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Title: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 15, 2019, 08:41:43 PM
As requested here is a thread to talk all about what happened in the show.

Jon Snow rode a fucking dragon, he’s been fucking his cousin ew.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on April 15, 2019, 09:15:42 PM
They found out the dead have an undead dragon.
Sansa does -not- appreciate having Daenerys in Winterfell or that Jon bent a knee to her.
Bran is truly a spooky badass now and doesn't need anyone to carry him.  And he and Jaime have come face to face...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on April 15, 2019, 09:36:18 PM
Yeah, that's gonna be an awkward conversation for sure.

I kinda loved the opening being such a blatant callback to the very first episode, nice bit of fanservice there.

Good episode in general, they've set things up nicely for the remainder of the season.  I'm really struggling to imagine how they can wrap things up in a satisfactory way with only five episodes remaining though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on April 15, 2019, 09:44:07 PM
As requested here is a thread to talk all about what happened in the show.

Jon Snow rode a fucking dragon, he’s been fucking his cousin ew.

Actually, he’s been fucking his Aunt. Dany is the daughter of the Mad King — Jon (Aegon) is the son of Rhaegar, who was Dany’s brother.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on April 15, 2019, 09:46:32 PM
The pacing already feels so much better than last season. My hope is they wrap up extraneous side plots like Theon as they did in this episode. Brief and to the point, handled within one episode rather than strung out in tiny chunks over several.

My favorite part? Screaming kid wight in an Old Gods spiral of human remains. Horrific. Brutal. Delicious.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Medena on April 15, 2019, 10:00:21 PM
I loved all the meetings of people who had not seen each other in a long time.

Jon and Bran
Jon and Arya -- it was touching
Arya and Gendry
Arya and the Hound -- Lol, not exactly full of warmth
Theon and Yara -- now there was a tender family moment.  I love how she knocked him down with a solid punch.  You go gal!

and, saving the best for last:

Jaime and Bran -- Awkward!  there's sure to be a small plot arising from that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on April 15, 2019, 10:13:29 PM
My favorite part? Screaming kid wight in an Old Gods spiral of human remains. Horrific. Brutal. Delicious.
Yeah, that was something that they didn't have to do and yet did.  It was awesome.  I think that bodes well for how hard they're going to work to make this season great.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 15, 2019, 10:39:45 PM
I loved all the meetings of people who had not seen each other in a long time.

Jon and Bran
Jon and Arya -- it was touching
Arya and Gendry
Arya and the Hound -- Lol, not exactly full of warmth
Theon and Yara -- now there was a tender family moment.  I love how she knocked him down with a solid punch.  You go gal!

and, saving the best for last:

Jaime and Bran -- Awkward!  there's sure to be a small plot arising from that.
She actually headbutt Theon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 16, 2019, 01:05:53 AM
(https://pics.me.me/thumb_everyone-at-winterfell-bran-just-waiting-for-an-old-friend-48276923.png)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 16, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
Best thing about game of thrones, Gay of Thrones!

https://youtu.be/F1WGZMuChQ4
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 16, 2019, 02:01:12 PM
I am so relieved that my wife Yara is safe (for now).

Also that look of helpless resent she gives when that dude says he is heading of to f-ck the queen, I know the feel.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Riev on April 19, 2019, 10:43:13 AM
So. There are a ton of theories running around about The Prince(ess) that was Promised, and Azor Ahai, and apparently now that the Night King will relinquish to a Night QUEEN?

Some of these theories are just so extra, and while fun, seem like hackier writing than anything else that has been done. GRRM honestly keeps things pretty simple, and doesn't go over the reader's head, he just takes a lot of risk in his creative storytelling. Its up to how much the Benioff and the others want above and beyond the simple or obvious. Nevertheless, my predictions:

I think that Cersei was lying about being with child, to get Jamie and Tyrion to believe her lies about being a changed person, while she contracted the Golden Company to cement her standing as Queen, completely downplaying the danger of the impending horde.

I think that the Night King, who is vulnerable to fire, isn't going to fight 2 large dragons, with his large dragon that is ALSO now vulnerable to fire. I think he's going to be the Night King of King's Landing instead, and have not only the Lannisters, but the Golden Company under his command. (sans elephants). Now its a real army of capable warriors, not rando undead wildlings.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 19, 2019, 10:52:41 AM
I've heard more times than anything that people think Bran is actually the night king in some weird future thing.

I've also heard theories that say the imp isn't really working for Dany, and he's always been working for his sister.

But I will tell you what, if my girlfriend doesn't let me leave her grandmother's house on Easter in time to watch the next episode, I know who's gonna get stabbed next.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Riev on April 19, 2019, 02:49:23 PM
But I will tell you what, if my girlfriend doesn't let me leave her grandmother's house on Easter in time to watch the next episode, I know who's gonna get stabbed next.

Seconded.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on April 19, 2019, 03:02:32 PM
Damn dude they killed my boy Ned.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 21, 2019, 11:59:51 PM
So I am liking where we are going, how things are shaping up.

However, I think this like last week was a slightly wasted episode.

Way too much talking about nothing and not much action.

The knighting of the big chick was silly and useless to advance the story.

I did actually feel some tension when Jon Snow said who he really was to Dany... I thought she might do something crazy like stab him in the neck right there.

Ancestry.wrong 100% fucking your aunt.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 22, 2019, 12:14:40 AM
Agree with the above assessment, felt like they were cramming character development in before people get killed off in the apocalyptic battles to come. But I took it for what it was, enjoyed the acting, like the look on Missandei’s face as Grey Worm walks off.

Also can I just say I am so proud of Arya, tossing daggers like a stone cold killer when doubted and totally taking what she wanted from that blacksmith boy. Total role model and a ‘badass’ as Maisie Williams herself describes her.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on April 22, 2019, 01:02:03 AM
Am I the only one who felt super uncomfortable about Arya getting naked with blacksmith dude?

Like we've been watching this show since she was a child and the directors have known her since she was like eight or ten years old?

We don't need to see everything.  It felt like some pervy fan service just kind of fuckin' thrown in there.  Did not like.  I've got a creepy friend in his forties that has been drooling over Arya since before she was of age.  Kind of like the whole Hermione is legal now thing.  I didn't need Arya to fuck anybody and go down that tired "it's our last night on Earth" trope.

I wish they would've just not.

I was so ready for the battle by the end, disappointed I have to wait a week for it.  I legit can not tell what is going to happen or who is going to die and that unsettles me.  I feel like next week we're going to get kicked into a whirlwind.

Also speaking of Arya I am ready to see her kick some White Walker ass.

As far as Dany goes... she knows her dad was a bat shit dictator.  Why was she mad at Jaime?  It seems like they're suddenly setting her up to be the villain that goes crazy like her parents which is a tad bit disappointing.

I'm enjoying the ride and I enjoy Tyrion as much as ever, I just wish this episode had moved the plot on a little bit and I grow wary.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on April 22, 2019, 01:13:30 AM
Enjoyed it.

Felt real weird that Arya got naked. But humans in GoT are lucky to have consensual sex by the age of 16+.

Character development / catchin' up on the good ol' times was welcome. Some of it was like, one step too far or too many. Dog + Arya + Beric for instance. But otherwise, enjoyed the fire time hearth stories and singing and Tormund giving some serious side eye.

Ultimately, I'm enjoying the pace of this season compared to Season 7 -- It feels like they can take their time with a story, rather than cramming in a bunch of bullshit back to back. Looking forward to Battle Royale next week. Pacing!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on April 22, 2019, 01:17:16 AM
Am I the only one who felt super uncomfortable about Arya getting naked with blacksmith dude?

Like we've been watching this show since she was a child and the directors have known her since she was like eight or ten years old?

We don't need to see everything.  It felt like some pervy fan service just kind of fuckin' thrown in there.  Did not like.  I've got a creepy friend in his forties that has been drooling over Arya since before she was of age.  Kind of like the whole Hermione is legal now thing.  I didn't need Arya to fuck anybody and go down that tired "it's our last night on Earth" trope.

I wish they would've just not.

I was so ready for the battle by the end, disappointed I have to wait a week for it.  I legit can not tell what is going to happen or who is going to die and that unsettles me.  I feel like next week we're going to get kicked into a whirlwind.

Also speaking of Arya I am ready to see her kick some White Walker ass.

As far as Dany goes... she knows her dad was a bat shit dictator.  Why was she mad at Jaime?  It seems like they're suddenly setting her up to be the villain that goes crazy like her parents which is a tad bit disappointing.

I'm enjoying the ride and I enjoy Tyrion as much as ever, I just wish this episode had moved the plot on a little bit and I grow wary.

As to why she was mad at Jaime -- It's one thing to know someone in theory 'did the right thing', and another to realize this is the guy that set up your life to be a walking shit show for many years...Living in exile...Getting raped and coming around to love your husband (Khal Drogo)...Many years of hardship directly related to this guy. But -- I think it also points out that life is a journey, everything brought her and Jaime up to this point. Things happened (supposedly) for a reason. I think she was paying lip service to what the Dany of old should have committed to -- Just killing Jaime for his past transgressions -- But she already knew while she was speaking that she didn't exactly believe that. She relied on Jon and Sansa to guide the conversation, and Brienne sealed the deal.

To me it was an interesting reconciliation between what your family tells you must be true, and what you learn to be the truth (or your own truth) through your own journey. The Kingslayer must be a villain, must be awful, must have been the worst person ever to kill your father. But you learn through your travels and life journey that the world is grey, not black and white...It was interesting seeing it come down to something like Sansa's undying trust in Brienne to overpower her supposed 'loyalty' to the Starks and a blood debt. I think it introduces important life lessons in that way.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 22, 2019, 01:21:56 AM
They didn’t show anything with Arya she had some weird nude boob stocking on.

So at most you saw some side boob.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on April 22, 2019, 01:24:48 AM
They didn’t show anything with Arya she had some weird nude boob stocking on.

So at most you saw some side boob.

Yeah, it's still weird to see someone who was like 12 when the show started show side boob.

Anyways, last night on earth trope, etc.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 22, 2019, 02:09:32 AM
Seeing the discussion make this turn does make me wish they shot it differently. However, I am glad they took the risk for this reason: it avoids the more harmful madonna/whore trope that we see informing people's reactions right here. I feel like tomboys deal with a lot of shit that mess with their development and seeing the character make this decision in a way that was so in character is net positive and I stand by my role-model comment. The scene was uncomfortable, but wasn't so uncomfortable for me as someone who identifies with Arya and my immediate reaction actually made me think of all the times I've felt guilty for being assertive like she was there. Screw guilt and the whole madonna/whore dichotomy. So yeah -- shot weird, I understand why people are grossed out, but holy shit Arya is a great character and the sort of character I always enjoyed in literature growing up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on April 22, 2019, 02:22:30 AM
Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 22, 2019, 02:24:21 AM
Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

ROFL yeah shit is going to get ugly every which way.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Medena on April 22, 2019, 02:29:57 AM
I loved this episode.  I laughed, I cried, I let out a gasp of surprise or two... good stuff.  I think the pacing so far this season has been just perfect to lead into a long, long third episode (rumoured to be 85 minutes) of nothing but the BIG BATTLE.  I lapped up all those little human moments -- Brienne getting knighted, little Lady Mormont insisting on fighting, Sansa and Theon's reunion -- and thought they were necessary to underpin the enormity of what is to come.

I must say that I was surprised as hell by Arya's seduction of Gendry.  Surprised but not shocked.  The actor who plays Arya is now 22 years old, having been 12 or 13 when she was first cast.  I think in the books, the character was 9 or 10 but would definitely still have been an adult by now, especially in that world.  I actually applaud the scene, for Game of Thrones has been pretty sexist about its sex scenes, partially due to the world created by G.R.R. Martin, but mainly due to the fact there has been so much nudity of the women characters and very little of the men.  While the latter did not change here, it was good to see a female character taking the lead.  And, as triste said, the way it went down was totally in character for Arya.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on April 22, 2019, 11:24:58 AM
Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

I know!  So unsettling, also they're in the crypts so that's like... creepy.

And continuing on the Arya discussion I was cringing so hard like ah, no don't!  It felt so, so wrong.  Yes Maise has aged but how much has her character aged really?  Do we know.  Just like Dany was supposed to be 13 in those scenes.  It's just a bit cringe.  And I felt she deserved better while the directors awkwardly tried to make her look in control just to do it to do it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on April 22, 2019, 11:44:23 AM
The only person who is safe from the White Walkers is Sam. That first time they looked at him, they were like you are soo useless we do not even want to turn you.

Bold Prediction: Samwell on the Iron Throne, because he is the only one left.

Real Prediction: Tyrion sits on the throne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 22, 2019, 11:54:21 AM
Arya is gonna end up dying because she spent all her energy banging the blacksmith.

You never bang before a big battle!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on April 22, 2019, 12:37:54 PM
Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

I know!  So unsettling, also they're in the crypts so that's like... creepy.

And continuing on the Arya discussion I was cringing so hard like ah, no don't!  It felt so, so wrong.  Yes Maise has aged but how much has her character aged really?  Do we know.  Just like Dany was supposed to be 13 in those scenes.  It's just a bit cringe.  And I felt she deserved better while the directors awkwardly tried to make her look in control just to do it to do it.

Yeah. I guess in our modern world, teenagers have sex by the time they are 14-16 most of the time. It isn't televised and side-boobed, but at the same time, in Westeros it seems sorta normal.

I agree at the cringing. I feel like it could have been FTB.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on April 22, 2019, 03:56:06 PM
Bold move, doing an abbreviated final season and spending two whole episodes just talking and having people be generally decent to each-other.

I actually thought Brienne's knighting scene was the best in the episode.  (Well, tied for Tormunds utterly ham-fisted attempts at flirting.)  Like, it was an actual conclusion to her character arc.  (So... she gonna die, but I hope it'll be slumped atop a mountain of cloven zombies.)

Also, hail Samwell Tarly, slayer of white walkers, lover of women.  A well-put F-U to people under-estimating him.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 22, 2019, 08:13:55 PM
it was an actual conclusion to her character arc.  (So... she gonna die, but I hope it'll be slumped atop a mountain of cloven zombies.)

When my friend said they treated Brienne nice last episode this is exactly what I said: it’s just gearing up for a bittersweet death. I’d like for it not to be so predictable and to be proven wrong.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 22, 2019, 08:37:40 PM
Tormund flirting is pretty much every Bynner I've ever seen flirt with someone at the Gaj.  Literally every single one.

My wishlist of people to die is:

Brienne
Sansa
Gendry (because now he's useless after making all the dragonglass shit and fucking Arya.)
That religious guy with the flaming sword, because it never made any sense that gods exist in the world yet nobody is doing shit about all these evil white walkers.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: mansa on April 22, 2019, 08:39:58 PM
Predictions:

Jaime Lannisterdead
Cersei Lannisterdead
Daenerys Targaryendead
Jorah Mormontdead
Jon Snowdead
Sansa Starkdead
Arya Starkdead
Theon Greyjoydead
Bran Stark / Three-Eyed Ravendead
Sandor "The Hound" Cleganedead
Tyrion Lannisterdead
Davos Seaworthdead
Samwell Tarlydead
Bronndead
Varysdead
Gendrydead
Tormund Giantsbanedead
Brienne of Tarthdead
Gillydead
Missandeidead
Grey Wormdead
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on April 22, 2019, 08:43:56 PM
Predictions:

Jaime Lannisterdead
Cersei Lannisterdead
Daenerys Targaryendead
Jorah Mormontdead
Jon Snowdead
Sansa Starkdead
Arya Starkdead
Theon Greyjoydead
Bran Stark / Three-Eyed Ravendead
Sandor "The Hound" Cleganedead
Tyrion Lannisterdead
Davos Seaworthdead
Samwell Tarlydead
Bronndead
Varysdead
Gendrydead
Tormund Giantsbanedead
Brienne of Tarthdead
Gillydead
Missandeidead
Grey Wormdead

If they close with a "two hundred years later" montage you only get half credit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 22, 2019, 08:51:57 PM
Can we please do a Dead-Alive-White Walker pool on GoT? Personally I'd love to see Brienne become a White Walker.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on April 22, 2019, 09:00:31 PM
I'm a bit torn on this season so far.  While the slower pace and plethora of character focused moments is appreciated, the mere handful of episodes we're getting makes that a little bittersweet.  Four episodes remain, and the battle can reasonably be expected to take at least one full episode.  It just seems like there's so much ground to cover after that, and we have 2-3 episodes at most.  I mean, Cleganebowl deserves an 80 minute episode to itself.

Prediction: we lose at least one out of Brienne and Theon next episode.

Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

Yeah, putting your noncombatants in a crypt doesn't seem like a great idea when your opponent can raise the dead.

I doubt it'll happen, but GoT now has the potential to be the first show where Sean Bean dies twice.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: mansa on April 22, 2019, 09:01:36 PM
Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

Yeah, putting your noncombatants in a crypt doesn't seem like a great idea when your opponent can raise the dead.

I doubt it'll happen, but GoT now has the potential to be the first show where Sean Bean dies twice.


*COUGH*
GOLDEN EYE
HELLO
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on April 22, 2019, 09:06:22 PM
Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

Yeah, putting your noncombatants in a crypt doesn't seem like a great idea when your opponent can raise the dead.

I doubt it'll happen, but GoT now has the potential to be the first show where Sean Bean dies twice.


*COUGH*
GOLDEN EYE
HELLO

To my shame, I've never actually gotten around to watching a James Bond film.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on April 22, 2019, 09:19:36 PM
I personally felt uncomfortable watching the Arya bit.  I think it would've been okay to stop at the kissing and then let us skip to the last shot of them in bed.  However, that would've been un-GoT.  It's not the most uncomfortable thing I've watched in the show.  I think it was cool how she was right up front and got what she wanted.  I just didn't want to watch it.  And I'm grateful they didn't show more than they did.

I'm old enough that she could easily be my granddaughter though, so that probably has some effect on my perception of the scene.

I really enjoyed the old war buddies sitting together drinking and shooting the shit bit.  I've done the same thing with PCs in Arm before some big dangerous outing.  You know most of them are gonna die and we're not going to get to see them anymore.  I think it's exactly what they would do.  The old vets who know what's what.















Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 22, 2019, 09:29:57 PM
She’s twenty some years old, it’s not a big deal really.

And it was just sideboob.  Do you feel as uncomfortable when a twenty some year old woman has a bikini on?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on April 22, 2019, 09:32:02 PM

Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

Yeah, putting your noncombatants in a crypt doesn't seem like a great idea when your opponent can raise the dead.

I doubt it'll happen, but GoT now has the potential to be the first show where Sean Bean dies twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJu8YJbst9E
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on April 22, 2019, 09:33:24 PM
Jesus the foreshadowing is like a sledgehammer
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 22, 2019, 09:40:52 PM
Just going to leave this here if anyone wants to play. Yay for OCRs


Instructions:
1. Predict if each character will be alive or dead at the end of
Game of Thrones season 8. 1 point for each correct answer.
2. If you predict the character dead, you have the option to
predict if they become a White Walker. Gain one extra point if
POOL you correctly predict if they become a White Walker. Lose a
point if you predict White Walker status incorrectly.
3. Correctly answer Bonus Questions for more points.
4. Can't edit your submissions after 4/27 or get points for any
characters already dead if you submit after then

Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Cersei Lannister
Jamie Lannister
Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Yara Greyjoy
Theon Greyjoy
Melisandre
Jorah Mormont
The Hound
The Mountain
Samwell Tarly
Gilly
Sam (Child)
Lord Varys
Brienne of Tarth
Davos Seaworth
Bronn
Podrick Payne
Tormund Giantsbane
Grey Worm
Gendry
Beric Dondarrion
Euron Greyjoy


Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)
2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)
3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on April 22, 2019, 10:24:59 PM

Boy, I sure am glad we clarified how super safe the crypts are.

Now that we know how safe the super safe crypts are,  we can put the people who need to be kept safe there, where they will be safe in safety.

Safe safe safe.

Yeah, putting your noncombatants in a crypt doesn't seem like a great idea when your opponent can raise the dead.

I doubt it'll happen, but GoT now has the potential to be the first show where Sean Bean dies twice.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJu8YJbst9E

lmao.

Also, dude... why is everyone so bothered by the Arya scene? Good God, she's an adult trying to bang once before she might die. She's had enough of her childhood/teenage life taken from her. Why not let her have this one normal thing? You guys just want her to be virgin stabby murder-bitch forever. So weird.  :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on April 23, 2019, 12:14:44 AM
I believe I said I was glad she did it, I just didn't want to watch it. 

I'm going to play this game!

Code: [Select]
Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow                            X           No
Sansa Stark             X
Arya Stark              X
Bran Stark                          X           Y
Cersei Lannister                    X
Jamie Lannister                     X           Y
Tyrion Lannister        X
Daenerys Targaryen                  X           Y
Yara Greyjoy                        X
Theon Greyjoy                       X           Y
Melisandre                          X
Jorah Mormont                       X           Y
The Hound                           X           Y
The Mountain                        X
Samwell Tarly                       X           Y
Gilly                   X               
Sam (Child)             X
Lord Varys              X
Brienne of Tarth                    X           Y
Davos Seaworth                      X           Y
Bronn                               X           Y                   
Podrick Payne                       X           Y
Tormund Giantsbane                  X           Y
Grey Worm                           X           Y
Gendry                              X           Y
Beric Dondarrion                    X           
Euron Greyjoy                       X           NO


Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)   Hmmm.  Sure, why not.
2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)       I'm gonna vote for Arya.  But it would be sweet if it was Sam.
3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)    I have no idea.  I'll pick Sensa Stark.

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)    Lying
2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)  Hah!  Never thought of that.  They wouldn't pass up the chance for the drama of one of his kids having to kill him...so sure.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on April 23, 2019, 12:21:05 AM
I think Daenarys in the books is planned to become a White Walker to fulfill the one prophecy about the Night Queen but the show is probably gonna kill her, revive her corpse, and kill it again 8 minutes later.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Delirium on April 23, 2019, 01:31:12 AM
https://imgur.com/gallery/dSYAaEb?fbclid=IwAR31ZdiNHz0DYN33kzXKutR2sJc1zUmHmSOGcO_2BQ_ukGkUQFsUcJ1enQc

this is solid gold.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 23, 2019, 04:17:33 AM
I expect there to be a double-pronged attack on King's Landing and Winterfell...

Highly improbable but would be a sick plot-twist.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on April 23, 2019, 09:10:19 AM
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Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 23, 2019, 09:59:18 AM
We deserve these moments. Anyone annoyed that it's too slow is probably failing to realize we have four short 1:20 movies to wrap up the rest(or over 5 hours). Also you need to realize they chose to have 6 episodes to finish the series. It's not like they had to cut a full season down to 6 episodes and so have to leave a bunch out or try hard to make it all fit. Game of Thrones has always been a character study as much as a spectacle. We'd feel robbed if everyone started dying without these moments.

This episode is quintessential pre-battle storytelling though. We'll just have to see how many foreshadowed deaths are red-herrings and how many are real.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on April 23, 2019, 10:20:15 AM
Code: [Select]

Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow X
Sansa Stark X
Arya Stark X
Bran Stark X
Cersei Lannister X
Jamie Lannister X
Tyrion Lannister X
Daenerys Targaryen X
Yara Greyjoy X
Theon Greyjoy X
Melisandre X
Jorah Mormont X
The Hound X
The Mountain X
Samwell Tarly X
Gilly X
Sam (Child) X
Lord Varys X
Brienne of Tarth X
Davos Seaworth X
Bronn X
Podrick Payne X
Tormund Giantsbane X
Grey Worm X
Gendry X
Beric Dondarrion X
Euron Greyjoy X
Missandei X

Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)

No.

2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)

Jon Snow

3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

No one, it will be melted by dragonfire.

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)

Both?

2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)

No.

Added in Missandei.

Also, sorely missed bonus question:  Who will win Cleganebowl?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 23, 2019, 11:40:00 AM
Jesus there's so many good characters to kill off. I've never seen a show or movie or book have something similar to this, where so many characters are beloved and also probably doomed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on April 23, 2019, 02:42:24 PM
Jesus there's so many good characters to kill off. I've never seen a show or movie or book have something similar to this, where so many characters are beloved and also probably doomed.

We've masterfully been led to care about every single character that's left, even ones we formerly despised.  WTH

There's literally no one left I won't get upset if they die, to varying degrees of course.  Like Tyrion I will scream.  Theon?  Eh.  Oh and that one pirate dude riding Cersei's coat tails?  He can go.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on April 23, 2019, 03:12:48 PM
Oh and that one pirate dude riding Cersei's coat tails?  He can go.

I hope he goes in some really stupid fun way that we can crow at when it happens.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on April 23, 2019, 03:26:04 PM
Also, sorely missed bonus question:  Who will win Cleganebowl?
It's too epic.  They both die with their hands around each other's throat, unwilling to let go even though it would save their lives.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 23, 2019, 06:08:49 PM
Started a game of thrones death pool at work. Given how NSFW the show is I can already tell this was a terrible idea but people seem to be having fun.

To all y’all thinking Sansa is going to get the throne: you’re cute don’t ever change <3
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on April 23, 2019, 06:17:58 PM
Started a game of thrones death pool at work. Given how NSFW the show is I can already tell this was a terrible idea but people seem to be having fun.

To all y’all thinking Sansa is going to get the throne: you’re cute don’t ever change <3
GRRM's favorite character is Sansa. So, it's not a bad pick imo.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Delirium on April 24, 2019, 12:57:42 AM
*grumbles something about dragons having FOUR LEGS and Daeny's dragons not being dragons at all*
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: flurry on April 24, 2019, 06:56:44 PM
Winterfell is having an HRPT and the first two episodes were everyone logging in to get ready for it to start.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Iiyola on April 24, 2019, 09:42:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw5a4X8YJlk
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Medena on April 24, 2019, 10:03:04 PM
Thanks for sharing.   I love weiner dogs.  :-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Medena on April 26, 2019, 06:50:47 PM
Code: [Select]

Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow X
Sansa Stark         X
Arya Stark X
Bran Stark    X               
Cersei Lannister    X
Jamie Lannister    X
Tyrion Lannister X
Daenerys Targaryen X
Yara Greyjoy    X
Theon Greyjoy            X               X
Melisandre    X
Jorah Mormont    X
The Hound    X
The Mountain    X
Samwell Tarly           X
Gilly X
Sam (Child) X
Lord Varys         X
Brienne of Tarth    X
Davos Seaworth    X
Bronn         X
Podrick Payne X
Tormund Giantsbane    X              X
Grey Worm            X
Gendry         X
Beric Dondarrion X                   X
Euron Greyjoy    X
Missandei         X

Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)

No.

2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)

Combo -- Arya with an assist from Bran

3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

Jon Snow

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
 
Lying

2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)

No.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on April 26, 2019, 07:40:43 PM
Here is my prediction for this coming episode:

1. White walker army attacks winter fell while....
2. The Night King attacks Kong’s landing and gets another army
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Synthesis on April 26, 2019, 08:55:24 PM
Winterfell is having an HRPT and the first two episodes were everyone logging in to get ready for it to start.

That about sums it up.  Fucking boring, man.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: flurry on April 28, 2019, 07:27:37 PM
If it's not too late to get in on this...

Code: [Select]

Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow               X
Sansa Stark            X
Arya Stark             X
Bran Stark                          X
Cersei Lannister                    X
Jamie Lannister        X               
Tyrion Lannister       X
Daenerys Targaryen     X
Yara Greyjoy                        X
Theon Greyjoy          X
Melisandre.                         X
Jorah Mormont                       X
The Hound                           X
The Mountain                        X
Samwell Tarly          X
Gilly                  X
Sam (Child)            X
Lord Varys             X
Brienne of Tarth                    X
Davos Seaworth.                     X
Bronn                               X
Podrick Payne                       X
Tormund Giantsbane                  X
Grey Worm                           X
Gendry                              X
Beric Dondarrion                    X
Euron Greyjoy                       X


Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)

No

2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)

Jon Snow

3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

Tyrion

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)

Lying

2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)

No

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 28, 2019, 10:42:03 PM
ARYA STARK IS MY DAUGHTER AND I AM SO PROUD OF HER
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on April 28, 2019, 10:45:15 PM
Updating for the death bracket!


Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Cersei Lannister
Jamie Lannister
Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Yara Greyjoy
Theon Greyjoy
Melisandre
Jorah Mormont
The Hound
The Mountain
Samwell Tarly
Gilly
Sam (Child)
Lord Varys
Brienne of Tarth
Davos Seaworth
Bronn
Podrick Payne
Tormund Giantsbane
Grey Worm
Gendry
Beric Dondarrion
Euron Greyjoy
Missandei

Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)
2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)
Arya Stark
3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)
No.


(It occurs to me, I don't think Ned's body actually ever made it back to Winterfell.)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: path on April 28, 2019, 11:12:35 PM
I just want to sit some of these fellows down and have a gentle chat about the best use of light cavalry. I was looking at the battle formation in the opening just shaking my head, trying to negate it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: flurry on April 28, 2019, 11:18:49 PM
Arya brings back the change hands ep es when it counts.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on April 28, 2019, 11:21:15 PM
Arya brings back the change hands ep es when it counts.

YES!

aaaa i can't breathe SHE DID SO WELL
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 28, 2019, 11:28:16 PM
Arya is the fucking man!

Well, woman.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on April 29, 2019, 12:31:54 AM
Holy Shit....That was the most exhausting thing I have ever watched...Not in a bad way either.
My thoughts without giving away spoilers:

1. Arya: Change hands ep es. Seriously.
2. Lady Lyanna Mormont...Straight boss.
3. Fucking Sam

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on April 29, 2019, 12:53:33 AM
INCOMING SPOILER DATAMINED FROM THE SNEAK PEAK SCENE:

(https://i.imgur.com/6K5OcHS.png)

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 29, 2019, 01:01:18 AM
Now we know the last three are them fighting Cersie.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 29, 2019, 02:37:39 AM
My synopsis:
Code: [Select]
>cast mon un 'plot armor' all.important
The episode was an hour and a half of cock-tease, close-call's. Ultimately, no one substantial to the plot died.

I've been in more dramatic and hopeless RPT's.

I did really enjoy how they did the beginning, though; Overbearing darkness shrouding as far as the eye could see.

Their battle tactics were fuck-awful though. Send in the Calvary, far away, with no support, against unknown numbers, in darkness, waving glow sticks and a single volley of catapults. Would've been more heart-pounding if useful tactics were used - Then crushed against the insurmountable odds.

Personally, I would've had the Dothraki split into halves, then lure the enemy in and hit them from the flanks (or as much as possible) while the Unsullied and Wildfolk/whoever held the center, while catapults/dragons reigned cleansing flame down on those abominations.

Formation example:

  \  Undead  /
   \            /
    \ _ _ _ /

I'm done ranting/strategizing what-if's.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 29, 2019, 05:16:36 AM
SPOILERS AHEAD

A lot of people died. You can't kill off Jon, Dany, Sansa (three way political tension). The Hound(clegane Bowl). Tyrion or Jaime(Bronn betrayal plot/Cersie war plot). Just based on dramatic principle alone. And everyone else is just one form of longstanding side character or another. Why kill them all off when we still have another war to get through.

You don't think Jorah or Theon were substantial? They've been around since season 1. Or Melisandre and Beric Dondarion? Lyanna Mormont, Dolorous Ed, All the Dothraki, All unsullied except for Grey worm, and of course, the enemy army and the Night King.

However I agree they way they were filming some scenes made the situation unwinnable, then cut away and back again only to reveal they somehow survived. I didn't like that contirved, plot-armor stuff. Also their battle tactics were definitely awful.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 29, 2019, 09:04:29 AM
My synopsis:
Code: [Select]
>cast mon un 'plot armor' all.important

Your spell wouldn’t have worked because you didn’t have the apostrophes in the right place.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Riev on April 29, 2019, 11:12:51 AM
INCOMING SPOILER DATAMINED FROM THE SNEAK PEAK SCENE:

(https://i.imgur.com/6K5OcHS.png)

NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.

Thank you for the greatest news to receive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on April 29, 2019, 06:35:13 PM
But how did Arya >kill night.king while subdued? Fucking staff pet.


Theon: Fucking hero.
Jorah: What a goddamn knight.
Bran: WTF are all those ravens doing? Going to get you some snacks?
Jon Snow: Congrats on being the epitome of basic warrior in the Byn. "Maybe I'll get lucky and parry." >kill dragon
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on April 29, 2019, 06:37:50 PM
Bran: WTF are all those ravens doing? Going to get you some snacks?

Um, hello, the Freefolk already figured that out.

(https://i.redd.it/kslke5z4h8v21.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on April 29, 2019, 07:52:14 PM
I felt bad for old Jorah, he had shit armor that wasn’t deftly deflecting or absorbing any attacks.  The undead could have had butter knives for how many stabs and slices were going through it.

Also, not looking good for the Mormonts is it? Grandpa dies in the Night's Watch.  Jorah defending essentially a social character, Little one stabs a giant in the eye with dragon glass and died on the way down.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: deskoft on April 29, 2019, 08:47:35 PM
Within the lacking nature of modern TV series in terms of their writers giving their storylines SOME reseach, that shit was very good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Delirium on April 29, 2019, 09:00:10 PM
Good episode for the way they built tension & the music was out of this world.

Horrible battle tactics and grainy too-dark park for the rest.

My favorite parts were TNK smirking at dragonfire, Lady Mormont being a true badass, and Arya shanking TNK.

Oh, oh, and "stick 'em with the pointy end", classic.

One part that made me laugh out loud was Ser Friendzone & Daeny's bullshit outside the walls, and his final words.

IT HURTS

No shit dude, you and your little dragon girl shoulda been dead almost immediately.

Guess you were kept upright and safe(ish) by the Power of Friendship, and Plot Armor.

I was so ready to see Jon take a full blast of coldfire and remain standing, what with being an undead Targaryen and all.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: deskoft on April 29, 2019, 10:07:07 PM
Yeah, I do think it could have been interesting to see a major character die for them to reinforce the believability of the plotline - which is what made the books popular in the first place. They are believably gruesome.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on April 30, 2019, 03:16:37 AM
Dothraki: I don't think the full frontal charge was planned, and the brief interaction between Dany 'my people are dying' Targ and Jon 'stick to the fucking plan' Snow supports this IMO.  They're basic barbarians who got literally fired up by magic and got overexcited.  Dothraki charge, it's what they've always done, and I think the sudden surge in morale might have been too much for them to resist falling back on what has literally always worked for them up until now.  The real shame is that we didn't get to see a horde of blue eyed Dothraki charging back the other way after a few minutes.  Either way, there was some beautiful imagery in this scene and the soundtrack was on point.

Theon: Reek died moments before Theon did.  I think this was the best ending he could have ever hoped for.  Fully redeemed.

Mormonts: Jorah was always going to die defending Dany.  The one failure here IMO is that he's been guarding her for umpteen years and never saw fit to give her some basic combat training.  I mean c'mon, more than enough people have tried to kill her already.  I could have done without seeing Lyanna get crushed, but it would have been really stupid for the child on the battlefield to have survived.  At least she got a badass sendoff.  For a few horrible moments I thought that Jorah might end up having to rekill her.

Melisandre: She had one job, and she did it.  That closeup shot with the flames in Mel's eyes will be my wallpaper for quite a while.  Choosing to end her own life at the end changed my opinion of her quite a lot.  She was utterly devoted to a worthy cause, to the point that she was postponing the end she craved.  I can at least partly forgive a lot of the heinous shit she did to accomplish this.

Beric: See Melisandre. 

Arya: Awesome, and I'm happy enough for her to have landed the blow.  There have been enough hints and circumstances that retroactively seem to point towards this happening that it doesn't seem as out of the blue as some are suggesting.

The Hound: Dude really needs to stop freaking out during sieges or his Badass Card is gonna be revoked.  Mostly made up for this time by snapping out of it the moment Arya needed him.

Misc: Jon must have thought he shouted a dragon to death for at least a few minutes.  Sam should have been in the fucking crypt, Sansa shouldn't have been there.  Are we down to one dragon now?  WTF was Bran warging for?  Seeing Grey Worm terrified was uncomfortable and really helped drive the seriousness of the situation home.  What fucking moron put the siege weapons in front of the infantry?

----

I'd assumed that the next episode would be 'the aftermath' followed by North v South and a wildcard episode in whatever order, but it seems they're going straight to Kings Landing.  I'm quite interested in how they're gonna fill the other two episodes and half expecting some massive twist.  There's a real risk of things seeming anticlimactic now that the 'big bad' is seemingly dealt with.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: azuriolinist on April 30, 2019, 03:43:37 AM
WTF was Bran warging for?

Yeah, seriously. WTF?!

Besides the terrible tactics and clear plot armor, I thought this was a beautiful and absolutely epic episode. And the MUSIC during the last scene, holy shit.

Lyanna Mormont was a major badass. And agreed, lordcooper. They ended Theon's story and tied everything up wonderfully. Dammit, Theon.

I also loved the glimpse of fear and desperation Melisandre showed as she struggled to set the trench on fire. It showed a normal, human side to her after everything unnatural she's done and been portrayed as.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on April 30, 2019, 04:12:00 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/biuopi/how_the_dothraki_charge_actually_went_down/
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Post by: Synthesis on April 30, 2019, 04:27:38 AM
I don't have a problem with the plot armor.  It's too late in the series to start killing off important characters, because there isn't enough time to replace them with characters that we give a shit about.

My main gripe is that it seemed like they were saving their CGI budget by making everything so god damn dark.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: azuriolinist on April 30, 2019, 06:52:53 AM
https://www.reddit.com/r/freefolk/comments/biuopi/how_the_dothraki_charge_actually_went_down/

It all makes sense now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: bynja turtle on April 30, 2019, 08:54:03 AM
Also why did they choose to sacrifice the Unsullied as part of Plan A? Literally only needed half or less to stall.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on April 30, 2019, 11:45:44 AM
WTF was Bran warging for?

Yeah, seriously. WTF?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KoKBRJwOpE
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on April 30, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
WTF was Bran warging for?

Yeah, seriously. WTF?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KoKBRJwOpE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184Cbr0ZTEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTBufzvpJNg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUu4VC4ziKA

Trae Crowder is brilliant.  I saw him live twice, I love him so much!  The first time I even got to meet him.   ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on April 30, 2019, 02:57:04 PM
WTF was Bran warging for?

Yeah, seriously. WTF?!

Besides the terrible tactics and clear plot armor, I thought this was a beautiful and absolutely epic episode. And the MUSIC during the last scene, holy shit.

Lyanna Mormont was a major badass. And agreed, lordcooper. They ended Theon's story and tied everything up wonderfully. Dammit, Theon.

I also loved the glimpse of fear and desperation Melisandre showed as she struggled to set the trench on fire. It showed a normal, human side to her after everything unnatural she's done and been portrayed as.

For a second I thought the Lord of Light was going to troll her again.

All I want before the show is over is for Tyrion to live and a scene where Jon walks through fire naked like Dany did all those times now that we know he's a dragon daddy.
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Post by: Namino on April 30, 2019, 03:00:44 PM
All I want before the show is over is for Tyrion to live and a scene where Jon walks through fire naked like Dany did all those times now that we know he's a dragon daddy.

Dunno, it'd be inconsistent for Jon because he's already been susceptible to fire:

https://youtu.be/ADvjQ7hIFMQ?t=47

Edit: Dany shouldn't be immune to fire either, by the by. GMM said that example of survival was because of the dragon rebirth, not because of her bloodline. The show ran with it and made her full on fire immune but even going exclusively by the show, Jon can be burned.

I think that's a Dany exclusive superpower...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: mansa on April 30, 2019, 04:46:18 PM
https://youtu.be/k1frgt0D_f4?t=281
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on April 30, 2019, 07:00:06 PM
I finally figured out why that one noble house stayed at Deepwood Motte.

They were Glovers, not Gfighters.
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Post by: Cerelum on April 30, 2019, 07:03:01 PM
I finally figured out why that one noble house stayed at Deepwood Motte.

They were Glovers, not Gfighters.

Ba dump bump chhhhhh.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 05, 2019, 10:30:44 PM
Updating for the death bracket!

Strikethrough = dead
Green = likely safe


Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Cersei Lannister
Jamie Lannister
Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Yara Greyjoy
Theon Greyjoy
Melisandre
Jorah Mormont
The Hound
The Mountain
Samwell Tarly
Gilly
Sam (Child)
Lord Varys
Brienne of Tarth
Davos Seaworth
Bronn
Podrick Payne
Tormund Giantsbane
Grey Worm
Gendry
Beric Dondarrion
Euron Greyjoy
Missandei

Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)
2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)
Arya Stark
3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)
No.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 05, 2019, 10:42:28 PM
I've got some bad news folks.

There was a list of plot points that everyone wrote off as some trolly conspiracy theory, but literally everything in this episode was predicted and none of their predictions were wrong.

If everything else on that list turns out to be true it appears GoT is going to end with a Dexter-tier ending.
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Post by: triste on May 05, 2019, 11:30:32 PM
The guy who is winning the death pool I am running at work has a bet that Circe is going to keep the throne. It's looking more likely each episode.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on May 05, 2019, 11:32:12 PM
I've got some bad news folks.

There was a list of plot points that everyone wrote off as some trolly conspiracy theory, but literally everything in this episode was predicted and none of their predictions were wrong.

If everything else on that list turns out to be true it appears GoT is going to end with a Dexter-tier ending.

So yeah if by Dexter-tier ending you mean Deb dies, I am betting on that. If you mean Dexter-tier ending like Dexter becomes a lumberjack, I hope not.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 05, 2019, 11:41:31 PM
I've got some bad news folks.

There was a list of plot points that everyone wrote off as some trolly conspiracy theory, but literally everything in this episode was predicted and none of their predictions were wrong.

If everything else on that list turns out to be true it appears GoT is going to end with a Dexter-tier ending.

So yeah if by Dexter-tier ending you mean Deb dies, I am betting on that. If you mean Dexter-tier ending like Dexter becomes a lumberjack, I hope not.

Dexter tier as in nobody gets satisfaction and it will likely go down as one of the bigger end-of-series writing flubs. Turns out it's much easier to make a TV show when the entire plot and all the dialogue are already written for you.  ;D

Who would have thought the minds behind timeless classics such as X-men Origins: Wolverine wouldn't be able to hold all this weight?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 05, 2019, 11:47:20 PM
I'm really getting sick of Bran, he has access to all the history of the world, by touching a tree and he's not answering any of the questions that matter.

Is there still magic in the world, if so, how do you control it?

Are there more nature troll things like where Hodor died?

And a ton of othershit, but no, he just sits there being all mysterious and lame.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 06, 2019, 12:01:23 AM
Grrr.

I'm already kinda mad that Jon didn't at least pet his dog on the head before sending him away.

At least this episode kinda started steering things back to some good old fashioned murder, corruption, and betrayal.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: mansa on May 06, 2019, 12:08:23 AM
Prediction:

Cersei dies to Tyrion
The mountain dies to the hound
Arya kills qyban

Jon dies.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 06, 2019, 12:36:31 AM
Things I liked:
*The Night King's corpse is barely warm and the politics and infighting resumes.
*Bronn busting in looking genuinely undecided about killing Jaime and Tyrion.  Ends up asking for a bigger castle.  The balls on that guy...
*Pod.  What a legend.

Things I didn't like:
*The theme of tonight's episode is... rejection?
*PET THE DOGGY.  THAT GOOD BOI LOST AN EAR BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID BATTLE TACTICS.
*Brienne of fucking Tarth sobbing over a boy.
*More fast-travel and electric ravens.
*Daenerys showing up at the gates of King's Landing with a pathetic cadre.  What is she even there for?  She can't possibly think she's negotiating with a position of strength at that point, and Cersei has been proven utterly untrustworthy even in the face of the end of the world.
*Cersei with a literally wall of archers and artillery not unloading on her mortal enemy.  Just... why?  She could have killed Daenarys easily, probably could have killed the LAST REMAINING DRAGON.  Do they really expect me to believe that Cersei believes "parley" is still sacred or something?  SHE BLEW UP THE FUCKING SEPT.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 06, 2019, 12:38:46 AM
Things I liked:
*The Night King's corpse is barely warm and the politics and infighting resumes.
*Bronn busting in looking genuinely undecided about killing Jaime and Tyrion.  Ends up asking for a bigger castle.  The balls on that guy...
*Pod.  What a legend.

Things I didn't like:
*The theme of tonight's episode is... rejection?
*PET THE DOGGY.  THAT GOOD BOI LOST AN EAR BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID BATTLE TACTICS.
*Brienne of fucking Tarth sobbing over a boy.
*More fast-travel and electric ravens.
*Daenerys showing up at the gates of King's Landing with a pathetic cadre.  What is she even there for?  She can't possibly think she's negotiating with a position of strength at that point, and Cersei has been proven utterly untrustworthy even in the face of the end of the world.
*Cersei with a literally wall of archers and artillery not unloading on her mortal enemy.  Just... why?  She could have killed Daenarys easily, probably could have killed the LAST REMAINING DRAGON.  Do they really expect me to believe that Cersei believes "parley" is still sacred or something?  SHE BLEW UP THE FUCKING SEPT.

Yeah I sorta agree with this.  You can tell this last season is sorta hodgepodge put together.

Due to not having a masterpiece of a book to follow, they are just winging it and I'm worried the last two episodes are just gonna be fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 01:09:07 AM
Grrr.

I'm already kinda mad that Jon didn't at least pet his dog on the head before sending him away.

At least this episode kinda started steering things back to some good old fashioned murder, corruption, and betrayal.

Same!  Not petting the doggo was easily the most upsetting part of this episode.  Were they trying to emphasize he's not a doggo?  I don't care.  Sam got a hug.  Surely the doggo can get a hug.

Okay, just deadpan cutting off the dragon was messed up, but not petting the doggo?  Worse.

Missandei's death was sad, but it was clean death.  The most sickening part was her being back in chains.  She was a loyal servant.  RIP.  But we all kinda new with you and Grey Worm talking about happily ever after it wasn't going to happen.

I have to say Jaime's acting in the scene where he leaves Brienne as so fucking good.  The look on his face.  I was so surprised when he was going to stay.  I was like aw, fuck yeah.  Then he left and I was like ... dang it.  DANG IT!

I feel like this episode had the feel of some of the older episodes so I appreciated that a lot.

I will say to Moe's point it does feel like there are a lot of plot holes, but I feel like it's just because they don't have the books to go off of.  It's one thing to have George RR say here's a round about idea and be able to go over texts he's lovingly, and painstakingly crafted.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 01:47:18 AM
(https://preview.redd.it/rmmskkqsmiw21.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f3cc38251b430f34895b5a2fd1a3fe7a762e3759)

(https://preview.redd.it/p1leeosyniw21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d424b8bbcc0c92df93cf7daec319152e3cee87fc)

(https://preview.redd.it/3hvxutnociw21.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a0af96d11b5396e7bc20c6cdc00aa2b85851a9dc)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 06, 2019, 08:43:42 AM
Dany and her pumpkin spice after a hard fought victory.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Wa94nm_HWdQYG6W1N1ZoBEvgGfU=/0x0:2040x1360/1200x800/filters:focal(1606x983:1932x1309)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63737455/got_coffee2.0.jpg)


(https://i0.wp.com/media0dk-a.akamaihd.net/33/15/5e93f79c5473a2b220846cee2c86f599.jpg?w=600)

(https://media0dk-a.akamaihd.net/50/66/73903e627a93074a48400177344f0913.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Riev on May 06, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
This wasn't my favorite episode of the season, but Emilia Clarke said that next week's is supposed to be the "really big one" that people will be talking about.

I can't believe a small fleet of ships + 2 dragons were somehow completely unable to scout the area around their destination, got ransacked by Euron, and 'only' Missandei got captured?

Or that Tyrion still wholly believes in an entitled teenage Essos princess who can't decide if she is destined to be Queen of the 7 Kingdoms of "the one who will stop all tyrants" or "someone who really doesn't like slavery"...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 06, 2019, 10:18:51 AM
Yeah, I really am not liking the writing, besides the whole Arya killing the Night King, this season has been pretty fucking bad.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 06, 2019, 10:23:11 AM
Dialogue has been maximum cheese at every avenue.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 12:00:52 PM
It's getting hella contrived, but like ... I mean we all know why.  We here for the TV show at this point.  Not the masterful books.  Just gotta work a little harder to suspend reality.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on May 06, 2019, 01:30:48 PM
Episode 4 was the first of the season I really didn't care for.  I thought it was hard to buy into a lot of things that happened.  Disapointing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 06, 2019, 01:33:08 PM
So many things the show missed that would have made for interesting arcs.  Like Katarin Stark coming back as an undead. Or whatever the fuck she was.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on May 06, 2019, 01:36:37 PM
What are these “masterful books” being referenced? The story is great but the writing is cringeworthy at best throughout especially if reread after the age of 13.

This episode lost me a bit but waiting till the end. If I don’t get Cleganebowl I’ll piss.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 01:39:31 PM
What are these “masterful books” being referenced? The story is great but the writing is cringeworthy at best throughout especially if reread after the age of 13.

This episode lost me a bit but waiting till the end. If I don’t get Cleganebowl I’ll piss.

 ::) Pardon me on my liberal use of the word masterful.  Simply pointing out the source material is gone, which is far superior in comparison to the show writers trying to hastily wind to a conclusion.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 01:41:36 PM
Dany and her pumpkin spice after a hard fought victory.
(https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/Wa94nm_HWdQYG6W1N1ZoBEvgGfU=/0x0:2040x1360/1200x800/filters:focal(1606x983:1932x1309)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/63737455/got_coffee2.0.jpg)


(https://i0.wp.com/media0dk-a.akamaihd.net/33/15/5e93f79c5473a2b220846cee2c86f599.jpg?w=600)

Are you seriously implying Dany is a basic b?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Delirium on May 06, 2019, 01:45:45 PM
There is a starbucks cup in that screenshot with Tormund, Jon, and Dany, and r/freefolk are losing their minds over it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 01:56:12 PM
There is a starbucks cup in that screenshot with Tormund, Jon, and Dany, and r/freefolk are losing their minds over it.

OMG.  How do people even notice this stuff?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Medena on May 06, 2019, 02:29:02 PM
This is a video of some people in a bar watching one of the high points of last week's show (episode 3).  It's very entertaining.  :-)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5wm3fY5pCY
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Strongheart on May 06, 2019, 03:43:17 PM
https://youtu.be/jzEGglEvHeM

Briene and Jaime <3

>:[ mad that he left though, he better come back alive! preferably with Cersei's head
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Strongheart on May 06, 2019, 03:52:08 PM
This episode lost me a bit but waiting till the end. If I don’t get Cleganebowl I’ll piss.

With Sandor no longer being the man he once was, seeking his brother out for revenge would be a mountainous (pun intended) step backward for his character. He has already won Cleganebowl, and he won it by playing via different rules - which was moving on. So, as much as I'd like to see a battle between the two Cleganes,  it shouldn't really happen at least not in the way of vengeance. For Sandor's sake and excellent writing... which I find the show-runners sometimes lacking in.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Strongheart on May 06, 2019, 03:53:16 PM
But let's be honest, you just meant that you wanna see them go out at it. Which is totally gonna happen lol
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 06, 2019, 04:33:25 PM
This episode lost me a bit but waiting till the end. If I don’t get Cleganebowl I’ll piss.

With Sandor no longer being the man he once was, seeking his brother out for revenge would be a mountainous (pun intended) step backward for his character. He has already won Cleganebowl, and he won it by playing via different rules - which was moving on. So, as much as I'd like to see a battle between the two Cleganes,  it shouldn't really happen at least not in the way of vengeance. For Sandor's sake and excellent writing... which I find the show-runners sometimes lacking in.

Totally agree.  Also, what if he dies?  That's the thing about GOT.  It's pivoting is unpredictable.  Arya had a list, that is no longer relevant due to her character growth which is why she hasn't killed the Hound.  Remember last dude that tried to take Mountain to task?  The show is never going to meet everyone's expectations.  Seems people kind of forgot part of the fun of the show was their expectations being blatantly defied.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 06, 2019, 04:43:55 PM
The Mountain technically died, so it was a double kill.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Delirium on May 08, 2019, 07:54:30 PM
(https://scontent.fatl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59988467_2246764092038155_7350558204633284608_n.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fatl1-1.fna&oh=686a90dfd8ebfd5deb48c8bc06364919&oe=5D59D3CC)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: BadSkeelz on May 09, 2019, 03:37:03 PM
When the fandom is melting down over their favorite characters getting butchered by writing and you're a Stannis fan:

(https://i.imgur.com/b6Mb125.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 09, 2019, 03:40:40 PM
Barristan Selmy too. </3
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: path on May 09, 2019, 06:55:12 PM
I cribbed this from another arm player.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/7/18535948/game-of-thrones-got-season-8-hbo-final-fan-video-arya-stark-the-hound-buddy-comedy-recut-trailer
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Aruven on May 09, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I've been a GoT fan for as long as I can remember. I hate George R.R Martin as a person though I was so swept by his vision and ability to write I let it slide.

I remember being frustrated when he tapped out on releasing the books because the show was providing another outlet to his writers.

I was frustrated at the character assassination of Stannis Baratheon, who as far as the books are concerned never sacrificed his daughter and who is still alive albeit I think as a prisoner at winterfell. There was always speculation about Jon, because the final book or close to it ended with his death. That's why the moment he was resurrected on the show was such a big deal. Fans for years speculated he was a Targaryen and wouldn't die there.

I think this season, I've been let down by the obvious cave in to viewer demands for the story. I'm honestly just happy to be alive to see some conclusion, it is a long project. I am frustrated that George R.R Martin has let HBo drive the finality of the series. I get that incest is a taboo thing in our culture today, and in Westeros it wasn't, I am also frustrated at the seeming give-in to incest cries that are completely derailing the storyline. And Varys is WRONG AF about starks having incestual marriages in their history, though you'd have to read the book history to know this I think.

TLDR: Beautiful fantasy series, ruined by HBO IMO. Strategy, storyline, acting. I might not even watch the last two episodes.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 09, 2019, 09:32:09 PM
All I know is if Netflix does my boy Geralt as dirty as HBO has ASOIAF, I'm permanently done with TV adaptations.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Synthesis on May 09, 2019, 09:41:24 PM
This season is trash.  I'll still watch to see where it goes, but goddamn.  Since S8E1, I haven't looked forward to watching the next episode at all.  It's more like..."okay, let's see what kind of bullshit they're going to pull THIS time."
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 10, 2019, 12:39:47 AM
All I know is if Netflix does my boy Geralt as dirty as HBO has ASOIAF, I'm permanently done with TV adaptations.

Cowboy BEBOP fan here.  How do you think I feel about the live action shit they're pulling on Netflix, fam?  Ein is a husky?  I think not.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 10, 2019, 01:10:09 PM
I actually don't think HBO or "viewer pressure" is to blame.  From what I'm reading, HBO told the show-runners they can have as many episodes as they want, and ratings certainly weren't declining during season 6.  It was their choice to shorten the series.  I think the problem really is just having run out of source material, and while the producers may have been good at adapting Martin's work, they're just not very good writers themselves.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 10, 2019, 01:21:43 PM
I actually don't think HBO or "viewer pressure" is to blame.  From what I'm reading, HBO told the show-runners they can have as many episodes as they want, and ratings certainly weren't declining during season 6.  It was their choice to shorten the series.  I think the problem really is just having run out of source material, and while the producers may have been good at adapting Martin's work, they're just not very good writers themselves.

The brilliant mind behind X-men Origins: Wolverine?! Excuse me while I go clutch my pearls.

More seriously, I agree with this. They're rushing as hard as possible because they want to clear their plate so they can focus 100% on the three Star Wars movies they've just been given.

So it'll be nice to watch these idiots kill another beloved franchise.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on May 10, 2019, 01:36:07 PM
Yeah I'm boycotting that shit for sure.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on May 11, 2019, 04:26:36 PM
In fairness, I'm sure they're less than happy about signing up to do an adaptation and ending up having to finish the piece themselves.

I also think people are giving the show a bit too much of a hard time, possibly due to inflated expectations.  Sure, it isn't at the same level of quality as previous seasons, but it's still a damn sight better than any other fantasy series I've seen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 11, 2019, 07:01:46 PM
"A girl is finally Noone."

kill me

"No, my name is Arya Stark, and I'M GOING HOME!"

KILL ME
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: BadSkeelz on May 12, 2019, 01:41:29 PM
The writers (D&D) can do legitimately great scenes and frequently did earlier on. Most of the scenes with Tywin (including those with Arya), all the scenes between Varys and Littlefinger... What changed was that they stopped caring. We can see the rot setting in a few seasons ago.

HBO didn't want the series to end now. They were willing to pay for more seasons. And why shouldn't they? GoT is a huge Cash cow with no real replacement on the horizon. It was D&D's choice to end it as it is.

I wonder what the terms of the agreement between the show runners, HBO and Martin are. Because HBO probably should have replaced D&D a couple of seasons back with those who have passion for the material and, maybe, feel more comfortable writing a conclusion for it. D&D just want to fuck off to Star Wars.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 12, 2019, 05:42:11 PM
I'm just hoping these last to episodes aren't just a bunch of fucking talking with no substance like the first two.

And I'm hoping that Arya gets to kill Cersei.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: flurry on May 12, 2019, 06:27:28 PM
Emilia Clarke implied that Episode 5 would be crazier than Episode 3, so I'm expecting something action packed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 12, 2019, 10:26:52 PM
Updating for the death bracket!

Strikethrough = dead
Green = likely safe


Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Cersei Lannister
Jamie Lannister
Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Yara Greyjoy
Theon Greyjoy
Melisandre
Jorah Mormont
The Hound
The Mountain
Samwell Tarly
Gilly
Sam (Child)
Lord Varys
Brienne of Tarth
Davos Seaworth
Bronn
Podrick Payne
Tormund Giantsbane
Grey Worm
Gendry
Beric Dondarrion
Euron Greyjoy
Missandei

Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)
2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)
Arya Stark
3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
Pregnant

2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)
No.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 12, 2019, 10:28:26 PM
Welp it went from kill Cersie to kill Dany for Arya.

Jon is gonna sit on the throne because Dany is a crazy Targaryen.

The mountain and hound fight was shitty.  White walkers can die but the undead creation of the one creepy old dude was somehow stronger than the Night King. Bullshit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: triste on May 12, 2019, 10:42:59 PM
Thank you for updating the bracket Moe!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 12, 2019, 10:44:41 PM
The cinematography on Arya's last scene was excellent.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 12, 2019, 10:45:50 PM
The Good:
*CLEGANEBOWL worth the hype.

*Dragon finally being put to good use, with good tactics, though we must accept the MacGuffin that Drogon is simply the best dragon.

*Pretty excellent city disaster sequences.

The Bad:
*This probably came up in commentary about the last episode, but for a political mastermind, it was really stupid of Varys to be so open with his thoughts of betraying his queen.

*That said, wouldn't it make more sense for Daenarys to assume Bran or Sam spilled the secret?  She knows nothing about Bran's motives (no one does) and all she knows about Sam is that she BBQed his family.

*OK... just because they HEAVILY telegraphed it doesn't make Daenarys' turnabout make any more sense.  She had just executed a FLAWLESS victory.  Only the Red Keep reserve garrison stood between her and the Iron Throne.  She knew what the bells meant.  No one she loved was in danger at that moment.  I thought maybe she was just going to go melt Cersei.  Is it the curse of her family?  I'm not disappointed that it happened, but I'm disappointed that it's so poorly explained.

*I'm usually a fan of subtlety, but with a plot this complicated (and this jumbled, at the end), the green flames needed some exposition.  I'm assuming it means that Cersei had rigged the whole city to explode, had she lost the war?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 12, 2019, 10:46:22 PM
Best episode of the season.

Who's gonna kill Dany?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 12, 2019, 10:47:13 PM
Sigh. The leaks that dropped before episode 4 now are 10/10 for both 4 and 5.

So 6 ain't lookin' good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 12, 2019, 10:47:30 PM
The mountain and hound fight was shitty.  White walkers can die but the undead creation of the one creepy old dude was somehow stronger than the Night King. Bullshit.

Yeah but Arya stabbed the Night King with, essentially, a kryptonite dagger.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 12, 2019, 10:50:59 PM
Best episode of the season.

Who's gonna kill Dany?

Arya hopefully.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 12, 2019, 10:53:09 PM
I mean. Is this a thread for SPOILER SPOILERS? Because I wouldn't hate bitching a week in advance about the next episode with y'all.  :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 12, 2019, 10:56:23 PM
I'd prefer it just be post-episode spoilers, personally.  While it hasn't been great, at least it hasn't been completely predictable.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 12, 2019, 11:00:12 PM
I mean. Is this a thread for SPOILER SPOILERS? Because I wouldn't hate bitching a week in advance about the next episode with y'all.  :o
I will murder your PC and their mate if you spoil before the episode airs.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 12, 2019, 11:02:56 PM
I mean. Is this a thread for SPOILER SPOILERS? Because I wouldn't hate bitching a week in advance about the next episode with y'all.  :o
I will murder your PC and their mate if you spoil before the episode airs.

Jokes on you, I don't even play anymore!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/RX3vhj311HKLe/giphy.gif)

On a serious note, I figured that'd be the reaction and I'm not one for spoiling.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 12, 2019, 11:03:51 PM
I would say only spoilers after or during the current episode has been launched.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 12, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
I mean. Is this a thread for SPOILER SPOILERS? Because I wouldn't hate bitching a week in advance about the next episode with y'all.  :o
I will murder your PC and their mate if you spoil before the episode airs.

Jokes on you, I don't even play anymore!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/RX3vhj311HKLe/giphy.gif)

On a serious note, I figured that'd be the reaction and I'm not one for spoiling.
I will murder everyone you've ever mudsexed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 12, 2019, 11:09:17 PM
I mean. Is this a thread for SPOILER SPOILERS? Because I wouldn't hate bitching a week in advance about the next episode with y'all.  :o
I will murder your PC and their mate if you spoil before the episode airs.

Jokes on you, I don't even play anymore!

(https://media.giphy.com/media/RX3vhj311HKLe/giphy.gif)

On a serious note, I figured that'd be the reaction and I'm not one for spoiling.
I will murder everyone you've ever mudsexed.

You don't have enough throwing knives.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 12, 2019, 11:11:13 PM
You can re-use the club you sap with.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 12, 2019, 11:57:43 PM
They smashed over the head with the WILDFIRE BENEATH THE CITY last season
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: manipura on May 13, 2019, 12:06:47 AM
*I'm usually a fan of subtlety, but with a plot this complicated (and this jumbled, at the end), the green flames needed some exposition.  I'm assuming it means that Cersei had rigged the whole city to explode, had she lost the war?

Aerys was a big fan of wildfire (well...and of burning in general) and when he was getting old and crazy and paranoid he had caches of it hidden all around the city.  At the end of Robert’s Rebellion the plan was that Aerys would have his guy set the plan in motion to burn the city down and he would rise from the ashes as a dragon.  Jamie killed them both before the plan got going and the stashes of wildfire remained hidden.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 13, 2019, 12:19:07 AM
Okay.  I tried to be along for the ride but fuck this show and what they did to Jaime and Cersei's lame ass death by rocks.  So disappointed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 13, 2019, 12:36:09 AM
Okay.  I tried to be along for the ride but fuck this show and what they did to Jaime and Cersei's lame ass death by rocks.  So disappointed.

My problem moreso with it was that he should have never made it to her in the first place.

He had both of his ribs stabbed on each side, by about a foot long blade.

Then somehow he climbs all sorts of stairs and navigates tunnels to make it to Cersei.  Fuck that shit.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 13, 2019, 12:46:25 AM
My problem is that they butchered his entire arc of character development to get him back to Cersei. Why? Seriously, why? To glorify a horribly toxic relationship?

Jamie Lannister, of giving up his personal honor and reputation by stabbing Aerys II fame, stated he doesn't care about the innocent people of Kings Landing? Twenty years ago he gave up everything in order to protect those people. Are you trying to convince me he's an even shittier person now than when the series started?

These writers should be placed under very careful supervision by competent people until they've proven they can maintain internal consistency within their storytelling.

And while I'm ranting:

(https://i.redd.it/b3h8sbkdxvx21.jpg)

They can't even maintain EXTERNAL consistency in their interviews.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 13, 2019, 12:49:47 AM
The last scene with Cersei and Jamie was quite touching if somewhat hokey.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 13, 2019, 12:54:13 AM
The last scene with Cersei and Jamie was quite touching if somewhat hokey.

Yet she had literally sent an assassin to kill him one episode previously.

Again, no internal consistency.

Lena killed it. Her begging not to let her die was incredible. The acting this season has been phenomenal, but the actors/actresses' backs much be BREAKING carrying the weight of this horrifically bad writing. Characters can't keep consistent motivation from episode to episode. Sometimes they can't even manage to maintain their motivations from the beginning to the end of a scene for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 13, 2019, 01:22:37 AM
Someone trying hard to change but falling back into their destructive addiction is a very real story and it was executed okay. Just because Cersie wanted to kill Jamie for leaving doesn't mean when the world is burning around her she wouldn't immediately need him back.

I really enjoyed this episode. My only problem was Varys being killed instead of vanishing away and being a thorn in Danys side like the political manipulator he should be. The whole battle and perspective from the commoners and Arya was great.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on May 13, 2019, 11:37:06 AM
Fucking Garbage. Writers Bailed on the show so they could do star wars.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: BadSkeelz on May 13, 2019, 03:52:00 PM
I liked that Cersei died by falling rocks. No character should be owed anything, including a dignified death (whether dealing or receiving). A mad queen dying as her world literally crumbles down on top of her is a fitting GoT death.

I liked that the "good guys" raped and sacked King's Landing. This is what armies do when they take cities by assault. It should remind people that war is hell, no matter who is winning.

I like Mad Queen Daenerys, but they needed a season of foreshadowing. Not two episodes. And if they really want to do it that quickly, they needed to plot it better. One of the best suggestions I saw was moving Rhaegals death from an idiotic naval engagement to the Assault. Have Daenerys take the walls, let the bells ring out, but have Rhaegal die at the last minute by Scorpion shot. And have the people CHEER this. Have Daenerys realize she isn't a liberator, that her children are seen as monsters, and have That be what breaks her.

Also she should have nuked the city a season ago.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: BadSkeelz on May 13, 2019, 03:53:44 PM
Alternatively, they needed a montage of Daenerys youth where she was constantly assaulted with bells. Like just have Viserys walk in and chuck one at her face.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Harmless on May 13, 2019, 04:58:28 PM
Dany's madness was totes forced by the episode cap. It didn't feel like it made sense to me. Just leaves me dissatisfied and wanting an alternate story. Which is why I just play roleplaying games to get most of my fun anyhow!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on May 13, 2019, 06:12:17 PM
I liked it.

Cleganebowl was great.

It's funny that even in the 'Inside the Episode', D&D don't acknowledge Cleganebowl was a thing. As if they came up with the idea themselves. LOSERS!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on May 13, 2019, 06:24:38 PM
Dany has been shown to have a wide vindictive streak and seek OTT vengeance, starting multiple seasons ago.  Crucifying the Masters (incl the relatively decent ones), burning the witch, conquering and sacking multiple cities that descended into anarchy the moment she left, she forces that dude to marry her at dragon point etc etc

Add in increasing paranoia, Jon's revelation, two of her 'children' dying, and losing basically all her friends in rapid succession, and I'm really not surprised she'd snap.

That said

moving Rhaegals death from an idiotic naval engagement to the Assault. Have Daenerys take the walls, let the bells ring out, but have Rhaegal die at the last minute by Scorpion shot. And have the people CHEER this. Have Daenerys realize she isn't a liberator, that her children are seen as monsters, and have That be what breaks her.

would have been better.

Varys died with honour, Cleganebowl ended how it always should have, every scene with Arya kicked arse, and Jon's actor fucking nailed it.  Anyone bitching about Jaime returning to Cersei better have neither loved someone truly awful or had an addiction.  Dany is so fucking lucky that Arya didn't die, she'd have gone out worse than Ramsay.  I think there's about even chances of Jon sitting on the Iron throne or fucking off beyond the wall (or what's left of it), either way, I'm sure he has a bone to pick with Dany right now.  Sucks to be Brienne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on May 13, 2019, 06:27:15 PM
My feeling is Dany is going to die, Tyrion is de-facto King being her hand, and abdicates to Jon, who dissolves the Iron Throne and everyone fucks a tree.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on May 13, 2019, 06:36:45 PM
Arya kills Dany, Jon gets the throne, but gives it up to Sansa who rules with Tyrion, then he heads north with Professor X (Bran) and the wildlings.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on May 13, 2019, 06:53:30 PM
Remind me what the fuck the point of Bran and the Three Eyed Raven was again?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Bebop on May 13, 2019, 07:01:08 PM
Jaime's story arc was utterly fucking pointless.

When Euron randomly came up out the see as Jamie was walking by I couldn't groan load enough.  This shit unfolding like a gd video game boss battle.  It felt like this the whole time with characters reuniting with one another and shit.  Like there's a huge ass castle burning down around them and Jamie finds Cersei.  Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Last dragon gets ganked.  New strat? Just charge tf out of the ships and obliterate everything with one dragon effortlessly.  Why did we even have three dragons up to this point?

Varys, Littlefinger and Tyrion are all known for their connections.  They're all known to serve morally ambiguous people (to say the least) to stay alive.  But in this epsiode Varys apparently turns into a bumbling idiot with no sense or logic of self-preservation and thinks it's a legit idea to tell Jon to depose Dany.  What?  WHAT?

Varys is the very person that recruited fucking Tyrion.  So then Tyrion tattles on him, throws him under the bus for treason --- then turns right around and frees Jaimie.  So he had his friend killed for why?  Clearly not because he's above treasonous acts.

None of the characters are acting like themselves.  And it's not one season in.  They've literally just dumped all character consistency ONE episode from the finish line.  I was SO disappointed in that episode.

For the record my bet is also on Tyrion Sansa combo for the throne.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 13, 2019, 07:41:25 PM
Yup the writing has gone to shit, this is what happens when they focus on shows over books.

Shows and movies should always come after books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 13, 2019, 08:56:16 PM
Anyone bitching about Jaime returning to Cersei better have neither loved someone truly awful or had an addiction.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: WarriorPoet on May 13, 2019, 10:58:07 PM
Yeah this show has kind of turned into a sloppy shit sandwich. Clegane Bowl 6000 was fairly cool, at least.

I hope the last episode is just Podrick wrecking tang and Dany accidentally feeding herself to the dragon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: MeTekillot on May 13, 2019, 11:11:41 PM
dracarys, penetration, dracarys, full penetration, dracarys, penetration
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 15, 2019, 09:21:42 PM
(https://i.ibb.co/VvrVgz1/60356757-10100665275052271-5964806948112039936-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RCZ23sF)


(https://i.ibb.co/whcBQPp/60411085-10100665285476381-7103055147923668992-n.jpg) (https://ibb.co/chYk8Z2)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on May 15, 2019, 09:38:34 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 19, 2019, 10:30:12 PM
Final tally!

Strikethrough = dead
Green = alive


Character             Alive       Dead      Become White Walker
Jon Snow
Sansa Stark
Arya Stark
Bran Stark
Cersei Lannister
Jamie Lannister
Tyrion Lannister
Daenerys Targaryen
Yara Greyjoy
Theon Greyjoy
Melisandre
Jorah Mormont
The Hound
The Mountain
Samwell Tarly
Gilly
Sam (Child)
Lord Varys
Brienne of Tarth
Davos Seaworth
Bronn
Podrick Payne
Tormund Giantsbane
Grey Worm
Gendry
Beric Dondarrion
Euron Greyjoy
Missandei

Bonus Questions:
1. Is Daenerys pregnant? (1 extra point)
No.

2. Who kills the Night King? (2 points)
Arya Stark

3. Who holds the Iron Throne at the end? (4 points)
Technically no one, but really Bran Stark.

Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
Pregnant

2. Will Sean Bean die twice? (3 points)
No.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Namino on May 19, 2019, 10:32:53 PM
Me irl:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/614VmsFwoNL._SX425_.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 19, 2019, 10:39:51 PM
Yep.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Refugee on May 19, 2019, 10:47:25 PM
Well my bracket was busted all to heck.  Way too many people survived!

It was kinda unsatisfying, this last episode.  Trying to cram too much into one episode maybe.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 19, 2019, 10:57:24 PM
I mean... I guess at least it wasn't predictable.

*Seems all that wonderful cinematography with Arya last episode was pointless.  Though, if she had killed Daenerys then I suppose Jon would have been pointless.

*The only thing more cringe-worthy than Samwell proposing democracy was the over-the-top hurr-hurr-durr rejection of it.

*Maybe making the boy-wizard who can see the future King is a rational choice, however I can only assume the reason the lords of Westeros agreed was because it gave their families a shot at the throne come 60 years or so?

*The peasants of the North don't seem to want to be independent, they just want to be ruled by a Stark.  Bran is a Stark.  I mean... Sansa didn't even bother asking if they were cool with Bran being uber-king.  She just assumed they're rather have her at the top... oh.... maybe she's smart after all.

*Was this really all in according to Bran's plan, though?  So he told Jon about his heritage not to see him on the throne, but to contribute to Daenerys' isolation/madness, push her over the edge, and then make Jon kill her?  Wouldn't that, in fact, make him ultimately responsible for the massacre of King's Landing and a horrifically evil monster?

*Arya sails to the West like some elf.  I mean, sure, why not.  I guess there's nothing else for her to do.

*Lastly, why were the Wildlings waiting at Castle Black?  Why do they need Jon to guide them back through their own homelands?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Cerelum on May 19, 2019, 11:00:12 PM
It was shitty, well the whole stabbing her while awkward drenching her was great.

The whole Arya becoming Dora the Explorer was lame.

Bran the broken, I almost threw up in my mouth it was so badly done.

Why is Tormund at the wall? Why are they just randomly riding into the wildling area?

So many half-assed things.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: BadSkeelz on May 19, 2019, 11:14:27 PM
While we're on the subject of radioactive disasters, Chernobyl is a good show.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 19, 2019, 11:26:32 PM
And while we're choosing monarchs based on their stories... Arya had a way better story.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Marauder Moe on May 19, 2019, 11:27:12 PM
While we're on the subject of radioactive disasters, Chernobyl is a good show.

This is true.  I'm enjoying it so far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Is Friday on May 19, 2019, 11:32:10 PM
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Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 20, 2019, 12:37:18 AM
I was expecting something much worse the whole way through based on how people treated the leaks.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Tiktak on May 20, 2019, 12:50:21 AM
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Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Krath on May 20, 2019, 01:49:35 AM
Garbage.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 20, 2019, 02:11:58 AM
Story-wise, I was fine with this. The execution was poorly done and rushed. Despite all the effort they put into glorious battles and effects, it's like trying to sprinkle glitter and perfume onto a steaming pile of shit (the writing). There's only so much that can be done. The actors all portrayed their characters exceptionally, regardless of what piss-poor writing they had to follow.

Edited to add:
My favorite, from all the reactions, was this comment; “Can't believe Sam invented democracy and they all laughed, but then they thought ‘Hmm yes, this insane teenager who stares at us all the time...my liege,’”
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Veselka on May 20, 2019, 02:26:16 AM
I can't wait for the EPIC VIEWING 18.5 MILLION PEOPLE WHO WATCHED THE FINALE.

And the unpublished 17 million people who unsubscribe from HBO tomorrow.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Synthesis on May 20, 2019, 05:12:11 AM
Trash.
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Post by: Bebop on May 20, 2019, 12:17:10 PM
I didn't hate the ending but I didn't love it.

And I agree with Moe.  If Bran has been just ... tugging the strings and manipulating this all into being at the cost of many lives ... he's the actual bad guy.  And Tyrion would've been smart enough to realize that.  Well early seasons Tyrion anyway.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Medena on May 20, 2019, 01:30:47 PM
I am okay with how everything ended up;  I just don't like how the show took us there at such a breakneck speed this season, especially in this last episode.  The action/story came off as stilted and laughably contrived as a result of the lack of exposition for the many story threads which were tied up so abruptly.  Case in point was the council who chose a new King.   Who were all those dudes?  How did they get there so fast?  Would they really have agreed to something so radical as Brandon as King so fast, based solely all on the pretty lame speech made by Tyrion?   Why would the Dornish guy agree without a fight?

One thing I did like very much though was that the show and the series ended with the Starks.  It was so fitting and felt so right that the story arc would take us back to those characters with whose personal stories we had begun and with whom many of us were the most engaged throughout the series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on May 20, 2019, 01:35:10 PM
Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
Pregnant

I'm not sure she counts as pregnant.
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Post by: Namino on May 20, 2019, 01:46:09 PM
Extra Bonus Questions:
1. Is Circe pregnant or lying? (1 extra point)
Pregnant

I'm not sure she counts as pregnant.

Cersei: I'm pregnant

Jamie: rides north to Winterfell, 1,500 miles, a minimum 30 day trip

Northern army: infantry march 1,500 miles, a minimum two month trip

Cersei: No visible bump well into the second trimester

Press X to doubt, fellas. Unless Qyburn invented modern pregnancy tests when he wasn't making ballistic missiles so she caught it instantly.

Edit: Actually, she tells Jamie she's knocked up in S7E5. Since then: Jon and Seal Team Six take a boat to Eastwatch (~1900 miles from Dragonstone), They sail back with their wight to Kings Landing (~2100 miles) and meet Cersei, the infantry march north (1,500miles, ships until White Harbour, overland rest), fight the dead, march south (1,500 miles) and take kings landing where Cersei dies.

...She was either lying or that baby got born off screen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: lordcooper on May 20, 2019, 02:01:35 PM
i kinda just meant because she's a bit dead
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Synthesis on May 20, 2019, 02:07:21 PM
I am okay with how everything ended up;  I just don't like how the show took us there at such a breakneck speed this season, especially in this last episode.  The action/story came off as stilted and laughably contrived as a result of the lack of exposition for the many story threads which were tied up so abruptly.  Case in point was the council who chose a new King.   Who were all those dudes?  How did they get there so fast?  Would they really have agreed to something so radical as Brandon as King so fast, based solely all on the pretty lame speech made by Tyrion?   Why would the Dornish guy agree without a fight?

One thing I did like very much though was that the show and the series ended with the Starks.  It was so fitting and felt so right that the story arc would take us back to those characters with whose personal stories we had begun and with whom many of us were the most engaged throughout the series.

I was hoping Jon Snow would stand up to Drogon thinking he'd be invulnerable to dragonfire because he's part Targayahrasdfen, but instead he gets ashed.

I was hoping Arya would be assassinated by one of the Faceless Men.

I was hoping Grey Worm would pull a knife out and just gank Tyrion right there in front of this Council that Grey Worm has zero reasons to give any fucks about.

I was hoping the next-to-last scene would be another massive battle as the Dothraki decide to rape and pillage now that they have nothing better to do, the Unsullied take suicidal vengeance on anyone they thought had anything to do with Dany's death, and there's a gigantic chaotic free-for-all between all the factions with armies at King's Landing.

Then the last scene would be a cut to beyond the wall, showing a new Night King raising the first wights of the next army of the dead.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones - Spoilers thread, SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS
Post by: Insigne on May 24, 2019, 05:52:26 AM
I'm reading an ongoing fan-written script for season 8 and, so far, I think it far surpasses the actual season. Their version spans at least 11 episodes, characters aren't dumbed down for the apparent sake of making others look smarter, and battle tactics are a lot more sensible than what we see in episode 3.

Besides that, it started back in mid-2018 and the writer hasn't seen season 8 yet, so it's a completely different take on the finale of GoT and worth a read in my book.

https://www.aliceshipwise.com/gameofthrones