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OSOK

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A bit lost...
« on: January 27, 2014, 09:11:35 AM »
Hi All!  I've about 12 game hours and I'm a tad lost. I'm running into situations that, because of the RP aspect of the game, are hard to find solutions to.

I'm having issues with hunger.  I seem to always be hungry, and I don't know much I should be spending on food.  How many sids should be able to fill you up nicely from "a little hungry"?  I ask because I worry I'll have no sids left if I don't manage this properly.

Any help is greaty appreciated!
« Last Edit: January 27, 2014, 10:09:32 AM by OSOK »

catchall

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 09:31:36 AM »
Exact prices could vary depending on the part of the world you're in, but some general rules of thumb apply:

It is a LOT more expensive to "eat out" than it is to prepare your own food.  If you're buying prepared meals at the taverns, you can expect to pay a lot more than you need to.  Instead, try looking for a grocer, butcher, baker, or other merchant that can sell you ingredients.  Many of the foods you can buy can be eaten without cooking, but you will save even more money if you learn to cook. (Although you can also burn a lot of ingredients when your cooking skill is low, so try to find an easy recipe to level it up with.  Travel cakes from flour is usually a a good one if flour is readily available.)

RogueGunslinger

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2014, 09:51:49 AM »
Try doing a bit of one of the coded jobs there are in the city-states: They net enough coin for food and water.

http://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Jobs

You can also try begging, if you get really hungry. Also most of the clans and organizations in game offer free food if you join them.

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2014, 10:07:25 AM »
Any would is greaty appreciated!


Don't eat "would" it just makes you hungrier... 


if there is a grocer in your city I'd suggest going there first before buying any of the food available at the bars.  If all else fails I'd say find another PC and haggle for food with them, somebody's gotta feed the masses!
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OSOK

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2014, 10:10:56 AM »
Thanks all!  As I was waiting for replies, I actually ran into a grocer and bought some raw stuff which I ate for a pretty good price.  It went to "not hungry" and within minutes back to "a little hungry" again.

I'll start making sids.  Thank you all for the replies! Will also look into cooking as well.

Delirium

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2014, 10:24:42 AM »
As a note, you can look at your 'score' and it will tell you your exact hunger level. Even when you are get the echo 'no longer hungry' you can keep eating until you're actually full.

That will keep those pesky echoes away for a little longer!

Same thing for thirst - you can keep drinking water until you can't drink any more.
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 10:27:54 AM »
Adding to what Delirium said, the code will stop you from over eatting and drinking, so you don't have to worry about wasing food.
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 05:24:09 PM »
Shop around for cheap food options.  Sure, a burned tuber might not be appetizing, but the shop's selling it for 3 coins.... pride is for the not starving.
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 05:26:18 PM »
Type 'directions' and look for places that, in your mind, would sell you raw food instead of already prepared food, much like in real life, raw unprepared food tends to be cheaper. Look for that place in the list given and go there.

That or look for the guy who's not wearing a House cloak, decked out in awesome items you've never seen before, chances are he's an indie hunter and has a billion raw meats in his pack that he's just willing to give away for nearly nothing :) *grins, ducks and runs off*
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 05:36:20 PM »
You are going about it all wrong. Go for the big return items.

Mekillots, there are a lot of steaks on a mekillot.  ;) (Do not do this, this is a joke.)

I do recommend finding your local grebber and asking them if they have any cheap food to sell you, possibly in bulk. I remember seeing a couple of food seller PC's in my time, and all of them seemed very "fun to be around and deal with."

Aside from that, they will probably be your best option for prices too.
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OSOK

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 06:14:49 PM »
Thanks all for the replies. 

Is there any difference, nutrition wise, between cooked and uncooked foods?

Also, I'll bring this up since it's related to the subject on this thread and it has come up a few times already:  I'm having a hard time meeting people..  First, I can't tell who's an NPC and who isnt.  Added to this, it's hard to find people in general.  I'm not sure if its because of my time zone (I doubt it since im EST and play mostly in the evening) or if it's because Z is really that unpopulated.  Any tips on that?

Delirium

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 06:18:07 PM »
Cooked foods are generally more filling, and from an IC (In Character) perspective, they would be tastier and probably less likely to give you horrible stomach cramps. ;)

But if you're starving, you're starving.

On meeting people - usually taverns are your best bet.
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BleakOne

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 06:39:46 PM »
Hang around taverns at nighttime and you'll find people usually.

Some, but not all, NPCs are described as "a" something, like "a large man" whereas PCs will always be "the" something, like "the large man". Some NPCs are "the something something" as well, but it's a handy way of telling at least some of the NPCs apart.
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 07:12:28 PM »
Not sure if anyone has said so far, but most clans, if not all, provide food and water for their members free of charge. But yeah, the grocer shops are good. You can also look for PC's who are good at foraging and try and arrange some kind of deal. Usually they will be happy to provide for you.
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Yummri

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 07:27:43 PM »
A good way usually to tell if a person is a player iss they will actually look at you sometimes. That helps me a lot.

But yeah taverns are the best bet and it depends on what part of the world you are in. I would suggest trying to join one of the clans. It will solve your food problem and depending on the clan. Your rp problem to. Check the boards in taverns to see which clans are hiring or when you do find people ask them.

Clans are a great way to learn. I might of quit had I not joined a clan and got some really good help.

OSOK

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2014, 08:14:03 PM »
Im even having trouble finding recruiters!  Will stick to it though.  Thanks!!

Delirium

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2014, 08:16:34 PM »
I strongly recommend using the Helper Chat if you have more questions - we can also give you more specific advice that way. :)
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slvrmoontiger

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2014, 11:58:33 PM »
Adding to what Delirium said, the code will stop you from over eatting and drinking, so you don't have to worry about wasing food.

Hmm I wonder at what point code stops you from eating too much:

sc
You are Somone.
Keywords: All kinds of good things
Sdesc: Just some PC
Objective:
Long Description:
Code Generated Long Description.
You are xx years, x months, and xx days old,
 which by your race and appearance is something.
You are xx inches tall, and weigh x ten-stone.
Your strength is somthing, your agility is somthing,
  your wisdom is somthing, and your endurance is somthing.
You are stuffed and not thirsty.
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Delirium

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2014, 12:02:10 AM »
When you type >eat object and you get "You are too full to eat that!" or whatever the echo is.

Tasting and sipping still work if you are full/not thirsty.
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Yummri

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2014, 12:03:21 AM »
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Im even having trouble finding recruiters!  Will stick to it though.  Thanks!!

The boards in taverns will help with that.

In most taverns type <look board>
Then <read board #>

Hope that helps

Evilone

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2014, 07:50:53 AM »
Finding recruiters can be tricky at times,  even for peak players. Don't give up tho,  it can be worth the wait. It is probly better to join up with the ones you do manage to see regularly, but there won't be many in the smaller locations.

Welcome aboard though!
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slvrmoontiger

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2014, 10:45:16 AM »
When you type >eat object and you get "You are too full to eat that!" or whatever the echo is.

Tasting and sipping still work if you are full/not thirsty.

Sorry Delirium I digressed it was meant as a joke. I'm wondering if taste will allow you to go until you are bloated or even explode. Might be an interesting experiment or a new character concept in the future. Eat until you die type thing, or eat yourself to death. Anyways...


To OP:

Eating until you are full will stop the echos for a while.
Many ways to get food, even if you are poor - Do what people do in RL to get food when they are poor, beg or get a job.
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2014, 02:48:31 PM »
The most fun I've had was as a hapless beggar. Every now and then you'll meet one of those "Teach a person to fish" people (these people are your best friends). Make note of what they say and keep begging. Roll with the punches. Then, take all that knowledge, and twink up about 100k to throw in Nenyuk. Joking about the twinking, don't do that.

Though seriously, that hapless beggar ended up with some SERIOUS bank (or would have, had he not been shaken down by everyone and their mother, but that was the fun part). JUST A MONTH AGO YOU WERE BEGGING WHY ARE ALL THESE COINS IN YOUR PACK WHO DID YOU ROB/KILL/BLACKMAIL ARE YOU SMUGGLING?!? YOU PAY ME X COINS PER WEEK OR WE KEEL YOU!
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2014, 07:06:03 PM »
That's why you never let anyone know your potential wealth in the game. And never keep a lot of coins on you either. Of course I tend to keep small coins on me because of weight and other things. But still I make a rule that I only have large amount on me if I've just sold a bunch of things or if I plan on buying something that takes a lot of coins to buy.
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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2014, 11:08:54 PM »
Whats considered "a lot" of coins?

And "twinking"?

Fujikoma

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2014, 11:47:29 PM »
Well obviously if you have any coins you're outdoing poor 'ol recruit what'shername and must be punished... For twinking.

Mostly I use these terms in jest, but not everyone does. I think as long as you don't ignore room descriptions, the virtual world, and the yada yada yada like I always ignore them, you should be fine.

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #26 on: January 29, 2014, 12:50:25 AM »
Twinking means exploiting game mechanics to improve your character, usually at the expense of believable RP.

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Re: A bit lost...
« Reply #27 on: January 29, 2014, 02:24:41 AM »
Twinkery is what yoink said, and usually involves acting like someone made out of hitpoints instead of a real person. Sparring for days without emoting or performing other activities, strip-hunting swathes of land for no reason other than to build your skills and such.

That's not to say you can't RP as a person with ambition to be a great warrior or hunter, just go about it reasonably.

As for coins, it depends. Most of the population are very poor, and live from hand to mouth such that they make enough to live, but no savings and miss meals regularly. PCs tend to be more wealthy since they do high-risk high-reward things like salting, going after giant insects to kill and such.

For a commoner, I'd consider 2000 or more coins 'a lot', but there's nothing wrong with a lot. 20,000 or more for a commoner would be rare. Vast wealth can be obtained in a legit and non-twinky manner, it's just pretty damn hard, from my experience. 
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