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New Player Forum => New Player Questions => Topic started by: Ledge on August 02, 2017, 10:38:04 AM

Title: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Ledge on August 02, 2017, 10:38:04 AM
Self explanatory... but I was wondering if my Non-Slave character could somehow get himself to compete in the gladiator fight or is that something strictly for slaves?
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Riev on August 02, 2017, 10:55:11 AM
There is precedent for "Free" gladiators in the city, though most of the time they do not compete with the real Gladiators. Its a bit like having the Chief of Police fight a WWE Wrestler (if wrestling were real). They both may be physically fit, but one is professionally trained in what he does, the other is an amateur.

You can fight in the Arena, and you can fight some gith gladiators, or sentenced-to-death elves and other criminals. I don't know how the Gladiator owners would feel about "Joe Schmoe" fighting their prized Champion Gladiator though.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Ledge on August 02, 2017, 10:57:18 AM
So it's unheard of for someone to try and make a career out of gladiator fights? The full-time gladiators will always be slaves?
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 02, 2017, 11:05:18 AM
I highly suggest you simply apply for a gladiator role if that's the sort of play you're interested in.

http://gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,52394.0.html (http://gdb.armageddon.org/index.php/topic,52394.0.html)

Edit: You can then get into a back-and-forth with staff about the exact sort of Gladiator you want to play, then staff can guide you from there.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Molten Heart on August 02, 2017, 11:12:58 AM
In a sense, gladiators are kind of like robots, because they are slaves and slaves are supposed to be viewed as things, things someone owns. They are purchased, developed/trained, and taken care of to perform in arena battles. When they die, there's a level of separation so the fans probably don't care, not like if it were their friend or family.

I think it'd be considered weird for a free person to fight instead of a gladiator but if they did it'd be different than gladiators doing it. Usually free people (non gladiators) only fight in the arena as punishment.

Recently there was a call for gladiator roles that may or may not still be happening. In these cases I think they let players make secondary characters who are gladiator slaves that fight in the arena at special RPTs..
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: sleepyhead on August 02, 2017, 11:14:29 AM
Free gladiators are a thing but they're not really the same thing as the "real," slave gladiators. EXCEPT, I do think that Borsail Wyverns are allowed to be gladiators in a more "official" capacity. Unfortunately, those clans are closed.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Riev on August 02, 2017, 11:42:59 AM
So it's unheard of for someone to try and make a career out of gladiator fights? The full-time gladiators will always be slaves?

Yes. It is incredibly rare for a "possession" like a slave, even moreso for a VALUABLE possession to be given its freedom.

If you, as a non-slave, want to make a career out of fighting, you can. Join the Arm and fight breeds. Join the Byn and fight spiders. Join Kurac and fight gith.

If you want to fight like a gladiator in the arena, expect it to be to the death. That's where slaves and things we don't care about go to spill blood in glorious and engaging ways.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Ledge on August 02, 2017, 12:06:23 PM
Thanks for the input guys. My idea was more like a poor guy with nothing to lose looking at the arena as a way to make a name for himself and make money. Since he's free if he makes a name for himself he could attract the attention of some big timers that want to hire him.  I was trying to go with that premise kind of.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: nauta on August 02, 2017, 12:12:04 PM
To be clear, and summarize some of the points:

1. On occasion, a PC noble (usually Borsail) will advertise competitions for "free" gladiators in Allanak.  This is in my experience quite rare (once in the last 3 years).  It was a lot of fun when it was going on though.  Check the rumor boards to see if this is still a thing, or cozy up to a noble and try to make it a thing.

2. Normally, the gladiators in Allanak are slaves or criminals.  Among the former you have two types:

3. Pen gladiators, which are slaves (maybe criminals?) which you can app to play during an arena RPT as a 2nd PC.  They can't leave the slave pens.

4. Reigning gladiators, which are slaves.  You can app to play them as your primary PC.  They can leave the pens and the arena and hang out at the bar and get free drinks and be badasses.  (They are sort of like sports superstars.)

References:

http://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Allanaki%20Gladiators

http://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Arena

http://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Slavery

http://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Slavery%20in%20Allanak

None of this is to be confused with the sub-guild 'Gladiator' which is just a meta construction:

http://www.armageddon.org/help/view/Gladiator
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Ledge on August 02, 2017, 12:16:47 PM
That full time gladiator Role does sound interesting, I might actually consider applying.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: nauta on August 02, 2017, 12:21:14 PM
Thanks for the input guys. My idea was more like a poor guy with nothing to lose looking at the arena as a way to make a name for himself and make money. Since he's free if he makes a name for himself he could attract the attention of some big timers that want to hire him.  I was trying to go with that premise kind of.

As for what you describe here, a 'common' route for a PC is to join the T'zai Byn Company (mercenaries).  They take in the riff-raff and spit out hardened mercenaries with reputations.  Someone who comes out of the T'zai Byn Company is also more likely to get hired elsewhere based on that reputation.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Renenutet on August 02, 2017, 12:24:05 PM
Nauta is correct.

Free gladiators happened while the Gladiator roles were unavailable. We enjoy supporting player initiative. Because people enjoyed and were proud of their free gladiator accomplishments we were happy to let them stand

Still it was a nobles pet project and while wonderful, not an ongoing endeavor.

I hope no one will be offended if I say Free Gladiators are not real gladiators
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: valeria on August 02, 2017, 12:28:24 PM
I think the concept you outlined could fit very well as either a pen or reigning gladiator though!
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Refugee on August 02, 2017, 04:00:55 PM

I hope no one will be offended if I say Free Gladiators are not real gladiators

Gasp!
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Renenutet on August 02, 2017, 04:07:35 PM

I hope no one will be offended if I say Free Gladiators are not real gladiators

Gasp!

I'm sorry! I can take it back.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Refugee on August 02, 2017, 04:22:22 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Riev on August 02, 2017, 04:53:15 PM
Gasp...y?
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Renenutet on August 02, 2017, 06:25:03 PM
Ow!
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: lairos on August 03, 2017, 01:26:36 PM
Applying for even a second PC Gladiator is a 0 risk if you want to try it out to test the waters before you decide to apply for a full fledged Reigning Gladiator. These roles are still evolving, growing and being changed up for your pleasure. New things always take time to settle and find their groove, but getting in close to the ground floor has its own rewards.
Title: Re: Can a Free-Man be a gladiator?
Post by: Cind on August 05, 2017, 05:59:28 AM
I want two gladiators to get into a fight in a crowded bar, and people immediately start betting on and cheering for their favorites, bring the arena to the gaj just like our politicans have been calling for for years