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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2009, 02:27:27 PM »
LIRAPETS. Those are what I was trying to remember.

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2009, 02:33:00 PM »
LIRAPETS. Those are what I was trying to remember.

What the fuck is that? Is it too IC to get a generic mdesc from one posted?
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2009, 06:54:11 PM »
Lirapets?

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2009, 07:53:27 PM »
I don't claim to be an expert in optics, but I thought the earliest lenses were made by ancient civilizations IRL without glass, but they were huge (like, too big to fit over your eye huge). We only managed to get it down to eye size hundreds of years later. It's entirely plausible that large lenses exist, but not ones that would be sunslit or monocle-sized.

Yes, you are correct.  Zalanthans should be able to make lenses, at least Cenyri and Kadian glassworkers. 
They have the skill, they would only need to come up with the 'idea' or stumbled upon the properties of a lens by accident.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2009, 08:45:47 PM »
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2009, 12:33:01 AM »
There were lensed items. Now there are not. This includes goggles, monocles, spectacles, and yes, sunslits.

Unconfirmed, but I'd imagine that also extends to spyglasses.

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2009, 01:52:13 AM »
There's a specific Tuluki variant with a wacky name.

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2009, 04:11:34 AM »
There were lensed items. Now there are not. This includes goggles, monocles, spectacles, and yes, sunslits.

Unconfirmed, but I'd imagine that also extends to spyglasses.

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2012, 02:58:35 PM »
So way back when this thread started with...

Some weapons are just hard to visualize. You see the "stabbing" or "slashing" or whatever, but even though there's a worded description, it might not make something easy to visualize if the weapon is unfamiliar. I think that an Article that shows pictures of the sorts of weapons, and possibly says how they were used back here on good ol' earth, could be helpful.

Here's what I've found so far for things that might be included:

(note that none of these should be "SEKKRET ITEMS OF DOOM", and are intented just to reflect things that might be found in a shop in either of the city-states IGly)

jambiya, gythka staff, chakram, voulge, truncheon, kirisigi dagger, and I'm sure there's more.

Any suggestions? Comments? Ideas?

...and I think trying to get visuals for all our obscure weapons is still a good idea. I'd like to revive this thread.

I know for the following some pictures have been posted, but right now I'm just trying to see if there are any gaps in the list. Is there anything that you would  add?

  • boline (sp?)
  • carrikal
  • cestus
  • chakram
  • chatkcha
  • gythka staff
  • hawkblade
  • jambiya
  • katar
  • khopesh sword
  • kirisigi dagger
  • lirapet
  • lotilus
  • truncheon
  • voulge
  • yagathan (sp?)
  • zerka

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2012, 03:10:25 PM »
Boline - I think that's the spelling.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2012, 03:13:23 PM »
Boline - I think that's the spelling.

Added.  :)
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2012, 03:14:17 PM »
I've definitely found myself wondering just what a hawkblade is supposed to look like and how big they are. GIS suggests a dagger with a blade swept forward (like a raptor's claw, but less pronounced) but I'm really not sure that entirely jives with the item descs I've read.

Many of the weapons on that list can be found on Wikipedia which will give you a picture and a bit of a cultural background. Jambiya's are wide-bladed Arab knives (meant for cutting, not thrusting), yatagans are Turkish saber swords, khopesh are sickle swords . . . I imagine the more exotically named weapons have parallels in South Asia or Africa (i.e the katar(a)). What would be needed to make a useful resource for visualizing these exotic weapons? Simple line art to suggest the basic shape? I'd also be happy to spend some of my idle time digging up links to weapon pages on Wikipedia.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2012, 03:19:44 PM »
I've definitely found myself wondering just what a hawkblade is supposed to look like and how big they are.

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What would be needed to make a useful resource for visualizing these exotic weapons? Simple line art to suggest the basic shape? I'd also be happy to spend some of my idle time digging up links to weapon pages on Wikipedia.

I'm considering drawing it. I imagine something like the D&D chart (see blow) would work well. If you'd like to look up Wikipedia links, that would be welcomed  :). There have also been some posts here already that detail what the weapons look like. It's my hope I can dig up some sdescs/mdescs in my logfiles for some of these weapons as well, for reference when I draw them.

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2012, 03:22:25 PM »
You already had hawkblade on the list.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2012, 03:23:44 PM »
You already had hawkblade on the list.

Well, I feel silly. Thank you. There is now only one.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2012, 06:39:07 AM »
I always imagined those chakrams as bone versions of Xena's one.

Ehehehehe... Xena.  :D
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #41 on: June 03, 2012, 02:43:55 AM »
Found this page while looking up lotilus. It's in there, along with a zerka and gythka.

http://webhome.idirect.com/~rpblack/ds/dsweap.htm

I'm a little hamstrung by not knowing the ldesc of a lot of Armageddon weapons, so I just have to guess on whether they match the images I'm finding.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #42 on: June 03, 2012, 12:47:10 PM »
Weapons List

Boline
Carrikal
Cestus
Chakram
Chatkcha
Gythka staff
Hawkblade
  • ???
Jambiya
Katar
Khopesh
Kirisigi Dagger
  • ???
Lirapet
  • ???
Lotilus
Truncheon
Voulge
Yagathan (Yatagan?)
Zerka




Other Assorted Pictures






1. Dragon Paw
2. Trikal
3. Carrikal: This axe has two forward-facing blades carved from the front of a large jawbone, commonly that of a mekillot.
4. Chatkcha: This throwing wedge, often shaped from crystal or obsidian, is a thri-kreen invention. It returns to a proficient wielder’s hand after the ranged attack is resolved.
5. Wrist Razors
6. Cahulaks.
7. Alhulak
8. Gouge
9. Dejada
10. Tortoise Blade
11. Lotulis: This short-staffed double weapon sports outward-pointing, barbed crescent blades on each end.
12. Gythka
Gauntlet Axe
Talid: Made from leather, chitin, and bone, this spiked “gladiator’s gauntlet” augments unarmed attacks. A talid can be enchanted as either a hands slot item or as a magic weapon. When enchanted as a magic weapon. When enchanted as a magic weapon, it does not occupy a character’s hands slot.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #43 on: June 03, 2012, 01:07:19 PM »
Pretty sure the kirisigi is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kris
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #44 on: June 03, 2012, 01:18:22 PM »
Stiletto knives....

And then I sat there going "really? that was it? that's so stupid."

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #45 on: June 03, 2012, 03:04:12 PM »
Awesome thread. Two thumbs up. I had no idea what half these weapons looked like.
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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #46 on: June 03, 2012, 03:08:32 PM »
I always imagined hawkblades looking like the "L"-shaped swords the Urukai used in Lotr. I could be wrong.


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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #47 on: June 03, 2012, 03:12:35 PM »
I always imagined hawkblades looking like the "L"-shaped swords the Urukai used in Lotr. I could be wrong.



This is how I envisioned them too. I was just about to look for this picture when I scrolled down and saw this.

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #48 on: June 03, 2012, 03:13:13 PM »

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Re: Discussion: Weapons "Article" Idea
« Reply #49 on: June 03, 2012, 03:40:18 PM »
I've come to picture a hawkblade as a kilij, which is apparently some type of turkish scimitar.