Author Topic: Increase elf strength  (Read 5223 times)

RogueGunslinger

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #100 on: January 15, 2019, 03:08:52 PM »
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Jarvis

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #101 on: January 15, 2019, 05:34:38 PM »
Elves don't need more strength.
If anything, they need a bit more clan support in the 'rinth

But they are already one of the strongest races.
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titansfan

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #102 on: January 18, 2019, 02:40:30 PM »
Has there been a serious discussion about city elf clans and how to get one activated??? Thats all the race is really missing.
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Jihelu

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #103 on: January 18, 2019, 02:46:01 PM »
Has there been a serious discussion about city elf clans and how to get one activated??? Thats all the race is really missing.
I think staff has said they've been looking at it for a year + now.

Armaddict

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #104 on: January 18, 2019, 03:53:56 PM »
Er.

They've said there are currently no plans to open city elf clans.
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RogueGunslinger

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #105 on: January 18, 2019, 03:59:29 PM »
Playable city elf clans are an Armageddon joke at this point. They will never happen. Elves will ride before they get clans.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2019, 04:41:30 PM by RogueGunslinger »

titansfan

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #106 on: January 18, 2019, 08:56:41 PM »
As a player just returning,  that makes me sad...
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gotdamnmiracle

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #107 on: January 18, 2019, 10:15:51 PM »
Playable city elf clans are an Armageddon joke at this point. They will never happen. Elves will ride before they get clans.

Care to speculate the reason for this?
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MeTekillot

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #108 on: January 18, 2019, 11:09:06 PM »
Lack of creativity.
It's a lot more admirable to be strong in a game where strength comes at enormous risks.

Fathi

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #109 on: January 19, 2019, 01:28:07 AM »
This thread really just highlights how far weíve come as a species.

I mean, shelter/water/food/security are sooooo far from my day to day concerns, that I can focus some of my energy to debate with other internet people about the representation of physical attributes in a combat system for a text-based fantasy land.

Humans won.

Are you saying that if city elves had higher strength they would have developed the technology to post online?


But in all seriousness, I think the most frustrating thing about elf strength isnít necessarily that itís a low range in general. I like that there are trade-offs between the races and I like that the races have weaknesses.

What sucks to me is that the stat rolling system currently makes it possible for your highest stat to still be pretty dang low, even if you prioritise, and when you get rolls like THAT on a city elf, thatís when they become borderline unplayable.

Now that Iím an older, more casual gamer who canít devote so much time to skillgrinding, Iím really drawn to stat systems that arenít quite so punishingly random. If you can prioritise strength, roll an ďaverageĒ age character, and still end up with a strength of Ďaverageí on a city elf then it does feel like a pretty brutal uphill grind. Itís mathematically unlikely, but itís happened to me more than once. (Not specifically on city elves, but the whole ďprioritise x stat in an age group that isnít an outlier and still end up with Ďaverageí or Ďabove averageí as the result.Ē)

But I suppose the changes Iíd advocate for are changes to the stat system overall rather than city elves, so itís not quite on topic for this thread.

I think city elf strength doesnít suck quite so much as the specific act of rolling a city-elf with particularly average strength is just particularly noticeably bad. I can and have struggled through on a human with a spread of BA/Av/AA stats, but on a city elf Iíd probably store because that value is low enough that itís just not a fun mission to try to overcome.
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RogueGunslinger

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #110 on: January 19, 2019, 01:52:04 AM »
Playable city elf clans are an Armageddon joke at this point. They will never happen. Elves will ride before they get clans.

Care to speculate the reason for this?

Only staff could say for sure. Could be something lost to the wayside while other things got done. Could be reasons of too much consolidated power. Could be bad luck and timing. Maybe the staff who tried all had real life bite them in the ass.

I highly doubt it is due to lack of creativity.

Greve

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Re: Increase elf strength
« Reply #111 on: January 19, 2019, 04:41:02 AM »
Elven strength doesn't need to be increased, the benefits of strength in the upper end for dwarves need to be decreased.
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