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Title: Lag?
Post by: Krath on June 18, 2004, 05:13:48 PM
Has anyone else been more lagged as of late?
Title: Lag?
Post by: blacksheep on June 18, 2004, 06:41:49 PM
Not really, every once in a while there'll be a bit of lag that lasts maybe 2 or 3 minutes, but that's it. There's a forum topic not too long ago about lag. You should be able to find it.

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Title: lag
Post by: sjanimal on June 19, 2004, 03:26:31 PM
My lag is not too bad, but then I'm using a reasonably fast box linked to a T1 connection, and I play at off peak hours.  

Surprisingly, even all the spyware on my computer doesn't seem to interfere that much.  Stupid spyware!
Title: Lag?
Post by: ashjpd on June 19, 2004, 05:34:51 PM
Yeah, I seem to lag now and then also, think it has something to do with some change the staff made or added. *shrug*
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: touringCompl3t3 on August 31, 2008, 07:04:44 PM
Lag seems to have gotten even worse?  It's kind of restricting my ability to play.  I got dropped to five hit points the other day and barely managed to reconnect in time, during a situation which normally wouldn't have been much of a challenge.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Archbaron on August 31, 2008, 07:19:52 PM
Quote from: touringCompl3t3 on August 31, 2008, 07:04:44 PM
Lag seems to have gotten even worse?  It's kind of restricting my ability to play.  I got dropped to five hit points the other day and barely managed to reconnect in time, during a situation which normally wouldn't have been much of a challenge.
You nilazi'd an old thread. Try here (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,32156.msg376883.html).
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on April 30, 2013, 08:01:51 PM
All day today. Is it me, or the game?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on April 30, 2013, 08:03:22 PM
Quote from: Barzalene on April 30, 2013, 08:01:51 PM
All day today. Is it me, or the game?

All day here too. Its not net lag, my ping is fine and doesn't seem to budge, but its like the server is taking extra time to process stuff. Combat seems MUCH slower to me, and sometimes 3-4 things come through in one prompt.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on April 30, 2013, 08:06:21 PM
It's hitting me too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Malken on April 30, 2013, 08:08:32 PM
Yeah, sluggish would be a good way to describe it.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on April 30, 2013, 08:18:05 PM
Yep, that seems right.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 30, 2013, 08:28:40 PM
Affecting me as well.  I thought it was my room mate leeching off my wireless again.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on April 30, 2013, 08:29:58 PM
Yeah it's been pretty brutal today.

Edit:  They just broadcast an imminent reboot to try to address it.  *crossing fingers*
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on April 30, 2013, 08:44:29 PM
It seems to be fixed now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on April 30, 2013, 09:35:09 PM
It was much better. But now I'm getting a delay again. I think. Maybe I'm just impatient.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on April 30, 2013, 09:38:41 PM
Never mind :) Seems fine.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: solera on May 01, 2013, 04:20:53 AM
For a moment I  pricked my ears up.
These necro  threads!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: KankWhisperer on May 03, 2013, 12:14:11 AM
I think I notice some more lag when there is 50+ ppl.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: i can haz mantis on May 03, 2013, 01:02:16 AM
It was laggy all day for me, regardless of how many people were on.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on May 03, 2013, 01:19:09 AM
yeah it was laggy all day but it was definitely the worst when we were at 70+ players a bit ago, it has somewhat lessened since.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 03, 2013, 02:38:45 AM
Seems I'm getting some every 3-4 seconds, where it skips for about a second and a half.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Dakota on May 03, 2013, 07:50:15 AM
It's def laggy here in Europe.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Inks on May 03, 2013, 07:56:35 AM
Laggy in Australia too, way slower than usual. For me, anyways.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on May 03, 2013, 08:10:00 AM
It was pretty rough last night too; if I was playing a "hunter" type character, I totally wouldn't have gone hunting.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on May 03, 2013, 10:26:35 AM
Lag here in Texas too.

Getting a spike that lasts three or four seconds every five seconds or so.

Playing any sort of combat role would be....iffy.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on May 03, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
Same here all the way in Holland.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on May 03, 2013, 10:31:40 AM
I'm experiencing higher than normal lag, as well.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on May 03, 2013, 01:21:13 PM
regardless of how many players are on. Lag with 20ish on, lag with 40ish on too. And at multiple times yesterday and earlier this morning.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Incognito on May 03, 2013, 01:40:07 PM
Definitely lagging a LOT in game.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: DustMight on May 03, 2013, 01:41:30 PM
Agreed with lag posts.  Pretty rough right now.
Like unplayable rough.

11    20 ms    20 ms    21 ms  xe-0-3-0.cr2.lga5.us.above.net [64.125.21.82]
12    20 ms    20 ms    20 ms  xe-0-0-1.mpr2.ewr2.us.above.net [64.125.31.173]

13   200 ms    46 ms   199 ms  208.184.34.234.IPYX-069067-ZYO.above.net [208.184.34.234]

14    20 ms    19 ms    20 ms  openvz1.trouble-free.net [69.10.46.218]
15    20 ms    19 ms    20 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [209.159.155.76]
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on May 03, 2013, 01:42:39 PM
The interesting thing is, as I'm playing a combat role, is that combat seems unaffected. I mean, yes, there is still lag, and if you get railed by a vicious strike, you're going to flee. Its server lag, not latency, so you get away without much problem.

But its very annoying, when suddenly 4 people work of says/tells/emotes comes through on one prompt.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on May 03, 2013, 02:25:08 PM
I'm getting server lag, net lag, and (I think) my comp is being slow, too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on May 03, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
Really brutal right now.  Entered an emote and took a good 8-10 seconds to echo it.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on May 03, 2013, 02:34:17 PM
Quote from: jcortrig on May 03, 2013, 02:28:27 PM
Really brutal right now.  Entered an emote and took a good 8-10 seconds to echo it.

Same.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Bogre on May 03, 2013, 03:00:53 PM
Am getting spikes as well.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on May 03, 2013, 10:05:38 PM
I sure hope this lag doesn't make us lose any of our new hard earned players. I made it through mandatory Saturday down times, and this is making me not want to play. Gah.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on May 03, 2013, 10:16:14 PM
Is it time to speculate as to causes? Are we getting a spike of new players from someplace far away from the server?

If so, can it be overcome with a better server? Is it time to ask for donations? Don't be afraid to ask, I would throw $20 on my favorite game in a heartbeat. JUST GIVE ME THE WORD STAFF BAWWWW
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 03, 2013, 10:19:55 PM
I highly doubt this is caused by the new influx of players. There aren't THAT many more. 4-6 extra players on at a time shouldn't change it. I also don't think it has much to do with the amount of total players online, just a steady progression of lag from a reboot till now.

The last reboot happened right around peak time, and then it took till the next day around that time to get really bad again, making it seem like it's from many players online.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on May 03, 2013, 10:23:55 PM
I'm still going with a memory leak or added code.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on May 03, 2013, 10:24:07 PM
The last reboot was on... Wednesday evening?  The lag didn't seem bad until this morning, for me.  I'm not even bothering to try playing right now, just makes me frustrated.  Praying to the reboot gods, as well as Morgenes and Co. to track down the underlying problem.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Maso on May 03, 2013, 11:53:32 PM
Oh gawd, it's so bad. :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 04, 2013, 12:45:25 AM
I bet it's Gith, breeding at an enormous rate. Ginka can't handle so many npc's spawning in every hour, until a reset reverts back to when there were fewer.

Our only option, as it seems our overlords the staff have abandoned us, is to march into the Tablelands and exterminate the problem once and for all. Don't worry, as someone else said, the lag WONT affect your combat at all. TRUST me.

See you down there, warriors.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: X-D on May 04, 2013, 02:30:56 AM
I feel like I went back in time and am playing in 92 again....In the time I posted this my PC managed to walk about 7 rooms...Yup, that is 92 all over.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evil_erdlu on May 04, 2013, 05:31:43 AM
I was thinking it was my connection.. I am forced to using the modem of my GSM provider because I'm forced to be in the field. (In a car with working air conditioning, thank God)

It was strange because pings are responded lightning fast, I never lose connection but ginka simply is... too slow.

If it's not me, it'll be fixed... good.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on May 04, 2013, 12:23:56 PM
Quote from: X-D on May 04, 2013, 02:30:56 AM
I feel like I went back in time and am playing in 92 again....In the time I posted this my PC managed to walk about 7 rooms...Yup, that is 92 all over.

Yup. Totally agreed. (TBH, I remember trying to play when it was worse than this)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on May 04, 2013, 12:26:48 PM
As long as the server is so laggy, I hope morg gets a chance to look at it and try to find out the cause...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fnord on May 04, 2013, 01:51:15 PM
Reporting in with lag in SW USA.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on May 04, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
It's definitely server-side and not ping related, we've established that. Does anyone else notice that it comes and goes in waves, where the delay goes from tolerable (1-2 seconds) to bad for periods (5-7s of delay), over time?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 04, 2013, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Harmless on May 04, 2013, 03:09:03 PM
It's definitely server-side and not ping related, we've established that. Does anyone else notice that it comes and goes in waves, where the delay goes from tolerable (1-2 seconds) to bad for periods (5-7s of delay), over time?

Yeah, sometimes it gets better for a bit, then get's much worse.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: solera on May 04, 2013, 03:36:08 PM
Feeling good.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 04, 2013, 03:37:59 PM
Quote from: solera on May 04, 2013, 03:36:08 PM
Feeling good.

Edit: There was a reboot. Lag is back to being bearable, still there.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on May 04, 2013, 03:41:52 PM
Still getting a delay.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 04, 2013, 03:44:32 PM
And the Gith mating cycle begins again.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on May 04, 2013, 04:23:15 PM
Actually, I don't perceive a delay any more. :)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Malken on May 04, 2013, 04:24:17 PM
It almost seems like the opposite now heheh, that's like smoother and faster than I ever remembered it.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 04, 2013, 04:31:41 PM
I have a small bit of lag. But compared to the last few days? I'll live with it until our code monkeys....I mean....Wonderful Staff..get back from family commitments.

:)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 04, 2013, 06:35:15 PM
I was just wondering... The lag was fixed for a while after the reboot today.  After more than 30 people were logged in the lag came back.  If this is a coding problem, it would probably happen all the time regardless of how many people are logged on, unless the code hasn't been optimized. It would seem more like a bandwidth problem. Has anyone checked into Server Bandwidth and maybe upstream hops either unprioritizing telnet packets or any other possibilities?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on May 04, 2013, 07:13:14 PM
I think we've established that it isn't network lag pretty conclusively so all the talk about upstream packets and whatnot is not correct.  The actual game itself is lagging. 

There are a lot of ways that performance can degrade over time, the most obvious is a memory leak of some kind.  It could also be a configuration problem with the server itself, unrelated to the game.  I'm logged in right now and I would not say the game is laggy -- it feels fine.  If they just keep rebooting once a day, we'll be okay in the short term until the coders can figure out what is going on.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 04, 2013, 07:53:40 PM
Right now the lag is intermittent. I've been logged in for a little while now and have noticed lag intermittently.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Malifaxis on May 04, 2013, 10:32:00 PM
Pretty sure that it's because I came back.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on May 04, 2013, 11:43:25 PM
When Malifaxis played regularly, everyone had to ride uphill in both directions, through twenty-foot-deep dunes of loose sand in gusts of wind that blinded us for fifty leagues in all directions. And we did this on erdlus, that had to rest every 10 rooms for at least an hour. And the lag was so bad, that it would take two hours just to get those 10 rooms away.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: musashi on May 05, 2013, 12:16:41 AM
Both ways.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 05, 2013, 02:55:00 AM
Ok here are some things that I've noticed. Perhaps they will be helpful in the coders diagnosing the problem:

1) Lag seems to happen at the most incovient times..
   a) Fighting, wether sparring or on prey.
   b) When auto-walking for example I know how I need to go to get from point a to point b I just enter it all in.
   c) Using Way...

I was riding following someone they were riding fast, as we all know inixes are pretty quick (obviously not as quick as erdlu's, but quicker than other mounts). I was trying to contact someone on the ride... I contacted someone... I didn't see anything show up... I contacted them again still nothing... Did this once more... Had to sheath my weapons...  Contacted them again still nothing (no fail or succeed note)... Talked some more... Showed up at the place we were going... Then I got all these messages saying I contacted them... No I can't contact this person because I'm already contacted to someone else... Mind you all of the other stuff talking to the person I was following, sheathing my weapons, etc happened pretty much live time...

Maybe this will be helpful, maybe not...  I just know from being a support person I like too much information over too little.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: DustMight on May 05, 2013, 06:02:32 PM
You don't autowalk.
Friends don't let friends autowalk.
Enemies find autowalkers and...well.  Find out IC.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 05, 2013, 07:01:38 PM
Certain commands can't be done while you're in middle of walking. So if you're following someone who's going fast enough, you won't be able to get certain commands in. Commands that involve speaking, emoting, or observing things will still work.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 05, 2013, 09:33:32 PM
It seems to be effecting different players. Some people are complaining of crippling lag with ooc, in the same room as me when i have none.

Not sure if this helps figure out the problem, but I thought it couldn't hurt.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on May 06, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
Hello all, semi-long-time-on-and-off player and board lurker, first time forums user.

Just wanted to add my two 'sids here: I was experiencing crippling lag earlier, until I switched from the website's client to a client of my own, after which I had 0 problems. Not sure if this will help anyone else or the staff at work fixing the issue, but I figured I'd throw it out there anyway!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on May 06, 2013, 02:42:05 PM
The lag, she is back.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Narf on May 06, 2013, 03:25:41 PM
Quote from: FreeRangeVestric on May 06, 2013, 01:58:46 AM
Hello all, semi-long-time-on-and-off player and board lurker, first time forums user.

Just wanted to add my two 'sids here: I was experiencing crippling lag earlier, until I switched from the website's client to a client of my own, after which I had 0 problems. Not sure if this will help anyone else or the staff at work fixing the issue, but I figured I'd throw it out there anyway!

I'm guessing it was coincidence. I use my own client and I had no problems yesterday, and pretty bad ones today.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Adhira on May 06, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
I've been on for a few hours and had no lag at all.  Others are having lag?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 06, 2013, 04:19:57 PM
Quote from: Adhira on May 06, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
I've been on for a few hours and had no lag at all.  Others are having lag?

I'm just now starting to get some decent lag. But it comes and goes.

As I said earlier, it might have something to do with where you live IRL. As I was having no lag, and people I was RPing with were having lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on May 06, 2013, 04:29:53 PM
Its been intermittent. Its still there, but not as bad as a few days ago.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: InsertCleverNameHere on May 06, 2013, 04:31:41 PM
Yes, few pretty big spikes just about now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on May 06, 2013, 05:42:31 PM
Quote from: Adhira on May 06, 2013, 04:15:56 PM
I've been on for a few hours and had no lag at all.  Others are having lag?

Seems like I'm getting it intermittently.  Still not as bad as it was friday prior to the reboot (unplayable).
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Adhira on May 06, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
Rebooting the game now, hopefully this will help a little.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: jcortrig on May 06, 2013, 06:42:03 PM
Quote from: Adhira on May 06, 2013, 05:58:00 PM
Rebooting the game now, hopefully this will help a little.

It's definitely better.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on May 07, 2013, 09:48:08 PM
Is the lag bad again, or is it just me?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BleakOne on May 07, 2013, 09:49:35 PM
Seems to be irregular for me. Most times it's fine, sometimes a bit... gloopy but not unplayable.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 07, 2013, 10:37:24 PM
Lag is really bad again... Almost got killed... I'm not hunting anymore until the lag has been cleaned up... This is bad because my character hates to sit around bored in the city.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 07, 2013, 10:39:40 PM
If you almost got killed in -this- you probably shouldn't be hunting that thing. :P


I wouldn't call the lag really bad. It's there, definitely, but not unplayable. A 5-6 sec lag every 15 minutes or so.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Refugee on May 07, 2013, 10:45:31 PM
It's just bad enough to make you feel uneasy in tense situations, but it's not very bad at all.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 07, 2013, 11:35:06 PM
I wish it was a 5 to 6 second lag every 15 minutes...  Mine actually only lags when I'm doing something important... Like walking, fighting, getting something out of a container of some sort... When I'm just sitting around chatting everything is fine...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Maso on May 08, 2013, 10:04:32 PM
I am still getting it preeetty bad. :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on May 08, 2013, 11:35:17 PM
Same.  Holding off on logging in tonight.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Calavera on May 09, 2013, 05:17:57 AM
The lag seems gone for now and I'll keep an eye on things overnight to see if that remains the case.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 09, 2013, 06:47:56 PM
Seems pretty laggy right now just walking around.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 09, 2013, 07:00:23 PM
I think I'm still noticing it too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 09, 2013, 07:15:03 PM
Like I said it tends to get worse when more people are on. I suspect at 5:45 am on a Thursday morning there weren't too many on.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Wug on May 09, 2013, 07:28:05 PM
There might still be a few... bugs... in the system.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Delirium on May 09, 2013, 08:32:57 PM
Damned Kryl.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: TheBadSeed on May 10, 2013, 01:27:51 AM
Kanks. It's the year the Kank makes a come back. Unless the bug is squashed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: najdorf on May 10, 2013, 11:46:54 AM
Hi, I am getting disconnected in every 2-5 minutes plus having some lag. I figured it might be because of my own issues but my internet seems to be working. Is there any technical guy here that can help me figure what might be the problem? When I called my ISP, they said my internet is working :(

EDIT: I also tried using my cell-phone's 3G and same lag there too. So it's not only my ISP but the telcom operator's internet service too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on May 10, 2013, 12:19:35 PM
You could traceroute to the game and see where the holdup might be.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: najdorf on May 10, 2013, 12:30:25 PM
Quote from: Nyr on May 10, 2013, 12:19:35 PM
You could traceroute to the game and see where the holdup might be.

Can you tell me if there is a problem below please?

(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/99389233898661c48abab5d97b986a9c/tracert.png)

6th line still in my country, that I know for sure (Turkey)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 10, 2013, 12:35:04 PM
Are you wireless? Maybe you're getting interference from other devices?


Possibly someone could be leeching off your internet too, if it's not secured.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Potaje on May 10, 2013, 12:51:49 PM
I've been getting a really bag lag too, and I'm jacked right in, not wireless. Starting to be like to old days.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on May 10, 2013, 12:53:59 PM
Well if I were you I'd look at the 5th hop and do this a few more times, even pinging it directly if possible.  It missed a ping entirely and then the next one was 480 ms.  That's pretty high.  If you consistently get those results with that hop then you might be seeing where the issue is.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: najdorf on May 10, 2013, 01:03:34 PM
Quote from: Nyr on May 10, 2013, 12:53:59 PM
Well if I were you I'd look at the 5th hop and do this a few more times, even pinging it directly if possible.  It missed a ping entirely and then the next one was 480 ms.  That's pretty high.  If you consistently get those results with that hop then you might be seeing where the issue is.

Now i try it with my ISP router (previous one was Iphone's Telecom 3G)

Now it's good all the way to Frankfurt (germany) but big numbers after that.

(http://o.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/fss/420637a5c18090897b00853c388be9f2/trace2.png)

EDIT: Wrong link was given, corrected.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on May 10, 2013, 01:11:58 PM
The two screenshots you provided are identical, so it does not look like you were using 3G before.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: najdorf on May 10, 2013, 01:12:55 PM
Sorry, fixed it. Put the wrong one. Please check above?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 10, 2013, 04:05:07 PM
Quote from: najdorf on May 10, 2013, 01:12:55 PM
Sorry, fixed it. Put the wrong one. Please check above?

That looks normal, and more like what you should be getting. Are you still getting lag?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 11, 2013, 12:31:20 AM
156 ms ping times are quite high... Of course your coming in from overseas so it is to be expected. I'm thinking that alone would cause some sort of lag... Mixed in with the lag the game is causing as of late could make it really bad. I don't think there's much you can do about the ping times considering you are coming from overseas. i would suggest seeing if things are better once the game lag is fixed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evil_erdlu on May 11, 2013, 05:18:43 AM
Najdorf, it is usual to have the fifth or sixth route have pings missing. It's the usual state of TTNet, the routers just leaving Turkey either can't respond to ping or respond late. It doesn't affect your speed. SüperOnline simply uses leased lines from TTNet anyway.. So the system must be the same.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 11, 2013, 07:46:02 PM
Lag seems worse after the reboot...But maybe it's everyone logging in at once?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 11, 2013, 07:47:29 PM
Maybe.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on May 11, 2013, 08:15:36 PM
I've begun to worry if it's possibly new grebbers (such as myself, on occassion) dropping many, many more rocks (that are useless to them but may be useful to someone else) than they should instead of junking them, but, I don't know. Likely not. I know on another mud I had a bunch of dufflebags filled with scratch off lottery tickets and I flew up and air-dropped them over populated areas in massive amounts, and the game slowed down tremendously until I combed every area and picked them all up, stuffing them back into a dufflebag. Could have been a coincidence, though. Scratch off lottery tickets are likely coded much differently on a moo than rocks are on a mud, so, probably a bad comparison.

Could have big stacks of like rocks convert into angry stone golems of the same rock type if left out long enough for all three moons to pass fully over them. That'll learn 'em. Wait, by that reasoning the cities would REALLY come alive, that's dumb, nevermind, also, STEER CLEAR OF THE STABLES! MASSIVE POOP GOLEM ON THE LOOSE! Not to mention the possibility of large bags filled with rocks becoming griefing tools.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 11, 2013, 08:16:50 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 11, 2013, 08:15:36 PM
I've begun to worry if it's possibly new grebbers (such as myself, on occassion) dropping many, many more rocks (that are useless to them but may be useful to someone else) than they should instead of junking them, but, I don't know. Likely not. I know on another mud I had a bunch of dufflebags filled with scratch off lottery tickets and I flew up and air-dropped them over populated areas in massive amounts, and the game slowed down tremendously until I combed every area and picked them all up, stuffing them back into a dufflebag. Could have been a coincidence, though. Scratch off lottery tickets are likely coded much differently on a moo than rocks are on a mud, so, probably a bad comparison.

Could have big stacks of like rocks convert into angry stone golems of the same rock type if left out long enough for all three moons to pass fully over them. That'll learn 'em. Wait, by that reasoning the cities would REALLY come alive, that's dumb, nevermind, also, STEER CLEAR OF THE STABLES! MASSIVE POOP GOLEM ON THE LOOSE! Not to mention the possibility of large bags filled with rocks becoming griefing tools.

Not really, staff have indicated before those items dont contribute very much to lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on May 13, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Keep us apprised of any additional issues with lag.  Some changes have been made and hopefully this will allay any problems.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riya OniSenshi on May 13, 2013, 11:48:43 AM
I've not been seeing anything near what most people have been bitching/whining about in the past week.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 13, 2013, 12:12:26 PM
Ok... I have done the following walked from stables to a tavern and tried contacting people when I got to the tavern... Its still fairly laggy.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: MeTekillot on May 13, 2013, 12:29:59 PM
Thinking items contribute to lag is like thinking a pebble will significantly alter the load bearing capacity of a pick-up truck. A few dozen sacks of pebbles might. But a handful of them won't.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on May 13, 2013, 12:55:48 PM
I am indeed seeing the lag this morning.  :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 13, 2013, 02:24:45 PM
Lag is getting to the point where playing the game is pretty much unbearable.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on May 13, 2013, 02:40:32 PM
So that's two people, anyone else?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on May 13, 2013, 02:44:05 PM
Yes. It's bad.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 13, 2013, 02:46:52 PM
Other then a 2-3 second delay every 30 seconds or so, it's fine for me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Maso on May 13, 2013, 02:48:14 PM
It's been really bad for me too. On and off though. But when it's on...makes it really hard to play at all.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Malken on May 13, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on May 13, 2013, 02:46:52 PM
Other then a 2-3 second delay every 30 seconds or so, it's fine for me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: chrisdcoulombe on May 13, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
HRPT to kill the lag Find out IC.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on May 13, 2013, 03:34:11 PM
Quote from: Malken on May 13, 2013, 03:21:03 PM
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on May 13, 2013, 02:46:52 PM
Other then a 2-3 second delay every 30 seconds or so, it's fine for me.

It seems to have gotten a little better. Or it is coming and going, one or the other.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on May 13, 2013, 03:40:20 PM
I'm seeing a little sporadic delay between commands.

For example:
"save" - almost instantaneous - which is my usual experience.

look west = a half-second delay
look in [building] no delay
look in [container] no delay
look = no delay
look (a second time) = split-second delay
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Malken on May 13, 2013, 03:53:04 PM
Yeah, now it's pretty bad..
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: chrisdcoulombe on May 13, 2013, 03:55:34 PM
every 10 or so commands I enter there is a solid 6 seconds of lag
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morgenes on May 13, 2013, 04:36:08 PM
Ok, we are going to try migrating our image to a new server to see if that helps.  See the Staff Announcement for details.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 13, 2013, 04:39:38 PM
I love it when downtimes happen when I'm otherwise planning to now be on the game.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 14, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
Ok, I see nothing on the Staff Announcements category. I cannot access mud or website, so I am assuming that the migration is happening now. Could someone please provide an update on when things will be back and running as normal?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morgenes on May 14, 2013, 01:52:46 PM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on May 14, 2013, 01:50:14 PM
Ok, I see nothing on the Staff Announcements category. I cannot access mud or website, so I am assuming that the migration is happening now. Could someone please provide an update on when things will be back and running as normal?

http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,45511.msg752347.html#msg752347

It was delayed by 2 hours, and so we will be later than we originally thought.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on May 14, 2013, 01:58:19 PM
Noooooooo! I need my fix... Come on man, you know I'm good for it... *whimpers*  :'(

On the bright side of things, shop reset! Less lag (hopefully)! Time for a shower (sniff self)!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: najdorf on May 14, 2013, 04:48:22 PM
Thank you for the server change. It is super turbo fast right now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on May 14, 2013, 05:03:53 PM
I tried connecting to armageddon.org, which I usually connect to, it didn't seem to work. Updating it to the new IP address worked, but it may generate some confusion among those players who do not use the boards or have not bothered to scroll down to the news section on the website.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on May 14, 2013, 05:11:21 PM
Depending on where you are in the world, it may take longer to have the DNS propagate.  In the interim, you can use the IP address, though.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on May 14, 2013, 05:21:19 PM
Agreed. It is running very smoothly now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on May 14, 2013, 06:24:21 PM
Seems to be back to normal. Just a little lag once in a while, which is to be expected. If that was a server owned by armageddon that was having problems, I'd suggest checking RAID card for problems. Perhaps a hard drive is on the verge of going bad or something.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: chrisdcoulombe on May 14, 2013, 10:54:42 PM
Its much better. ;D
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: InsertCleverNameHere on May 16, 2013, 09:55:37 AM
Anyone else getting a bad lag-smack or just me, this morning?  :-\
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 24, 2013, 07:57:32 PM
Is anyone getting a lag again?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Iiyola on May 24, 2013, 08:32:09 PM
Nope, still running smoothly.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 24, 2013, 08:33:49 PM
I guess it's me...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on May 24, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
I just lagged out, and cant connect to the site, or game.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lutagar on May 24, 2013, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Fredd on May 24, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
I just lagged out, and cant connect to the site, or game.

Same!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 24, 2013, 09:23:32 PM
Quote from: Lutagar on May 24, 2013, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: Fredd on May 24, 2013, 09:21:56 PM
I just lagged out, and cant connect to the site, or game.

Same!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fredd on June 05, 2013, 10:30:10 PM
Am I the only one with bad lag atm?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 05, 2013, 10:34:20 PM
None here.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on June 05, 2013, 11:26:35 PM
I did have some lag for a bit when I was playing half an hour ago.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Khommie on June 05, 2013, 11:34:05 PM
No lag currently.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on June 07, 2013, 03:15:13 AM
Anyone else lagging out there?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BadSkeelz on June 07, 2013, 03:15:49 AM
Quite severely.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on June 10, 2013, 10:41:55 PM
Anyone else experiencing lag right now? I'm severely lagged and all ping times are 40ms or less.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Refugee on June 10, 2013, 10:42:41 PM
Yeah, lagging here.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 10, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
No lag at all here.


That I'm noticing. Not paying a ton of attention*
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vwest on June 11, 2013, 01:29:28 AM
Getting several large (3-5 minute) lag spikes a day, but otherwise it runs fine.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: AmandaGreathouse on June 13, 2013, 10:11:19 PM
Am I the only one lagging out horribly all over the place tonight?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vwest on June 13, 2013, 10:26:08 PM
No, I had pretty awful lag / disconnects all day until just recently.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Shik on June 21, 2013, 03:15:25 PM
The monster rears its ugly head again.

I can connect to the mud, but nothing comes from it. The website won't work for me at the moment, either.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on June 30, 2013, 01:34:18 PM
I'm pretty sure people are aware But last night and through 11:30am today (that was the last I was on) Lag is horrendous. However, reconnecting seems to clear it up for whatever reason. Well it temporarily clears it up. Ping times are good under 25 ms for me so that's not it. And it seemed the game just died two or three times last night. Any information on when this might be cleared up?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on July 02, 2013, 01:33:54 AM
I've been getting some lag, but I'm also getting "lost" commands. Sometimes I enter commands, and nothing happens. They're getting lost on the way to Ginka, maybe. Or hoovered up by the NSA.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 02, 2013, 03:34:13 AM
Quote from: Morrolan on July 02, 2013, 01:33:54 AM
I've been getting some lag, but I'm also getting "lost" commands. Sometimes I enter commands, and nothing happens. They're getting lost on the way to Ginka, maybe. Or hoovered up by the NSA.

I am also experiencing lost commands. Mostly look commands and emotes. I've found if I reconnect it temporarily fixes the problem. I also find if I say something either say, tell, or talk commands and then do help and something it restores everything to working correctly. Quite an odd problem. I thought I was the only one with it.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: DustMight on July 02, 2013, 04:28:49 PM
Just got disconnected and can't log in again - get the starting screen but everything hangs at the pword prompt. Not sure what's up.  All other systems are go.

Pinging ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.
Reply from 206.72.201.199: bytes=32 time=19ms TTL=51
Request timed out.
Reply from 206.72.201.199: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=51

Ping statistics for 206.72.201.199:
   Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
   Minimum = 19ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 20ms

And this:
Tracing route to 206.72.102.199 over a maximum of 30 hops

[redacted]
 6    13 ms    14 ms    12 ms  te0-7-0-10.ccr21.bos01.atlas.cogentco.com [38.99.222.137]
 7    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  te0-2-0-1.ccr21.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.44.93]
 8    37 ms    36 ms    37 ms  te0-7-0-15.ccr21.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.90]
 9    37 ms    37 ms    37 ms  be2006.ccr21.ord03.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.5.18]
10    40 ms    39 ms    40 ms  38.104.103.50
11    92 ms    91 ms    91 ms  be-2.sc01.chcgildt.integra.net [209.63.82.185]
12    95 ms    95 ms    95 ms  be3.sc01.slkcutxd.integra.net [209.63.82.98]
13    88 ms    87 ms    87 ms  tg13-1.cr01.boisidpz.integra.net [209.63.114.29]
14    89 ms    87 ms    88 ms  tg13-4.cr02.boisidpz.integra.net [209.63.114.14]
15    88 ms    88 ms    88 ms  tg13-1.cr02.ptleorte.integra.net [209.63.114.17]
16    97 ms    88 ms    88 ms  tg13-1.ar10.ptldorfj.integra.net [209.63.114.158]
17    96 ms    93 ms    111 ms  gw-cust-xerox-com.ptle.eli.net [207.173.191.6]
18    94 ms    94 ms    95 ms  206.72.102.199
19    94 ms    94 ms    94 ms  206.72.102.199
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 02, 2013, 04:43:39 PM
Agree:

                             My traceroute  [v0.82]
Dell-Latitude-D505 (0.0.0.0)                           Tue Jul  2 16:40:30 2013
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
Host                                                                              Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
1. 192.168.2.1                                                             0.0%    15    1.6   5.6   1.5  49.5  12.2
2. ???
3. ip68-100-3-9.dc.dc.cox.net                                  0.0%    15   12.5  14.3  10.1  38.8   7.4
4. ip68-100-2-110.dc.dc.cox.net                             0.0%    15   20.4  15.9  10.7  33.2   6.5
5. mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.ne                   0.0%    14   11.9  14.3  10.2  29.8   5.4
6. 68.1.5.157                                                               0.0%    14   22.0  23.3  16.8  69.2  13.6
7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com                                      0.0%    14   16.7  21.0  16.7  43.2   6.7
8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net                             0.0%    14   18.3  46.1  17.3 347.7  87.1
9. openvz28.interserver.net                                     0.0%    14   18.1  39.4  17.7 267.3  66.0
10. ginka.armageddon.org                                       0.0%    14   22.9  37.5  18.1 167.0  38.8
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Delirium on July 08, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
Is anyone else getting horrible lag or is my router just being a bitch?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riya OniSenshi on July 09, 2013, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: Delirium on July 08, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
Is anyone else getting horrible lag or is my router just being a bitch?

www.network-tools.com and do a trace route?

That should show you if there's a disproportionate amount of latency on your end.
I know I've not gotten any lag the last couple days.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on July 20, 2013, 01:54:48 PM
Did the mud crash? Or is the lag really bad right now?

traceroute to prove its not my connection (edited out my IPs):

Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ELEMENTS [**.***.***.**]
  2     7 ms     7 ms    12 ms  **.***.***.**
  3     7 ms     7 ms     8 ms  mx480-xe-1-0-1.electronicbox.net [**.***.***.**]

  4     7 ms     7 ms     7 ms  mx480-xe-1-0-1.electronicbox.net [**.***.***.**]

  5     7 ms     7 ms     9 ms  10ge.ebox.peer1.electronicbox.net [**.***.***.**]
  6    15 ms    13 ms    14 ms  10ge.xe-2-0-0.nyc-telx-dis-1.peer1.net [216.187.
115.49]
  7     *        *       44 ms  eqix-ny2.interserver.com [198.32.118.45]
  8     *        *        *     Request timed out.
  9     *        *        *     Request timed out.
10     *        *       43 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barzalene on July 20, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Thought it was just me!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Alkendor on July 20, 2013, 05:59:59 PM
Looks like there is a problem with the New York fiber. Should only affect people north of it from the looks of things.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 20, 2013, 06:23:44 PM
Yeah, it's not here in Ohio.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on July 20, 2013, 06:39:42 PM
Hope it gets fixed before THE BIG DAY.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 20, 2013, 08:16:17 PM
This problem has been happening off and on for the past three or four days. Severe packet loss to that same address as shown in the above trace. Its there for a two to five minutes and then clears. I just haven't had a chance to get a capture of things yet. I will the next time it happens.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on July 20, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
Great big lag spike happening right nao.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FantasyWriter on July 20, 2013, 10:54:47 PM
I'm getting this every few hours. I end up having to break connection and log back in and it's back to normal.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on July 20, 2013, 11:18:22 PM
Can't access the mud at all at this point.  Browsing the website and the forums is a real pain in the ass as well.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 21, 2013, 12:33:58 AM
Quote from: LauraMars on July 20, 2013, 11:18:22 PM
Can't access the mud at all at this point.  Browsing the website and the forums is a real pain in the ass as well.

Yeah sorry same here, I was out in the wilds so no way I could take the time to do anything. In an extremely dangerous area too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 21, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
Finally I was able to catch it:

                             My traceroute  [v0.82]
Dell-Latitude-D505 (0.0.0.0)                           Sun Jul 21 10:32:57 2013
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
1. 192.168.2.1                       0.0%    10    6.3   5.1   1.5   7.3   2.3
2. ???
3. ip68-100-3-173.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%     9   14.7  16.1   9.9  22.9   4.0
4. ip68-100-2-110.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%     9   14.1  14.5  10.9  15.6   1.5
5. mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.ne  0.0%     9   14.7  25.5  12.7 102.4  29.0
6. 68.1.5.157                        0.0%     9   21.0  21.9  17.1  24.9   2.5
7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com         33.3%     9   55.0  70.7  55.0  97.9  17.9
8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net      22.2%     9  102.7  90.1  62.4 106.1  16.9
9. openvz28.interserver.net         37.5%     9   92.2  89.6  60.7 107.4  18.8
10. ginka.armageddon.org             12.5%     9   67.9  82.7  59.6 108.1  18.5
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 22, 2013, 12:47:23 PM
Lag and packet loss again:

                             My traceroute  [v0.82]
Dell-Latitude-D505 (0.0.0.0)                           Mon Jul 22 12:46:41 2013
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
1. 192.168.2.1                       0.0%    28    1.5   1.9   1.4   5.1   0.8
2. ???
3. ip68-100-3-173.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%    27   13.3  12.8   9.5  23.3   3.5
4. ip68-100-2-110.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%    27    9.6  14.2   9.6  44.6   7.1
5. mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.ne  0.0%    27   18.3  12.1   9.2  19.8   3.0
6. 68.1.5.157                        0.0%    27   17.4  19.2  15.9  31.7   3.8
7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com         40.7%    27   43.3  77.7  40.4 355.7  84.0
8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net      33.3%    27   41.8  43.8  40.6  52.8   3.2
9. openvz28.interserver.net         33.3%    27   44.6  45.1  41.1  52.4   3.3
10. ginka.armageddon.org             37.0%    27   47.4  43.3  40.4  54.2   3.4
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on July 22, 2013, 12:56:14 PM
Ran into it a bit earlier, myself.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on July 24, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
Say I'm not sure what, but something happened just a bit ago. Wasn't able to reach the server at all for MTR.

                             My traceroute  [v0.82]
Dell-Latitude-D505 (0.0.0.0)                           Wed Jul 24 19:34:52 2013
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                                       Packets               Pings
Host                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
1. 192.168.2.1                       0.0%     6    1.8   1.8   1.4   3.0   0.6
2. ???
3. ip68-100-3-173.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%     6   20.3  11.7   9.1  20.3   4.2
4. ip68-100-2-110.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%     6   10.0  12.9  10.0  22.0   4.5
5. mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.ne  0.0%     6   11.1  11.4  10.8  12.4   0.7
6. 68.1.5.157                        0.0%     6   17.8  18.4  17.2  22.0   1.8
7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com          0.0%     6   17.0  21.6  16.4  36.9   8.0
8. ???
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 24, 2013, 07:52:22 PM
I hit a lag for the forums too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 25, 2013, 04:07:43 AM
Yeah, I was disconnected and the forums stopped working, both at the same time. Then getting back into the game I was disconnected one more time.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on July 26, 2013, 08:12:05 PM
getting bad lag, can barely log in. MY ADDICTION! NOOO!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 28, 2013, 06:29:11 PM
I just hit one.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: janeshephard on August 02, 2013, 11:01:25 PM
Mud unreachable. I guess Ill go play something on Steam.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on August 02, 2013, 11:01:49 PM
Okay I get into a really good point with rollplaying and now everything is dead. Anyone know what's going on? Here's what I'm seeing:

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2. ???
3. ip68-100-3-173.dc.dc.cox.net      0.0%    20    9.9  17.0   9.6  33.6   7.7
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8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net       0.0%    19   18.8  22.9  17.0  49.0   9.1
9. ?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BleakOne on August 02, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
I think the server crashed. It usually only takes fifteen minutes or so to come back.

Patience is a virtue.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: razorback on August 02, 2013, 11:03:32 PM
Blah! Just...blah! Open, damn you! *pounds keyboard* Open, or I swear I'll kiss ShaLeah's butt!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: janeshephard on August 02, 2013, 11:05:02 PM
Quote from: BleakOne on August 02, 2013, 11:02:51 PM
I think the server crashed. It usually only takes fifteen minutes or so to come back.

Patience is a virtue.

We'd get connection refused if it crashed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Potaje on August 02, 2013, 11:05:32 PM
*Crash*
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on August 02, 2013, 11:13:35 PM
It looks to me that the provider is having an issue and the server/game is down currently.  We are looking into the issue!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: razorback on August 02, 2013, 11:20:16 PM
Go, Nathvaan! It's your bir...yeah, nevermind.  ;D
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on August 09, 2013, 05:04:02 AM
I don't think there should be this bad of latency this time of the day. Could be wrong, but oh well:

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5. mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.ne  0.2%   459    9.4  12.3   8.3  70.8   7.2
6. 68.1.5.157                        0.0%   459   18.7  22.5  15.4 320.6  18.8
7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com          0.0%   459   17.0  32.4  15.7 372.5  47.1
8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net       0.0%   459   18.2  21.0  16.2 322.9  23.7
9. openvz28.interserver.net          0.0%   459   17.2  19.5  16.0 227.4  15.6
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Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on August 16, 2013, 12:32:54 PM
I am experiencing lag in game as well as on the forums. I'm showing high latency on the last few hops on running MTR.

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8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net       0.0%    57   21.3  24.8  16.8 304.0  37.8
9. openvz28.interserver.net          0.0%    57   19.5  22.4  16.0 206.0  24.9
10. ginka.armageddon.org              0.0%    57   18.6  21.9  16.6 105.6  12.3
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Gilgamesh on September 21, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
I've been getting a lot of lag in the game the past couple of days. It's gotten worse today. Anybody else getting any lag right now?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 21, 2013, 06:24:59 PM
Getting nothing on my side at the moment.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 26, 2013, 07:45:31 PM
Game crashed?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on September 26, 2013, 07:46:16 PM
Seems that way... That's like the third time that I know of in two days.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on September 27, 2013, 12:21:52 PM
A sudden lag spike.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Wday on September 27, 2013, 12:24:01 PM
lagging pretty bad at this time.
Oh and it only lags when I go west. yep helpful tip there
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on October 02, 2013, 03:29:36 PM
Anyone else lagging? I have a lot of intermittent lag right now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on October 07, 2013, 12:36:58 AM
Just had a HUGE lag spurt and all I was doing was standing around talking.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on October 12, 2013, 01:57:14 PM
Anyone else, too?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on October 12, 2013, 07:24:08 PM
Nevermind my earlier post now, it seems the entire game's crashed down. Or is this me again?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: valeria on October 12, 2013, 07:24:37 PM
Seems pretty crashed to me.   :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on October 28, 2013, 11:55:16 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/nd6WV9b.png)

Been like this for a while now. Top left is ping to ginka, top right is ping to google, bottom center is the traceroute to ginka, with close servers blacked out. What do?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: ShaLeah on October 28, 2013, 11:58:09 PM
I had to log out mine was so bad. Haysoos. :o
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Refugee on October 29, 2013, 12:16:46 AM
Others were complaining an hour ago and I was fine, now I'm lagging so bad I'm crashing out.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
I have no freaking clue what's going on but I get to "atlas.cogentco" and that stuff crashes HARD.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: James de Monet on October 29, 2013, 12:19:09 AM
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Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Hicksville Hoochie on October 29, 2013, 12:19:17 AM
Been hitting me on and off at random for a couple of days as well.  :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:27:58 AM
Holy fucking shit, this lag is ridiculous, and it's NOWHERE near me,
  5   212 ms   203 ms   207 ms  te8-5.ccr01.alb02.atlas.cogentco.com [38.104.52.
29]
  6   114 ms   217 ms   269 ms  te9-7.ccr01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.43.
6]
  7    49 ms    50 ms    51 ms  te8-2.mag01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [154.54.80.
86]
  8    53 ms     *       51 ms  vl3607.na31.b017536-1.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com [
38.20.42.62]
  9    51 ms    51 ms    50 ms  38.105.245.50
10     *        *       50 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
11    48 ms
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Ourla on October 29, 2013, 12:29:03 AM
Wow, me too, worse than I've ever experienced.  I had to log out.   :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:29:19 AM
I refuse to let lag beat my ass.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: A Large Bag on October 29, 2013, 12:30:12 AM
Damn. Bad bad lag..
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on October 29, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
So for once I'm not having lag problems when everyone else is. That's odd

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7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com          0.0%    35   57.7  26.4  16.9 179.9  28.0
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Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: MeTekillot on October 29, 2013, 12:38:17 AM
Quote from: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:17:37 AM
I have no freaking clue what's going on but I get to "atlas.cogentco" and that stuff crashes HARD.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=atlast.cogentco
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on October 29, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
So for once I'm not having lag problems when everyone else is. That's odd

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2. 10.3.184.1                        0.0%    35   13.4  11.8   8.5  35.2   5.1
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7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com          0.0%    35   57.7  26.4  16.9 179.9  28.0
8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net       0.0%    35   19.8  19.1  16.9  31.1   3.0
9. openvz28.interserver.net          0.0%    35   19.2  18.9  16.2  30.7   2.6
10. ginka.armageddon.org              0.0%    34   19.2  18.7  16.0  28.7   2.4


You're not hitting atlas.cogentco, which is what I bet a lot of us east coasters(?) might be hitting. If I knew how to route my fucking router around that, believe me, I would dodge that shit so hard.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Kronibas on October 29, 2013, 12:49:01 AM
Is there any chance that this is sabotage or man-made lag?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on October 29, 2013, 12:52:36 AM
Quote from: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:39:01 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on October 29, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
So for once I'm not having lag problems when everyone else is. That's odd

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2. 10.3.184.1                        0.0%    35   13.4  11.8   8.5  35.2   5.1
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6. 68.1.5.157                        0.0%    35   16.8  18.2  15.7  31.7   2.7
7. eqix-ny2.interserver.com          0.0%    35   57.7  26.4  16.9 179.9  28.0
8. edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net       0.0%    35   19.8  19.1  16.9  31.1   3.0
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You're not hitting atlas.cogentco, which is what I bet a lot of us east coasters(?) might be hitting. If I knew how to route my fucking router around that, believe me, I would dodge that shit so hard.

I'm on the east coast... No way to do it on your end your ISP and theirs determines the routes you take. Call your ISP and complain. Easier fix would be for a staff member to send in the information to the host of their server and have them open a ticket with Cogent.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jherlen on October 29, 2013, 12:58:13 AM
I'm in Chicago and don't seem to be lagging any.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 12:58:58 AM
I'm in the northeast coast.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Ourla on October 29, 2013, 12:59:53 AM
I'm on the west coast and this is ridiculous!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on October 29, 2013, 01:10:38 AM
Seems to have cleared for a short time now, for me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: valeria on October 29, 2013, 07:46:17 AM
I'm eastish, and terrible lag has been hitting pretty regularly for me around 11 pm for the last couple of days  :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on October 29, 2013, 07:59:43 AM
I'm starting to get very very suspicious of this 11pm thing.. but it was more like almost 9 pm for me. Weiiiird.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BadSkeelz on October 29, 2013, 07:53:24 PM
California myself. When I logged in around 8:30/9 last night the lag was something fierce. That'd be 11:30/midnight east coast. Wonder what happened to the interwebs then.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on October 30, 2013, 07:22:13 PM
Hit one.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on October 30, 2013, 07:49:43 PM
I had one at the same time, though there was no latency at the time. Sorry was busy so couldn't report it sooner.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on October 30, 2013, 07:53:43 PM
Another one right now and there's no latency no packet loss no nothing.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Wish on October 30, 2013, 08:42:08 PM
I'm feelin' the lag.  It's hitting me pretty hard!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on November 02, 2013, 05:28:34 PM
Hitting one, I think.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on November 02, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
Getting it rather bad.  Keep getting disconnected and every time I try to log back in, it first tries to tell me that my account is unable to be found.  Second try lets me log in.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 02, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
At least it's safe lag. From what I've seen it won't get you killed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BuNutzCola on November 02, 2013, 06:21:33 PM
A brown carru has arrived from the north.
A brown carru has arrived from the north.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on November 03, 2013, 01:01:32 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on November 02, 2013, 05:31:05 PM
At least it's safe lag. From what I've seen it won't get you killed.

From what I've seen it will.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on November 03, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Caught a big one!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on November 03, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: Barsook on November 03, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Caught a big one!

no that was us
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on November 03, 2013, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: Nyr on November 03, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: Barsook on November 03, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Caught a big one!

no that was us

When will be back up?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on November 03, 2013, 09:06:45 PM
Did it crash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on November 03, 2013, 09:07:33 PM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on November 03, 2013, 09:06:45 PM
Did it crash?

Yes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on November 03, 2013, 09:10:53 PM
Quote from: Barsook on November 03, 2013, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: Nyr on November 03, 2013, 09:05:44 PM
Quote from: Barsook on November 03, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
Caught a big one!

no that was us

When will be back up?

It's 2013 and the game is on a virtual box; if the game crashes and doesn't pop up in a minute or two, hide under your desk.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on November 06, 2013, 08:48:46 PM
Wow. Seem to be getting some of the worst I've seen, tonight.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 06, 2013, 08:50:35 PM
Yeah. It's hitting once again. Atlas.cogentco is to blame generally.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on November 06, 2013, 09:16:21 PM
Anyone want to go fight a Gaj?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 06, 2013, 09:22:57 PM
Sure. As soon as the LAG clears up.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on November 06, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
It cleared up around 5 minutes after the game reset.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 08, 2013, 12:55:31 AM
My internet is fine and I can't seem to connect... Is it just me?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on November 08, 2013, 12:56:04 AM
Pretty horrible lag going on as we speak. Probably due to that.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 08, 2013, 02:52:03 AM
Can someone recommend a good proxy server to go through to get around this fucking atlas.cogentco thing?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: MeTekillot on November 08, 2013, 03:14:23 AM
That's a service provider problem, isn't it? Proxies don't help with those, if I'm not mistaken.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on November 08, 2013, 07:45:13 AM
Quote from: MeTekillot on November 08, 2013, 03:14:23 AM
That's a service provider problem, isn't it? Proxies don't help with those, if I'm not mistaken.

seems to be.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on November 08, 2013, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: MeTekillot on November 08, 2013, 03:14:23 AM
That's a service provider problem, isn't it? Proxies don't help with those, if I'm not mistaken.

What it is, is the route to ginka seems to be going through a server owned by Cogent that has been getting very flooded/having very spotty network issues. Cabbage is hoping there is a proxy server that would take a different route, since the lag isn't experienced by EVERYONE, so there must be a way to "get around the lag" somewhere.



Whats even more frustrating, is the route takes you through like five different hops in the JFK cluster of Atlas. COME ON.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on November 08, 2013, 12:29:16 PM
Just to be clear, routes on a ping or traceroute are NOT servers. They are switches and possibly routers. It doesn't do any good to be calling things what they aren't.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 08, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
So, lag, or game down?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 08, 2013, 06:05:24 PM
Game crashed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on November 08, 2013, 10:35:38 PM
Is it just me, or is the game a bit more unstable, of late?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 08, 2013, 10:52:07 PM
It's crashed three times today so far.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 08, 2013, 10:59:02 PM
QUIT RUINING MY MUDSEX!  ::)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BuNutzCola on November 08, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
Clearly some awesome behind the scenes stuff going on y'all.

That or Tek is making the run to 30th level dragon.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 08, 2013, 11:11:54 PM
there is nothing awesome behind the scenes about these frighteningly dangerous crashes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on November 08, 2013, 11:14:50 PM
Good thing I've decided to postpone hunting until this is fixed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on November 09, 2013, 03:45:13 AM
Just save a lot. That'll help with the crashes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Drayab on November 09, 2013, 04:13:49 AM
And check old.armageddon.org to verify that it's the whole game that went down, not just you. That makes the crashes a lot less scary to me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 09, 2013, 04:57:40 AM
It is, outright, the entire server crashing... but my save timer has me loading back in at the most unpleasant of locations sometimes...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2013, 05:16:55 AM
Is it still crashing?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on November 09, 2013, 03:16:43 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 09, 2013, 05:16:55 AM
Is it still crashing?

QuoteArmageddon last booted 12 hours, 54 minutes and 29 seconds ago.
From old.armageddon.org
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2013, 03:21:21 PM
Huh... Maybe it -was- me. Damnit.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on November 09, 2013, 06:40:15 PM
Chrash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on November 09, 2013, 06:42:48 PM
Yup back up though.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 09, 2013, 07:31:15 PM
I'll take this most recent dissconnect as a sign I should probably stop playing so much. 3 days played in a little over a week is a bit crazy.

The disconnects are annoying. Not sure if it's related to the lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 09, 2013, 07:33:16 PM
I'm fairly certain it's not me this time, though I could be wrong.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Ktavialt on November 10, 2013, 06:36:50 PM
Well I'm tavern sitting for a bit now until this lag spike stuff goes the way of the dodo.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on November 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
Is it just me?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on November 26, 2013, 05:27:35 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
Is it just me?

Nope.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: shadeoux on November 26, 2013, 05:28:00 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
Is it just me?
Nope lagging here as well.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on December 12, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
Is it just me?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FreeRangeVestric on December 12, 2013, 08:41:27 PM
Quote from: Barsook on December 12, 2013, 08:29:25 PM
Quote from: Fujikoma on November 26, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
Is it just me?

Been getting it on and off these last few days. So, nope!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on December 13, 2013, 08:49:11 AM
Okay every day at 6am Server Time, without fail, when I'm on there is a lag spike. Anyone else seeing this as well? During this time there is no latency and no packet loss and others seem to have the same lag problems. Is this like a back up time for the server or something?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on December 13, 2013, 09:29:19 AM
Those are the natural disturbances in Zalanthan spacetime caused by Tektolnes taking his weekly shit. Nothing to worry about, it's just the unfortunate toll that his innumerable years of sorcery has taken on his bowels.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on December 13, 2013, 10:11:15 AM
Quote from: HarmlessThose are the natural disturbances in Zalanthan spacetime caused by Tektolnes taking his weekly shit. Nothing to worry about, it's just the unfortunate toll that his innumerable years of sorcery has taken on his bowels.

Oh crud, I wanted to sig this, but it seems I've run out of space.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on January 20, 2014, 04:15:46 AM
Sorry to res an old thread, but is the game down, or did I get banned?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Zoan on January 20, 2014, 05:38:14 AM
u done got banned son
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on January 20, 2014, 05:41:16 AM
Just to set my mind at ease... Uh, they'd send an email like with  character death an all, something like:

Sorry to hear you got banned! Find some way to change your IP and better luck next time!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on January 21, 2014, 07:56:52 PM
It is lagging about 3-5 seconds to me and at least one other person IG currently.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on January 21, 2014, 07:58:13 PM
Mucho sluggish, I froze out and couldn't reconnect, it kept timing out at the login screen.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 21, 2014, 08:00:36 PM
Seems only some people are getting it, but they're getting it BAD.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on February 20, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
Is anyone getting a lag when sending in commands sometimes?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: thatkid on February 20, 2014, 07:58:34 PM
Anything that's more than 1 line in length (My prompt, all says and tells, all forms of movement, and so on) take about 10 seconds to show up for me.
Anytime I'm receiving multiple messages in rapid succession, like in combat, it takes a good 10-20 seconds for any of my commands to even go through. Needless to say I am terrified of any situation that might require using flee.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on February 20, 2014, 08:06:06 PM
Yeah, it's the multiple line things.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: valeria on February 20, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Off and on, but I'm rarely sure what's the game, and what's my shoddy connection.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 20, 2014, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: valeria on February 20, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Off and on, but I'm rarely sure what's the game, and what's my shoddy connection.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if the whole damned internet isn't fucking up.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on February 20, 2014, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on February 20, 2014, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: valeria on February 20, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Off and on, but I'm rarely sure what's the game, and what's my shoddy connection.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if the whole damned internet isn't fucking up.

Yeah.  It's even effecting my radio stream that I have playing at times.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: boog on February 20, 2014, 08:38:27 PM
Me too!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: thatkid on February 20, 2014, 08:39:33 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on February 20, 2014, 08:18:18 PM
Quote from: valeria on February 20, 2014, 08:14:18 PM
Off and on, but I'm rarely sure what's the game, and what's my shoddy connection.

At this point I'm starting to wonder if the whole damned internet isn't fucking up.
IIRC:
Major cable providers are actively cutting down on the bandwidth they provide, because of something involving netflix, apparently.
Because of recent snowstorms, a number of services are made all the worse as well...or something?

The whole internet is fucking up. Google balloons are our only hope.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on February 20, 2014, 08:45:59 PM
I think it's the snowstorms that are the major cause.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: valeria on February 20, 2014, 09:27:30 PM
I'm pretty sure in my case, it's the snowstorms, ice, and rain, screwing things up for me.  I just hope this isn't going to be a yearly thing.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 21, 2014, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: valeria on February 20, 2014, 09:27:30 PM
I'm pretty sure in my case, it's the snowstorms, ice, and rain, screwing things up for me.  I just hope this isn't going to be a yearly thing.

People keep bringing this up, and I know a lot of places are getting some storms lately. But snow/ice/rainstorms honestly shouldn't be affecting most peoples internet. Rarely there's power outages or broken components from water/ice damaging the cable boxes, but those sorts of issues are fairly easy to track down and fix and shouldn't persist for a very long time.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 21, 2014, 11:14:15 AM
Actually it all depends on how good the cabling/telephone wires are in your neighborhood. I know for a fact from years of doing DSL support that weather CAN and DOES affect copper wires if they are not properly covered/shielded. So yes inclement weather can cause serious problems. I also know from having cable internet that one time a technician came to my house due to problems and found that the underground cable wires running to my house were improperly covered/shielded and I would have problems with packet loss whenever it would rain or the snow would melt. This took SEVERAL tech support calls to finally convince them that there was something wrong and it needed to be looked at. Probably took about a year for someone finally figure out what was going on.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: valeria on February 21, 2014, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on February 21, 2014, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: valeria on February 20, 2014, 09:27:30 PM
I'm pretty sure in my case, it's the snowstorms, ice, and rain, screwing things up for me.  I just hope this isn't going to be a yearly thing.

People keep bringing this up, and I know a lot of places are getting some storms lately. But snow/ice/rainstorms honestly shouldn't be affecting most peoples internet. Rarely there's power outages or broken components from water/ice damaging the cable boxes, but those sorts of issues are fairly easy to track down and fix and shouldn't persist for a very long time.

I don't know how rural you live, but here in cow country  ;), the water does actually get into the lines and affect things.  Most of the cable and phone lines were laid before I was born.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Sephiroto on February 21, 2014, 10:54:27 PM
Not this again...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manipura on February 21, 2014, 10:55:29 PM
*sigh*
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on February 21, 2014, 10:56:51 PM
This on the hosting server from the looks of it:

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Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FantasyWriter on February 21, 2014, 10:57:12 PM
Cannot get past mantis head!
Hope it's not a sign of what I will see when I DO log back in. ;)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LittleLady on February 21, 2014, 11:00:13 PM
Insane doom lag!  :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Sephiroto on February 21, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
This problem seems to happen once a year, affecting only part of the player-base.  Perhaps some of the staff members could build tunnels into the MUD, that way we have alternate paths into the MUD when this happens.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on February 21, 2014, 11:00:50 PM
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is all.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BleakOne on February 21, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
Uh... I think the whole mud crashed
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 21, 2014, 11:05:03 PM
Quote from: Sephiroto on February 21, 2014, 11:00:38 PM
This problem seems to happen once a year, affecting only part of the player-base.  Perhaps some of the staff members could build tunnels into the MUD, that way we have alternate paths into the MUD when this happens.

Eeeh. The thread would suggest it's happening about every 2-3 months.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FantasyWriter on February 21, 2014, 11:05:22 PM
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Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: 3kanks on February 21, 2014, 11:05:30 PM
Well... it's not just me. That's sort of comforting.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Symphony on February 21, 2014, 11:06:28 PM
So many bodies to lootbury as soon as Ginka settles down..  :D

(http://stream1.gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs/179341_o.gif)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Inks on February 21, 2014, 11:06:58 PM
Feel sorry for you hunters out there today.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Chettaman on February 21, 2014, 11:07:39 PM
we should try logging in all at the same time. see what happens.
my guess? super-creature made of all our dreams.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on February 21, 2014, 11:10:04 PM
At first I was like....

(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_maeu8e5wuj1rxmai6o1_500.gif)

But then Ginka was like....

(http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/game-of-thrones-fattie.gif)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Symphony on February 21, 2014, 11:11:22 PM
His face on the first strike.... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah x99999999999999999999999999999999
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: hotfox on February 21, 2014, 11:13:01 PM
Can't even get through the log in screen right now, armageddon.org webpage isn't coming up either.. all my other site work great, even my other games work great.  :-\ :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Ourla on February 23, 2014, 12:43:28 AM
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag   >:(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LittleLady on February 23, 2014, 08:43:19 PM
More doom lag!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on February 23, 2014, 08:43:50 PM
Yup, starting to hit the waves of lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 23, 2014, 06:49:57 PM
Hit a BIG one!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manipura on March 25, 2014, 11:50:21 PM
 >:(  >:(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 12:01:09 AM
Lag is so bad the last three or four nights it's basically unplayable.

Seems the be at its worst while in groups.

My tracert comes back completely clean.

Even the GDB lags when the game is giving me lag spikes.

Also seems to only be bad after a certain time. Right after I get home from work, for the first couple of hours, it runs like a dream. Later in the night, it runs like hammered shit. Fifteen seconds of play, a fifteen second lag spike....over and over and over and over.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 26, 2014, 12:09:47 AM
This is another one of those times where I get no lag, while watching a bunch of others lagging and disconnecting.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 12:10:56 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on March 26, 2014, 12:09:47 AM
This is another one of those times where I get no lag, while watching a bunch of others lagging and disconnecting.

I hate you and everything you stand for. But yeah, it seems to be affecting about 50% of the player base.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 12:13:36 AM
Also just tested this. It has to be the www.armageddon.org domain (or whatever). Even when I'm not logged into the game, the GDB will give me the exact same lag spikes on basically the exact same schedule as when I am logged in, for the same periods of time.

I can't even play GDB without the spikes.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 26, 2014, 01:17:57 AM
That is more likely to be indicative of an error somewhere between you and both of the servers that run the two.

The Main site and the GDB are on different domains. And both work fine for me when someone else is lagging. It another one of those 50/50 in-between servers lag sessions we get from time to time, only this time it's on the other side.

I feel like a primitive person trying to described disease.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on March 26, 2014, 08:00:23 AM
Yeh, lag hasn't bothered me at all.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 09:26:03 AM
So, anything we can do about it or do we just not play for a while?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 26, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
Run a traceroute or even better a program called MTR (My Trace Route) It will show you where the packet loss and/or latency is being caused. If its something at your ISPs end (anything up the hop just after the first hand-off to another provider) you could call them and have them investigate. Of course most of the time this won't work because they'll try to find a way to remove blame from themselves.

GDB was unreachable for me about 30 minutes ago.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manonfire on March 26, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
Smear dielectric grease all over the inside of your modem.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 10:04:47 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 26, 2014, 09:29:12 AM
Run a traceroute or even better a program called MTR (My Trace Route) It will show you where the packet loss and/or latency is being caused. If its something at your ISPs end (anything up the hop just after the first hand-off to another provider) you could call them and have them investigate. Of course most of the time this won't work because they'll try to find a way to remove blame from themselves.

GDB was unreachable for me about 30 minutes ago.

I ran a tracert, even during the hard lag spikes, multiple times over the last two days. Clean as a whistle (I was all, "I'm going to get you this time fucker!")....which is the part that really confuses me. It doesn't appear to be packet loss from everything I can tell. Just...delays....

Start to enter a new room, get the first line of the description.......fifteen seconds of lag.......everything jumps onto the screen that has happened in the last fifteen seconds....fifteen or twenty seconds of smooth play......repeat......
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 26, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
Then it sounds like more of a performance issue/client problem. Are you running with logs enabled all the time? If so I would suggest checking your hard drive space and defragmenting the hard drive. Unless you have an SSD of course, then don't defrag. Might try to just do a general reboot of your computer, modem, router.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 26, 2014, 10:08:34 AM
Then it sounds like more of a performance issue/client problem. Are you running with logs enabled all the time? If so I would suggest checking your hard drive space and defragmenting the hard drive. Unless you have an SSD of course, then don't defrag. Might try to just do a general reboot of your computer, modem, router.

I have two PC's running that have the exact same problem. It also affects my access to the GDB even when I'm not logged into the game. So not a client problem or a PC problem.

I also observe it to happen to about four or five out of the ten players my character roams with at around the same times. So....I would guess it is an Armageddon-side thing, that or we are all running the same machines. (Extremely unlikely.)

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 26, 2014, 02:35:02 PM
Right now seems to be a problem with Arm's provider:

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  Wireless_Broadband_Router.home [192.168.1.1]
  2     8 ms     7 ms     8 ms  L100.WASHDC-VFTTP-61.verizon-gni.net [96.231.199.1]
  3     9 ms     6 ms     7 ms  G0-9-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net [130.81.104.180]
  4     7 ms     7 ms     8 ms  ae2-0.RES-BB-RTR2.verizon-gni.net [130.81.199.138]
  5     8 ms     8 ms     8 ms  0.ae2.BR3.IAD8.ALTER.NET [152.63.7.221]
  6     9 ms     7 ms     8 ms  204.255.168.226
  7    22 ms    22 ms    23 ms  207.88.14.170.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.170]
  8    17 ms    23 ms    18 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.0.18]
  9    17 ms    15 ms    16 ms  207.239.51.86
10    15 ms    16 ms    16 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
11     *        *        *     Request timed out.
12     *        *        *     Request timed out.
13     *        *        *     Request timed out.
14     *        *       18 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]


Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
Seems to start for both the GDB and the game at around 9:30 central time. Then the game basically becomes unplayable for anything but tavern sitting. Trace route is still clean, even during the spikes. No other websites or games are affected. Seems to be Armageddon specific.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on March 27, 2014, 12:13:16 AM
I get this too. Dman. It's not just you.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 27, 2014, 10:09:50 AM
Please note this was not an issue until the last week or so to my knowledge. So whatever changed in the last week to two weeks is probably our culprit.

Is it possible that our "host" or whatever for www.armageddon.org is throttling us down during their peak times to save bandwidth or something? (I probably slaughtered that, but you know what I am saying.)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 27, 2014, 10:11:57 PM
Well, it's 9PM, let the lag begin again.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 27, 2014, 10:15:12 PM
Try connecting through a proxy.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
Seriously, if you are lagging and you don't see any latency or packet loss through ping or tracerouting to ginka then its NOT internet related. If it WAS then you would see it with those utilities. Routing through a proxy will only increase the problem, because if you take the route of free proxies most often times they are SLOW connections.

Now if your not seeing problems on the internet there's only two things left that could be causing it. Either something on the person's PC that's causing a performance issue OR something on Ginka that's causing a performance issue. At 9pm server time last time I was NOT lagging. If others in the same area as you were lagging then I would suggest sending in a bug showing all the utilities showing that the internet wasn't having problems. Show that you tried and had problems with logging running and not running so that your computer's hard drive is defragged. Show that you rebooted your computer and/or restarted your client and then have others do the same thing and send in bug reports as well. Its possible that something in the code in the specific area is running at a specific time that's causing a lag. But I would suspect that other's on the server even if they are in another part of the game would experience lag as well.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
Seriously, if you are lagging and you don't see any latency or packet loss through ping or tracerouting to ginka then its NOT internet related. If it WAS then you would see it with those utilities. Routing through a proxy will only increase the problem, because if you take the route of free proxies most often times they are SLOW connections.

Relax, the guy is just trying to help. Seriously.

Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
Now if your not seeing problems on the internet there's only two things left that could be causing it. Either something on the person's PC that's causing a performance issue OR something on Ginka that's causing a performance issue.

My wife and I both play Armageddon. Two separate PC's obviously. Both of us experience this lag. Interestingly enough, we don't both experience it at the exact same time (though sometimes we do.) This rules out the possibility it is a machine issue. Because we both don't experience it at the same time, but we are both running through the same router and connection, this likely wipes out the possibility of a connection issue or router issue.

I also play with a large group of people. When in said large group, about half of the people in the group have confirmed they are experiencing the same lag as myself at the same times. The other half have zero lag. This again confirms this isn't a "Desertman's computer/connection" issue.

It is something larger.

I also experience GDB lag at the exact same time. So this isn't a game client issue. This has something to do with the server/host (not sure what term I'm shooting for here) that runs Armageddon as a whole. It affects both the game and the GDB at the same times.

No other games or websites I play/visit during these times are affected.

Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
At 9pm server time last time I was NOT lagging. If others in the same area as you were lagging then I would suggest sending in a bug showing all the utilities showing that the internet wasn't having problems. Show that you tried and had problems with logging running and not running so that your computer's hard drive is defragged.

Taken care of above.

Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
Show that you rebooted your computer and/or restarted your client and then have others do the same thing and send in bug reports as well.

Taken care of above.

Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 09:59:38 AM
It's possible that something in the code in the specific area is running at a specific time that's causing a lag. But I would suspect that other's on the server even if they are in another part of the game would experience lag as well.

I'm not sure about this. We do tend to play in roughly the same areas, but when we travel it doesn't seem to help it/make it worse. It just stays about the same.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 10:32:53 AM
DessertMan - I suggest that you download and install MTR (My Trace Route) On your computer. This is a more accurate diagnostic tool for internet troubleshooting. It does a constant ping to each hop on a route and gives you the time for the ping as well as any packet loss for each ping. This runs continuously until stopped. There might be something small going on that's enough to cause lag, but not enough to cause it to appear on a traceroute or a normal ping. If that doesn't show anything then truly I don't know what's causing the problems. I would have staff further investigate and see if something is running in the code that's causing the lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 10:39:11 AM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 10:32:53 AM
DessertMan - I suggest that you download and install MTR (My Trace Route) On your computer. This is a more accurate diagnostic tool for internet troubleshooting. It does a constant ping to each hop on a route and gives you the time for the ping as well as any packet loss for each ping. This runs continuously until stopped. There might be something small going on that's enough to cause lag, but not enough to cause it to appear on a traceroute or a normal ping. If that doesn't show anything then truly I don't know what's causing the problems. I would have staff further investigate and see if something is running in the code that's causing the lag.

Will do. Thanks.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 10:52:53 AM
Let me know what you find out. I'll try to help out more if I can.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 12:10:56 AMBut yeah, it seems to be affecting about 50% of the player base.

Where are you pulling this number from?

We are happy to look into things affecting the connection to the game (we've moved servers with our provider before because of that, in fact), but we're not going to take your word for it that half of the player base is affected by something.  As before when issues have occurred, we need specific details about times, length of occurrence, traceroutes, etc.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 12:10:56 AMBut yeah, it seems to be affecting about 50% of the player base.

Where are you pulling this number from?

We are happy to look into things affecting the connection to the game (we've moved servers with our provider before because of that, in fact), but we're not going to take your word for it that half of the player base is affected by something.  As before when issues have occurred, we need specific details about times, length of occurrence, traceroutes, etc.

Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
I also play with a large group of people. When in said large group, about half of the people in the group have confirmed they are experiencing the same lag as myself at the same times.


Though to be fair, I could just be playing with a lot of the "laggers" by coincidence, I guess.

I have ran the trace routes repeatedly over the last few days and they all come back spotless. But I will run them again tonight if the lag persists and post the results here for you. (I just didn't post them before because they did come back clean every single time.)

I have watched the clock the last few nights and it starts to happen right around 9PM central time. Before that time, I have zero lag (along with the wife) and I notice zero lag among the group I play with. After this time, that changes.

The spurts of lag last for about fifteen to twenty seconds, then the game will run smoothly for about thirty seconds...rinse and repeat until you are forced to rage quit. After this time the GDB also loads extremely slowly, or not at all, or only partially, whereas before this time, it runs perfectly, all day long.

I usually give up at around 10:30, but I can confirm it happens up until that time anyways.



Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on March 28, 2014, 11:18:01 AM
I would suggest posting MTR results its more useful than traceroutes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
I also play with a large group of people. When in said large group, about half of the people in the group have confirmed they are experiencing the same lag as myself at the same times.


Though to be fair, I could just be playing with a lot of the "laggers" by coincidence, I guess.

Or you could all be playing from the same area of the country, or you could all be routed through the same server that (at some point) is the bottleneck.  It's anecdotal and not very helpful for analyzing a larger issue.

Quote
I have ran the trace routes repeatedly over the last few days and they all come back spotless. But I will run them again tonight if the lag persists and post the results here for you. (I just didn't post them before because they did come back clean every single time.)

What do you mean by "spotless"?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 28, 2014, 11:25:26 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:03:13 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 26, 2014, 12:10:56 AMBut yeah, it seems to be affecting about 50% of the player base.

Where are you pulling this number from?

We are happy to look into things affecting the connection to the game (we've moved servers with our provider before because of that, in fact), but we're not going to take your word for it that half of the player base is affected by something. 

I don't know about -HIS- word about it. But when I'm in-game and see this happen yes I'd say that yes, around half the people I'm playing with are complaining about lag, or getting dropped and reconnected. It's obviously a large portion of the playerbase that gets effected. I'm not sure if it's 50% maybe it's only 25% but god damn that's still a fuck-ton of players and it's happening to them all at the same time.

Considering we get this sort of issue every couple months, I'd say it's probably part of a larger problem.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 10:11:29 AM
I also play with a large group of people. When in said large group, about half of the people in the group have confirmed they are experiencing the same lag as myself at the same times.


Though to be fair, I could just be playing with a lot of the "laggers" by coincidence, I guess.

Or you could all be playing from the same area of the country, or you could all be routed through the same server that (at some point) is the bottleneck.  It's anecdotal and not very helpful for analyzing a larger issue.

Quote

I have ran the trace routes repeatedly over the last few days and they all come back spotless. But I will run them again tonight if the lag persists and post the results here for you. (I just didn't post them before because they did come back clean every single time.)

What do you mean by "spotless"?

All of the hops on my trace route come back reflecting acceptable round trip times and none of them time out. They all reflect around 80 or below ms. (If this isn't actually good let me know. I assumed this was good based on what I've seen in the past.)

To amend my previous post, it happens to around 50% of the people I play with, for reasons I can not confirm unfortunately. I'm sorry that isn't more helpful.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
Data, please, not stories.  Thanks.  Enough of it and we can look at addressing whatever the problem might be.

Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
What do you mean by "spotless"?

All of the hops on my trace route come back reflecting acceptable round trip times and none of them time out. They all reflect around 80 or below ms. (If this isn't actually good let me know. I assumed this was good based on what I've seen in the past.)

Post them anyway when there are problems.  The point is not to find out if you're timing out somewhere--the point is to have data points from many people so that we can determine where the problem lies.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:31:50 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:30:25 AM
Data, please, not stories.  Thanks.  Enough of it and we can look at addressing whatever the problem might be.

Quote from: Desertman on March 28, 2014, 11:26:28 AM
Quote from: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:21:03 AM
What do you mean by "spotless"?

All of the hops on my trace route come back reflecting acceptable round trip times and none of them time out. They all reflect around 80 or below ms. (If this isn't actually good let me know. I assumed this was good based on what I've seen in the past.)

Post them anyway when there are problems.  The point is not to find out if you're timing out somewhere--the point is to have data points from many people so that we can determine where the problem lies.

Yerp, I will take care of it tonight. I plan to run my trace route and post results for before and after 9pm when it generally starts so you guys can make comparisons, or whatever. (I'm assuming that might be helpful?)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 28, 2014, 11:35:54 AM
Not having any problem with lag when others say they are this time.

Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  192.168.0.1
 2    30 ms    81 ms   153 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
 3    27 ms    26 ms    27 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
 4    40 ms    39 ms    39 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
 5    58 ms    38 ms    40 ms  63.146.26.150
 6   106 ms   134 ms   107 ms  207.88.14.217.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.217]
 7   112 ms   107 ms   107 ms  vb15.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.45]
 8   108 ms   109 ms   116 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]
 9   108 ms   106 ms   107 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.2.10]
10   104 ms   104 ms   105 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   104 ms   148 ms   102 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   106 ms   104 ms   110 ms  207.239.51.86
13   106 ms   105 ms   105 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14   104 ms   104 ms   109 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15   104 ms   104 ms   104 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on March 28, 2014, 11:42:48 AM
Brief story time to explain why the individual data is necessary: I do this sort of thing at work.  Networking and server engineering is not my area of expertise though I do have a crappy cert there (they'll let anyone that passes that test get one).  I've got an issue now where a whole group of people claim there is a networking/server-related problem.  When passed to me, there were no data points to review.  Just "intermittent problem" that "affects some people."  Collecting that data was difficult as it got artificially inflated (people like to make their problem appear bigger than it is so that those who can look at it assume it is bigger than it is).  We'd check back with some individual people and they'd say "I never had the problem".  Well, there is a problem, obviously, but I can't use data that isn't accurate as it would make me overlook a commonality that would otherwise exist (in other words, it can't be THIS answer because Bobby Joe has the problem and his machine is this make/model). 

So...I can't work based on your word about other people, I have to have actual data from them to point to.

What would be helpful to know?

When next you experience this problem, detail:

When it starts
When it ends
How bad is it?
can you get to other websites with no problem?
traceroute or MTR info

What if you aren't experiencing the problem?  If you see that others are posting that they are having an issue (and it's more than just one or two people), do the same thing as them--demonstrate your ability to function by providing traceroute/MTR info.  There may be something different there that would indicate the culprit.

From there we can figure out what's up.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 28, 2014, 11:50:10 AM
I'll be on around the same time DesertMan is later tonight to test this out. We should be able to shine some perspective on both sides of the fence for you then.

But the more people doing this the better. I've been one of the people lagging during a time like this so I know how utterly frustrating it can be, so if you don't like lag but your aren't experiancing it just this second, doesn't mean it might not be a problem for you later, so help out if you can.

HOW TO RUN A TRACE ROUTE

1) Do a search with windows, type in the letters CMD and hit enter. This should bring up your command prompt instantly.
2) In the command Prompt type: Tracert ginka.armageddon.org

You will get something like this:
Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  192.168.0.1
 2    31 ms    27 ms    28 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
 3    48 ms    32 ms    27 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
 4     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 5    43 ms    40 ms    39 ms  63.146.26.150
 6   109 ms   108 ms   106 ms  207.88.14.217.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.217]
 7   110 ms   104 ms   107 ms  vb15.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.45]
 8   113 ms   106 ms   106 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]
 9   106 ms   106 ms   106 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.10]
10   104 ms   106 ms   105 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   103 ms   104 ms   105 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   105 ms   104 ms   104 ms  207.239.51.86
13   106 ms   107 ms   113 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14   105 ms   104 ms   104 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15   108 ms   105 ms   105 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]



Then copy and paste it like this:

1.Open Command Prompt
2.Right-click the title bar of the command prompt window, point to Edit, and then click Mark.
3.Click the beginning of the text you want to copy.
4.Press and hold down the SHIFT key, and then click the end of the text you want to copy (or you can click and drag the cursor to select the text).
5.Right-click the title bar, point to Edit, and then click Copy.
6.Position the cursor where you want the text to be inserted:
•In an MS-DOS-based program, or in a command prompt window, right-click the title bar, point to Edit, and then click Paste.
•In a Windows-based program, click the Edit menu, and then click Paste.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 29, 2014, 01:17:31 AM
Lag started pretty much right at 9pm for regularly scheduled programming. This includes 15 seconds of zero activity at a time for both myself and the wife, not always at the same time though. The GDB was also a cluster fuck. Not other websites showed any signs of lag.

6pm
Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     7 ms     9 ms     9 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     8 ms    21 ms     7 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    36 ms     9 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    16 ms    18 ms    17 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    18 ms    18 ms    16 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    16 ms    14 ms    16 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    57 ms    71 ms    58 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    65 ms    59 ms    59 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    63 ms    58 ms    59 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    49 ms    46 ms    51 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    47 ms    50 ms    48 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    58 ms    49 ms    49 ms  207.239.51.86
16    49 ms    60 ms    50 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    48 ms    49 ms    61 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    51 ms    52 ms    63 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

8pm

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     7 ms     9 ms    20 ms  10.31.32.1
 3   167 ms   201 ms   162 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4     9 ms     9 ms    17 ms  74.51.206.241
 5     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    27 ms    18 ms    15 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    17 ms    19 ms    15 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    17 ms    17 ms    15 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    19 ms    15 ms    17 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    59 ms    59 ms    58 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    56 ms    71 ms    59 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    60 ms    58 ms    70 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    49 ms    49 ms    48 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    50 ms    51 ms    47 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    49 ms    47 ms    50 ms  207.239.51.86
16    58 ms    50 ms    60 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    51 ms    48 ms    48 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    50 ms    50 ms    51 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

9pm

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     7 ms     9 ms     9 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     8 ms    21 ms     7 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4    10 ms     9 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    36 ms     9 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    16 ms    18 ms    17 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    18 ms    18 ms    16 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    16 ms    14 ms    16 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    17 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    57 ms    71 ms    58 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    65 ms    59 ms    59 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    63 ms    58 ms    59 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    49 ms    46 ms    51 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    47 ms    50 ms    48 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    58 ms    49 ms    49 ms  207.239.51.86
16    49 ms    60 ms    50 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    48 ms    49 ms    61 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    51 ms    52 ms    63 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.


9pm


Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    14 ms     8 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    17 ms    28 ms    17 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    16 ms    25 ms    16 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    16 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    76 ms    70 ms    70 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    69 ms    70 ms    70 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    79 ms    69 ms    72 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    78 ms    71 ms    70 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    68 ms    69 ms    68 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    50 ms    51 ms    49 ms  207.239.51.86
16    51 ms    62 ms    52 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    50 ms    49 ms    50 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

9:10

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    14 ms     8 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    17 ms    28 ms    17 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    16 ms    25 ms    16 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    16 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    76 ms    70 ms    70 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    69 ms    70 ms    70 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    79 ms    69 ms    72 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    78 ms    71 ms    70 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    68 ms    69 ms    68 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    50 ms    51 ms    49 ms  207.239.51.86
16    51 ms    62 ms    52 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    50 ms    49 ms    50 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

9:30

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     9 ms     9 ms     8 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    14 ms     8 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    17 ms    28 ms    17 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    16 ms    25 ms    16 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    16 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    17 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    76 ms    70 ms    70 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    69 ms    70 ms    70 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    79 ms    69 ms    72 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    78 ms    71 ms    70 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    68 ms    69 ms    68 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    50 ms    51 ms    49 ms  207.239.51.86
16    51 ms    62 ms    52 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    50 ms    49 ms    50 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.


9:30

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2     8 ms     9 ms     8 ms  10.31.32.1
 3    12 ms     8 ms    10 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4     9 ms    11 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    16 ms     9 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    33 ms    36 ms    27 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    17 ms    17 ms    17 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    15 ms    19 ms    14 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    20 ms    21 ms    17 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    57 ms    70 ms    59 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    72 ms    68 ms    72 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    70 ms    82 ms    58 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    60 ms    61 ms    61 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    59 ms    59 ms    68 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    51 ms    51 ms     *     207.239.51.86
16     *        *       51 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17     *       68 ms    53 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]

18    50 ms    49 ms    49 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.



The lag seemed to be at its absolute worst between 9pm and 10:30pm.


12:20am  (At this point it is lagging a bit again. Even the GDB is being extremely slow to load.)


Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2    18 ms    13 ms     9 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     9 ms     8 ms     9 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4     8 ms     9 ms     9 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    13 ms    11 ms    10 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    17 ms    34 ms    20 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    18 ms    19 ms    22 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    17 ms    18 ms    22 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    16 ms    20 ms    18 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    70 ms    60 ms    58 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    62 ms    57 ms    58 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    69 ms    58 ms    60 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    50 ms    49 ms    52 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    48 ms    49 ms    50 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    51 ms    49 ms    48 ms  207.239.51.86
16    50 ms    52 ms    53 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    65 ms    49 ms    66 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    48 ms    54 ms    53 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on March 29, 2014, 02:53:36 AM
2:50 AM server time.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2     9 ms     9 ms    11 ms  110.187.228.1
  3    13 ms     9 ms     9 ms  182.129.151.189
  4    18 ms    19 ms    19 ms  171.208.202.149
  5    50 ms    55 ms    51 ms  202.97.35.181
  6    51 ms    52 ms    52 ms  202.97.33.150
  7    52 ms    52 ms    53 ms  202.97.60.70
  8   315 ms   348 ms   315 ms  202.97.51.130
  9   271 ms   289 ms   261 ms  202.97.90.78
10   320 ms   313 ms   312 ms  218.30.54.82
11   294 ms   299 ms   298 ms  207.88.14.225.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.225]
12   390 ms   384 ms   388 ms  te-2-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12
.70]
13   287 ms   287 ms   287 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14   376 ms   378 ms   376 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15   505 ms   511 ms   459 ms  207.239.51.86
16   358 ms   309 ms   313 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17   337 ms   337 ms   338 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18   367 ms   366 ms   364 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 29, 2014, 06:03:09 AM
Had a little bit of delay trying to connect, about 20 secs.


Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     5 ms    15 ms     2 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    30 ms    29 ms    27 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
  3    29 ms    28 ms    29 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
  4     *       39 ms    39 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
  5    40 ms    41 ms    38 ms  63.146.26.150
  6   111 ms   106 ms   109 ms  207.88.14.217.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.217]
  7   119 ms   106 ms   106 ms  vb15.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.45]
  8   122 ms   115 ms   118 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]
  9   118 ms   105 ms   106 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.10]
10   105 ms   107 ms   103 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   103 ms   107 ms   105 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   108 ms   104 ms   105 ms  207.239.51.86
13   109 ms   106 ms   108 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14   104 ms   104 ms   106 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15   104 ms   111 ms   104 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on March 29, 2014, 08:27:50 AM
raturcne is routing through China, so that's why he's got a delay. Desertman and RGS are routing through a server from XO Communications, which looks like it's having a little trouble but nothing significant.

My hops jump from 47 to 67 at the last AT&T, and stay over 70 through XO. I have DSL, so I don't expect it to be all that fast. For me, anything over 70 would be questionable. The worst mine is, is 83 at the same 207.88 central office that RGS and Desertman are having problems with.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 31, 2014, 11:03:27 PM
Been lagging since about 8:30 pm, running smooth all day long before that.

Now it is so bad I want to kill kittens. (10pm central currently.)

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
  2    28 ms    30 ms    31 ms  10.31.32.1
  3     8 ms     8 ms    10 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
  4    35 ms    26 ms    31 ms  74.51.206.241
  5    15 ms    15 ms    13 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
  6    39 ms    45 ms    38 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
  7    20 ms    18 ms    30 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
  8    16 ms    17 ms    23 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
  9    35 ms    25 ms    29 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    73 ms    63 ms    97 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    82 ms    55 ms    60 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12   120 ms   102 ms    75 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    50 ms    50 ms    49 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    49 ms    51 ms    51 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    51 ms    53 ms    52 ms  207.239.51.86
16    93 ms    77 ms    79 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    63 ms    62 ms     *     openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18     *       82 ms    75 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on March 31, 2014, 11:35:53 PM
Getting progressively worse. (10:35pm central)

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
 2    11 ms     7 ms    10 ms  10.31.32.1
 3     7 ms    17 ms    36 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
 4    11 ms    10 ms    13 ms  74.51.206.241
 5    10 ms    11 ms    11 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
 6    17 ms    16 ms    20 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
 7    19 ms    38 ms    19 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
 8    16 ms    15 ms    17 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
 9    23 ms    21 ms    18 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    50 ms    60 ms    58 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    84 ms    78 ms    67 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12    61 ms    60 ms    57 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13    51 ms    51 ms    50 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    54 ms    48 ms    50 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15     *       76 ms     *     207.239.51.86
16     *       52 ms     *     edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    56 ms     *       59 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    62 ms     *       55 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Rahnevyn on April 01, 2014, 12:54:40 AM
I noticed this for the first time tonight as well. The game wasn't affected for me though, just the request tool.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 01, 2014, 01:03:18 AM
Had a huge spike of lag between 12:30am and 1am server time... MTR showed no latency and no packet loss.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 01, 2014, 09:49:07 AM
I have been having lag for probably a week and a half now. My trace didn't show any packet loss or latency until the last few days actually.

Last night was the worst it has been obviously.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 01, 2014, 08:23:10 PM
Getting worse and worse earlier and earlier. 7:30pm for me today she starts lagging.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
  2     *       54 ms    46 ms  10.31.32.1
  3    43 ms    51 ms    34 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
  4    24 ms    24 ms    18 ms  74.51.206.241
  5    10 ms    11 ms    12 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.
50.202.13]
  6    57 ms     *       19 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
76]
  7    21 ms    23 ms    24 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.
25]
  8    20 ms    36 ms    34 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
1]
  9    25 ms    26 ms    38 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.n
t [129.250.9.158]
10    85 ms    80 ms    81 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    87 ms    77 ms    70 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1

12    81 ms    92 ms    71 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.
2.10]
13    70 ms    72 ms    73 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    72 ms    67 ms    68 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    69 ms    65 ms    54 ms  207.239.51.86
16    59 ms    54 ms    63 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    93 ms    84 ms    78 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    55 ms    55 ms    56 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
  2    52 ms    24 ms    42 ms  10.31.32.1
  3    22 ms    27 ms    23 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
  4    37 ms    39 ms    40 ms  74.51.206.241
  5    45 ms    46 ms    26 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.
50.202.13]
  6    46 ms    50 ms    47 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
76]
  7    56 ms    49 ms    42 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.
25]
  8    35 ms    34 ms    35 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
1]
  9    29 ms    35 ms    24 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.n
t [129.250.9.158]
10    76 ms    83 ms    78 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    81 ms    83 ms    88 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1

12    77 ms    92 ms    75 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.
2.10]
13    88 ms    72 ms    88 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14   114 ms   113 ms    96 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15     *       65 ms     *     207.239.51.86
16    62 ms     *       54 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    53 ms    54 ms    52 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    54 ms    54 ms    58 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on April 01, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
Anyone else?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on April 01, 2014, 08:53:25 PM
  1     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  10.0.0.1
 2     4 ms     4 ms     4 ms  (my computer)
 3    46 ms    45 ms    45 ms  adsl-blah blah att.net
 4    46 ms    44 ms    45 ms  204.60.1.65
 5    47 ms    47 ms    47 ms  12.83.32.254
 6    97 ms    97 ms    98 ms  gar13.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.132.121]
 7    73 ms     *       68 ms  206.111.2.89.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.2.89]
 8    79 ms    83 ms    83 ms  207.88.14.201.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.201]
 9    75 ms    76 ms    75 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.0.18]
10    76 ms    76 ms    76 ms  207.239.51.86
11    76 ms    76 ms    75 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
12    77 ms    76 ms    76 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
13    77 ms    76 ms    76 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

So mine starts before it hits the xo.net central offices. Since I'm on ADSL though, that change in ms is just a tiny blip of delay in the game. My times are pretty much the same no matter where I go on the internet :)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 01, 2014, 10:15:45 PM
Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms     3 ms     2 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    27 ms    39 ms    30 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
  3    27 ms    26 ms    65 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
  4    39 ms    37 ms    43 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
  5    62 ms    59 ms    61 ms  63.146.26.150
  6   135 ms   128 ms   130 ms  207.88.14.217.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.217]
  7   134 ms   130 ms   128 ms  vb15.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.45]
  8   131 ms   130 ms   138 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]
  9   131 ms   130 ms   131 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.10]
10   126 ms   129 ms   124 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   125 ms   126 ms   125 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   106 ms   105 ms   108 ms  207.239.51.86
13   109 ms   106 ms   105 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14   103 ms   103 ms   103 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15   104 ms   105 ms   105 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 02, 2014, 12:06:59 AM
Quote from: Desertman on April 01, 2014, 08:23:10 PM
Getting worse and worse earlier and earlier. 7:30pm for me today she starts lagging.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
  2     *       54 ms    46 ms  10.31.32.1
  3    43 ms    51 ms    34 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
  4    24 ms    24 ms    18 ms  74.51.206.241
  5    10 ms    11 ms    12 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.
50.202.13]
  6    57 ms     *       19 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
76]
  7    21 ms    23 ms    24 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.
25]
  8    20 ms    36 ms    34 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
1]
  9    25 ms    26 ms    38 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.n
t [129.250.9.158]
10    85 ms    80 ms    81 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    87 ms    77 ms    70 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1

12    81 ms    92 ms    71 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.
2.10]
13    70 ms    72 ms    73 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    72 ms    67 ms    68 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    69 ms    65 ms    54 ms  207.239.51.86
16    59 ms    54 ms    63 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    93 ms    84 ms    78 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    55 ms    55 ms    56 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
  2    52 ms    24 ms    42 ms  10.31.32.1
  3    22 ms    27 ms    23 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
  4    37 ms    39 ms    40 ms  74.51.206.241
  5    45 ms    46 ms    26 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.
50.202.13]
  6    46 ms    50 ms    47 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
76]
  7    56 ms    49 ms    42 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.
25]
  8    35 ms    34 ms    35 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.
1]
  9    29 ms    35 ms    24 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.n
t [129.250.9.158]
10    76 ms    83 ms    78 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11    81 ms    83 ms    88 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1

12    77 ms    92 ms    75 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.
2.10]
13    88 ms    72 ms    88 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14   114 ms   113 ms    96 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15     *       65 ms     *     207.239.51.86
16    62 ms     *       54 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    53 ms    54 ms    52 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    54 ms    54 ms    58 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.


I'm a bit confused as to why your first hop is ginka.armageddon.org. Could you explain please?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 02, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
Is it not supposed to be?

All I do is open my command prompt and type "tracert www.armageddon.org"......the machine does the rest.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 02, 2014, 09:21:23 AM
... Desertman... IS GINKA
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 02, 2014, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: Desertman on April 02, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
Is it not supposed to be?

All I do is open my command prompt and type "tracert www.armageddon.org"......the machine does the rest.

No, you should see your routers private IP as the first hop... This is typically a 192.168.x.x address, but could also be a couple others. The it looks your router is set up with the private IP Address of ginka. Which isn't right. Send me a PM if you'd like me to work with you more on finding out what's going on. I think there might be something messed up on your internal network that could be causing problems and its not really something we'll want the whole community to see all the going back and forth. If you PM me I'll give you my AIM so we can chat live time and try to get to the bottom of this. Something is very very wrong if your first hop is showing that as the IP.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 02, 2014, 08:16:29 PM
First time I've been able to get on around this time this week. Not lagging myself but noticing some others are as usual.


Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     2 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
 2    30 ms    27 ms    27 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
 3    38 ms    27 ms    27 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
 4    38 ms    40 ms    46 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
 5    39 ms    38 ms    38 ms  63.146.26.150
 6   127 ms   132 ms   128 ms  207.88.14.217.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.217]
 7   135 ms   131 ms   129 ms  vb15.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.45]
 8   129 ms   130 ms   132 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1

 9   142 ms   130 ms   130 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.
2.10]
10   131 ms   124 ms   127 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   127 ms   122 ms   123 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   104 ms   105 ms   105 ms  207.239.51.86
13   106 ms   106 ms   106 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14   104 ms   103 ms   104 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15   110 ms   105 ms   105 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

Edit: 10:00 PM Server some others were getting lag in game:


Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
 2    32 ms    28 ms    27 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
 3    27 ms    33 ms    27 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
 4     *        *       45 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
 5    57 ms    57 ms    61 ms  63.146.26.150
 6   129 ms   147 ms   131 ms  207.88.14.217.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.217]
 7   134 ms   131 ms   135 ms  vb15.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net [207.88.12.45]
 8   188 ms   139 ms   132 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]
 9   132 ms   185 ms   128 ms  te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.10]
10   122 ms   124 ms   149 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   124 ms   126 ms   133 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   139 ms   130 ms   137 ms  207.239.51.86
13   105 ms   109 ms   108 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14   112 ms   104 ms   103 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15   104 ms   113 ms   104 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.



Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FantasyWriter on April 03, 2014, 12:25:49 AM
I haven't been able to log in in a couple days.
Most of the time can't even get the mantis head to load.
I have my ISP looking at the problem on this end, but they are all morons, damn small town monopolies.


Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms     1 ms  10.10.10.1
  2   256 ms   279 ms   309 ms  mlx4.fultontelephone.net [66.211.112.1]
  3   246 ms   301 ms   237 ms  12.119.41.21
  4   282 ms   269 ms   279 ms  cr2.nsvtn.ip.att.net [12.122.148.134]
  5   310 ms   351 ms   286 ms  cr1.nsvtn.ip.att.net [12.122.148.45]
  6   299 ms   310 ms   330 ms  cr2.attga.ip.att.net [12.122.28.105]
  7   309 ms   335 ms   349 ms  attga04jt.ip.att.net [12.122.84.149]
  8   149 ms   141 ms   128 ms  67.111.23.89.ptr.us.xo.net [67.111.23.89]
  9    73 ms    82 ms    82 ms  vb2002.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.13.1
62]
10   321 ms   336 ms   317 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
11   209 ms   147 ms    70 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
12   204 ms   185 ms   211 ms  207.239.51.86
13   180 ms   225 ms   212 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
14     *      252 ms   234 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
15     *      281 ms   339 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 10:05:48 AM
For reference my traces every single night are basically the same. I stopped posting them. I can keep going if you want me to, but it is basically the same data repeatedly, just starting earlier in the night and worse.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 03, 2014, 10:23:48 AM
Just out of curiosity what does a traceroute to www.google.com show for you DMan?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 11:13:46 AM
For reference we still only have two people that have mentioned having problems during this time/providing any statistics as data points.  That's not really helping make the case that lots of people are having problems, so I'll have to look somewhere else to get information.

An analysis of "reconnection" messages shows that there are more reconnections during peak times than any other time of the day.  However, that increase in reconnections matches up with the increase in the amount of players that we have online during this time, plus we can't correlate all "reconnections" as "this" problem.  For instance, I'm one of those people.  I disconnected and reconnected because my laptop battery died and it's a piece of crap.  Staff members can generally be excluded anyway since they stay logged in and often just disconnect rather than quit out.

The only things I see as noteworthy is that of the people reporting here, two of them reconnect a lot during the times they are logged in.  That would be:

Desertman
racurtne

That holds true for the last several login sessions; racurtne has it way worse off than Desertman.  There are other people that reconnect regularly during the same time periods, but they also reconnect at other times (leading me to think they have issues in general with staying connected).

Still not seeing something that can be held up as the reason for your problem, nor am I seeing anything pointing to a specific problem yet.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on April 03, 2014, 11:42:53 AM
I'll post a couple of more. After checking a few American websites, most have issues with speed in spikes.Arm is much the same. Sometimes it's smooth and then suddenly nothing moves...if it takes around a minute, I generally just disconnect and reconnect. Usually this works, at least for a second or two. Sometimes it appears to fix the problem for a longer duration . This is a random sample. I'm not on Arm. When I get on again, I'll post another the moment I experience issues.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     3 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    21 ms    17 ms    10 ms  110.187.228.1
  3    11 ms   14 ms     9 ms  182.129.151.189
  4    20 ms    19 ms    19 ms  171.208.202.149
  5    55 ms    55 ms    62 ms  202.97.35.181
  6    54 ms    52 ms    59 ms  202.97.34.182
  7    72 ms    67 ms    77 ms  202.97.61.218
  8   223 ms   225 ms   226 ms  202.97.51.134
  9   272 ms   276 ms   278 ms  202.97.50.74
10   337 ms   334 ms   332 ms  218.30.54.10
11   302 ms   299 ms   298 ms  207.88.14.225.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.225]
12   312 ms   315 ms   321 ms  te-2-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12
.70]
13   352 ms   335 ms   326 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14   303 ms   308 ms   305 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15   331 ms   344 ms   346 ms  207.239.51.86
16     *      308 ms   284 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17   347 ms   368 ms   359 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18   337 ms   339 ms   338 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
Well shit, I guess I don't have any option but to wait until whatever changed two weeks ago changes back...or something. Thanks for taking a look anyways.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 03, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
Quote from: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
Well shit, I guess I don't have any option but to wait until whatever changed two weeks ago changes back...or something. Thanks for taking a look anyways.

Well if the thread is any indication, most of these problem aren't actually fixed, only a couple times. They do tend to eventually go away on their own after a couple weeks.

Guess I'll stop tracerouting every time I see multiple people in-game have lag at the same time, it's apparently useless information. Glad it's not me getting issues this time around, I'd be flipping out at the amount of times Nyr's said there doesn't seem to be a problem.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 02:03:23 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 03, 2014, 01:11:25 PM
Guess I'll stop tracerouting every time I see multiple people in-game have lag at the same time, it's apparently useless information.

Your anecdotal data about multiple people in-game having lag at the same time isn't that useful if it isn't accompanied by said people also presenting traceroute information or any other indication about their problem.  I already went over this before, we need more people involved than just two or three people vocal enough to mention anything about it.

Even when I go back and look at your data you're artificially inflating it.

Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 02, 2014, 08:16:29 PM
First time I've been able to get on around this time this week. Not lagging myself but noticing some others are as usual.

At approximately this time in game, one person around you mentioned lag and you put this traceroute up.  Not some others, one person.

Quote
Edit: 10:00 PM Server some others were getting lag in game:

Correction, two other people were getting lag in game that actually mentioned it around you at this time.  One was on the same IP as the previous person that had an issue, the other was at a different IP/different ISP.

Quote
Glad it's not me getting issues this time around, I'd be flipping out at the amount of times Nyr's said there doesn't seem to be a problem.

Getting data is key to troubleshooting.  There's a limit to how much we can assess without information.  Did I say there doesn't seem to be a problem?  No, I said there doesn't seem to be something pointing to the cause of Desertman's (or these other players that haven't mentioned anything) problem.  There aren't enough data points to find out commonalities or differences between Desertman (having issues) and others.  Racurtne has a different issue.  FantasyWriter has a different issue.

One thing I can think of is to eliminate the ISP as a root cause, if possible, but that's difficult to do.  Simpler might be eliminating the home connection as the root cause...though that's still a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 03, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
Eh, you're right. I'm just still bitter over the last time this happened to me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 03:09:27 PM
Well, since it appears to be only me, does anyone have any recommendations for anything I can do to try and cure the issue?

I am not going to pretend I have any clue about what is happening. I just know it started two weeks ago, didn't exist before then, and seems to start at 7PM central time, but does not exist in any fashion before that time. It also only exists when interacting with www.armageddon.org (to include the game directly and the GDB). No other website or game I visit during this time is affected in any way.

That is what I know.

Oh, it also affects my wife. We play from the same IP, obviously. Strangely enough when I am lagging she isn't always lagging and sometimes when she is lagging, I'm not lagging. She will freeze for twenty seconds, and I will be running fine, and sometimes she is running fine and I am freezing for twenty seconds at a time. Sometimes we both freeze at the same time. I'm not sure if that means anything.

Any help is appreciated.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
Do you ever play from anywhere but your house during those times you experience lag?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
Do you ever play from anywhere but your house during those times you experience lag?

No but I can try that probably if you think it would provide useful info.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
Do you ever play from anywhere but your house during those times you experience lag?

No but I can try that probably if you think it would provide useful info.

If you were able to do so, it would provide some relevant information.

If the problem goes away, it is likely something isolated to your internet service at home (whether that be your ISP, your router, or modem).
If the problem persists, traceroutes will tell us how your packets are trying to get to ginka and back.

Ideally we'd get some traceroutes from anyone else that is persistently having this problem (not your wife, though--sorry, she's great and all, but you're at the same place).
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 04:16:35 PM
Quote from: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 03:25:34 PM
Quote from: Desertman on April 03, 2014, 03:21:13 PM
Quote from: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 03:18:33 PM
Do you ever play from anywhere but your house during those times you experience lag?

No but I can try that probably if you think it would provide useful info.

If you were able to do so, it would provide some relevant information.

If the problem goes away, it is likely something isolated to your internet service at home (whether that be your ISP, your router, or modem).
If the problem persists, traceroutes will tell us how your packets are trying to get to ginka and back.

Ideally we'd get some traceroutes from anyone else that is persistently having this problem (not your wife, though--sorry, she's great and all, but you're at the same place).

I'm on it.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nyr on April 03, 2014, 06:15:37 PM
I was looking at this earlier but did not have time to post about it. The only other clear thing to note is that your provider sends your traffic through NTT to get to XO. If this is more widespread than you then I would make the assumption that the NTT to XO link is shit at that time...for anyone else making that hop.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on April 03, 2014, 09:51:23 PM
I have some new info. I caught it while it was lagging. The first bit is when the gdb wasn't loading properly. During the second, it was a little better.

C:\Users\Rush>Tracert ginka.armageddon.org

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
 2    10 ms    10 ms     9 ms  110.187.228.1
 3    14 ms    18 ms     9 ms  182.129.151.185
 4    21 ms    19 ms    22 ms  171.208.202.77
 5    51 ms    56 ms    51 ms  202.97.43.153
 6     *       51 ms    50 ms  202.97.34.114
 7    53 ms    51 ms    52 ms  202.97.60.197
 8   225 ms   227 ms   227 ms  202.97.58.218
 9   204 ms   206 ms   208 ms  202.97.90.134
10   216 ms   216 ms   215 ms  206.111.14.113
11   309 ms   298 ms   299 ms  207.88.13.82.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.13.82]
12   279 ms   281 ms   279 ms  207.88.12.85
13   288 ms   285 ms   287 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.chicago-il.us.xo.net [207.88.12.21
]
14   283 ms   287 ms   287 ms  vb24.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.34]

15   287 ms   287 ms   287 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
16   295 ms   302 ms   305 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
17   323 ms   322 ms   319 ms  207.239.51.86
18   283 ms   274 ms   274 ms  66.45.224.182
19   312 ms   311 ms     *     199.231.184.130
20   284 ms   285 ms   284 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Rush>Tracert ginka.armageddon.org

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
 2    12 ms    16 ms     9 ms  110.187.228.1
 3    13 ms    10 ms    11 ms  182.129.151.185
 4    31 ms    23 ms    22 ms  171.208.202.77
 5    54 ms    56 ms    52 ms  202.97.43.153
 6    50 ms    67 ms    51 ms  202.97.34.114
 7    51 ms    51 ms    55 ms  202.97.60.197
 8   224 ms   226 ms   226 ms  202.97.58.218
 9   208 ms   207 ms   206 ms  202.97.90.134
10   268 ms   216 ms   216 ms  206.111.14.113.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.14.113]
11   309 ms   299 ms   298 ms  207.88.13.82.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.13.82]
12   310 ms   278 ms   278 ms  te0-5-4-0.rar3.denver-co.us.xo.net [207.88.12.85
]
13   284 ms   292 ms   283 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.chicago-il.us.xo.net [207.88.12.21
]
14   289 ms   287 ms   287 ms  vb24.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.34]

15   289 ms   290 ms   288 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
16   292 ms   291 ms   291 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
17   286 ms   287 ms   285 ms  207.239.51.86
18   274 ms   274 ms   274 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
19   283 ms   280 ms   279 ms  199.231.184.130
20   287 ms   291 ms   311 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

It's just me being in China, isn't it?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on April 03, 2014, 09:58:18 PM
Okay, as I was trying to post I was initially unable to post, so I ran another immediately.
C:\Users\Rush>Tracert ginka.armageddon.org

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
 2    10 ms     9 ms    17 ms  110.187.228.1
 3    10 ms     9 ms    81 ms  182.129.151.185
 4    21 ms    19 ms    19 ms  171.208.202.77
 5    52 ms    55 ms    51 ms  202.97.43.153
 6    50 ms    50 ms    50 ms  202.97.34.114
 7    50 ms    52 ms    51 ms  202.97.60.197
 8   228 ms   230 ms   223 ms  202.97.58.218
 9   206 ms   206 ms   205 ms  202.97.90.134
10   216 ms   216 ms   216 ms  206.111.14.113.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.14.113]
11   333 ms   312 ms   310 ms  207.88.13.82.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.13.82]
12   278 ms   282 ms   288 ms  te0-5-4-0.rar3.denver-co.us.xo.net [207.88.12.85
]
13   280 ms   287 ms   289 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.chicago-il.us.xo.net [207.88.12.21
]
14   281 ms   287 ms   288 ms  vb24.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.34]

15   288 ms   287 ms   287 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
16   291 ms   290 ms   291 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
17   286 ms   286 ms   286 ms  207.239.51.86
18   278 ms   274 ms   274 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
19   295 ms   285 ms   283 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
20   281 ms   281 ms   284 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

C:\Users\Rush>Tracert ginka.armageddon.org

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
 2    11 ms     9 ms    12 ms  110.187.228.1
 3    10 ms     9 ms    10 ms  182.129.151.185
 4    22 ms    20 ms    18 ms  171.208.202.77
 5    52 ms    55 ms    55 ms  202.97.43.153
 6    50 ms    50 ms    50 ms  202.97.34.114
 7    52 ms    51 ms    52 ms  202.97.60.197
 8   223 ms   228 ms   230 ms  202.97.58.218
 9   208 ms   208 ms   206 ms  202.97.90.134
10   216 ms   218 ms   216 ms  206.111.14.113.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.14.113]
11   309 ms   298 ms   299 ms  207.88.13.82.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.13.82]
12   282 ms   282 ms   279 ms  te0-5-4-0.rar3.denver-co.us.xo.net [207.88.12.85
]
13   282 ms   283 ms   287 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.chicago-il.us.xo.net [207.88.12.21
]
14   281 ms   286 ms   316 ms  vb24.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.34]

15   288 ms   287 ms   287 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
16   293 ms   291 ms   291 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
17   320 ms   321 ms   321 ms  207.239.51.86
18   299 ms   309 ms   311 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
19   310 ms   305 ms     *     openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
20   319 ms   317 ms   285 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

  1     2 ms     1 ms     1 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    12 ms    11 ms    10 ms  110.187.228.1
  3    43 ms    10 ms    10 ms  182.129.151.185
  4    19 ms    18 ms    21 ms  171.208.202.77
  5    52 ms    54 ms    52 ms  202.97.43.153
  6    50 ms    57 ms    50 ms  202.97.34.114
  7    60 ms    51 ms    51 ms  202.97.60.197
  8   226 ms   224 ms   227 ms  202.97.58.218
  9   206 ms   206 ms   206 ms  202.97.90.134
10   216 ms   216 ms   231 ms  206.111.14.113.ptr.us.xo.net [206.111.14.113]
11   310 ms   298 ms   306 ms  207.88.13.82.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.13.82]
12   283 ms   278 ms   279 ms  te0-5-4-0.rar3.denver-co.us.xo.net [207.88.12.85
]
13   289 ms   284 ms   286 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.chicago-il.us.xo.net [207.88.12.21
]
14   284 ms   303 ms   283 ms  vb24.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.12.34]

15   287 ms   289 ms   288 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
16   290 ms   293 ms   291 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
17   299 ms   299 ms   292 ms  207.239.51.86
18     *      301 ms   279 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
19   277 ms   277 ms   277 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
20     *      281 ms   284 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]


I'll stop posting these for now unless I hit something interesting, but at least I managed to catch it during the problem.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on April 04, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
I don't know if it's "because, China" but that is where the trouble begins - at the China 202.97 servers.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on April 04, 2014, 09:57:03 AM
I like to imagine my internet going through Great Firewall security and being needlessly hassled.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 04, 2014, 09:39:16 PM
Picked up a new modem from the ISP, just incase that might improve the situation.

If there's one thing I like, it's consistency. 8:30PM right on time.

Tracing route to ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
  2    13 ms    16 ms    24 ms  10.31.32.1
  3    27 ms     8 ms    15 ms  ip-173-45-192-1.wavevision.com [173.45.192.1]
  4    17 ms    12 ms    13 ms  74.51.206.241
  5     9 ms    12 ms     9 ms  xe-0-0-0-3.r05.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.2
50.202.13]
  6    19 ms    17 ms    16 ms  ae-1.r04.hstntx01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
76]
  7    24 ms    40 ms    28 ms  ae-9.r20.dllstx09.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.5.2
25]
  8    50 ms    40 ms    37 ms  ae-1.r01.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net [129.250.2.1
1]
  9     *       69 ms    68 ms  ae-0.xo-communications.dllstx04.us.bb.gin.ntt.ne
t [129.250.9.158]
10    99 ms   104 ms    95 ms  207.88.14.242.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.242]
11   100 ms    95 ms   105 ms  te-4-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.1]

12   108 ms   108 ms     *     te-11-0-0.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net [207.88.1
2.10]
13   152 ms   108 ms    90 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
14    91 ms    86 ms   100 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
15    79 ms    79 ms     *     207.239.51.86
16    88 ms    67 ms    79 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
17    77 ms    89 ms    69 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
18    79 ms    75 ms     *     ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
19    67 ms     *       82 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 05, 2014, 02:12:01 AM
I still don't get why your first hop is ginka.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FantasyWriter on April 05, 2014, 02:20:32 AM
His wife is the living incarnation of Ginka.
Oh shit, was that suppose to be a secret?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on April 05, 2014, 07:01:28 PM
Just got D/Ced.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 05, 2014, 07:02:38 PM
Yeah, I think we all did.

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on April 05, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Armageddon last booted 5 minutes and 12 seconds ago.

Okay don't everyone rush to the NPC merchants now!  ::)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 05, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
Quote from: Lizzie on April 05, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Armageddon last booted 5 minutes and 12 seconds ago.

Okay don't everyone rush to the NPC merchants now!  ::)

Thanks for letting everyone know so that they do.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 05, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on April 05, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
Quote from: Lizzie on April 05, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Armageddon last booted 5 minutes and 12 seconds ago.

Okay don't everyone rush to the NPC merchants now!  ::)

Thanks for letting everyone know so that they do.

Trust me on this. They already knew.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 06, 2014, 12:33:56 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 05, 2014, 11:42:38 PM
Quote from: slvrmoontiger on April 05, 2014, 10:41:33 PM
Quote from: Lizzie on April 05, 2014, 07:07:27 PM
Armageddon last booted 5 minutes and 12 seconds ago.

Okay don't everyone rush to the NPC merchants now!  ::)

Thanks for letting everyone know so that they do.

Trust me on this. They already knew.

Oh I know they did I was just teasing.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on April 08, 2014, 08:52:49 PM
I've been getting an awful slowing in the text received for like, a day or two now, anyone else?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 08, 2014, 09:17:41 PM
I've notice a couple very brief pieces of lag that could have very well just been my connection.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: FantasyWriter on April 08, 2014, 09:33:43 PM
I can watch netflix but not play arm... wtf? :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Zoan on April 09, 2014, 02:10:41 AM
That happens to me - can do everything but torrent. Torrent or steam downloads slow me to a crawl. It's probably something to do with my new router.

On the plus side my Diablo 3 games don't lock up and spamminate any more. Much.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Desertman on April 09, 2014, 11:26:42 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on April 08, 2014, 08:52:49 PM
I've been getting an awful slowing in the text received for like, a day or two now, anyone else?

This is my problem.

I've decided that this simply has to do with a certain hop I am hitting getting VERY busy during peak times, as I am only affected during peak times it seems.

The newest greatest pron site must have just went up in the last couple of weeks and one of my hops apparently is a hot stopping place along the way to it.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Zoan on April 09, 2014, 07:19:34 PM
murdercorrputionbetrayalporn.co.nk
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 15, 2014, 09:47:03 PM
Lagging off and on all day.


Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     2 ms     7 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
  2    76 ms    37 ms    33 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
  3    32 ms    32 ms    68 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
  4     *       47 ms    49 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
  5    63 ms    53 ms    58 ms  63.146.26.150
  6   164 ms   132 ms   133 ms  207.88.14.214.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.214]
  7   130 ms   132 ms   149 ms  207.88.12.131.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.131]
  8   139 ms   133 ms   131 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.12
9]
  9   137 ms   135 ms   130 ms  207.88.12.132.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.132]
10   145 ms   131 ms   135 ms  207.88.12.135.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.135]
11   141 ms   131 ms   130 ms  207.88.12.105.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.105]
12   132 ms   131 ms   130 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.0.18]
13   109 ms   140 ms   107 ms  207.239.51.86
14   203 ms     *      197 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
15   200 ms   199 ms   200 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
16   110 ms   116 ms   164 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: ThisIsAnAlias on April 15, 2014, 10:29:19 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on April 15, 2014, 09:47:03 PM
Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

 1     2 ms     7 ms     1 ms  192.168.0.1
 2    76 ms    37 ms    33 ms  phnx-dsl-gw69.phnx.qwest.net [67.40.227.69]
 3    32 ms    32 ms    68 ms  phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net [75.160.238.33]
 4     *       47 ms    49 ms  los-brdr-01.inet.qwest.net [67.14.102.30]
 5    63 ms    53 ms    58 ms  63.146.26.150
 6   164 ms   132 ms   133 ms  207.88.14.214.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.214]
 7   130 ms   132 ms   149 ms  207.88.12.131.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.131]
 8   139 ms   133 ms   131 ms  te-4-1-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net [207.88.12.12
9]
 9   137 ms   135 ms   130 ms  207.88.12.132.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.132]
10   145 ms   131 ms   135 ms  207.88.12.135.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.135]
11   141 ms   131 ms   130 ms  207.88.12.105.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.105]
12   132 ms   131 ms   130 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.0.18]
13   109 ms   140 ms   107 ms  207.239.51.86
14   203 ms     *      197 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
15   200 ms   199 ms   200 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
16   110 ms   116 ms   164 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

I do not lag. You can also see I'm routing through XO differently:
10  207.88.13.14.ptr.us.xo.net (207.88.13.14)  42.799 ms  49.767 ms  49.703 ms
11  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net (216.156.0.22)  41.799 ms  41.206 ms  40.886 ms
12  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net (216.156.1.9)  40.751 ms  41.204 ms  40.920 ms
13  207.239.51.86 (207.239.51.86)  40.552 ms  40.626 ms  40.038 ms
14  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net (66.45.224.182)  47.925 ms  41.126 ms  39.528 ms
15  openvz28.interserver.net (199.231.184.130)  50.860 ms  40.330 ms  47.128 ms
16  ginka.armageddon.org (206.72.201.199)  39.398 ms !Z  41.006 ms !Z  40.188 ms !Z


It's not that different, though. I'm guessing all the people with this issue don't share the same ISP or ISP carrier or something like that. Which would mean if it's a network issue, which it probably is, it almost has to be something with XO?

This is my guess after looking at only 1 traceroute and spending about 30 seconds thinking. I'm sure someone on Staff has done much more digging.

EDIT:
You do notice though, that you and I hit "edge-10" and your response is 203ms and mine is 39.5-47.9, this is a big difference.

Another possible solution is we had a similar issue one time at my company, and it ended up being QoS configuration on a hypervisor. "edge-10" is obviously not on a hypervisor, it's likely a router, but routers also have QoS settings. I still blame XO/Interserver networking configuration somewhere.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on April 16, 2014, 02:06:51 AM
I had problems around that time... Unfortunately I didn't capture anything that looked wrong on MTR, I know of the 6 people in the area with me at least 4 of them had problems.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Saellyn on April 27, 2014, 04:50:58 AM
Now I'm not saying the game crashed on me...

But I can't connect to the game.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: KankWhisperer on April 27, 2014, 04:56:02 AM
Here's hoping I don't starve to death but I can't seem to reach the ip.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: senseofeven on April 27, 2014, 05:18:21 AM
I think arm crashed, can't connect to the ip too. :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Is Friday on May 05, 2014, 09:57:00 PM
Double crash!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manipura on May 08, 2014, 10:41:04 AM
Hrmm.
Did Ginka just have a temper tantrum with me or with everyone?  I got booted and can't connect again...why Ginka?  Why no love?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Fujikoma on May 08, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
Noooooo! My fix!

*twitches*
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Clavis on May 08, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
Quote from: Fujikoma on May 08, 2014, 10:42:24 AM
Noooooo! My fix!

*twitches*

'plug it up, plug it up, plug it up!'
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on May 08, 2014, 11:14:20 AM
There are definitely some internet routing issues going on at the moment.  We are troubleshooting what we can, but the issue does seems outside of the network that is hosting Ginka.  Some people are still connected but many are seeing issues.

We will keep you posted!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on May 08, 2014, 11:25:38 AM
Naturally, after I post it seems to start working again.  Should be good now?!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 28, 2014, 08:31:04 PM
Was there a mini one just 5 minutes or so ago?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Saellyn on September 28, 2014, 08:32:53 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 28, 2014, 08:34:01 PM
Okay, I thought it was just me.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 29, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
There was another major one just 5 minutes ago.  I have no mertics to it though but I think it's from the outages.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Saellyn on September 30, 2014, 06:01:31 AM
This is annoying. DNS needs fixing or something, these lockups are getting stupid.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Saellyn on October 04, 2014, 01:55:02 AM
Game just crash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Saellyn on October 06, 2014, 09:30:25 AM
Dear mother of sweet god what was that lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on October 06, 2014, 09:36:03 AM
It feels like when the game lags the forum lags too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on October 11, 2014, 09:35:16 AM
Is there a lag in game because I'm having a hard time getting the website to load.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Symphony on October 13, 2014, 09:00:23 AM
First time I have encountered some really terrible lag. Appears AT&T backbone leaving Florida, an L3 hop coming off Verizon network, causing a bit of trouble. Argh.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on December 15, 2014, 06:41:18 PM
Did it crash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: yousuff on December 15, 2014, 07:40:24 PM
Quote from: Barsook on December 15, 2014, 06:41:18 PM
Did it crash?
I count 5 crashes today.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: slvrmoontiger on December 15, 2014, 10:29:22 PM
I'm assuming the crashes are the reason there was just a forced shutdown... Hopefully a fix is being put in place. YAY!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 06, 2016, 09:39:05 PM
Sorry for a mega bump, but is ArmMUD lagging?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on March 06, 2016, 09:40:06 PM
Seems so, yeah.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 06, 2016, 09:41:27 PM
Okay, good, I thought it was on my side.

Here is the traceroute if anyone needs it:

svetlana@svetlana-desktop:~$ traceroute armageddon.org 4050
traceroute to armageddon.org (206.72.201.199), 30 hops max, 4050 byte packets
1  unknown (192.168.1.1)  20.651 ms  32.277 ms  39.425 ms
2  cpe-98-28-224-1.cinci.res.rr.com (98.28.224.1)  83.219 ms  109.752 ms  144.355 ms
3  network-024-029-007-209.cinci.rr.com (24.29.7.209)  408.167 ms  408.166 ms  408.163 ms
4  be38.blasohdp01r.midwest.rr.com (65.29.38.116)  243.304 ms  278.050 ms  306.178 ms
5  be28.clmkohpe01r.midwest.rr.com (65.29.1.44)  337.922 ms  357.478 ms  385.534 ms
6  bu-ether25.chctilwc00w-bcr00.tbone.rr.com (107.14.19.16)  426.895 ms  290.747 ms  152.176 ms
7  bu-ether11.chcgildt87w-bcr00.tbone.rr.com (66.109.6.20)  176.147 ms  198.498 ms  238.865 ms
8  0.ae4.pr1.chi10.tbone.rr.com (66.109.1.66)  263.622 ms  45.937 ms  70.196 ms
9  24.27.236.145 (24.27.236.145)  85.096 ms  102.681 ms  114.750 ms
10  ae10.er2.ord7.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.20.145)  139.135 ms  166.830 ms  198.386 ms
11  ae14.cr2.ord2.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.31.69)  220.430 ms  245.659 ms  275.018 ms
12  ae27.cs2.ord2.us.eth.zayo.com (64.125.30.244)  87.408 ms  109.122 ms  119.973 ms
13  ae3.cs2.lga5.us.eth.zayo.com (64.125.29.212)  148.755 ms  171.553 ms  71.365 ms
14  ae27.cr2.lga5.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.30.253)  81.976 ms  92.804 ms  121.715 ms
15  ae8.mpr2.ewr2.us.zip.zayo.com (64.125.20.106)  158.223 ms  176.595 ms  215.388 ms
16  208.184.34.234.IPYX-069067-ZYO.above.net (208.184.34.234)  239.163 ms * *
17  64.20.32.221 (64.20.32.221)  317.862 ms  77.979 ms *
18  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net (66.45.224.182)  211.122 ms  211.114 ms  363.273 ms
19  openvz28.interserver.net (199.231.184.130)  85.622 ms  99.107 ms  121.746 ms
20  ginka.armageddon.org (206.72.201.199)  153.065 ms !X  180.424 ms !X  215.292 ms !X
svetlana@svetlana-desktop:~$ ping armageddon.org 4050
PING 4050 (0.0.15.210) 56(124) bytes of data.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on March 06, 2016, 09:46:25 PM
Blech.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 06, 2016, 09:47:21 PM
I will wait it out.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: JackGibbons on March 06, 2016, 09:52:14 PM
Appears to be done. Also it looks like a CPU/disk thing on the server itself, not a network transmission issue with just certain ISPs, since it affects everyone at once it seems.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vox on March 07, 2016, 04:16:39 AM
There were a few pockets of lag around 12:30am pst and then a complete freeze shortly thereafter.

I wonder if the machine needs to be reset..
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Sedora on March 07, 2016, 04:51:39 AM
A crash would be less stressful. This wasn't a crash, just a sputter and then a complete hang.

Which means the game world is still intact and operating around our respective, un-controllable PCs as far as my understanding goes. Probably the most inconvenient server issue I've dealt with so far.

This could suck badly when I get back in :D
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Inks on March 07, 2016, 05:15:34 AM
^ This.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Kankfly on March 07, 2016, 06:25:33 AM
I regret logging off because I haven't been able to log on since (and that's roughly several hours ago).

Someone fix it. D:
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Inks on March 07, 2016, 07:13:50 AM
I need sleep. Please O merciful Ginka do not consign my PC to die of thirst or hunger.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: The Silence of the Erdlus on March 07, 2016, 07:30:38 AM
I think thirst and hunger stop when you're disconnected now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: JackGibbons on March 07, 2016, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: Sedora on March 07, 2016, 04:51:39 AM
A crash would be less stressful. This wasn't a crash, just a sputter and then a complete hang.

Which means the game world is still intact and operating around our respective, un-controllable PCs as far as my understanding goes. Probably the most inconvenient server issue I've dealt with so far.

This could suck badly when I get back in :D

If I've understood you correctly, you needn't fear that this is the case. When the entire game world is hung, it should stop everything, including hunger/thirst pulses, NPC movement, combat. It's like a giant pause button on everything (see Nessalin's announce). The challenge would be when it suddenly unpauses and you've closed your window. When this happens on SOI, however, the solution is to kill the hung server process and start it up again. This means the world starts empty of PCs again, much like when a crash forces a server process restart (see my sig for the time I was the first one back). It's probably similar here, so think of it like a crash that took hours to come back up: your PC isn't logged in, but you DO reenter the world wherever you left off. Which could be dangerous if you were, for example, skimming with a group buy the pilot hasn't logged back in.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Case on March 07, 2016, 03:24:45 PM
Quote from: JackGibbons on March 07, 2016, 08:29:26 AM
Quote from: Sedora on March 07, 2016, 04:51:39 AM
A crash would be less stressful. This wasn't a crash, just a sputter and then a complete hang.

Which means the game world is still intact and operating around our respective, un-controllable PCs as far as my understanding goes. Probably the most inconvenient server issue I've dealt with so far.

This could suck badly when I get back in :D

If I've understood you correctly, you needn't fear that this is the case. When the entire game world is hung, it should stop everything, including hunger/thirst pulses, NPC movement, combat. It's like a giant pause button on everything (see Nessalin's announce). The challenge would be when it suddenly unpauses and you've closed your window. When this happens on SOI, however, the solution is to kill the hung server process and start it up again. This means the world starts empty of PCs again, much like when a crash forces a server process restart (see my sig for the time I was the first one back). It's probably similar here, so think of it like a crash that took hours to come back up: your PC isn't logged in, but you DO reenter the world wherever you left off. Which could be dangerous if you were, for example, skimming with a group buy the pilot hasn't logged back in.
Depends if it times to catch up the backlog of ticks or not. Or if it unhangs and then starts running after you've gone to sleep and you accumulate dem hungers.

Also, man, starvation and thirst should have their adverse affects swap. That'd be way more like IRL.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: hyzhenhok on March 09, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
You don't need to fear hunger or thirst in any case. Hunger/thirst stop ticking down whenever you have been inactive for a sufficient amount of time. AFK or disconnected, it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: fourTwenty on March 09, 2016, 06:37:23 PM
Quote from: hyzhenhok on March 09, 2016, 03:34:28 PM
You don't need to fear hunger or thirst in any case. Hunger/thirst stop ticking down whenever you have been inactive for a sufficient amount of time. AFK or disconnected, it doesn't matter.

Really? Pretty sure I've seen LD PCs die to such. Recently in fact.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 16, 2016, 10:51:37 PM
Did anyone get kicked out?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 16, 2016, 10:52:39 PM
Quote from: Barsook on March 16, 2016, 10:51:37 PM
Did anyone get kicked out?
Yes sir, walking down the street and BAM no more ARM
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Armaddict on March 16, 2016, 10:52:51 PM
I did, just now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 16, 2016, 10:53:22 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Armaddict on March 16, 2016, 11:29:34 PM
Stahp.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: MeTekillot on March 23, 2016, 04:16:07 PM
Feel like I'm noticing some.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 23, 2016, 04:26:01 PM
Yeah... Definitely some lag going on right now.  This is, "Your outdoor character will be murdered by that unlucky Mekillot while you stare a a lagged out screen" weather in game... Logging out.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on March 23, 2016, 09:21:20 PM
Lagging badly.

My tracert is showing zero trouble - under 60mps, averaging 35mps, the whole way.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 23, 2016, 09:22:10 PM
Wow, just tried to log in again...literally typed in C accountname password enter.

Waited two minutes, then it connected.

I don't think I'll be able to play tonight like this.  Anyone else getting HORRID lag.

#ThanksMagickerSubguilds
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vwest on March 23, 2016, 09:28:54 PM
It's nuts.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 23, 2016, 09:29:53 PM
Yup, just typed L to look at my room, and it took 2 minutes.

Finding the nearest quit room and I'm outta here!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: racurtne on March 23, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
It is definitely too laggy to play.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on March 23, 2016, 10:09:58 PM
Quote from: racurtne on March 23, 2016, 09:54:01 PM
It is definitely too laggy to play.

Quitters.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Thunkkin on March 23, 2016, 10:10:41 PM
Look at it this way: We now have plenty of time to craft our emotes, thinks, and feels.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 23, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
Quote from: Thunkkin on March 23, 2016, 10:10:41 PM
Look at it this way: We now have plenty of time to craft our emotes, thinks, and feels.
Sadly you will never see them.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Thunkkin on March 23, 2016, 10:38:16 PM
Quote from: Jihelu on March 23, 2016, 10:23:22 PM
Quote from: Thunkkin on March 23, 2016, 10:10:41 PM
Look at it this way: We now have plenty of time to craft our emotes, thinks, and feels.
Sadly you will never see them.

Like most of my solo rp anyway.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 23, 2016, 10:38:31 PM
It's getting better though...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 23, 2016, 10:41:53 PM
IS IT THO
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on March 23, 2016, 10:45:07 PM
And I think it's gone now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vox on March 24, 2016, 12:21:50 AM
Yeah, it's pretty brutal.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Armaddict on March 24, 2016, 12:34:58 AM
Logged in.  Got a few rooms away before making the long and treacherous journey back to the quit room I'd just left.

That was my adventure for the night.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jingo on March 24, 2016, 01:27:03 AM
That one character with a buggy subguild just logged off.

It seems to be lag free now.


I take it all back.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: lostinspace on March 24, 2016, 02:19:44 AM
I use this time to write up songs and jokes for use in game, because I'm terrible at thinking them up on the fly.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 24, 2016, 07:52:07 AM
Still lagging?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on March 24, 2016, 07:54:04 AM
Lag is ginka's way of declaring bedtime, America.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 24, 2016, 07:56:30 AM
I just woke up!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on March 24, 2016, 08:16:33 AM
And Ginka is corrupting you in order for you to be a lazy bastard, yes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 08:33:18 AM
Ya'll fuckers don't understand how hard it is to shop with this much lag.
Or maybe you do.

I want to die.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on March 24, 2016, 08:33:58 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on March 24, 2016, 07:52:07 AM
Still lagging?

find out ic




wat
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 24, 2016, 08:34:55 AM
Quote from: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 08:33:18 AM
Ya'll fuckers don't understand how hard it is to shop with this much lag.
Or maybe you do.

I want to die.
Go try to run from a hostile critter in this lag and wish granted!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 08:37:05 AM
Implying I ever go outside.


Is the lag over? I'm at school right now so I've got seven hours to pray
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 24, 2016, 08:42:22 AM
Quote from: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 08:37:05 AM
Implying I ever go outside.


Is the lag over? I'm at school right now so I've got seven hours to pray
new goal, find Jihelus noble/aide and make it go play outside.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: seidhr on March 24, 2016, 10:09:44 AM
A ticket has been opened with our hosting provider to investigate.  The working theory is that we're sharing resources with a bad neighbor.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on March 24, 2016, 11:01:48 AM
Quote from: seidhr on March 24, 2016, 10:09:44 AM
A ticket has been opened with our hosting provider to investigate.  The working theory is that we're sharing resources with a bad neighbor.

If that was the case, wouldn't we all be showing timed-outs and * * on the tracert? If I have no problem getting to the server, wouldn't it indicate that it's the game itself, and not the server? Here's my tracert:

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

C:\Users\User>tracert armageddon.org

Tracing route to armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     3 ms     4 ms     2 ms  10.0.0.1
  2    14 ms    19 ms    14 ms (redacted)
  3    18 ms    17 ms    21 ms  162-151-216-249-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [
162.151.216.249]
  4    25 ms    24 ms    99 ms  be-91-ar01.chartford.ct.hartford.comcast.net [68
.85.37.181]
  5    27 ms    34 ms    24 ms  he-0-3-0-0-ar01.needham.ma.boston.comcast.net [1
62.151.112.125]
  6    34 ms    33 ms    34 ms  be-7015-cr02.newyork.ny.ibone.comcast.net [68.86
.90.217]
  7    35 ms    39 ms    44 ms  be-10103-cr02.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [68.8
6.85.161]
  8    36 ms    34 ms    34 ms  he-0-14-0-0-pe04.ashburn.va.ibone.comcast.net [6
8.86.88.110]
  9    38 ms    34 ms    34 ms  50.242.151.190
10    43 ms    54 ms    39 ms  207.88.14.166.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.166]
11    46 ms    44 ms    42 ms  207.88.12.98.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.98]
12    49 ms    44 ms    44 ms  ae0d0.mcr1.newark-nj.us.xo.net [216.156.0.22]
13    40 ms    42 ms    46 ms  ae1d0.mcr1.nyc-ny.us.xo.net [216.156.1.9]
14    39 ms    49 ms    39 ms  207.239.51.86
15    40 ms    42 ms    40 ms  edge-10-teb2.us.as19318.net [66.45.224.182]
16    39 ms    38 ms    39 ms  openvz28.interserver.net [199.231.184.130]
17    39 ms    44 ms    44 ms  ginka.armageddon.org [206.72.201.199]

Trace complete.

Granted it's taking a kind of odd route to get from my hard drive to your cloud, but nothing is hanging anywhere, even at the destination.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Giled on March 24, 2016, 11:05:01 AM
Not necessarily. If the neighbor is taxing the VM host, it could affect the server without giving network traffic pause.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on March 24, 2016, 11:14:08 AM
I never did like my neighbor.  >:(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Ath on March 24, 2016, 11:27:14 AM
Yeah, I did a bit of testing already from what I can do, it's not the Network, it's something with the Host as sedhr posted.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Miradus on March 24, 2016, 12:32:21 PM
I forgot about all the complaints about lag and logged on. I started crafting something and 8 minutes later was like, "Why is this taking so long?"
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: seidhr on March 24, 2016, 01:34:13 PM
Apparently the last time we had this issue it was caused by sharing hardware with our neighbor on the Node who was using all the available CPU.  We're all in the same boat, here's to hoping it gets sorted soon.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 01:50:01 PM
is it good yet?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: seidhr on March 24, 2016, 02:48:49 PM
Quote from: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 01:50:01 PM
is it good yet?
Nope.  :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 03:19:42 PM
:'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: whitt on March 24, 2016, 03:22:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtRNg5uSKQ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtRNg5uSKQ0)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lukoyin on March 24, 2016, 03:26:42 PM
Seems to have cleared up! Logged in and did a little moving around, and it seems 100% better.

Ginka saw me post it, and said no.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
Who is this 'lag' and how do I player complaint them
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Majikal on March 24, 2016, 03:38:45 PM
Quote from: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 03:37:22 PM
Who is this 'lag' and how do I player complaint them

Let's just shitmug them.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Harmless on March 24, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
you two posting back to back like that is cracking me up.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 24, 2016, 07:00:22 PM
Has this been addressed or will me logging in simply get my outside character eaten to death?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Jihelu on March 24, 2016, 07:00:49 PM
Quote from: Asmoth on March 24, 2016, 07:00:22 PM
Has this been addressed or will me logging in simply get my outside character eaten to death?

Don't log in
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 24, 2016, 07:01:33 PM
Yeah that's a big negative, two minute lag between typing in account and password.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on March 24, 2016, 07:34:47 PM
MOOers and MUSHers unite! For this is the time where you social interactions may shine! Slowtypers may also rejoice, for everyone's speech comes through on the same line!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 24, 2016, 07:51:12 PM
I love how there's almost 30 of us logged in right now. Just dealing with the lag like it ain't no shit.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Armaddict on March 24, 2016, 07:52:31 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on March 24, 2016, 07:51:12 PM
I love how there's almost 30 of us logged in right now. Just dealing with the lag like it ain't no shit.

I'm a trooper, and not of the Byn variety!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lukoyin on March 24, 2016, 09:09:28 PM
I think we're good?!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Cowboy on March 24, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
I think we are back to normal.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Asmoth on March 25, 2016, 01:53:48 AM
Quote from: Cowboy on March 24, 2016, 09:10:54 PM
I think we are back to normal.
I just got home, you better not be toying with my emotions... Haven't been able to walk more than six rooms in the past two days.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on April 02, 2016, 11:03:04 AM
Frozen in game, but the GDB and main website and old website all loading fine. Anyone else?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: coffeecupambush on April 02, 2016, 11:07:13 AM
Yep. New update borked something, most likely.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 02, 2016, 11:07:37 AM
Quote from: Lizzie on April 02, 2016, 11:03:04 AM
Frozen in game, but the GDB and main website and old website all loading fine. Anyone else?


Yep.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Chettaman on April 02, 2016, 11:08:09 AM
We were never meant to see without others knowing!
You've doomed us all, Laura!!!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Dan on April 02, 2016, 11:10:33 AM
The game was flooded with people spam-looking at each other!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 02, 2016, 11:13:16 AM
Must have been a hiccup.

Everything's fine, now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: coffeecupambush on April 02, 2016, 11:16:09 AM
not really.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 02, 2016, 11:16:37 AM
Quote from: coffeecupambush on April 02, 2016, 11:16:09 AM
not really.

Yeah.  It's stuttering.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nergal on April 02, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
It turns out getting 3000 grains of spice from a crate was not particularly wise. Please hold while it's fixed. - Nergal
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Thunkkin on April 02, 2016, 02:06:10 PM
Quote from: Nergal on April 02, 2016, 11:19:07 AM
It turns out getting 3000 grains of spice from a crate was not particularly wise. Please hold while it's fixed. - Nergal

What was he or she supposed to do? Just smoke the entire crate?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nergal on April 02, 2016, 02:13:47 PM
That's how I fixed it. Phew.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: tinsix on April 05, 2016, 10:00:27 PM
what is happening
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on April 05, 2016, 10:01:01 PM
It's a crash.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: CodeMaster on April 05, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
sorry, tried to get 4000 spices out of my aba
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vox on April 05, 2016, 10:10:48 PM
Quote from: CodeMaster on April 05, 2016, 10:02:15 PM
sorry, tried to get 4000 spices out of my aba

Next time just roll the aba up and give it to Nergal to smoke.

Though speaking of, that's probably how Half-Giants should roll anyway..
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: The Silence of the Erdlus on April 05, 2016, 10:11:45 PM
This is happening for everyone then? Good, because its a pretty sucky time.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Cayuga on April 05, 2016, 10:16:10 PM
When I <redacted> <redacted> so hard it crashed the game.

:o :o :o :o

Sorry!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Norcal on April 05, 2016, 10:47:16 PM
You did it again!!!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Armaddict on April 05, 2016, 10:47:29 PM
Staaaaahp.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on April 07, 2016, 10:26:58 PM
Again?  Who done it this time?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 07, 2016, 10:27:36 PM
Oh, come on!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: TheWanderer on April 07, 2016, 10:28:14 PM
No worries. I blame all of you equally.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on April 07, 2016, 10:36:40 PM
And...we are back!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Kojul on April 07, 2016, 11:53:51 PM
And... gone again.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nauta on April 08, 2016, 12:24:26 AM
Ouch.  It went down hard this time!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: lostinspace on April 08, 2016, 01:03:19 AM
Did the game died?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nauta on April 08, 2016, 01:10:31 AM
No, I think the internet did.  Traceroute couldn't get me very far out, and I reconnected with my cellphone and the game is up.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: coffeecupambush on April 08, 2016, 01:11:11 AM
It's not actually down. There does seem to be an issue with connections (at least from me) Coming from the west coast. Something technical. Computer words.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: lostinspace on April 08, 2016, 01:16:42 AM
I am near Seattle, so west coast problems indeed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on April 08, 2016, 01:19:22 AM
I'm in Oregon, and I can confirm these issues.  Been trying to load the website, and if I use any wifi from around here it wont load, but if I use my phone's internet I can access the website.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Kojul on April 08, 2016, 01:23:42 AM
Have you guys on the west coast tried using the IP to connect as well?

206.72.201.199:4050
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: coffeecupambush on April 08, 2016, 01:27:17 AM
DNS isn't the issue. It's routing.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: lostinspace on April 08, 2016, 01:57:15 AM
Just got in using a socks5 proxy :)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Kojul on April 08, 2016, 02:12:49 AM
Proxy shutdown
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Akariel on April 08, 2016, 03:53:40 AM
How am I supposed to provide murder if I can't get in!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Khorne8 on April 08, 2016, 04:11:51 AM
Can the PCs of the players that got DC'd get vanished from the game world?  They're kind of stuck in limbo.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 21, 2016, 04:53:26 PM
Is it just me, or is this the second time the game has crashed, today?

...third time!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manipura on April 21, 2016, 04:54:12 PM
It is not just you.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Attana on April 21, 2016, 04:54:27 PM
That's it... who's crashing the game?  I know it's not me!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Armaddict on April 21, 2016, 04:56:01 PM
Stahp.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 21, 2016, 04:57:42 PM
Alright, game's up.

I'm not doing anything for the next few minutes, just to make sure it wasn't me somehow.

Edit: Didn't matter, it died before I could finish posting this.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nauta on April 21, 2016, 05:03:28 PM
Ha.  I think that was six in a row.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 21, 2016, 05:24:46 PM
Aaaaand there it goes again.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Vositus on April 21, 2016, 06:58:03 PM
Yikes... that's like number four for me. :-\
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Beethoven on April 21, 2016, 06:59:03 PM
I think I speak for us all when I say:

akjewfkjkfjg
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 21, 2016, 07:00:32 PM
And there goes some stuff I'd rather keep.

The hell is up with the game, today?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on April 21, 2016, 07:18:02 PM
Okay, I give up.  The game is toast, today.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Culinary Critic on April 21, 2016, 07:30:58 PM
On since 0700 server time, AT LEAST a dozen, including hours during the morning hours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLsB6BPE_0Y
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Culinary Critic on April 21, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from staff on the game:

"We're down looking into the recent crashes."

We lurv you!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 12, 2016, 10:39:25 AM
Is anyone having weird d/cs during play or even after log in?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nauta on May 13, 2016, 11:51:30 PM
Bizarre.  10 minutes ago:

There are 46 players currently in the world, other than yourself.

Now:

There are 24 players currently in the world, other than yourself.

Please tell me it was arena!

ETA: And now it's 44.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on May 14, 2016, 12:28:40 AM
Quote from: nauta on May 13, 2016, 11:51:30 PM
Bizarre.  10 minutes ago:

There are 46 players currently in the world, other than yourself.

Now:

There are 24 players currently in the world, other than yourself.

Please tell me it was arena!

ETA: And now it's 44.

Uhh..  I sneezed and broke the server!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 14, 2016, 11:49:10 AM
Game crashed?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: The Warshaper on May 14, 2016, 11:53:58 AM
I was in then checked "time" and it went down.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on May 14, 2016, 11:57:07 AM
It crashed twice and I gave up after the second.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on June 23, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Another crash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on June 23, 2016, 09:55:06 PM
Quick!  To the bazaar!  (don't do it.  seriously.)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: WanderingOoze on June 23, 2016, 09:55:35 PM
 ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: solera on June 25, 2016, 02:25:55 AM
Quote from: Barsook on June 23, 2016, 09:54:03 PM
Another crash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on June 30, 2016, 06:07:55 PM
Did it crash again?  :O
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nauta on June 30, 2016, 06:08:01 PM
zOMG, and I was in the middle of skilling up!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: WanderingOoze on June 30, 2016, 06:08:35 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Beethoven on July 01, 2016, 11:27:13 AM
never mind
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 03, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
This just me, or is it lagging?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Reiloth on July 03, 2016, 04:01:05 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on July 03, 2016, 03:53:22 PM
This just me, or is it lagging?

I think i'm lagging too, just can't tell if it's my ISP or the game. Seems to be the game/GDB.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Miradus on July 03, 2016, 04:03:06 PM
It. Is. Not. Just. You.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RabidMuffins on July 11, 2016, 10:38:16 PM
Who broke it?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: th3kaiser on July 11, 2016, 10:40:04 PM
As everyone suddenly pops up on the helper monitor to check the website. Oh Arm crashes, you never change.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: dravage on July 11, 2016, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: RabidMuffins on July 11, 2016, 10:38:16 PM
Who broke it?

Works fine for me!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Yam on July 13, 2016, 04:04:57 AM
Does anyone else keep crashing?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Clavis on July 13, 2016, 04:11:05 AM
yeah I crashed twice in like five minutes
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: bardlyone on July 13, 2016, 04:39:41 AM
It is now about 30 minutes into literally booting me every 4 seconds or so. Sometimes a little longer, sometimes only when I enter a command. No idea what's going on, but it has been a thing the past few days of massive lag spikes around 3-4 am server time, and around (sure enough) 3 am server time, this is happening. I'm not getting lag spikes, and the game isn't crashing. It's just continuously booting me, sometimes at halfway through the mantis screen, sometimes before I can enter my account name. It's happened dozens of times, if not more, now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: seidhr on July 13, 2016, 04:43:14 AM
The game didn't actually crash, but there appears to have been some network issues that booted everyone off (and repeatedly).  I've been connected for a few minutes now though.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: bardlyone on July 13, 2016, 04:48:35 AM
Quote from: seidhr on July 13, 2016, 04:43:14 AM
The game didn't actually crash, but there appears to have been some network issues that booted everyone off (and repeatedly).  I've been connected for a few minutes now though.

Ah. Thank you, seidhr. I knew it wasn't crashing because I was reconnecting, not connecting to char, but that is good to know if it's actually been up for a few minutes now. :D Time to go see what's happening now.  :D
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 13, 2016, 09:43:08 PM
Who done it this time?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: WanderingOoze on July 13, 2016, 09:43:56 PM
Great timing.... ::)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 13, 2016, 09:44:22 PM
Like aways, it seems.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on July 13, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
They couldn't handle all the kanking!

But it was short lived.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Talia on July 13, 2016, 10:07:59 PM
Quote from: Esadal on July 13, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
They couldn't handle all the kanking!

But it was short lived.

that's what she said
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on July 17, 2016, 11:52:04 AM
Did we just go down?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Gilgamesh on July 22, 2016, 05:09:42 AM
Had some bad lag last night. So did someone else I mentioned it to IG. Anyone else get this? Might be my own connection, but I almost never get lag. And the timing was horrible!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 28, 2016, 09:59:59 PM
Again?!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: th3kaiser on July 28, 2016, 10:02:05 PM
Nope, crash and rollback.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on July 30, 2016, 10:40:48 PM
Le sigh.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: ChibiTama on August 04, 2016, 08:59:05 PM
Anyone else getting some horrible lag today?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on August 04, 2016, 11:03:07 PM
I keep getting disconnected.  Not sure if it's related.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on August 04, 2016, 11:04:33 PM
It's stable for me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BadSkeelz on August 05, 2016, 01:16:45 AM
Only a slight hiccup here and there, nothing really noticeable.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on August 09, 2016, 10:51:14 AM
Move along, there is nothing to see here.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on August 14, 2016, 04:40:54 AM
Uh oh, did I do it again?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on August 26, 2016, 07:14:37 PM
Ness...

or

Quote from: Esadal on August 14, 2016, 04:40:54 AM
Uh oh, did I do it again?

Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on August 26, 2016, 07:18:30 PM
Plugged in the wrong cable to the wrong slot, whoops!

Looks like it's all back up!

Disclaimer:  I do not actually have any access to what happens to the servers.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 01, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
Lag?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manipura on September 01, 2016, 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: Barsook on September 01, 2016, 10:16:04 PM
Lag?

Seems to be fine for me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on September 19, 2016, 08:17:40 PM
*stares at the staff*  What did you do this time?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 05, 2016, 12:11:58 AM
did read/write crash the game again?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 08, 2016, 10:29:03 AM
again with the lag.

this is madness.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Orin on November 08, 2016, 07:46:53 PM
I don't know if it is just me, but the game seems almost unplayable.  My telnet sessions hang and no commands I enter have any echoes back.  I have to disconnect and reconnect to get any further response from ginka.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 09, 2016, 06:01:22 AM
Lag.

Wait no, never mind, just that daily 4:00 AM 2 minute disconnect.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on November 09, 2016, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on November 09, 2016, 06:01:22 AM
Lag.

Wait no, never mind, just that daily 4:00 AM 2 minute disconnect.

Otherwise also known as a daily backup of the database.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 09, 2016, 07:50:08 AM
Quote from: Nathvaan on November 09, 2016, 07:42:03 AM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on November 09, 2016, 06:01:22 AM
Lag.

Wait no, never mind, just that daily 4:00 AM 2 minute disconnect.

Otherwise also known as a daily backup of the database.

I've always wondered and now I know. I actually thought it was something to do with my ISP.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 09, 2016, 11:19:04 PM
Now -that- is some lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on November 09, 2016, 11:37:16 PM
I've been experiencing some pretty awful lag from the game and GDB as well, these last few days.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Bahliker on November 09, 2016, 11:47:37 PM
Seriously. Can I buy you guys an upgrade to a pentium II and a 28k modem? It's 2016 for krathsake.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on November 10, 2016, 12:20:16 AM
Quote from: Bahliker on November 09, 2016, 11:47:37 PM
Seriously. Can I buy you guys an upgrade to a pentium II and a 28k modem? It's 2016 for krathsake.

While I completely understand the frustration you are having, everyone should know, just like your home internet sometimes networks break.  Within about 4 minutes of the issue I had already opened a support ticket with the hosting provider.  I noticed because I was in the middle of working on a large coding project.  In those first four minutes I was verifying where the network was not passing about 75% of the packets and who owned those networks to give the provider as much information as possible.

It is an issue with the ISP even outside of the control of the hosting provider (in this case the issue is with cogent, in a previous case the issue was with Level3).

I work daily with supporting hundreds of network circuits world wide and nearly every day some go down.  It happens.  All of the time. It is out of our control and no amount of pretending that buying 90's technology will solve that.

As of typing this message they seem to have things working better though I have not received an update as to a root cause.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Reiloth on November 10, 2016, 12:30:19 AM
Quote from: Bahliker on November 09, 2016, 11:47:37 PM
Seriously. Can I buy you guys an upgrade to a pentium II and a 28k modem? It's 2016 for krathsake.

Pretty sure Ginka's doing just alright, heh. She's an ancient God, and not a merciful one.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: John on November 10, 2016, 01:07:36 AM

Quote from: Nathvaan on November 10, 2016, 12:20:16 AMIt is an issue with the ISP even outside of the control of the hosting provider (in this case the issue is with cogent, in a previous case the issue was with Level3).

I work daily with supporting hundreds of network circuits world wide and nearly every day some go down.  It happens.  All of the time. It is out of our control
Anecdote time: Last place I worked at had everything in the cloud (I hate the cloud for this reason, but in this case 90% of the workforce were remote so it made sense). A cable directly outside our data center was cut. Took 3 days for the major Telco of the country to fix the damn thing. Nothing we could do. No-one was impressed (can't remember if the business had a DR site. If it didn't, it should have). Stuff happens unfortunately.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on November 10, 2016, 08:12:26 AM
Cogent seems to have problems on the regular though. Almost every time there's lag or an internet fart, the source is Cogent. Are we routing through them because our ISP is the least expensive/most efficient/only one that is in the geographic location of the server? Are we looking into alternatives for the time when our contract is up? (we, meaning Armageddon, the Ginka owner, whoever pays the bills)
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on November 10, 2016, 08:37:02 AM
Quote from: Lizzie on November 10, 2016, 08:12:26 AM
Cogent seems to have problems on the regular though. Almost every time there's lag or an internet fart, the source is Cogent. Are we routing through them because our ISP is the least expensive/most efficient/only one that is in the geographic location of the server? Are we looking into alternatives for the time when our contract is up? (we, meaning Armageddon, the Ginka owner, whoever pays the bills)

Only one of the issues recently was a cogent co issue to my knowledge.  Our provider, one assumes, has multiple connections to the internet since it is a large, hardened datacenter.  We have exactly zero choice in how they route our traffic into their datacenter.  Our only choice would be to potentially move to a new and likely more expensive solution, not because we have a cheap solution but our prices are low because we are grandfathered into a less expensive hosting plan.

The thing about moving providers is that we risk the exact same issue no matter where the game is hosted.  Moving providers would simply be putting our bets that another provider won't have similar issues (and at some point they will).  Also it is good to remember that the connection has been very stable for years.  In the last week there have been two or three times where the connection was pretty much unusable for a period of 30-45min each.  We are guaranteed 99.9% uptime by the provider and can get credits if they don't meet those guarantees but there is the stipulation that it doesn't count against that 99.9% number if it is an internet issue out side of their control.  The only time I remember there being an extended outage was when they received a direct hit from a hurricane and even then the power never went down, the server never went down but all of the connectivity was down because the multiple telcos providing network connectivity had their central office facilities underwater.

As to choosing one's path through the internet ask yourself, do you know how your traffic gets to google.com?  Can you decide to not traverse any Cogent Co networks?  The simple answer is no, unless you have the ability to modify the routing table on Cogent's networks that are advertised out to the internet.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: evilcabbage on November 10, 2016, 01:24:06 PM
the lag doesn't happen often enough to switch providers and generally it's not for a super long time, i just post about it because i get irritated when a mud plays slower than arma 3 online.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on December 16, 2016, 05:33:44 PM
Whoops I did it again!  A sequel.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Reiloth on December 16, 2016, 05:35:18 PM
I quit out -- It's happening with everyone apparently. Give Ginka a second, she's an old fudder dudder!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: WanderingOoze on December 16, 2016, 05:35:26 PM
 :'( Make it stop...
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Patuk on December 16, 2016, 05:35:41 PM
holy shit
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Feco on December 16, 2016, 05:49:50 PM
Is it over?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on December 16, 2016, 05:53:32 PM
I think..  I think it's safe?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Feco on December 16, 2016, 05:54:27 PM
Not for me.  Probably just gonna stay off for a while.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: puella on December 16, 2016, 06:00:33 PM
I think it's not the server crashing, but the internet pipe or whatever going up and down -- when I connect for brief bits, I 'reconnect'.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Mendel on December 16, 2016, 06:14:58 PM
Seems to be still ongoing. I'll get in for a few minutes and then drop again.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: boog on December 16, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
fucking russians
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Bushranger on December 16, 2016, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: boog on December 16, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
fucking russians

Just because you have a hot Russian to occupy yourself with while the game is laggy doesn't mean we all have something else to do boog! :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: boog on December 16, 2016, 06:21:55 PM
Quote from: Bushranger on December 16, 2016, 06:17:14 PM
Quote from: boog on December 16, 2016, 06:15:34 PM
fucking russians

Just because you have a hot Russian to occupy yourself with while the game is laggy doesn't mean we all have something else to do boog! :(

Bushy, I've missed you. <3
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Akaramu on December 16, 2016, 06:33:29 PM
Aaaaah I'm too scared to log in!

...but I should be writing anyway  :-\
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on December 16, 2016, 06:40:35 PM
Quote from: Akaramu on December 16, 2016, 06:33:29 PM
Aaaaah I'm too scared to log in!

...but I should be writing anyway  :-\

Do iiit!  It's stable-ish for me!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Akaramu on December 16, 2016, 06:53:45 PM
Quote from: Esadal on December 16, 2016, 06:40:35 PM

Do iiit!  It's stable-ish for me!

But... writing!  :'(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Barsook on December 16, 2016, 08:34:51 PM
Crash?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 16, 2016, 08:57:25 PM
Shit...

This hurts me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: BadSkeelz on December 16, 2016, 09:09:36 PM
Haha I was going to log in tonight
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: LauraMars on December 16, 2016, 10:26:37 PM
is the lag still bad?

I only have enough in my mana bar to play on the weekends so I don't wanna waste it.

edit: seems ok
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: WanderingOoze on January 16, 2017, 12:06:06 PM
Anyone else having issues?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Insigne on January 16, 2017, 12:07:01 PM
Quote from: WanderingOoze on January 16, 2017, 12:06:06 PM
Anyone else having issues?
Yep!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on January 16, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
If this keeps up I might actually have to do WORK while at work.

Don't make me do it, Ginka.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Pale Horse on January 16, 2017, 12:11:39 PM
New code!

New features!

New "features!"
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on January 16, 2017, 12:12:26 PM
Quote from: Pale Horse on January 16, 2017, 12:11:39 PM
New code!

New features!

New "features!"

Its not a bug! Its an unintended feature!
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Feco on January 16, 2017, 12:24:49 PM
Quote from: Riev on January 16, 2017, 12:11:06 PM
If this keeps up I might actually have to do WORK while at work.

Don't make me do it, Ginka.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: sleepyhead on January 16, 2017, 12:36:31 PM
EDIT: back up for now.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nessalin on January 16, 2017, 12:52:11 PM
Game is back up.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Reiloth on January 16, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: nessalin on January 16, 2017, 12:52:11 PM
Game is back up.

Another Ginka Fart. Game appears to be down.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on January 16, 2017, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: Reiloth on January 16, 2017, 09:23:38 PM
Quote from: nessalin on January 16, 2017, 12:52:11 PM
Game is back up.

Another Ginka Fart. Game appears to be down.

Ginka's farts are scary, but it came right back on for me.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Lizzie on January 16, 2017, 09:41:32 PM
I know the game's been reset a couple times in the past couple days - but I've also been experiencing a lot of lag within the past couple of weeks. I keep thinking it's my computer (since it's old), but it's lagging even when my hard drive isn't whining like a little bitch (which it does, often). It's definitely not my connection - my internet speed is faster than my Pentium processor is capable of handling, and I used to be able to connect just fine back when I used to have a Hayes 5600-baud modem.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Reiloth on January 16, 2017, 09:45:56 PM
I'm getting this weird thing more frequently, where I type 'psi something something' and nothing happens, like as if I didn't hit 'enter'. But I definitely did. And I have to do it again. Luckily i'm not playing a combat role or something here it's more prominently needed to send a command at the perfect moment, but it's been weird.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: bardlyone on January 16, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
That does sound weird. I've noticed around 4 am server (5 am my time) every day, without fail, the game (or all its connections) freeze up. Not just for me, but I've had the freeze pass to see everyone else in the room disconnect too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Hauwke on January 17, 2017, 05:24:47 PM
It goes for like 2 mins each time yeah? Pretty sure thats a reboot or something is what I got told.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: nessalin on January 17, 2017, 05:27:37 PM
Quote from: bardlyone on January 16, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
That does sound weird. I've noticed around 4 am server (5 am my time) every day, without fail, the game (or all its connections) freeze up. Not just for me, but I've had the freeze pass to see everyone else in the room disconnect too.

That's the nightly backups.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Kalden on January 17, 2017, 05:40:31 PM
How's the automated performance test suite look in the continuous integration build pipeline?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Miradus on January 17, 2017, 06:03:01 PM
Quote from: Kalden on January 17, 2017, 05:40:31 PM
How's the automated performance test suite look in the continuous integration build pipeline?

Shiny and chrome.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Nathvaan on January 17, 2017, 07:16:06 PM
Quote from: nessalin on January 17, 2017, 05:27:37 PM
Quote from: bardlyone on January 16, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
That does sound weird. I've noticed around 4 am server (5 am my time) every day, without fail, the game (or all its connections) freeze up. Not just for me, but I've had the freeze pass to see everyone else in the room disconnect too.

That's the nightly backups.

And to make sure it's clear, it's 6am server not 4am server.  The lag at that time usually lasts about 90 seconds or so and cannot be avoided if we want to have online daily backups.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: manipura on January 17, 2017, 07:17:03 PM
Quote from: bardlyone on January 16, 2017, 10:36:24 PM
That does sound weird. I've noticed around 4 am server (5 am my time) every day, without fail, the game (or all its connections) freeze up. Not just for me, but I've had the freeze pass to see everyone else in the room disconnect too.

If it's the daily (nightly?) backup that pauses things for about 2 minutes, I believe it happens at 6AM server time. 
If I'm playing at that time, I try to make a point of getting a command in just before the server hits 6AM.  If I don't input something within that minute the hang-up is enough idle time to disconnect me, if I do get a command in it's just a couple minutes of lag time.

Edit: Yeah, what Nathvaan said while I was busy typing.  Heh.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: bardlyone on January 17, 2017, 09:33:12 PM
Yah, I meant 5 am my time, 6 am server. derp.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Esadal on March 10, 2017, 01:13:39 AM
Has..  Has it happened again?  Or is it just me?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: ChibiTama on March 10, 2017, 01:14:46 AM
I think it crashed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: ChibiTama on March 22, 2017, 11:25:13 PM
Is anyone else experiencing some major lag right now?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Shik on March 22, 2017, 11:27:22 PM
Yeah, I've got some delay issues here, too.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: ChibiTama on March 22, 2017, 11:28:14 PM
I'm getting roughly 60 second delays just walking between rooms one at a time.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: fkteval on March 22, 2017, 11:29:20 PM
Yeah, rediculous amounts of lag right now. I cant even move from room to room without almost 20 seconds to 30
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Morrolan on March 22, 2017, 11:41:35 PM
#2lag2play
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Exen44 on March 22, 2017, 11:44:04 PM
Yep. Just sitting in a room, not even bothering to move because I'd rather do without a 20 second delay between actions.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Exen44 on March 22, 2017, 11:45:29 PM
Never mind, looks like it -just- got better.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: pirren on March 23, 2017, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Morrolan on March 22, 2017, 11:41:35 PM
#2lag2play

I also feel it's pretty laggy, thus prefer to spend more itme on other muds :(
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Feco on March 23, 2017, 10:34:58 AM
Quote from: pirren on March 23, 2017, 09:35:45 AM
Quote from: Morrolan on March 22, 2017, 11:41:35 PM
#2lag2play

I also feel it's pretty laggy, thus prefer to spend more itme on other muds :(

In this post they're talking about very specific lag spikes.  In general, the game is not laggy for the majority of people.

Like the Ask the Staff post said, it may be you're mistaking command delay with lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Feco on March 27, 2017, 05:14:07 PM
Did the game go down, or is it me?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Exen44 on March 27, 2017, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Feco on March 27, 2017, 05:14:07 PM
Did the game go down, or is it me?

I think it was just you. It happens. One time all of Armageddon went down for me. I'm talking the website, the forums, the servers - all of it. Poof. And I couldn't play for like 20 minutes and I had no idea what had happened. And absolutely /nobody/ else had experienced it. All my other internet functions were fine except Armageddon.

I'm just happy I was in a relatively safe place when it happened IG or else I would have been a lot more pissed.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Exen44 on May 04, 2017, 10:04:49 PM
RIP.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: lostinspace on May 04, 2017, 10:48:55 PM
Quote from: Exen44 on March 27, 2017, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: Feco on March 27, 2017, 05:14:07 PM
Did the game go down, or is it me?

I think it was just you. It happens. One time all of Armageddon went down for me. I'm talking the website, the forums, the servers - all of it. Poof. And I couldn't play for like 20 minutes and I had no idea what had happened. And absolutely /nobody/ else had experienced it. All my other internet functions were fine except Armageddon.

I'm just happy I was in a relatively safe place when it happened IG or else I would have been a lot more pissed.


Sounds like DNS issues, also I don't see game lag often, but the forums don't load for me at all sometimes.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Exen44 on May 05, 2017, 03:52:08 PM
Another crash.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Riev on May 05, 2017, 03:53:52 PM
Not quite a crash, because the server stayed up.

There's something between the server and us that is getting popped. (And here I thought it was my work firewall, because when I connect through remote connections, its fine).

Is there something wrong with a backbone in NYC maybe?
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: Exen44 on May 09, 2017, 04:31:49 PM
Getting some lag.
Title: Re: Lag?
Post by: James de Monet on December 30, 2017, 11:23:52 PM
What I saw scroll through my screen after that unholy lag spike ended will haunt my dreams for a long, long time.   :o