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Title: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Sidathe Silverdawn on August 28, 2019, 05:50:43 PM
Who started the Armageddon MUD and are any of those people still around from when it was founded?

If not, is there anyone who knows of them and interacted with them?

Is the world significantly different from when they started it?
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Bogre on August 28, 2019, 06:00:45 PM
I found this from Nauta, a year or so ago.

I don't know how much of it is verified.

Nauta's History of ArmageddonMUD (https://homebrewery.naturalcrit.com/share/HJ3ndZutG)
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Eyeball on August 28, 2019, 10:08:28 PM
I believe the original team (beyond the creators of DIKU muds themselves) was:

Jhalavar, Nessalin, Azroen, Ur, and Kelvik. Or close to it. There was Becklee, Shala and Sting in there somewhere as well, but I never met them. Bram was an early Overlord (called Administrators now).

Jhalavar left early on, but was the key figure originally (the one who got it all rolling). I think. To his credit, he was only thirteen years old, and still managed to patch his own programming language (DMPL) in.

Tenebrius has been around a long time. I don't know whether he's active anymore.

Nessalin is the only active founder now.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: The Lonely Hunter on August 29, 2019, 09:56:59 AM
It was founded in 1991 by Dan B. in Illinois. Dan still peeks his head in once and awhile but the last time that I talked to him (about five years ago) he hasn't played but he did have a "legend" character. Some people claim that he started it for a school project, which is false. He basically played a lot of MUDs and knew some c and wanted to make a better mud so he started modifying dikumud source. Shortly after he enlisted some volunteers to help him out. Two of the first volunteers were Nasri and Santiago.

Tiernan and Ness have likely been around the longest. Sanvean made a large impact on the direction of the game as well but, as far as I know, she hasn't played in a long time. She is a rather successful author and all around neat chick.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: zalanthasNomad on August 29, 2019, 10:02:23 AM
Hearing all these names ... #nostalgia
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Sidathe Silverdawn on August 29, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
I would like to hear more about the highest ever players online. 170+?????   Wow! What would that do to the game with all of those on at once. Would that slow things? Why are we still not that high?  The most I have seen on was 56.

And what about this:
5/15/12   Arm 2.0 Officially Cancelled

What would Arm 2.0 look like? Same world just different code?
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Veselka on August 29, 2019, 04:39:53 PM
Quote from: Sidathe Silverdawn on August 29, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
I would like to hear more about the highest ever players online. 170+?????   Wow! What would that do to the game with all of those on at once. Would that slow things? Why are we still not that high?  The most I have seen on was 56.

And what about this:
5/15/12   Arm 2.0 Officially Cancelled

What would Arm 2.0 look like? Same world just different code?

It was meant to be an entirely new game, taking place many years in the future (or the past?) with lots of new code. They had a separate team handling that at the time. It was divisive to say the least.

With Tuluk closing, we're already halfway there. I honestly wouldn't mind 2.0 at this point, heh.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Riev on August 29, 2019, 04:57:08 PM
Quote from: Sidathe Silverdawn on August 29, 2019, 03:51:20 PM
I would like to hear more about the highest ever players online. 170+?????   Wow! What would that do to the game with all of those on at once. Would that slow things? Why are we still not that high?  The most I have seen on was 56.

And what about this:
5/15/12   Arm 2.0 Officially Cancelled

What would Arm 2.0 look like? Same world just different code?

170+ was during an HRPT, if I remember right. Typically we hover around 170 - 220 active players at any given time, but playtimes are spread out.

An HRPT involves world-changing activities and often has people staying logged in for a period of time just to experience it.

Arm 2.0 was a project to be set far in Arm's future and involved a lot of different mechanics, its own coding, and a whole slew of different storylines including rideable PC mounts, cat people, a town where HEIGHT means something, and "water farms" where people can basically forage for water in muddy flats and sell it.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: number13 on August 29, 2019, 05:42:41 PM
It's worth noting that some of the ideas from Arm 2 were backported to Arm. Most notably, Allanak didn't used to have nearly as many roof-tops or climbable surfaces. And the idea of elementalists being subclasses rather than full classes was an Arm2 thing. Not 100% sure, but I think the idea of the Touched was originally going to be an Arm2 feature as well.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Olafson on August 29, 2019, 08:32:38 PM
I believe there were 70 something on the other night.  Regularly over 50.  Much better numbers than what I remember seeing for many years.  Having played for 25 years off and on, I think things are great.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: PriestlySiren on August 29, 2019, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: Olafson on August 29, 2019, 08:32:38 PM
I believe there were 70 something on the other night.  Regularly over 50.  Much better numbers than what I remember seeing for many years.  Having played for 25 years off and on, I think things are great.

That would have been during the PBRPT?
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Olafson on August 29, 2019, 10:28:26 PM
Believe so.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: ShaLeah on August 30, 2019, 09:47:57 AM
Highest on at the same time during this HRPT was 84. Love those numbers lately.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Heade on September 03, 2019, 08:45:46 AM
How close to the beginning did Morgenes come on board? I thought he was one of the founders.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Riev on September 03, 2019, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: Heade on September 03, 2019, 08:45:46 AM
How close to the beginning did Morgenes come on board? I thought he was one of the founders.

I always thought that Morgenes was less of a "founder" and more "was an original coder on the DIKU project and as such was drawn to the code-base changes on Armageddon".
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: kahuna on September 03, 2019, 11:01:10 AM
Quote from: Riev on September 03, 2019, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: Heade on September 03, 2019, 08:45:46 AM
How close to the beginning did Morgenes come on board? I thought he was one of the founders.

I always thought that Morgenes was less of a "founder" and more "was an original coder on the DIKU project and as such was drawn to the code-base changes on Armageddon".

Unless Morgenes is from Denmark I highly doubt he worked on DIKU. It was developed at a CS department in Denmark and you can find the 5 coders in all diku muds licenses.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: Riev on September 03, 2019, 02:41:54 PM
Its possible I conflated "Morgenes" with Michael Seifert.
Title: Re: Who started Arm MUD and are any founders still around?
Post by: dravage on September 03, 2019, 09:39:47 PM
Quote from: Riev on September 03, 2019, 02:41:54 PM
Its possible I conflated "Morgenes" with Michael Seifert.

How dare you.