009, 03:40:18 PM
Quote from: Ampere on January 06, 2009, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: Yam on January 06, 2009, 02:52:00 PM
If you think people explode or boil in a vacuum, you need to learn some new physics.

Boiling is the point where a liquid turns into a vapour/gas.


Technically I think it's the point where the vapor pressure of the liquid equals the surrounding atmospheric pressure.

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Quote from: Thunkkin on January 06, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
I just look for bubbles.

Then I add the macaroni.

Under the right high-pressure atmospheric conditions, you can cook your macaroni without even seeing the bubbles.  Science!
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Quote from: Synthesis on January 06, 2009, 04:15:43 PM
Quote from: Thunkkin on January 06, 2009, 04:10:32 PM
I just look for bubbles.

Then I add the macaroni.

Under the right high-pressure atmospheric conditions, you can cook your macaroni without even seeing the bubbles.  Science!

I actually heard about this on NPR.  Science = hurrah!  Macaroni = WIN!
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Quote from: Synthesis on January 06, 2009, 04:15:43 PM
Under the right high-pressure atmospheric conditions, you can cook your macaroni without even seeing the bubbles.  Science!

Like a pressure cooker!
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Quote from: Jingo on January 06, 2009, 02:54:35 PM
Out of curiousity what does happen to people in a vacuum?

Hey I found it!
http://space.about.com/cs/basics/a/bodyvacuum1.htm

Aww, I almost got excited and thought that was a video.
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Quote from: najdorf on January 06, 2009, 12:54:12 PM
..... a stupid movie called "Jumper"......

This is the most scientifically accurate statement in this topic.
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My mind is still blown by Tisiphone's use of the word 'kadiabatic.'

How the fuck do you do that?  Seriously.
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Quote from: Malifaxis on January 14, 2009, 06:55:53 PM
My mind is still blown by Tisiphone's use of the word 'kadiabatic.'

How the fuck do you do that?  Seriously.

I believe that was a typo. I think she meant to say adiabatic. Kadiabatic doesn't mean anything(as far as I know, 'cause Tisi damn well has a larger vocabulary than I.)

I think silt flyers should get totally stoned in the zalanthan atmosphere
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January 15, 2009, 09:22:02 AM #26 Last Edit: January 15, 2009, 10:57:17 AM by Tisiphone
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on January 15, 2009, 12:45:28 AM
I believe that was a typo. I think she meant to say adiabatic. Kadiabatic doesn't mean anything(as far as I know, 'cause Tisi damn well has a larger vocabulary than I.)

No, adiabatic is something different.

Kadiabatic is more commonly known as katabatic, it seems. Colour me surprised; I could have sworn kadiabatic was the more common spelling. The scientists usually like to take the poetic forms, but I guess most didn't in this case.

I always remember it because of the beginning of the Plato's Republic.
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"Kadiabatic" refers to elements of High Zalanthan Fashion that do not change over time.  White, for instance, is always in style.
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Quote from: Tisiphone on January 15, 2009, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on January 15, 2009, 12:45:28 AM
I believe that was a typo. I think she meant to say adiabatic. Kadiabatic doesn't mean anything(as far as I know, 'cause Tisi damn well has a larger vocabulary than I.)

No, adiabatic is something different.

Kadiabatic is more commonly known as katabatic, it seems. Colour me surprised; I could have sworn kadiabatic was the more common spelling. The scientists usually like to take the poetic forms, but I guess most didn't in this case.

I always remember it because of the beginning of the Plato's Republic.

I see kadiabatic more often than katabatic.