A crap idea...

[Spoon]

While this might not sound serious, I actually am. Kind of.

I've noticed there are a few dung items 'floating' around Zalanthas. So, I thought: "Hey wouldn't it be COOL if pack animals and mounts had a crap every once in a while and produced one of these items."

On the negative side, the entire gameworld might literally fill up with shit.

On the positive side, PCs would complain about the amount of shit, other PCs could be employed to clear up all the crap on caravan road, plus you could throw dung at people you don't like, musicians you don't like, sneaky types could plant crap on people to make them smell bad... and so much more. Possibly.

[Cegar]

YES NOW IMPLEMENTATION NOW!

[Angela Christine]

It should also be useful as campfire fuel.  



AC

[Hymwen]

Well, it's not the worst idea ever, but I think it's a bit redundant. Also, there are places where lots mounts are kept in pens rather than being rented to an NPC... those places would fill up with shit faster than the Byn latrines on a peak night.

[Cegar]

As it should be. Zalanthas needs more shit and dirt.

[John]

Rather then cause scripts to need to be written up, I'd prefer it just be foragable.

[Cegar]

Well, a lot of things replenish over time. Fruit spawns, other... things. The script would be easy, I assume.

[moab]

Well you have an animal crap now and again and in areas where there are lots of animals simply have a check to see if a crap object (or two) is already loaded before loading another one.  This might simulate "usable" crap verses the crap that is there that got trampled back into the ground.

The crap from certain animals could then be perhaps crafted into poisons or drugs if someone had the proper skill and knowledge for it.

It is an interesting idea.

You might even have to do something like:

feed <creature> <food item>

To get the proper biological mechanisms working.  heh.

[John]

Well, a lot of things replenish over time. Fruit spawns, other... things. The script would be easy, I assume.

As moab hinted, if animals are going to shit, shouldn't they require food? If they require food, then how do wild mounts survive? If wild mounts can survive (because they don't require food), why can't domesticated ones in the same manner (sometimes it'll be because they've been domesticated too much, but not always)? And if mounts can codedly produce shit, why can't my human? If my human can produce shit, shouldn't I be forced to go to the toilet?

I just think a simpler solution then taking all of that into account, would be to have shit be foragable

[Cegar]

Oh, I would love a shit command.

shit bed.

You squat over a luscious, silk-covered bed.

You feel your muscles contract.

[John]

Oh, I would love a shit command.

What about requiring you shit for every X amount of food you eat within time frame Y? And not allowing you to shit if you haven't eaten A amount of within time frame A? See how it's suddenly expanded from a simple script to a whole lot of other considerations?

[Cegar]

Yeah, but that isn't necessary.

[Cale_Knight]

Totally unncessary. We're not playing BioMud. This is a fantasy game. Have you ever played a D&D game where your DM required you to take a dump every 12 hours of game time?

On the other hand, being able to forage dung from logical areas would be a neat idea.

[Cegar]

I'd rather have it build up on streets etc. All those kank emotes down Caravan Road and what not... some should emote kanks shitting and come attached with presents.

[Tlaloc]

While this might not sound serious, I actually am. Kind of.

I've noticed there are a few dung items 'floating' around Zalanthas. So, I thought: "Hey wouldn't it be COOL if pack animals and mounts had a crap every once in a while and produced one of these items."

On the negative side, the entire gameworld might literally fill up with shit.

On the positive side, PCs would complain about the amount of shit, other PCs could be employed to clear up all the crap on caravan road, plus you could throw dung at people you don't like, musicians you don't like, sneaky types could plant crap on people to make them smell bad... and so much more. Possibly.

I actually coded this up a while back, with the help of Brixius, and even went so far as to create a system wherein dung beetles would occasionally come by and roll up the balls of crap, and take them away (to prevent the world from filling up with shit). Sanvean even coded up some dung merchants, so PCs could become dung scavengers with the use of shovels, and use it as a source of fuel for fires.

However, this project got shelved as we realized every single animal in the world would need to have the script attached to it, and as silly as it sounds: the sheer number of animals crapping on ginka might have actually eaten up processor power, and lagged up the system.

That said, there have been some amazing advancements in javascripting technology since then. When we coded that, we were at the "Hey, look, we can make things emote!" stage. Now we're at the "Hey, look, we can simulate LIFE!" stage. So...maybe we can dust off the project and see about bringing some new shit to this game.

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

I'd say that I like this idea, but then, I like -every- idea that brings life to the game.

Every idea.

[Angela Christine]

And since they are Zalanthan dung beetles, they will be giant sized and attack you and try to take your shit if look like you have any.  Sewer spelunkers beware!  



If the animals were generating it, rather than it being generated automatically in places like latrines and stables, it would also be useful for hunters.  If you see some animal spoor that's a clue that this might be a good place to look for tracks, even if you haven't seen an actual animal yet.  Perhaps people with the right skills, like hunters and trackers, could even Assess the dung to tell more about what sort of beast produced it.



A defecate command for PCs would have to have some limits on it.  A timer before you could use it again, or perhaps a fullness check.  Without limits a person could spam-defecate and produce their own weight in dung in an hour.   :roll:


Angela Christine

[Hymwen]

This thread is seriously silly, because it's serious, and also silly.

But if PC shitting gets implemented, I demand the following:

Shit-stained items
A "he/she smells like shit" sniff flag
The option of shitting on people, possibly with a hit/miss roll
Sun-baked shit-balls for use in slingshots

[Cuusardo]

This is one of the things I'd rather not be forced to roleplay out.

[Cegar]

But would you want the chance to?

[Anael]

Wait, are we talking about a "shit" command for PCs now?  :shock:

[Cegar]

Hell yes. Finally a chance to use that latrine.

[rishenko]

Sun-baked shit-balls for use in slingshots

Homemade Cocoa Puffs?

Would your shit-balls have differing quality dependent upon what you ate before dropping them?

Also, could a person shit on a campfire and use that instead of wood?  Rangers would love that.  Invite a friend over, burn some meat.

Code Select Expand

>shit campfire
You unleash your fury on an unlit campfire.

>hold torch

>light campfire
You light an unlit campfire.
A methane-like aroma permeates the air.

>
After taking a quick sniff of the air before tossing a large of pale flesh on the flames, the tall, mottled-skinned man says to you, in sirishish, "Mmm, now that's how you smoke meat."

[Cegar]

Dung does not smell when burned.

[Angela Christine]

Not if you dry it first.  Fresh dung might.  Especially fresh carnivore dung (which is stinkier than herbivore dung).


AC

[Spoon]

Personally, I'm not one for PCs having coded shit. I can see quite a lot could be done with animals doing this every so often, but implementing it in PCs is possibly going a little too far. You can emote doing a crap if you want, but I don't think you need an item to prove it.

[Tlaloc]

This thread is seriously silly, because it's serious, and also silly.

But if PC shitting gets implemented, I demand the following:

Shit-stained items
A "he/she smells like shit" sniff flag
The option of shitting on people, possibly with a hit/miss roll
Sun-baked shit-balls for use in slingshots

Shit-stained items flags are already in place. Join the T'zai Byn (or lurk in shitty areas) for more information. Additionally, if the monkey in you rears its ugly head, I encourage you to experiment with the throwability of manure/dung objects in-game.

[Hot_Dancer]

However, this project got shelved as we realized every single animal in the world would need to have the script attached to it, and as silly as it sounds: the sheer number of animals crapping on ginka might have actually eaten up processor power, and lagged up the system.

Did anyone else shoot a beverage out of their nose when they read this?

Hot Dancer

[flurry]

Maybe someone said this already and I overlooked it, but it would be neat to have this somehow tied into tracking animals.

I realize you can RP out finding animal scat along with its tracks, but having it coded somehow would be nifty.

[Cegar]

However, this project got shelved as we realized every single animal in the world would need to have the script attached to it, and as silly as it sounds: the sheer number of animals crapping on ginka might have actually eaten up processor power, and lagged up the system.

Did anyone else shoot a beverage out of their nose when they read this?

Hot Dancer

Yup.

[Intrepid]

This is one of the things I'd rather not be forced to roleplay out.

I agree with Cuusardo.

As hilarious as the defecating animal idea is, you guys are way too fascinated with your own feces.  I would recommend half the folks on this thread to marry tubgirl.

[Vynestra]

This thread seriously needs a disclaimer or rating on it

That being said, if a templar or noble deficate and a commoner deficates who's shit wouldn't stink?  :lol:

[Cegar]

The elf's.

[Fnord]

Now we're at the "Hey, look, we can simulate LIFE!" stage.

This excites me.  

[The7DeadlyVenomz]

Now we're at the "Hey, look, we can simulate LIFE!" stage.

This excites me.  

SimDesert.