Author Topic: New mount spam is AWFUL!  (Read 920 times)

Kyviantre

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New mount spam is AWFUL!
« on: April 29, 2020, 02:08:30 PM »
Don't know about anyone else...but sheesh!  Between two beetles, they housed 3 birds, 1 lizard, 4 tiny creatures, and a mound of ants within the space of 4 RL minutes (and pooped once).

Point 1) Why are ALL of the spam motes about a domestic mount animal it eating/stalking prey (that is going to get uncomfortable when actually trying to ride it!)

Point 2) Can we get a DRAMATIC slow down on the sheer amount of spam?  They are firing way too quick...and pushing actual roleplay off my screen!

Point 3) I don't know about anyone else, but I like to add personalities my mounts to some extent.  That is kinda ruined, since they are doing things that make no sense.  The more neutral spam mounts used to give left the liberty for individual animal personalities were better.

Anyone else taking the same issue with this?  :-[

(In the short time it took to write ^, they have eaten 2 tiny creature, 5 birds, 3 more ant mounts!!!!)
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KittenLicks

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 02:18:32 PM »
I'm all for the changes, so long as all the beetles and lizards get fat over time, as they consume vast swaths of wildlife on every ride.

Seriously though, I assumed it was just some kind of bug and will be fixed to be less silly soon?
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Kyviantre

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 02:24:59 PM »
Literally just made the comment that at this rate, my two alone will have eaten anything smaller than them within the week, and will be lolloping around trying to chew meks from the ankles up within the week.  My chitin-babies have gone FERAL! :'(

I'm fine with changes...but...this is spamming -way- (WAY!!!) too fast, and the emotes are -much- too specific (and all about eating!).

I thought it was an animate when I first saw it (the pre-RP made the timing good), and then...yeah...all our mounts are going to be fatter than nobles within an IG week!
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Brokkr

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 04:38:55 PM »
Please send in a request if it seems much too high.

Be sure to include the exact sdesc of your mount.

tortall

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2020, 05:54:13 PM »
As a note, when pooping animals was first added, they pooped waaaaaay too much. The poop will fill the stables and you couldn't lead more mounts in there until you had it all shoveled. So, easily fixable with a request. :-D
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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2020, 06:47:10 PM »
Please send in a request if it seems much too high.

Be sure to include the exact sdesc of your mount.

Oh its MUCH too high like ...outta control.  They be eating critters every two minutes and it makes no sense when you're riding along.  Some of the emotes are like 2 or 3 lines long and super distracting.

Hauwke

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2020, 07:04:33 PM »
Please send in a request if it seems much too high.

Be sure to include the exact sdesc of your mount.

Oh its MUCH too high like ...outta control.  They be eating critters every two minutes and it makes no sense when you're riding along.  Some of the emotes are like 2 or 3 lines long and super distracting.

Riding in a group is CRAZY. The hunting ones fire off every 15 seconds or so with enough people.

It absolutely has to be toned back.

Brokkr

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2020, 07:05:55 PM »
Have to make up for not eating but pooping for so long!

But seriously, which mounts.  Not sure if it is all of them or just a few.

Hauwke

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2020, 08:14:44 PM »
Have to make up for not eating but pooping for so long!

But seriously, which mounts.  Not sure if it is all of them or just a few.

Scarlet warbeetles do it, as do the glossy ones.

Giled

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2020, 08:47:50 PM »
Sandy-brown inix do as well.

BadSkeelz

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2020, 09:03:58 PM »
I haven't noticed anything unusual from muddled or purple beetles.
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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2020, 09:37:59 PM »
*sigh*

Some of you really know how to make a staffer feel motivated. One of the team spent a LOT of time working on this to give you all something new/interesting to work with or use. Nice.

Submit a bug/report - it'll get fixed.
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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2020, 10:57:15 PM »
*sigh*

Some of you really know how to make a staffer feel motivated. One of the team spent a LOT of time working on this to give you all something new/interesting to work with or use. Nice.

Submit a bug/report - it'll get fixed.

Trying to guilt trip people for saying that something is annoying on the basis that someone else spent a long time making it contributes absolutely nothing to the conversation or the issue at hand: That the message plays far too often, is disrupting, and/or is incredibly distracting to roleplay. There is no one saying that their work isn't appreciated for trying to bring flavor to the game, and they should take no offense: It is merely an issue in regards to the incredible frequency of it happening to the point it's creating spam that disrupts people.
If the person in question is truly upset, I cannot speak for everyone else, but the general intention seems to be that it is something new, and while older messages have become almost blocked by the psyche for their incredible frequency as of late, new ones immediately strike one's attentions. Give it time, and it'll simply become background flavor that people can automatically sort out of their vision when important things are happening.

BadSkeelz

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2020, 11:45:29 PM »
Imagine needing to roleplay around a mount

This post made by the d-elf gang
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Brokkr

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2020, 12:27:13 AM »
Hmmm, lets see...oh, nope, no bug reports in the request tool.

Must not be that big of an issue!

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NinjaFruitSalad

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2020, 12:37:27 AM »
*sigh*

Some of you really know how to make a staffer feel motivated. One of the team spent a LOT of time working on this to give you all something new/interesting to work with or use. Nice.

Submit a bug/report - it'll get fixed.

I do think the OP could have been nicer about it, but the fact still remains.

Like all new things, there are usually bugs, unforeseen consequences, and unintended behaviors that come with them. They just need to be tweaked out.

Hmmm, lets see...oh, nope, no bug reports in the request tool.

Must not be that big of an issue!

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Be careful what you wish for!  Now I foresee like ten people sending a report in for the same issue!   :P

Kankfly

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2020, 02:33:32 AM »
*sigh*

Some of you really know how to make a staffer feel motivated. One of the team spent a LOT of time working on this to give you all something new/interesting to work with or use. Nice.

Submit a bug/report - it'll get fixed.

I do think the OP could have been nicer about it, but the fact still remains.

Like all new things, there are usually bugs, unforeseen consequences, and unintended behaviors that come with them. They just need to be tweaked out.

Hmmm, lets see...oh, nope, no bug reports in the request tool.

Must not be that big of an issue!

*don't report bugs here, don't report them in Discord

Be careful what you wish for!  Now I foresee like ten people sending a report in for the same issue!   :P

Which shouldn't be a problem at all. If there's an issue with a newly implemented code, they should be sent via request tool so that staff can handle it. Posting it on gdb doesn't help very much because we have the request tool for it. This is like posting on the gdb saying the entire game sucks because of bug a and bug b, not helpful for improving the game in anyway. If there is a bug, send it through the request tool.
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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2020, 02:45:46 AM »
I do think Shabago's response was a bit over the top, though... Nobody said this new feature was bad. It's just too excessive, too repetitive, and happens WAY too often, disrupting normal play. If a perfumier poured 5 bottles of the finest perfume in the world onto your face, you'd probably go "what the fuck that's a lot of perfume, cough cough I can't breathe", no matter the quality of the perfume.

Like... not everything is an attack. Sometimes things are just criticism. Constructive criticism, in this case.

The "WELP GUESS IT ISNT AN ISSUE LOL :D" isn't really necessary either... What's with all the combatitiveness lately? I get Covid is working us all up, but come the fuck on, can we all just be adults to eachother and stop assuming we're all innately at eachothers throats and trying to undermine eachother? Please.

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2020, 03:19:14 AM »
To clarify as simply as possible (which is to avoid confusion, not to insult your intelligences, and no this isn't sarcasm) : I like mounts eating. Mounts should not eat every 10 seconds (yes that is an exaggeration for emphasis). Realism - present or no - should be discarded here in favour of playability. 30 minutes, maybe an hour, per nibble would be lovely. Yes, this probably would be best put into a bug report. No, I will not put it into a bug report. My qualms are with the statements made here, which are combatitive, not with the persons themselves nor the work.
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BadSkeelz

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2020, 03:31:18 AM »
The mounts eating every ten seconds is a bug. If your mount is going crazy, bug it, letting Staff know which mounts and where.

If I don't see y'alls name in the bug reporting list, y'alls bitches. (Or just riding in terrain that hasn't fired any emotes yet, since I still haven't seen anything new from mine) :(
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Lizzie

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2020, 08:50:36 AM »
*sigh*

Some of you really know how to make a staffer feel motivated. One of the team spent a LOT of time working on this to give you all something new/interesting to work with or use. Nice.

Submit a bug/report - it'll get fixed.

Trying to guilt trip people for saying that something is annoying on the basis that someone else spent a long time making it contributes absolutely nothing to the conversation or the issue at hand: That the message plays far too often, is disrupting, and/or is incredibly distracting to roleplay. There is no one saying that their work isn't appreciated for trying to bring flavor to the game, and they should take no offense: It is merely an issue in regards to the incredible frequency of it happening to the point it's creating spam that disrupts people.
If the person in question is truly upset, I cannot speak for everyone else, but the general intention seems to be that it is something new, and while older messages have become almost blocked by the psyche for their incredible frequency as of late, new ones immediately strike one's attentions. Give it time, and it'll simply become background flavor that people can automatically sort out of their vision when important things are happening.

Shabago's frustration is valid. Three people posted a concern. Brokkr gave instructions on how to get it addressed. Five more people followed with complaints, one of them twice, about the same concern that Brokkr already said could be addressed via the request tool.

Instead of saying "oh thanks Brokkr!" they felt it more important to complain about the thing that was already addressed. It makes a person feel like crap, when they're the one who brought the thing to life in the first place.
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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2020, 09:04:33 AM »
While I don't love the post title, I do appreciate the feedback. We could really use your help on this while we iron it out. These are the response of a secondary function we're putting in that I think you'll like, not just flair to distract from your story.

They shouldn't be firing while mounted/riding. That's being adjusted, along with the frequency.

For now, if you're in the middle of a scene and getting too many echos, rest your mount. That should solve it. This also goes for if you feel your mount's persona wouldn't apply to hunting behaviors.


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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2020, 10:42:33 AM »
Be kind.
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Be safe.

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I think we could stand to be a lot kinder to each other on these boards.  C'mon people.  This game we all play should be an escape where we can feel safe.  I suggest everybody read or re-read Draugr's open letter:

https://gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,55663.0.html

Brokkr

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Re: New mount spam is AWFUL!
« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2020, 11:24:47 AM »
I apologize if you felt I belittled.  I am guessing that it was my third post, which was meant humorously, if a little poke to get someone to actually put in a Bug request, as well as clarifying that the GDB doesn't count as a Bug request, in case people didn't realize that.

Please send in a request if it seems much too high.

Be sure to include the exact sdesc of your mount.

This one seems fairly straightforward.

Have to make up for not eating but pooping for so long!

But seriously, which mounts.  Not sure if it is all of them or just a few.

This one seems like an attempt at humor?

Hmmm, lets see...oh, nope, no bug reports in the request tool.

Must not be that big of an issue!

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This was presented in the OP as a huge issue.  OK, we get it.  Report it.  Not here.  Not in Discord.  In case there was any doubt whether someone experiencing this should report it, no, there wasn't anyone who had reported it properly.  There still isn't anyone who has put in a Bug report about it, despite the amount of conversation in this thread.

While this post can put us on alert about an issue, it is not a Bug report.  It isn't logged as such.  Our coders do not look on the GDB for bugs.  We are not going to have the conversation back and forth that needs to be had to figure out a few things here (while riding, while resting, which mount, where did it occur, did it occur the whole ride, did you have multiple mounts, were they all the same kind of mount, other stuff).

One more time.  If you want to see this fixed and have had an issue with it, please report it in the Request tool as a Bug.