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General => Code Discussion => Topic started by: Fredd on November 14, 2017, 11:55:04 AM

Title: Lost Emotes
Post by: Fredd on November 14, 2017, 11:55:04 AM
I commonly experience times when i can't get commands into the game. i notice this the most with Say and Emotes. I'll have to spam the thing I was to say, or way, or emote 15-40 times before it will go through.

Anyone else experiencing this? I'm using mudlet, in case that might be it. i don't remember Arm doing this before I took my break. Is there a fix anyone knows of?
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: nauta on November 14, 2017, 11:57:54 AM
I've never experienced that except during lag times.  Perhaps it is your DNS server setup?  Does it happen if you login from the local Starbucks instead of from home?

You could try connecting to arm using the IP address instead: 206.72.201.199.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Riev on November 14, 2017, 11:59:10 AM
I use MUSHClient and have never seen this happen.

Is there lag between these events? Or are those specific commands being eaten but everything else is fine?

maybe there's something with Mudlet and ~ or one of the other special characters?
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Akariel on November 14, 2017, 12:24:36 PM
It's a Mudlet issue. It doesn't happen in any other client from what I can tell.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: sleepyhead on November 14, 2017, 01:05:49 PM
This used to happened to me in CMUD sometimes. Emotes, says, psis--anything that was a bit on the long side. Stopped happening when I switched to MUSHclient.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Fredd on November 14, 2017, 05:53:26 PM
thanks for the information!
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: The Lonely Hunter on November 14, 2017, 05:55:17 PM
I use CMud and I experience this on occasion but not so extreme. It seems to be related to using words that are in multiple triggers or other scripts but that is just a hunch.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Phoenix on November 14, 2017, 09:41:19 PM
It's definitely Mudlet. I also have the same issue. What I do is delete the period at the end of my sentence. Type the period back in. Then enter. And so it usually works and I only have to enter my emote/say/whatever twice instead of a bunch of times.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Namino on November 14, 2017, 10:39:37 PM
I use Mudlet and can confirm this defo happens to me lots.

And not just emotes.

Sometimes, it happens with simple commands.

Like stand.

And flee.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Grogerif on November 14, 2017, 10:50:09 PM
Happens to me once in awhile in mudlet.  Not to the degree most others are complaining about though.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: chrisdcoulombe on November 14, 2017, 11:47:59 PM
I never get fourty but sometimes I have to put commands through more than once.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Fredd on November 15, 2017, 03:04:15 PM
I never get fourty but sometimes I have to put commands through more than once.

It might be impatience, and I did fluff the number a bit, but I did count 27 the other day.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: evilcabbage on November 15, 2017, 07:10:40 PM
mushclient yo
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Phoenix on November 16, 2017, 03:16:01 AM
But to have to run Wine to run Mushclient is meh.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Delirium on November 16, 2017, 12:36:34 PM
I liked Savitar when I was on a mac.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Feco on November 16, 2017, 01:10:15 PM
I do not have this problem in MUSHclient on Windows.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: TheGoose on November 16, 2017, 02:31:01 PM
I've actually had this issue on Mudlet. It doesn't bother me much. What IS strange is that I've never had it until I started playing Armageddon, specifically.

Is this a DikuMud thing?
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: azuriolinist on November 16, 2017, 07:16:14 PM
tintin for the win.

You can try fiddling around with the settings. Open up the 'Settings' and go to 'Special Options'. Check 'Force telnet GA signal interpretation off'. It may, at least, speed up how quickly Mudlet processes commands.

Also, try adding a new line to the end of your prompt (with the prompt command, you can use '\n' to force a new line) if you use a prompt trigger. That (somewhat) worked for me.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Sorry on November 19, 2017, 01:30:31 AM
This happens a lot for me, and is really frustrating - it seems that the problem is with both CMUD and mudlet, and it doesn't happen with any others apart from Armageddon :(
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: CodeMaster on November 20, 2017, 06:11:21 PM
This happens a lot for me, and is really frustrating - it seems that the problem is with both CMUD and mudlet, and it doesn't happen with any others apart from Armageddon :(

zMUD used to gag lines that contained your password, and it genuinely seemed to the victim like the line wasn't getting through.  What's your password? (just kidding)
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Sorry on November 20, 2017, 08:22:34 PM
Oh it's not that because emotes and stuff echo back to you, it just doesn't go through a lot of the time - about 5 other people replied on this thread saying they got the same thing, I remember it was happening years back even, anyone picking it up and trying to do emotes will see it happen fairly often
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: infinitehope on November 20, 2017, 11:54:58 PM
I never get fourty but sometimes I have to put commands through more than once.

Maybe ten to twelve times for me during a play session, usually close together. Then it stops -  on mudlet.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Namino on November 21, 2017, 11:02:46 AM
Losing the command to cyberspace seems highly correlated to how badly I need to stand up after a carru knocks me off my mount.  ::)
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Sorry on January 15, 2018, 09:47:01 PM
It'd be awesome if this could maybe get fixed it's years old now, few people on this thread say CMUD too, hmm, I've noticed it's not just emotes that get lost but Psi too
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Namino on January 16, 2018, 02:12:28 AM
It's literally any command. And it's only for Arm on some clients.

It doesn't happen on any other MUD that I've played with Mudlet.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: sleepyhead on January 16, 2018, 10:18:17 AM
Has anyone ever had the problem with CMUD where when you're sending multiple lines (often comes up when writing backgrounds/bios, descs, rumors, drawings, or written materials) and they come out in the wrong order? And it's weird because if you send them again, they'll end up in the exact same wrong order. That was the straw that broke the gwoshi's back for me, and I switched to MUSHclient.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: Sorry on January 16, 2018, 10:47:09 AM
Yeah I've seen that too, it seems to be something about the way armageddon receives text compared to other muds where I've copypasted entire room descriptions in with no problems, I think it must be related to how Arm misses stuff that's sent occasionally maybe?

With CMUD if you CTRL+Shift+Enter you can bring up the editor window and in Options at the top of that window, it has an option to "Send line by line" (also there is a button next to the computer icon to send a single line) instead of the whole chunk of text at once, that might make it easier on whatever is going on with Arm :(
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: sleepyhead on January 16, 2018, 10:50:57 AM
Hm, maybe. I never had the problem again after I switched to MUSHclient. Now that I've figured out how to disable MUSHclient's Autosay, I don't think I'll ever have any reason to go back!
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: James de Monet on January 16, 2018, 02:14:20 PM
I use MUSHclient, and Iíve never had this problem.

Does this happen when youíre entering commands in rapid succession?  Could be youíre violating some kind of spam interval and CMUD doesnít stop you.  There might be a setting for minimum inter-command delay in your client you could change.  Total guess, but it seems plausible.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: sleepyhead on January 16, 2018, 03:21:56 PM
If you're asking me, no, it never happened when entering commands quickly. It only happened when entering a bunch of long lines of text at the same time. They all got sent, just sometimes in the wrong order. It doesn't really matter unless someone else has this problem, though, since I now use a different client that doesn't do that.
Title: Re: Lost Emotes
Post by: MarshallDFX on January 16, 2018, 05:51:11 PM
I use kubuntu and can confirm both mudlet and potato mush client were acting rather strangely when trying to play arm.  Suppressing output etc.  I ended up switching to tintin++ and never looked back.  The very rare glitchy output when doing lots of walking but never a problem.