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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1150 on: January 14, 2013, 06:41:31 PM »
With 1.09 you're lucky if you can have nine holds in your demesne. This is with a Midas Touched noble.

What you want is weak and divided vassals. More of them the better.

Do you have the Legacy of Rome DLC? With faction gameplay it makes it harder for your vassals to pose a threat unless they can all unit against you.
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Zoan

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1151 on: January 14, 2013, 07:53:39 PM »
Steam hasn't updated with the patch and DLC yet I think. Can anyone confirm this isn't the case and I am just retarded?
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Wolfsong

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1152 on: January 14, 2013, 07:57:38 PM »
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1153 on: January 14, 2013, 07:58:48 PM »
My Republics impression. After a few hours of play.

I picked Venice and the family which had a Doge installed there. The first thing I noticed is that I could create the Dutchy of Venice but was worried that would suddenly make me a Duke and turn Venice feudal.

I honestly have no clue how to play this expansion. I started littering the counties near Venice with trade posts. I would get a bonus for being near the capital as well as a bonus for the trade zone (since Venice had more trade posts there than any of the other Republics). I ended up making 50+ gold a month like that.

Then I went into the intrigue window and wanted to see what was available. Turns out as Doge I have the ability to seize trade posts of other families in Venice. I think the only requirement is that I have a trade post within the same trade zone as them.

Seizing is pretty easy. Anything over 150% plot power with 3 backers guarantees it. With less plot power you end up in a bidding war where you can spend hundreds of gold to seize the trade post.

Turns out the King of Croatia really didn't like me. He burned down one of my trade posts. This pissed me off, so I decided to seize one of his coastal cities. A few hundred gold sunk into some mercenaries and I got the city.

Now what though? I'm pretty sure he can still burn down the trade post in the same county, and the city does not generate more gold than a trade post. Like I said, I still don't understand all the mechanics.

Going to try again, maybe this time as Doge I'll focus on building up Venice, and just seize trade posts where I find them.

Unlike Feudal lords you spend a lot of time just making and spending money.

EDIT2: OK, so what I should do is declare a second war to get the whole county once I have a city there. Just reading up on the dev diaries.

« Last Edit: January 14, 2013, 08:07:27 PM by janeshephard »
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1154 on: January 14, 2013, 08:01:32 PM »
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.

If you read my earlier post you can buy the Steam keys from a third party website. It's totally legit.

1.09 already hit steam. You just need the keys for Republics and the two media DLCs if you want to buy them too.
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lordcooper

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1155 on: January 14, 2013, 08:04:53 PM »
GMG sold out a couple of hours ago :-\
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Wolfsong

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1156 on: January 14, 2013, 08:21:37 PM »
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Pale Horse

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1157 on: January 14, 2013, 08:26:04 PM »
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.

http://www.pcgamestore.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-republic

Buy it.  You'll get a game code after buying that will let you activate "The Republic " on Steam.

Edit: There are bugs.  Don't try creating a Custom Ruler with "Ruler Designer" in Gotland (the Swedish Republic).  You'll get in and immediately die, every time.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2013, 08:28:13 PM by Pale Horse »
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lordcooper

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1158 on: January 14, 2013, 08:27:49 PM »
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.

http://www.pcgamestore.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-republic

Buy it.  You'll get a game code after buying that will let you activate "The Republic " on Steam.

Don't buy it.  I've read in multiple places that they've been giving out duplicate keys for the last hour or so.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1159 on: January 14, 2013, 09:18:06 PM »
Just went into a war with Pisa over a trade post which would have linked my holy conquest trade posts back to Venice and I lost.

Damn!

Micromanaging all the trade posts gets unwieldly. I'd really like a way to issue build orders over multiple holdings.

EDIT: I WILL COMPLETELY WRECK YOUR DYNASTY IF YOU FUCK WITH MY TRADE POSTS. DON'T FUCK WITH MY TRADE POSTS.

:)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2013, 09:33:17 PM by janeshephard »
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Zoan

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1160 on: January 14, 2013, 09:37:56 PM »
God, you scare me.


Marry me.
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boog

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1161 on: January 15, 2013, 12:06:55 AM »
gdit, CK2 better not go on sale while I'm birthing my child.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1162 on: January 15, 2013, 01:57:04 AM »
Benghazi won't stop rebelling. It's costing more in mercenary wages to keep the peasants down than what my trade post there makes in a year. Not cost effective.

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lordcooper

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1163 on: January 15, 2013, 02:03:45 AM »
Got a copy through Gamestop.  I have no idea what I'm doing.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1164 on: January 15, 2013, 02:10:17 AM »
Quick tips:

* As Doge you can steal trade posts belonging to other families in your republic if you have an adjacent trade post. You do this through the plots interface. Do yourself a favor and excommunicate the head of the family before to make it cheaper or expect to spend a lot of gold in a bidding war (500g in some cases).

* As a Patrician you can declare war on anyone for a coastal city. You can then declare war again for the entire county. Owning your own coastal counties means you can setup a trade post and not worry about the locals burning it down and looting it. You can also use Holy Wars like any other noble.

* The more trade posts you have in a trade zone, the larger bonus you get. The patrician with the most trade posts in a zone owns that zone (which I believe confers a higher bonus). I think that bonus works for anyone in your republic but I haven't taken a look at the stats yet.

* There's a "connected to capital" bonus on trade posts but I don't think its working properly.

* Upgrade trade posts which are in counties you or your vassals control for even more gold income.

* Make use of your chancellor to improve diplomatic relations with nobles whom you setup trade posts under. Kings, and Emperors usually since they're at the top and make Embargo decisions.

* Invite debutantes and marry them to your family instead of pay large dowries for noble marriages.
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lordcooper

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1165 on: January 15, 2013, 03:42:55 AM »
Thanks for the tips!  Trade zone = watery bit, right?  Does it matter if they're in a continuous line or anything?
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1166 on: January 15, 2013, 09:19:30 AM »
Yes watery bit.

I think it does matter but the "connected to capital" bonus doesn't seem to work if they're all connected. I'm still waiting for the wikis to get updated by people who go through the rule files.
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lordcooper

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1167 on: January 15, 2013, 09:37:56 AM »
Starting to get the hang of things a bit now, but I'm still unsure if my efforts are better spent on gaining territory for my republic or stealing it from the other members.  The latter seems more profitable, but that's all kinds of unintuitive.  There also seems to be a weird bug where trade zones don't seem to register as belonging to your republic if you have the same amount of trade posts as another member.

I am loving the emphasis on money though.  It's pretty neat being able to afford so many mercs at the drop of a hat.  Does anyone know if the bride price works the same when you're a noble?  Setting up some baby factories could be amazingly profitable if it does.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1168 on: January 15, 2013, 09:57:06 AM »
The bride price is likely like that. The game has been rebalanced to make mercenaries more relevant for both nobles and patricians.

Remember though, if you marry your daughters off to low borns it will give their successors weak claims which can be pressed in a succession crisis.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1169 on: January 15, 2013, 07:08:03 PM »
LC,

I'm starting to think Paradox dropped the ball with his expansion.

Are you having fun with it? I'm loathe to start a new game.
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Zoan

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1170 on: January 15, 2013, 08:56:46 PM »
I am so confused at this expac.
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Malken

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1171 on: January 15, 2013, 09:24:48 PM »
Man, you guys just can't stop talking about that overly complicated medieval incest sim!

While I was internet-less in the last few weeks, I must have scored at least 1000 hours on Mount & Blade: Warband - Prophesy of Pendor.
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janeshephard

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1172 on: January 15, 2013, 09:59:11 PM »
Man, you guys just can't stop talking about that overly complicated medieval incest sim!

While I was internet-less in the last few weeks, I must have scored at least 1000 hours on Mount & Blade: Warband - Prophesy of Pendor.

Never played that mod, but fathom me this: why is it the second you go to the options in Warband and set the incoming damage to 1/1 for your character as opposed to 1/4 or 1/5 of damage, you suddenly get one shotted in the initial charge?

What I'm trying to say is, in order to survive a battle the game treats your character to special magical armor.

At least my medieval incest sim doesn't cheat :)
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Malken

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1173 on: January 15, 2013, 10:15:18 PM »
Never played that mod, but fathom me this: why is it the second you go to the options in Warband and set the incoming damage to 1/1 for your character as opposed to 1/4 or 1/5 of damage, you suddenly get one shotted in the initial charge?

What I'm trying to say is, in order to survive a battle the game treats your character to special magical armor.

At least my medieval incest sim doesn't cheat :)


I'm not sure what you mean, if you set it to 1/1 then you have to expect full realism of wounds, and charging into a bunch of people with firearms and bows will probably do that to you irl.. Starting it with 1/4 is to actually give new players a chance to survive the intro, yeah :) It's not so bad when your army is in the 70+ if you're not the first guy charging toward archers and musketeers.

But to be honest, the game is pretty crap if you play it vanilla, not going to lie. The game has some awesome mods, like the one I mentioned, and gives you a much better single player storyline, troop balance and such.
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The people scattered gold-dust before my horse’s feet;
But now I am a great king, the people hound my track
With poison in my wine-cup, and daggers at my back.”

Pale Horse

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Re: Game Discussion Thread
« Reply #1174 on: January 15, 2013, 11:13:50 PM »
Not really a fan of "The Republic."  Interesting mechanics and what not, but it didn't really add anything to the overall game.

I'm playing feudal until my favorite mods update.

So far, on a new game, I managed to unite Ireland through marriage and conquest..but my only son died from sickness, leaving me with daughters.  I took a wife in my middle age, figuring that I was safe.

Wrong.  And of course, my only child was a boy.  And of course I then died from the first sickness I catch at age 52, leaving a babe-king not yet even a year old.

The blood of Irishmen is thick on the land from what is now 32 years of near-constant civil wars.  The new King, during a time of peace, joined the 2nd Crusade for the Holy Land and did what his father could not: Became King of Jerusalem.  In the mean time, he has to constantly fight off wars for changes in law and factions that insist on trying to prop-up his eldest sister as a puppet Queen of Ireland.  The poor woman is tougher than she looks and has the soul of a saint (seriously.  She's humble, chaste, kind, charitable, gregarious, content and shy).  She cheerfully mentored me as a child and youth and holds zero ill-will against me, despite the frequent trips to my dungeon (usually for something less than a day's stay) due to me putting down, executing or banishing all those who keep trying to use her as a figurehead.

Prideful nobles!  Leave the poor woman in peace in her old age!  She's survived the death of both her husbands and all her children and grandchildren save two, who I've set up as minor kings in Jerusalem for being the only ones of my noble kindred who have remained loyal to me throughout all my wars.

Apparently, I haven't learned a thing about succession wars despite my life-long experience with the after-effects of my own kingly-investiture.  You see, I married a grand-princess of the Byzantine Empire.  I married her for her brains (genius trait) but she turned out to be a fine looking woman with a golden tongue (high personal diplomacy and intrigue) but still holds a strong claim to the Byzantine Throne and has something of a temper and enjoys inflicting pain (impaler, wroth and cruel).

We have 6 sons..and one daughter, aged 2 months.  The first child is the only genius out of the lot, so if he isn't wise enough to start killing off his younger brothers when he comes of age, I may just have to pull out my murder-knife and start practicing eugenics.

..if I can survive the thrice-yearly assassination attempts and de-populate half the noble houses in Ireland.

This nice guy (charitable, kind and humble.  My sister taught me well) is going to finish anything but last.
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