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nauta

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The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« on: February 08, 2018, 10:38:30 AM »
I was doing a bit of history diving on Armageddon recently, and came across this old website from the mid-2000s: A recommended reading list for clans and races.

https://web.archive.org/web/20100802141536/http://www.armageddon.org:80/books/clanread.html

In that spirit, what are some books that inspired your character?  What are some books that help you visualize Zalanthas, the world as a whole?  A particular clan or area or race?  (I love the recommended reading for Mantis on that link.)
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MarshallDFX

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2018, 10:54:20 AM »
When I started playing I read Ursula K Le Guin left hand of darkness and always kind of visualized the differences between allanaki and tuluki societies in the same fashion

Miradus

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2018, 06:13:40 PM »
Books, sometimes ... but music a lot more.

With a character from a book, he's already lived his story. A character roughly fleshed out from a song ... well ... I can go anywhere with that.

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azuriolinist

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2018, 09:14:58 PM »
I found the dark themes of the First Law series (all seven books) by Joe Abercrombie show a striking resemblance to Armageddon's own theme. There's plenty of betrayal, manipulation, and blackmailing throughout the series. The bittersweet ending could definitely have taken place in Zalanthas.

Plus, there are such a variety of characters in the series. Each and every one of them would fit so well in Zalanthas. I've probably taken more than a tiny bit of inspiration from some of the characters in the series.

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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2018, 11:23:10 PM »
First Law is great. Also Mark Lawrence- the Thorns trilogy and the Red Queen's War trilogy. Both are solid, brutal. I almost don't want to share them because I absolutely steal stuff from them for Zalanthas.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2018, 11:29:18 PM »
Gentlemen Bastards.

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« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2018, 06:29:37 AM »
Hell yeah, though I'm STILL WAITING for the next book...
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2018, 08:16:21 AM »
I get lots of my roleplay personality ideas from books!
ironically, some of my favorite PCs have been derived from characters like Lucky Jack Aubrey from the Aubrey Maturin series of british naval fiction novels (think Master and Commander).  zalanthas could not be more different from the napoleonic era high seas, but I just love the way they talked back then.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2018, 03:30:14 PM »
The rinth reminds me of a mix of Neverwhere and Trainspotting.

The Atrium reminds me a little of Kushiel's Dart (the first part).

I second everything by Joe Abercrombie.

China Mieville and Catherynne Valente are two of my biggest inspirations, stylistically. I fall hard for their use of language.

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2018, 09:22:45 AM »
D elves.

Dan Carlin's Apache Tears introduced me to the wonderfull Eve Ball and her histories. If you want some stories of savagery and opression, read some of her stuff. Brutal and heartbreaking.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2018, 02:40:03 PM »
A Canticle for Leibowitz, specifically part 1.

A vast desert wasteland, rubble, survival, bandits, zealots.

Good stuff.
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Miradus

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2018, 04:23:31 PM »
A Canticle for Leibowitz, specifically part 1.

A vast desert wasteland, rubble, survival, bandits, zealots.

Good stuff.

That's a great one.

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The Great Corn

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 06:41:30 PM »
I've always pulled a lot of inspiration from the Wheel of Time, sometimes without realizing it. The different cultures and attitudes, the way prejudices are portrayed, I really dig it man.

Edit: Also the combat, Aeilman, Borderlanders and Warders are what half my fighters aspire to be.
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Nao

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2018, 02:11:26 AM »
I dug out this:

http://web.archive.org/web/20051026023500/http://www.armageddon.org:80/books/staffread.html

The black company books are great and very armageddon-ish.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2018, 02:35:10 AM »
Thinking about reading some classic Dune. I have several books, and like the first one best.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #15 on: March 22, 2018, 02:47:48 AM »
Machiavelli's "The Discourses" (not "the prince", the prince is a work of satire)
Miyamoto Musashi's "The Book of Five Rings"
Sun Tzu's "The Art of War"
The Blue Cliff Record

ETA: "The Dosadi Experiment", that's both Zalanthas and Athas in a nutshell, except nicer.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2018, 11:15:31 AM »
The Black Company for: Mercs and Mages, assassins and underhanded plots. Where no one is really a good guy, and the one with the most devious plan wins. I personally love the trope of people going by aliases, too. Limper, Bonegnasher, Whisper, Journey, Silent, The Hanged Man, it's just so perfect.

Malazan Book of the Fallen: Really speaks to the soldier mindset. The inspirations from the magick in this book are also varied and very cool. (Also, the names!)

Second Abercrombie/Lawrence/Locke Lamora as well.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #17 on: May 19, 2018, 12:48:04 PM »
I was going to make sure that Malazan was mentioned.

I like that there are female characters in it who are (without spoilers) defined more by their role (in their culture / group, being vague) than they are by their sex, so that they do not fall into RL sexist tropes. Every dark fantasy element included in it was fun to read. I need to get back to that series and keep reading the rest...
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #18 on: May 19, 2018, 04:13:31 PM »
The trilogy starting with In Legend Born by Laura Resnick. Takes place on a harsh island ruled by the waterlords, who control all the water. The fire mages are hated and killed on sight.
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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #19 on: May 19, 2018, 08:46:47 PM »
I would recommend The Last Stormlord and the following two books in the trilogy by Glenda Larke, for a harsh desert where water actually matters.

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Re: The Literary Metagame: Real-life Books that evoke Zalanthas
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2018, 11:26:36 PM »
Wilderness survival for dummies
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