Law and order in the Blackwing outpost

[spicemustflow]

I'm assuming that the Blackwing tribe thinks murder and fightings inside their outpost is bad for business and therefore their outpost is a relatively safe place. Am I wrong? Anybody who visits the outpost occasionally would know that, so please dont tell me to find out IC .

[Doppelganger]

The way outpost residents are scripted has little to do with the way they are supposed to think.
All it offers is a little insight into mindset of average coder of the day which can be described as simply as "work less, eat more".
Hope it helps.

[Marauder Moe]

No offense, but, if you believe that someone who would visit the outpost occasionally would know then either your character doesn't visit the outpost occasionally or your statement is incorrect.   

I think you should find out IC, and by that I mean you should wish up to have an imm animate someone there so you can ask them.

[Tisiphone]

Also, as I don't -think- the Outpost is in the public docs, it shouldn't be on this board. Yes, I know about help city_blackwing.

[brytta.leofa]

Also, as I don't -think- the Outpost is in the public docs, it shouldn't be on this board. Yes, I know about help city_blackwing.

It's in: http://www.armageddon.org/ic/tribal.php
"They are one of the more populous isolated tribes of the Known World, and own and operate the Desert Elf Outpost for the exchange of fine handicrafts with materials they cannot acquire in the desert wastes."

[Forest Junkie]

No offense, but, if you believe that someone who would visit the outpost occasionally would know then either your character doesn't visit the outpost occasionally or your statement is incorrect.   

I think you should find out IC, and by that I mean you should wish up to have an imm animate someone there so you can ask them.

No offense, but maybe their character should know something the player doesn't. The OP was asking a question about a matter they as a player didn't know, but they as the character should. I think that was fairly self-evident.

[Sokotra]

I'm assuming that the Blackwing tribe thinks murder and fightings inside their outpost is bad for business and therefore their outpost is a relatively safe place. Am I wrong? Anybody who visits the outpost occasionally would know that, so please dont tell me to find out IC .

I would assume the same thing, but you also might not be extremely safe in a d-elf outpost full of elves when you are one of the very few (if any) non-elves there.  I'm not sure what issue you might have had, but I'm just guessing because I've wondered the same thing.  So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if you were a non-elf that got murdered there and nobody helped stop the perpetrator or in fact they might have even helped the perpetrator.  This could probably be considered IC common sense that your character should know.  However, I would still consider it somewhat twinkish if a d-elf was taking advantage of this and murdering non-elves there just because they knew that they could do so without any consequences.  But then again, that might just be how things work and it just might not be the safest place for a non-elf to be (again, I'm just guessing through IC common sense that an average Zalanthan should know) so that d-elf that might have committed the act might have been within his bounds to do so - but he also should face some retribution from those that run the outpost.  Unless, of course, there was some IC reason for the non-elf to be killed where members of the outpost would not care.  (i.e. non-elf might be hunting on someones territory or whatever)

[Yam]

Anyone fighting or causing trouble in or around Blackwing but the Blackwing is going to get murderized.

Blackwing depends on that outpost for trade. Trade is vital to their particular level of existance. They will not let anyone fuck up their trade, pointy ears or not.

There is no elven nation. Outsiders are outsiders. Trade is trade. Don't fuck around in Blackwing.

[a strange shadow]

What Yam said. And for emphasis overall:

There is no elven nation. Outsiders are outsiders.

[Sokotra]

Well I guess that answers the question unless the OP had some other situation happen that doesn't fit with the answer given.

[spicemustflow]

It does perfectly, thanks.

[touringCompl3t3]

Anyone fighting or causing trouble in or around Blackwing but the Blackwing is going to get murderized.

Blackwing depends on that outpost for trade. Trade is vital to their particular level of existance. They will not let anyone fuck up their trade, pointy ears or not.

There is no elven nation. Outsiders are outsiders. Trade is trade. Don't fuck around in Blackwing.

I like this.  Agreed.

[Synthesis]

Pshaw.

There's trade...and then there's TRADE.

If you're a solo hunter going into the Outpost, who gives a shit about you, you measly, insignificant peon?

On the other hand, if you're on the Kadian Wonder Wagon, you might get some protection.

[Yam]

Solo hunters bring in rare hide that Blackwing traders use to produce the goods for the Kadian Wonder Wagons.

What happens when pissed off Soh chase off or kill all the solo traders that visit your outpost?

What happens when the pissed off Soh think they're hot shit because you didn't chase them off for disrupting minor trade and attack the Kadian Wonder Wagon.


Well, you're fucked when that happens. So you don't let it happen.

It's kind of the same reason why Wizards of the Coast would care to protect the copyrights of out of print products.

[Synthesis]

Overestimating your importance in the grand scheme of things is a step on the road to a disappointing death.

[Tisiphone]

Overestimating your importance in the grand scheme of things is a step on the road to a disappointing death.

Underestimating the blades of the Blackwing is a quicker one.

[spicemustflow]

No offense, but, if you believe that someone who would visit the outpost occasionally would know then either your character doesn't visit the outpost occasionally or your statement is incorrect.  

I think you should find out IC, and by that I mean you should wish up to have an imm animate someone there so you can ask them.

Moe, you fail at "find out IC" . You shouldn't have to go to a security guard to ask him would it be illegal for you to kill a man in the casino, cause you're not sure if the owner frowns upon that.

[Tisiphone]

No offense, but, if you believe that someone who would visit the outpost occasionally would know then either your character doesn't visit the outpost occasionally or your statement is incorrect.   

I think you should find out IC, and by that I mean you should wish up to have an imm animate someone there so you can ask them.

Moe, you fail at "find out IC" . You shouldn't have to go to a security guard to ask him would it be illegal for you to kill a man in the casino, cause you're not sure if the owner frowns upon that.

That analogy might hold if the Blackwing were anything like any casino you will likely ever visit - that is, an establishment built under a larger umbrella of law than itself, with the society fostering that law holding a basic liberal attitude towards life.

[spicemustflow]

Alright, replace the casino with the illegal gambling ring or a brothel  or something equally below the law. The people operating such place would be really pissed off if you did anything to diminish the flow of their clients.

[Sokotra]

Yeah, I'd have to say that is true in general.  It would have to be a special occasion in order for someone to be killed in the middle of the place.

[Marauder Moe]

No offense, but, if you believe that someone who would visit the outpost occasionally would know then either your character doesn't visit the outpost occasionally or your statement is incorrect.  

I think you should find out IC, and by that I mean you should wish up to have an imm animate someone there so you can ask them.

Moe, you fail at "find out IC" . You shouldn't have to go to a security guard to ask him would it be illegal for you to kill a man in the casino, cause you're not sure if the owner frowns upon that.

I might if it were a casino in Somalia or something.

[spicemustflow]

If it was a casino in Somalia, I think you'd get answer quicker by looking at men with guns standing all over the place.

[Tisiphone]

If it was a casino in Somalia, I think you'd get answer quicker by looking at men with guns standing all over the place.

Hey, there's a good idea! Next time you look in on the Outpost, check around to see if there are any guards.

[flurry]

I just wanted to mention that you could find something like this out IC. It gives you a good reason to talk to other characters, too.

And if you think your character absolutely would have some knowledge already, but it's not in the documents, you can always use the request tool.

[touringCompl3t3]

Pshaw.

There's trade...and then there's TRADE.

If you're a solo hunter going into the Outpost, who gives a shit about you, you measly, insignificant peon?

On the other hand, if you're on the Kadian Wonder Wagon, you might get some protection.

I disagree with this sentiment.  I've seen a lot of the more cookie-cutter desert elves treat the Blackwing Outpost as a place to hang out and stomp noobs.  I doubt that the Blackwing would permit this.  They have a vested interest in maintaining the reputation of the Outpost as a safe place where people are free to buy the Blackwing overpriced goods. 

Business would be very good for them, in my opinion, because if you compare the Outpost to the surrounding area there is really no other good place to conduct trade in the nearby area.  In other words, the Blackwing enjoy a partial monopoly on regional trade, a monopoly worth protecting. 

Also, I fail to see the sport in stomping noobs and solo hunters.  Lots of peeps do this -- it's rather common.

I'm not picking a fight with you Synthesis.  Generally I respect your posts and I'm glad that this topic has been brought up, because I've wanted to weigh in on it.

[Myrdryn]

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