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MeTekillot

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Fitness
« on: January 31, 2017, 11:55:03 PM »
Noticable improvements in strength bring a unique satisfaction.
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Hauwke

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2017, 12:41:24 AM »
The last 6 months or so I have working in an office furniture store.
Them work muscles are ridiculous after this, I can lift and carry about 50kg now, whereas before I could barely carry 20kg or so.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2017, 01:58:58 AM »
Any strength gains within the first 6 weeks or so are pretty much due to neuromuscular adaptation.

The bad thing is that you can lose those particular gains within 3 or 4 weeks of inactivity.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2017, 02:23:18 AM »
Thats pretty neat to know.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2017, 07:32:18 AM »
That is pretty neat to know.

Synthesis, is this the kind of neuromuscular adaptation that can be achieved through strong mental focus? A few years ago, I learned that your fingers becoming pruney and wrinkled from water wasn't from the water itself, but some neurological response I didn't quite fully understand. So I spent several weeks training myself to make my fingers pruney on command. It took a while, but I achieved it, and after showing off for a couple days, decided I milked it for all it's worth...

Can I do that with that particular muscular response, too?
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2017, 04:07:47 PM »
That is pretty neat to know.

Synthesis, is this the kind of neuromuscular adaptation that can be achieved through strong mental focus? A few years ago, I learned that your fingers becoming pruney and wrinkled from water wasn't from the water itself, but some neurological response I didn't quite fully understand. So I spent several weeks training myself to make my fingers pruney on command. It took a while, but I achieved it, and after showing off for a couple days, decided I milked it for all it's worth...

Can I do that with that particular muscular response, too?

Can..  You still do this?  It would be really cool to see a video of this happening.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2017, 04:21:33 PM »
That is pretty neat to know.

Synthesis, is this the kind of neuromuscular adaptation that can be achieved through strong mental focus? A few years ago, I learned that your fingers becoming pruney and wrinkled from water wasn't from the water itself, but some neurological response I didn't quite fully understand. So I spent several weeks training myself to make my fingers pruney on command. It took a while, but I achieved it, and after showing off for a couple days, decided I milked it for all it's worth...

Can I do that with that particular muscular response, too?

Nah.  Muscle motor units are really pretty lazy.  They don't recruit and activate additional muscle fibers unless you force them to via repeated near-maximal efforts.  It would be super-awesome if you could just sit around and think strong thoughts, but that isn't how it works.

That being said...research surrounding fitness and nutrition is pretty weak, because the financial incentive to cash in NOW seems to be greater than the curiosity incentive to get it right...so...everyone's going to have a pet theory supported with flimsy data at best, for the foreseeable future.  (Including myself.  I bought and read through the NSCA CPT textbook, and...the principles seem to be loosely data-supported, but the fundamental questions of WHY? are still open.  I mean...as far as I know, science still can't explain why delayed-onset muscle soreness happens...like...that seems like such a simple thing, but no.)
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2017, 08:42:32 PM »
I've gained mass. Close to hitting the noob gains ceiling and am pressing against that.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2017, 09:46:01 PM »
I'm still pretty envious of people who don't have to work hard to maintain their frame. Because I work out almost every single day and my gains and transformations are so small.

Oh well. I lost a couple pounds. I guess that's something.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2017, 10:14:57 PM »
I have to eat and eat and eat and smoke weed on top of it to be hungry enough to eat enough to gain weight to match my exercise. Recent problems with headaches when my blood pressure gets too high have been making working out a lot harder. My nudes are fire tho
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2017, 02:40:07 AM »
Does working out a lot when younger help you keep in shape when older?

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2017, 02:46:38 AM »
Educated guess would be yes.
Reason being easier to keep fit if you already are.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2017, 03:18:30 AM »
Aerobic exercise I'd say maybe. After years of long distance, I can still pick up jogging quite easily, especially if I've shed a bit of weight at work. Stiff as a board though, and as stretchy as a length of No 8 wire in a frost.
I understood though,  that muscle development from strength training turns to fat which is quite a handicap if you want to return to working order in old age? Have I got any of that right?

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2017, 03:35:05 AM »
To expand on my comment:

Im not a gym junky or anything, in fact ive never ever even worked out in a gym, just one of those super lucky individuals who dont get fat easy but do gain muscle easy apparently.

Im probably talking out my ass here but it would make sense to my brain that muscle memory could play into the fitness one can have when they age. A super buff guy will have a lot of muscle just itching to turn to fat, but a moderately muscled guy could probably pull it off in the sense that because his body is used to working out and thus burning calories and losing fat, it may be easier for his body to continue doing just that long past the muscle dude whose body would be better suited to bulking up instead of slimming down.

I never claim to be a smart man, but im far from stupid and this sort of makes sense in my head so maybe it makes sense to others too?

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2017, 11:34:27 AM »
Muscle doesn't "turn into" fat, except in the sense that as the muscle atrophies, the protein comprising the muscle fibers is broken down and returns to circulation, where it's metabolized either to burn energy or stored as general body fat, but that doesn't happen locally (i.e. the muscle doesn't -literally- turn into fat -in place-).

You lose muscle cross-sectional area as it atrophies due to lack of use, AND you gain body fat as your calorie intake rises above your calorie expenditure.

There's a false-correlational element to the idea that "people who were fit when they were younger get fit easier when they're older."  That is, people who were fit when they were younger are more likely to be genetically predisposed to being "fit" in general, which means that when they're older, they're still genetically predisposed to being fit, or at least having it easier when it comes to becoming fit again.  It has nothing to do with their actual fitness levels when they were younger.  If they happened to be complete slugs in their 20s, but had the genetic material to be superstar athletes, when they start working out in their 30s and 40s, they're going to figure out real quick that they had that potential.

By the same token, if you've always found fitness difficult to maintain, it probably will always be difficult for you.  Personally, I put about 10 hours a week (lifting and running) just to perform at 'meh.'

You don't maintain things like muscle cross-sectional area, motor unit-fiber recruitment, and mitochondrial density for very long after you stop working out.  Fortunately, research has shown that you really only need to work the muscle about once a week in order to simply maintain strength.  Not sure about mitochondrial density for endurance, though.

One thing, though...if you are just starting to lift, run, or whatever...you're going to be HELLA SORE for 24-72 hours after the first few times you do it.  Science can't really explain this (delayed-onset muscle soreness) yet, but it kind of stops happening after a few weeks.  Don't be discouraged by it.  You aren't broken.  Your physical body is just lazy as hell and tries to avoid doing work at all costs, because evolutionarily it's adapted to famine, not overabundance.
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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2017, 03:16:55 PM »
I used to be super athletic. Then I had knee surgery. Then I was diagnosed as having fibromyalgia. Building any kinda muscle mass takes forrrrever.

I might not look it, but I can probably kick most people's ass at the Y. Also, being able to leg press more than beefy dudes has always made me giggle.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2017, 06:20:58 PM »
I used to be super athletic. Then I had knee surgery. Then I was diagnosed as having fibromyalgia. Building any kinda muscle mass takes forrrrever.

I might not look it, but I can probably kick most people's ass at the Y. Also, being able to leg press more than beefy dudes has always made me giggle.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2017, 06:55:38 PM »
I have pretty strong legs, too. I try not to pay too much attention to other people at the gym, but I feel a little bit superior every time I see a guy with three times my biceps doing less plates on the leg press or squat rack. I also almost broke myself in half doing squats the other day and the back pain didn't hit until the next day, but I'm ok!
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2017, 08:46:59 PM »
I should squat more. I should focus more on muscular endurance. But I don't.

I think my butt's grown an inch, though. Like. Out. I should keep going.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #19 on: February 02, 2017, 09:46:05 PM »
My ass is callipygian
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2017, 10:14:43 PM »
I think a lot of mine has to do with my stride. I'm almost pigeon toed sometimes if I'm hurrying. It's ridiculous. I have to consciously try to point my toes at outward angles just to walk right.

I'm getting there. It's just remembering to use my ass instead of my thighs when I'm walking and lunging and squatting. My thighs are damn sexy, though.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2017, 10:48:20 PM »
Use your heels when you do squats or any other leg exercise, don't use your toes on the upward push if you're wanting to work on your butt. Calf raises notwithstanding.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2017, 07:17:07 AM »
I do! I swear.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2017, 07:55:44 PM »
I'm at 175 lbs of what seems to mostly be muscle since my gratuitous mirror posing hasn't revealed any pockets of fat. I'm going for 190-200, or whatever I end up at when I have Brad Pitt's body from Fight Club.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2017, 09:33:09 PM »
I bumped up ten pounds on my abductions.

I have so little core strength. No matter what I do. Halp.

I do like doing Russian twists though.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2017, 09:59:25 PM »
6 months away from the gym and a summer that was WAY too humid for regular bike-riding or walking outdoors, combined with the exit from menopause into post-menopause a year ago, caused me to lose muscle mass and gain a little weight. Total gain is 6 pounds in the past 18 months.  The doctor says that's actually pretty good, since it's common for women to gain between 10-20 pounds in their first post-menopausal year. I'm low in vitamin D - also common for winter months in New England, and my cholesterol is just slightly north of the acceptable range, for the first time ever in my life (it's always been well within a normal acceptable range). Glucose is spot on and so is my TSH and free T-this that and the other thing and everything else your blood can possibly tell a lab.

SO...

I have to eat fewer carbs, and exercise more again. I can do that, my co-worker (who is like an adopted daughter) and I have been doing a mini workout each morning that we open the store together. Ten minutes HIIT, including squats, jump-squats, walking lunges, jogging in place, and pseudo-push-ups (tilted up by turning a hand-held shopping basket upside down on the floor and holding our hands on the edges of our basket).

And then we spend the next 2 hours climbing up and down ladders to stock the shelves before the store opens.

The carb thing's going to be difficult. I work in a store that sells candy by the piece, and those Wurther's Originals are just THERE - calling my name. I also love bread, and pasta. Thankfully I only have to cut down, not eliminate. But it'll still be difficult.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #26 on: February 14, 2017, 09:43:59 AM »
The carbs are the worst for me, though I certainly have an addiction to sugar.

I actually take 10,000 IU of Vitamin D (like my body can even absorb it) because of aforementioned New England Winters. With triglycerides off the charts from all the fat and carbs, and a 'normal' blood sugar level that's more where I'd like my WEIGHT to be, I have to make changes.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2017, 05:28:05 PM »
Hey MeTekillot, if you want huge forearms, start lifting in front of you. Like work lifting rather than Gym lifting, it might help with the goal you have.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2017, 12:23:55 AM »
I jerk off a lot, does that help?
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2017, 01:49:02 AM »
I suppose it depends on the weight range you have dude

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2017, 01:57:19 AM »
Hey MeTekillot, if you want huge forearms, start lifting in front of you. Like work lifting rather than Gym lifting, it might help with the goal you have.

How, exactly, is that going to cause forearm muscular hypertrophy?

Generally speaking, the farther you lift something away from your anterior-posterior center of gravity, the only additional musculature you'll be engaging is your posterior chain (especially your back), and the resulting mechanical disadvantage will mean you can't lift as much weight, which would tend to reduce the hypertrophic response relative to a regular lift.

The muscles of your forearm follow the same rules for hypertrophy as any other muscle group.  If you want to specifically train them, do a full range of motion in flexion, extension, adduction, and abduction...and pronation/supination, if you've got gym equipment that can do it.  Do 5x5 or 8-6-4-6-8 or whatever set/rep combo works for you, and do it to failure.  That's...pretty much it.  It's not rocket science.

(I do 5x5 if I have a spotter or I'm on a machine where dropping the weight doesn't matter, and 8-6-4-6-8, sometimes 8-6-4-4-?-? otherwise, because I feel like I'm much less likely to have sudden "oh shit, having a bad day" moments with the higher-rep pyramid.)
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #31 on: February 16, 2017, 04:51:28 AM »
Dude all I know is that my forearms are fucking ripped from working in a furniture store lifting all the things in front of me.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2017, 08:45:28 PM »
Weight gains are more consistent if I work out then rest the entire next day and night while maintaining high caloric intake instead of exercising every day with the caloric intake.

I'm almost to average intermediate weight lifter levels on my bench press, which is where I'm really the weakest. My chest is weak compared to the average, but my arms, back, core, and legs are stronger than average.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2017, 12:52:28 AM »
I've lost 10 pounds. My arms are sleek. Honestly, my core is my weakest part. Let's trade, met.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2017, 10:42:12 AM »
Consistency is key when trying to change your body. You look like what you do. Unfortunately, if you have a desk-job, you will look like you have a desk-job; that is, unless you spend a good portion of your free-time doing other things.

For instance, I spend all of my free-time eating around 4k-5k calories worth of food per day, gardening, hunting, arming, and reading... That being said, I've worked in construction and manual labor my whole life, so I am a lean 200lbs at 6'2" height.

My brother is similarly built, though he has an administrative job... He also goes to the gym for 3 hours 6 days per week.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2017, 11:04:13 AM »
Hahahahaha.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2017, 11:37:51 AM »
What.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2017, 01:05:01 PM »
Since my chiropractor visit I've been steadily getting back into shape. The desk job is killing me, though. It's annoying to go from a job where working out 3 hours a day was the norm to having to struggle to find motivation and time in a 70 hour work week. Most of the time even when I do feel motivated to do it, it's late at night.

I'm probably going to have to go on a 1 week a month drinking plan or something.

I'm back to averaging 200-400 pullups a week at least. I'm hoping to get my max set back to 20 by May and 23+ by later this year. Max score in our fitness test for deadhang pullups increased to 23 from 20. Ugh.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2017, 01:55:24 PM »
Cutting out alcohol and waaaayyyyyy back on simple carbs/sugars led to an over 30lb drop of weight in 3.5 months.

Basically I went back to my normal weight from having gained almost 40 pounds in the last year and change.

Diet works. Working out is good too, but you really are what you eat.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #39 on: March 10, 2017, 03:31:44 PM »
Ooo a fitness thread. I fell off kinda hard but have been making some recent progress getting back into the gym.

Main change has been pretty much waking up at 6am instead of 9ish-whenthefuckever-am. Kind of sets the mood of the day for me... Granted, over-sleeping is a known depression signal.

Oh - forearm tip. Forearms are among your most durable muscles. You can (and should) work them nearly every day if you want growth. They require very little rest.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #40 on: March 10, 2017, 05:14:12 PM »
I laugh because I work out probably more than most of you and it doesn't seem to do much for me.

Though, um, my butt got a little bigger. And my arms are kinda defined. But...
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2017, 10:14:50 PM »
What does your regimen look like?
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2017, 10:22:07 PM »
HITT 2-3x week for ~45 minutes.
Weight lifting every other day, usually in burn out clusters of chest/tricep, back/bicep, legs, for 35-40 minutes.

Walking or extra cardio for at LEAST 30 minutes every day (usually about an hour!), compounded on top of the other stuff I do, like, uh, chasing kids so they don't get mowed down in parking lots.

I'm waiting for Yam to come in and chide meeeee.

I work out too much. But the fact of the matter is is that if I don't, I won't and it'll become a bad habit. With the fibro, I have to keep moving. It's basically the only way to keep myself distracted from the worst of the pain.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #43 on: March 10, 2017, 10:30:55 PM »
Don't you know brah? Cardio kills gains
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #44 on: March 10, 2017, 10:41:40 PM »
I'm trying to lose weight. :x
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #45 on: March 11, 2017, 12:28:05 AM »
Diet is important but you prolly know that. I count calories to make sure I'm eating enough, I budget around getting the max amount of calories for dollar spent even if it's not the HEALTHIEST thing.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #46 on: March 11, 2017, 04:11:40 AM »
Apart from not buying biscuits on my weekly/ fortnightly visit to the supermarket, I find it impossible to diet. I have to rely on working hard, though I know I should be doing a bit of running too. And stretching. My aerobics are so so, and my agility is V poor. I need to lose 10 kg. I will lose 5 next month.

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« Reply #47 on: March 11, 2017, 08:52:34 AM »
Diet is important but you prolly know that. I count calories to make sure I'm eating enough, I budget around getting the max amount of calories for dollar spent even if it's not the HEALTHIEST thing.

Yeah. I was basically starving myself because I was getting maybe ~800 kcals per day. I'm feeling a little bit better at 1500, since I burn 2000 (usually more like 2300) per day.

It's just hard to force myself to eat that much. :/
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #48 on: March 11, 2017, 12:37:21 PM »
Dieting is easy in itself, but buying healthy food and cooking it every night/spending $8 on a salad at McFatties is what's hard. Cooking every night can be a pain in the ass, especially if you work, especially especially if you work AND school.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #49 on: March 11, 2017, 08:24:10 PM »
I've found the easiest way to ensure I eat healthy-ish is to just straight up not give myself any other option and find healthy stuff that caters to my laziness. If all I have in the house is salad-making stuff and lean meat and oatmeal and eggs, then when I get hungry, by god, I'll have to eat that stuff. I am a very lazy person even when my arthritis isn't flaring up, so making myself food at home is usually a game of "food of least resistance." So I just make sure that food of least resistance is veggies.

Stuff I do to make sure I don't feel like garbage:

1. Always have some stupid easy stovetop/microwave fallback options for days you just can't bring yourself to give a fuck about cooking. People who plan their lives like those days won't happen are LIARS. This stuff doesn't have to be nutritionally perfect wonderfoods that satisfy your macronutrient split. Just make it Not Garbage.

2. Don't stress if you eat stuff that's bad. Just make up for it by eating better the next day.

3. Drink less booze, if you're working on weight loss.

4. Peanut butter is your friend, if you're working on weight gain.

At the moment my dietary goals are health/illness related rather than weight loss/gain related, but I honestly think that the best thing any person can do when trying to stick to any diet is to make sure all the lazy "can't be bothered to cook" foods in the house are decent food rather than processed crap.

My lazy can't-be-fucked meals these days are greek salads, packet curry with frozen veggies, and oatmeal. None of those meals takes more than 10 minutes to make and has more than 4 ingredients.

As a person who's struggling to adjust to life with a chronic illness, I have a lot of mealtimes where I just don't have the energy to cook myself something healthy and good. I cannot overstate how AMAZING I feel now that my shitty low energy snack foods are veggies and proteins rather than french fries and frozen burritos and takeout. It's honestly made just as much of a difference to my health as my actual meds.

And all it really took was admitting to myself "some days you're not gonna have it in you to cook good stuff, so just make sure your lazy foods are less shit for you."

Idk Metek, maybe that helps. I definitely empathise with how tough it can be to cook good stuff for yourself when you're at 0 energy.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #50 on: March 12, 2017, 01:52:00 AM »
I like yoga, but I kind of fell off that wagon a while ago. I was also supposed to do some tai chi. I'll get on that.

I've been losing two pounds a week for five weeks and I actually do feel slightly better. Last week was a bust because we made a bad going-out decision and then we celebrated someone's birthday. Back on the wagon we go.

I have been eating a lot of bananas, oranges, tangerines and apples for longer than that but I'm trying to cut down (they were a LOT of my diet) because the doctor said they turn into sugar in your body (I'm not even close to a candidate for diabetes but I am still chubby-chubbs.)
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #51 on: March 12, 2017, 05:32:10 AM »
I don't know about restricting fruit. Yes they do contain sugars, but they are real, raw food with fiber and "real" vitamins etc. It just "feels"  wrong to me.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2017, 12:38:31 PM »
Currently doing a 6-day rotation:

Day 1:  2 mile run, chest, back abs
Day 2:  2 mile run, arms
Day 3:  6 mile run
Day 4:  2 mile run, chest, back abs
Day 5:  2 mile run, arms
Day 6:  2 mile run, LEG DAY
Day 7:  rest

I don't fuss much about my diet.  There's a saying in bodybuilding..."You can be lean, strong, or natural, but you can only pick two."
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« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2017, 12:54:50 PM »
Oh, running.

Nope.
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« Reply #54 on: March 20, 2017, 06:43:46 PM »
Got the road bike some new grip tape and a new seat. Struggled mightily to finish ten miles - didn't even take the 'Option' route with the brutal hills.

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« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2017, 02:12:47 AM »
I did p90x and followed the dietary restrictions, not the plan exactly and lost 76lbs last summer.    I did about  2 weeks of just cardio before that to get my body used to working out.  If you are over weight than weight loss is fast and easy.   If you are looking for gains thats another story.  I don't think there is a get fit quick scheme though. You have to put in the work and continue it to stay fit.
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« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2017, 10:27:57 AM »
Sometimes, it's a little more complicated than that.

I'm going back to low carb and restricted sugar. Nothing else has really worked for me. Even with an increase in exercise/reps/weights, I've actually gained weight by doing less cals and more carbs/sugar than when I did low carbs/low sugar/less exercise.

But, I also have PCOS, soooooooooooooooo.
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« Reply #57 on: March 21, 2017, 11:30:10 AM »
Been neglecting fitness the last few weeks but I'm going to get a nearby gym membership once I settle in.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #58 on: March 21, 2017, 11:32:52 AM »
I bought this thing a few weeks ago:



Best thing ever for lazy people like me - I put it under my computer desk and I easily do 2-3 hours a day just by playing games/doing homework/reading books.
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« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2017, 02:56:42 PM »
Rather not be gross and sweaty at my desk.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #60 on: March 21, 2017, 03:43:31 PM »
Rather not be gross and sweaty at my desk.

There's this thing called a fan that prevents it, unless you're biking 50 mph for 2+ hours :)

I wish it wasn't so heavy, though, or else I'd totally bring it at my university work desk.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2017, 06:39:43 PM »
Got my two primary workouts in this week, not the full routine though.

Legs twice, back and shoulders. Had very good lifts -was scared to do back/shoulders because I've been waking up at night now and then with the outside of an arm numb/down to two outside fingers. Weird tennis elbow style shit that I've been dealing with a few years now. Back lifts involve pulls/very hard on elbows.

Might knock out chest and triceps in the morning for a 'close enough' to full rotation score.
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« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2017, 07:04:48 PM »
I only got a small back/bicep workout and a regular chest/tricep session in this week. I can tell, too.

But, the week before, I corked my fucked up right shoulder doing some lat exercises that I overextended upon. I have a rotator cuff issue that my doctor said she'd prescribe PT for that she, um, never did. Other than that, she said she could just put me on prednisone for it and I, uh, politely declined. No thanks.

I need to get back to lifting. Walking for a couple hours every morning doesn't give quite the same satisfaction as a 30 minute weight lifting session to me.
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« Reply #63 on: April 11, 2017, 08:36:38 PM »
I'm steadily going down, which is great! I think I'm another 5 down from the last time I posted.

But I figured I'd take a glance over IIFYM (because those fuckers are so god damn ripped) and wow, do I not get enough protein for the weights I'm lifting. Or, um. Well. Anything else. I'm about 20g off on fats, 60-80 off on carbs, and the same for protein. And I ... need to get about 400-600 more calories per day. But that's hard because my birth control makes me not want to eat and I -tried- eating more today to meet my macro and caloric goals and all I got was super bloated.

Guess I better start making some chicken breast crust pizzas or something.
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« Reply #64 on: April 12, 2017, 03:03:21 AM »
Was feeling good yesterday, so I put what was previously my lifetime 1-rep max on the bench press, just to see if I could hit it again.

Knocked out 5 reps.

Then another 3.

I'm within striking distance of benching a weight that for my entire life, I've thought was probably just out of my range.  Not only benching it, but doing it for reps.  The only mildly annoying thing is that...the saying holds true.  Staying natural and keeping your metabolism anabolic unavoidably means you get a little fatter in the process.
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« Reply #65 on: April 12, 2017, 11:01:52 AM »
For strength training and overall fitness I perform best when I'm at 12-15% body fat, yeah. When I'm below 12 I'm just fast, heh.
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« Reply #66 on: April 12, 2017, 02:30:51 PM »
Since getting off of Active Duty, I'd pretty much let myself go as far as exercise goes.

In the last couple months, however, I've rediscovered the joys of working out.  I'm not up to par with what I used to be while having mandatory PT three to four times out of the week, but I'm breaking 50 push-ups per minute and working at bringing my sit-ups back up to that.  My running is still pretty awful, but I'm slowly working it back up to be under 12 minutes for a mile and a half.  I've never been the best of runners, so my goal as a civilian so to break my all-time best score while in the active military (11 minutes for a mile and a half).  So long as I can maintain 50 push-ups/sit-ups in under a minute, I'll just maintain that and really focus on my run.

Since starting up running again, I haven't really dropped a lot of pounds (thankfully, most of it's still muscle), but I went from a 37 inch waist to a 34 in the last 4 weeks.  I'm pushing to drop another 2 inches which should set me up pretty nicely for longer running sessions.  I hate feeling like I jiggle while I run.
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« Reply #67 on: April 12, 2017, 02:33:08 PM »
I fucking hate running. I'd rather just do 15-20 minutes of HIIT.
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« Reply #68 on: April 12, 2017, 02:48:10 PM »
I fucking hate running. I'd rather just do 15-20 minutes of HIIT.

I despise running.  But I'm able to trick my brain and emotions by reminding myself that no one's forcing me to do this and I can run at my own pace.  "Run for fun," in other words, and not the military definition of "fun."  It hasn't brought me back up to how well I did before being discharged, but I work out far harder than I would if I still kept the attitude of having to do it.

I'm still in my state National Guard, however.  Must maintain the same fitness standards as active duty.  I just don't have to constantly be under pressure to score above 95, if you're not scoring above 95 your a lazy scrub what's your excuse maggot becauseIdon'tcarewhatitisitstinksandyou'reafailurefornotgettingit!!!!!

Passing the test above 75 is acceptable.  You only go for the higher scores of 90 for personal growth and if you really want to look good for when a position opens up for promotion.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #69 on: April 12, 2017, 09:15:06 PM »
You also don't have boobs to strap in.

I can't really afford a $100 sports bra scientifically proven to minimize bounce. I have to like, triple wrap these puppies if I wanna not have them flopping everywhere. Plus, they weigh you down, man!

I'll just stick to like, the elliptical. And dancing. And walking. You can run extra for me. ;) <3
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #70 on: April 13, 2017, 04:06:41 PM »
"At 6pm on Tuesdays and Thursdays, I run a bootcamp class. I'm gonna see you there, right?"
"Umm. Maybe."

I think I'll try it next week. I don't know how I feel about the only male personal trainer at the Y telling me to get to his class. Is it lacking participants? Has he observed me in the weight room kicking ass the last few months and wanted me to join up? Was he bored? Was he flexing for the young kid he was training at the time and telling him to step it up because the young lady (lol yeah right, me) at the cable machine was going harder than he was?

Yeah. Next week. I'm gonna swim with the kids tonight.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #71 on: April 18, 2017, 04:23:50 AM »
110 pounds would be slightly underweight for me according to my BMI. I don't see personally how there's one type of BMI when you have men, women with no breasts and women with naturally huge knockers and butts.

I was able to fit comfortably into a tavern wench outfit to go to the renaissance fair. That thing was hard for me to fit into the last two years. I didn't really lose that much, about 14 pounds in three months. I blame part of that on the fact that my mom loves eating at this one restaurant but refuses to go alone, and there's not really any healthy options there. I kind of slacked off on the last month, for reasons I don't really recall right now. I think I was overestimating how much I needed to have; I have this abstract fear of not eating as much as I need to function. I wish I could stand treadmills; give me a real path to follow and I could walk it all day. Right now I just do 30 minute walks almost every day with the dog.
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« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2017, 09:57:44 AM »
I didn't try so hard at the gym today. I have a sunburn searing my back from yard work (it never fails -- every fucking year I forget ONCE to oil up that upper part on my back while I'm wearing a tanktop and bang), and my cycle's approaching, so I'm bloated and unhappy and my fibromyalgia is flaring up like a mother.
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« Reply #73 on: April 18, 2017, 08:53:37 PM »
My mum had that I think. They took everything out and it appears to be fixed.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #74 on: April 18, 2017, 09:56:57 PM »
My mum had that I think. They took everything out and it appears to be fixed.

Took everything out? To fix fibromyalgia?  What, did she get a lobotomy?

My guess is you're thinking of uterine fibroids--totally not the same thing.
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« Reply #75 on: April 18, 2017, 10:06:23 PM »
I'm dying of laughter. Oh my god. <3 <3 <3 Nothing against you, H. I'm just tickled.
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« Reply #76 on: April 19, 2017, 03:57:40 PM »
I skipped my cardio workout for several days, using the excuses of "it's too cold" "I'm not feeling well," etc, etc.

Today the weather is great and I'm feeling just fine so I told my excuses to shut up.  I put on my running vest and hit the streets.  Intervals of quicker running mixed with a good swift march for about 2 miles then another 2 mile march on an uphill grade back to my house.  Google maps says it was about 4.3 miles, which is just fine by me.  Doing this every other day and I should be able to shrink my waist another few inches.
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #77 on: April 19, 2017, 04:19:06 PM »
God, static state cardio is the pits, but I'm gonna run with my eldest son tonight for about 25 minutes upstairs on the little balcony that outlines the gym above at the Y before my weights (while the younger one has swim lessons) because...

Well, okay. Monday. He has soccer every Monday.

This motherfucker kept asking his coach how long they had until they would break. He kept falling all over himself, tripping over literally NOTHING. I can chalk some of that up to inherited clumsiness, but he legitimately asked his coach how much longer was left in the fourth quarter and when the coach said, "fifteen minutes Sol," my son said, "SERIOUSLY?"

I can never, ever remember being winded or miserable to the point of petitioning my coach about limiting the quarter time in soccer, even as a really young kid. I was more concerned about doing well so my dad would shut up on the sidelines.

They just don't make kids like they used to. *fist shake*
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Re: Fitness
« Reply #78 on: April 19, 2017, 05:57:34 PM »
I'm easily the least fit I've ever been. Building a respectable beer belly. Spring is here though so maybe I'll shed some fat while hiking and stop munching so much.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #79 on: April 19, 2017, 08:33:17 PM »
Well thats what she kept calling it at least, she had a hysterectomy. It could be that she got confused about it and called it the wrong thing because I never actually googled what it was.

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Re: Fitness
« Reply #80 on: April 20, 2017, 09:36:24 AM »
Yeah, that's probably fibroids. Fibromyalgia is an all-over pain, the cause is only hypothesized, and it's basically overactive nerves making you hurt. I get 'flares' where it gets worse around my lady cycle, though. It's ridiculous.

Not to worry. I'm gonna have endometriosis here before I'm 35, which is ... only 6 years ... away almost ... oh fuck...

Um. So, if I want any more kids, I'm gonna have to have them within the next few, because I'll probably have to have a full hysterectomy like 100% of the women on my mom's side of the family.

It's strange what hereditary bullshit you end up inheriting.

That being said -- I actually feel pretty good after running last night with the booba. He cried because I whooped his ass on a few laps and he said I was, "too fast," but we basically did interval training because I'd make him do sprints and then we'd walk a lap. He lasted surprisingly longer than I thought he would.

We're going again tonight, then I'm gonna do some weight lifting. I've been doing this routine: https://www.kagedmuscle.com/blogs/8-week-hardcore-trainer/overview-program
for a week now, and I like it. I have to improvise some stuff, but other than that, I've enjoyed the new exercises I've incorporated into my routine.

I really do need to do some more deadlifts and Olympic stuff like Yam told me to. I just hate how much of a brofest it is in the gym and how I'm always leered at because I'm one of the very few girls who dares go into the weight room who isn't, um, well, already with another girl, heh. (No one bothers this lesbian couple. I find myself in awe of their strength. They both do Crossfit stuff and make me look like a weakling.)
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