Experienced players prefer....

Started by Fnord, December 16, 2004, 02:29:13 PM

Quote from: "Bestatte"I'm not sure how much time you feel Kurac would waste, Rhyden - you haven't really been here all that long. Perhaps if you had a few fairly long-lived characters under your belt (fairly being almost anything more than a month or two real-life each), you might see things from a different perspective.

Just cause my GDB account was made a few months ago doesn't mean I'm a noob, Bestatte. For the record, I've been playing or over a year and a half now and I have been with Kurac with more than one character and still, I think it's a waste of time for characters (OOCly of course). And also, I have had quite a few long-lived characters under my belt. I'm pretty experienced at this game guys, quit thinking that everybody makes GDB accounts within the same week they make their real Armageddon accounts, sheesh.

It's not a game Rhyden, it's an ever-evolving novel.

edited: I guess I should contribute too.

I prefer independant characters, and I don't really know why. I think it's the challenge of surviving with them or something, when it comes to clans you're handed everything, especially nowadays, you get all these restrctions, can't do this, can't do that, but you can do this and that. I don't like all that, I prefer to do my own thing with a character, and my character's don't live long because of that.  I have been playing for around seven years or so, and I took a 2 year break recently, but I am back and still I like independant characters even though there are new clans and new imms, it's still the same, you join a clan and you're restricted to certain things, and it's as if you have the imms working with you to better your character, rather then playing independant you have only yourself to better your character, not the hand-outs that you get from an imm-played NPC or PC, and all that free food and water.

-RM
"A man's reputation is what other people think of him; his character is what he really is."

Quote from: "RunningMountain"It's not a game Rhyden, it's an ever-evolving novel.

Of course it is RM, this is just my personal opinion OOCly. My appropriate characters would probably think joining Kurac would be a great honour and a good job, but OOCly, meaning I, myself, not thinking of our ever-evolving novel, don't.

Oh wait, you meant when I said 'game', lol, I just call it a game still. Well, it is a game. It's fictional, you kill stuff, RPG, I guess it's a game. Is it? If it was a novel, it'd all have to be written down though. God, I'm derailing. Anyways, game or novel, whatever, I choose indy characters over clanned characters being an experienced player myself despite the date when I joined this GDB as this account.  :D

You don't...write like an experienced player. No offense. But it just seems like you're still new. I get that new-stench coming through the ethernet cables..I don't know. I have never played with you, and I don't think I want to at this point.  If you want to speak more on it, message my yahoo.

-RM
"A man's reputation is what other people think of him; his character is what he really is."

I suppose I have no business joining in with the derailment of this thread, but I feel this needs to be said.

Just because you use an informal tone in writing or write as if you were talking on a GDB, or even actually roleplay that way, doesn't mean you're a freaking newbie.  It means that you have a casual side, and you're probably not afraid to use it.  It doesn't mean you can't write, or are inexperienced, or have no imagination with which to roleplay with.

Using stuck-up perfect writing doesn't mean you can roleplay, or that you have experience.  It simply means you have a mastery (somewhat) of the English langauge and you want to flaunt it around as much as possible or you have simply made a habit of writing like that.


That being said, please do not write in leet-speak. :)  That is just plain malicious.


Further apologies for continuing the derailment, but I've already contributed my two cents on the topic.
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Quote from: "Steel Leopard"

Just because you use an informal tone in writing or write as if you were talking on a GDB, or even actually roleplay that way, doesn't mean you're a freaking newbie.  It means that you have a casual side, and you're probably not afraid to use it.  It doesn't mean you can't write, or are inexperienced, or have no imagination with which to roleplay with.

Damn Spelling Nazis

Quote from: "RunningMountain"You don't...write like an experienced player. No offense. But it just seems like you're still new. I get that new-stench coming through the ethernet cables..I don't know. I have never played with you, and I don't think I want to at this point.  If you want to speak more on it, message my yahoo.

-RM

You don't know that, Rm. I could have been in several plots with your characters, only immortals would know. And as for the informal slanged language I tend to use, I think Steel Leopard spelled it out beautifully. It just means I'm more laid back with speaking about this little novel of ours. I'm not some strict, by the book, spelling-nazi. And just because somebody on this board writes more formally than somebody else means absolutely nothing!!! As for not wanting to play with my characters, that's a pretty harsh statement. You don't even know the type of characters I play! Maybe if you thought outside the nutshell, you'd realize that all the nazis on this board aren't always the greatest players out there! I rest my case. (Sorry to derail so much but it's not like we're gonna make a Roast Rhyden thread, or we could)  :wink:

What does your perception of someone's experience matter?  There are PCs whose players seemed new to the rules but had a better grip on character than I did in a much shorter timeframe than I did, and there are PCs whose players who have a rock-solid knowledge of the gameworld and rules who strike me as cheesy as hell.

Back to the topic, I prefer Independent PCs, though my only turn at a Kuraci PC went well as did my many PCs that dealt with Kurac in one form or another.  I'm not sure why Kurac gets panned around here.

I prefer indy PCs because I can't stand the rules a clan PC gets imposed on them which can often mean that if nobody else is around you are going to be bored.  The only times I like being in a clan are with a PC who wouldn't be going outdoors anyways, which is rare.

Quote from: "CRW"I prefer indy PCs because I can't stand the rules a clan PC gets imposed on them which can often mean that if nobody else is around you are going to be bored.  The only times I like being in a clan are with a PC who wouldn't be going outdoors anyways, which is rare.

My sentiments exactly.

I'm curious. Why do you get bored?  Can't you loose yourself in the world just cleaning your armor, fixing a few things around the barracks, doing patrols (even if its just around a small area?

Can't you loose yourself in observations your character makes?

It seems to me that the think command is useful for times like these.  When you are alone with your character start thinking - like he would think - about things that are around him or assumed around him or things that a person like s/he would think about?

Sorry for the derailment.  But it's hard for me to undestand boring...or at least when I start to get bored (as I have with slave characters) I find something to make them more exciting for me.

What's wrong with playing a bad clanny anyway?  Whose to say you have to play by the rules of the clan?  You don't HAVE to stay near the areas that you've been assigned.  They aren't going to know by magick you've violated the rules.

I once saw a clanned character (played by an Imm, I think) who was a drunk, always fell asleep on guard duty and was a real bad apple.  He was totally believable.  

If you're bored, it's not because you are playing a clanned character, I don't think.

But - I'm derailing (as I mentioned earlier) sorry.  :-)
quote="Hymwen"]A pair of free chalton leather boots is here, carrying the newbie.[/quote]

Quote from: "moab"What's wrong with playing a bad clanny anyway?  Whose to say you have to play by the rules of the clan?  You don't HAVE to stay near the areas that you've been assigned.  They aren't going to know by magick you've violated the rules.

Yes they can.  If you are supposed to be somewhere training but don't show up then it's not that hard for your superiors, virtual or not, to notice you aren't there.

So you end up hitting a training dummy for 20 minutes.

QuoteI once saw a clanned character (played by an Imm, I think) who was a drunk, always fell asleep on guard duty and was a real bad apple.  He was totally believable.

I've played clanmembers who didn't obey the rules, but I don't want to do that with every clanmember I have.

QuoteIf you're bored, it's not because you are playing a clanned character, I don't think.

You think wrong.  I'm bored because in order to play according to a rule-abiding character's personality I'm stuck attending a 20 minute armor-cleaning session with only VNPCs around me.  Then dusk comes with a half-hour reprieve at a tavern you hope isn't empty.  Lather -> Rinse -> Repeat the next day.

So what's the answer?  To recognize that playing a structured role in a clan doesn't work for me.  I don't have a problem with the way clans are run because there are some people who really enjoy it.

Maybe, just maybe, you can recognize that people are different instead of implying that I have no right to feel bored by a given situation.

Quote from: "CRW"Maybe, just maybe, you can recognize that people are different instead of implying that I have no right to feel bored by a given situation.

I didn't mean to suggest you have to right to feel a particular way.  I didn't mean to give the impression that I was invalidating your feelings. Sorry about that!    :?  Sincerely.

However, you say they are boring for you and I was offering ideas on how maybe they could be made "not boring."
quote="Hymwen"]A pair of free chalton leather boots is here, carrying the newbie.[/quote]

QuoteI'm curious. Why do you get bored? Can't you loose yourself in the world just cleaning your armor, fixing a few things around the barracks, doing patrols (even if its just around a small area?

Yes, for approximately one day. The question should be, instead, can you?

Sa'alam,

Dirr

AK,

That's a silly question.  Why would I post such a thing if I couldn't?
quote="Hymwen"]A pair of free chalton leather boots is here, carrying the newbie.[/quote]