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Title: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 01, 2012, 12:21:44 AM
A thread for talking about, well, anything to do with games.

Didn't exactly know if I should make a new thread for it or not but anyone else heard about them releasing a console version for the Witcher 2: Assassin of Kings?

Having never played the Witcher, I wanted to see what the general feedback on that game was. From what I saw of trailers and stuff, when the PC version was being released, it looked pretty fucking fantastic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on April 01, 2012, 12:28:12 AM
I like Planescape: Torment.

it's pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on April 03, 2012, 01:26:12 AM
The Witcher series is pretty ace, but my PC really struggles with them.  I'll be grabbing the console ports.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ghost on April 03, 2012, 04:23:24 PM
witcher is awesome

i played the assassin of kings and i loved it
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on April 04, 2012, 01:04:18 AM
Seriously world? (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1339254269/ron-paul-road-to-revolution?ref=category)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 04, 2012, 01:41:23 AM
witcher is awesome

i played the assassin of kings and i loved it
Would it kill me to skip the first game?

I've always been iffy about coming into a game, a series later.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on April 04, 2012, 01:43:00 AM
It is definitely not necessary to have played the first game, although I'd recommend you do due to the awesomeness.  The plots aren't really entwined at all.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ghost on April 04, 2012, 02:04:31 PM
witcher is awesome

i played the assassin of kings and i loved it
Would it kill me to skip the first game?

I've always been iffy about coming into a game, a series later.

you can just read the summary of the first game from wikipedia and then play the second
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on April 04, 2012, 02:13:11 PM
The Witcher 1 is awesome, the Witcher 2 is awesome +1.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on April 04, 2012, 02:17:35 PM
Alright, I know I keep spamming these Kickstarter things here, but this (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1613260297/shadowrun-returns) one is seriously awesome and should definitely appeal to at least a few folks here.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on April 04, 2012, 02:28:54 PM
I've always been iffy about coming into a game, a series later.

This new short animation from the game company tells you exactly what happened in Witcher 1, and even if you know what happened, it'll make you want to play Witcher 2 again!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPHgWfWFr9k
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 07, 2012, 04:23:28 PM
I really liked the first Witcher, the ridiculous amounts of player-gratifying softcore porn notwithstanding. It's really refreshing and Zalanthan to have "racism" and prejudice depicted in a pre-modern society. Something distinctly lacking from a lot of games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: solera on April 11, 2012, 03:39:31 PM
When I finished Witcher 1 I wanted to jump straight back in to work the plot through again.  (And to play the antihero this time.) A game that really grabbed me from the start.  Funny funny random NPC chat.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on April 11, 2012, 05:42:30 PM
Awesome new ol' school dungeon crawler that just came out today :)

Great graphics, about a billion puzzles to solve, fun & very addictive.

Legend of Grimrock

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/legend_of_grimrock
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on April 12, 2012, 09:18:20 AM
Awesome new ol' school dungeon crawler that just came out today :)

Great graphics, about a billion puzzles to solve, fun & very addictive.

Legend of Grimrock

http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/legend_of_grimrock

Just started playing that. They need to fix ranged rogues. Missile Weapon skill gives +dex but that stat is worthless for that type of build.

Otherwise it's fun :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on April 12, 2012, 03:17:30 PM
Bought Grimrock last night and was looking forward to trying it out today, but some magnificent bastard had to go and release Theme Hospital on gog.com.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on April 12, 2012, 03:24:58 PM
Bought Grimrock last night and was looking forward to trying it out today, but some magnificent bastard had to go and release Theme Hospital on gog.com.

There's another $5.99 gone. I'm going to be buying this too, and unless the resolution is so bad I can't stand it, probably play it all night as well.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on April 13, 2012, 11:10:05 PM
The more I think about it; the Eldar in Dawn of War 2 must be Tuluki.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on April 13, 2012, 11:16:07 PM
Oh yeah.

Both witcher games are pretty fantastic. Witcher 2 enhanced should be out soon too, making the game a bit more complete.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 14, 2012, 12:31:16 AM
DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on April 14, 2012, 01:05:25 AM
DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3.

ARMAGEDDON KILLER, AM I RITE?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on April 16, 2012, 06:44:37 AM
my life for tribes ascend (https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/?referral=1951770&utm_campaign=email), man

If anyone else is playing, add me and let's play some time. TheRoadNorth.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on April 16, 2012, 08:25:46 AM
I finally tried out SCP Containment Breach.

I think I made it about 30 seconds before ALT-F4.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBadSeed on April 16, 2012, 02:04:32 PM
DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3.

ARMAGEDDON KILLER, AM I RITE?
I'm pretty sure it was Diablo II that unhooked the Armageddon i.v. from me so many years ago.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on April 16, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3. DIABLO 3.

ARMAGEDDON KILLER, AM I RITE?

Dude armageddon will never die.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: drunkendwarf on April 16, 2012, 03:10:15 PM
my life for tribes ascend (https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/?referral=1951770&utm_campaign=email), man

If anyone else is playing, add me and let's play some time. TheRoadNorth.

Holy shit. I wasted hours playing tribes 2 with my brothers. Some of the fondest computer-playing memories I have. This is awesome - I had no idea they'd kicked it back into gear.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on April 16, 2012, 09:17:55 PM
I'd play tribes ascend but the F2P part makes me not want to.

Difference between exclusive club and a free for all park :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 16, 2012, 10:18:58 PM
Picked up Fable III for $8.99 - Figured it was a decent price for the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoltan on April 16, 2012, 10:36:25 PM
my life for tribes ascend (https://account.hirezstudios.com/tribesascend/?referral=1951770&utm_campaign=email), man

If anyone else is playing, add me and let's play some time. TheRoadNorth.

Holy shit. I wasted hours playing tribes 2 with my brothers. Some of the fondest computer-playing memories I have. This is awesome - I had no idea they'd kicked it back into gear.

I've heard mixed things about Ascend. Though I have to say, when Tribes 2 was "re-released" as free some years ago, I got hopelessly addicted to it. What a great game design.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on April 16, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
There are some places where they've hiccuped really bad, like the matchmaking system (you can queue 'with friends' but the game will basically filter you in one at a time as slots open on a server, for example') or..

CTF/CH Raindance.  :-\ Friendly Fire isn't enabled in pub games.

But it's still a blast.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on April 18, 2012, 02:34:11 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/204060/

Anyone else playing Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery on their PC? I'm sort of bored with it to be honest. I can see how it would be fun on an iPad though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on April 18, 2012, 05:37:05 PM
Been trying to play Legend of Grimrock. Cool game from what I can see but it is overheating my graphics card and crashing. I turned all the settings down, turned on vsync and it ran a lot longer but still crashed. Any suggestions? I don't want to try any more without doing something else for fear of frying my card.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 18, 2012, 06:19:34 PM
Clean out your computer. Most heat comes from excess dust and stuff clogging the fans and airways. Barring that, get a new coolant system, and barring that get a new video card.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on April 18, 2012, 06:23:39 PM
Already cleaned it out. It seems from checking up on it I'm not the only one having this problem with this game. Other games run fine for me but this one overheats my card after about 10 minutes of playing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on April 19, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
Already cleaned it out. It seems from checking up on it I'm not the only one having this problem with this game. Other games run fine for me but this one overheats my card after about 10 minutes of playing.

Is vsync off?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on April 19, 2012, 10:17:27 AM
It was overheating faster before I turned it on. I turned it on at the suggestion of some posters on forums having the same problem. I think I've got it now though. I downloaded a program called nvidiaInspector and used it to limit my frame rate by the temperature of my card. So far, I've been able to play as long as I want without overheating now and I'm not noticing any input delay or anything.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Sephiroto on April 19, 2012, 11:01:36 AM
It was overheating faster before I turned it on. I turned it on at the suggestion of some posters on forums having the same problem. I think I've got it now though. I downloaded a program called nvidiaInspector and used it to limit my frame rate by the tempurature of my card. So far, I've been able to play as long as I want without overheating now and I'm not noticing any input delay or anything.

On many games, my GPU gets hotter when the drawing is easier and the FPS rates jump.  For instance, on TF2 I might get 200FPS because the screens are easy to draw and the cards want to melt down, so I limit to 60 and everything is fine.  I've found that limiting FPS to 60 or 30 keeps my cards much cooler on average with no loss of visual quality even at 30FPS, particularly on older games.  I also use MSI Afterburner to monitor frame rates, temps, and set up fan profiles.  With most NVidia cards, the default fan profiles don't kick in until the card is HOT.  Curiously, what cards are you using?  I have two NVidia 465s, which use the Fermi chipset and run a bit hotter than most cards.  If you are using SLI then you can also save some heat by spacing the cards further apart if your motherboard config allows for it.

As for me, I've been playing Final Fantasy 14 when I have time.  The game runs so much better than at release and it is so relaxing every time I play it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on April 19, 2012, 11:18:18 AM
Geforce GT 430 1gb card. Apparently this game tries to ramp up fps as high as it can auto and without limiting it yourself it's causing some cards to overheat real bad. Wouldn't mind setting up a better system for gaming but I really don't play games on the pc that much. Dunno though...Diablo 3 may finally come out soon...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on April 19, 2012, 11:44:20 AM
As for me, I've been playing Final Fantasy 14 when I have time.  The game runs so much better than at release and it is so relaxing every time I play it.

Is it really that much better?  I was in the Beta and the game was unplayable... the controls were horrendous.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Sephiroto on April 19, 2012, 11:49:39 AM
Geforce GT 430 1gb card. Apparently this game tries to ramp up fps as high as it can auto and without limiting it yourself it's causing some cards to overheat real bad. Wouldn't mind setting up a better system for gaming but I really don't play games on the pc that much. Dunno though...Diablo 3 may finally come out soon...

You have a Fermi card too, I think.  They tend to run 10-15C hotter than the other chipsets.  Just make sure to update a fan profile that ramps up the fan RPMs before the cards actually get hot.  My advice is to find a setting that keeps the operational temperature of the cards below 75C in hot weather and 68C in cooler indoor temperatures.  The cards are pretty safe to run up to 80C, but I really don't want mine to get that hot if I can help it.

Is it really that much better?  I was in the Beta and the game was unplayable... the controls were horrendous.

Lots of updates.  The UI is much better, with further overhauls coming out with their 2.0 patch.  In general, the game is a lot more fast pace.  Crafting and leveling at lower levels is simpler and easier.  There are still some issues with the market wards and UI speed that are supposed to be fixed with the 2.0 overhaul.  Apparently the guy who started FF14 was an MMO-tard and the new leadership is making it more like the success of FF11, which had lots of loyal players, and streamlining the UI whilst adding features like new jobs and stuff.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on April 19, 2012, 04:23:42 PM
Been trying to play Legend of Grimrock. Cool game from what I can see but it is overheating my graphics card and crashing. I turned all the settings down, turned on vsync and it ran a lot longer but still crashed. Any suggestions? I don't want to try any more without doing something else for fear of frying my card.
When you say overheat, what does it cause? A crash, or does it stop operating (screen goes black)? How hot is it getting?

Unless it's getting to 100+ C (depends on the ambient temperature of where you live though), it's not overheating causing the problem. These cards only start overheating at 100 to 120 celsius, depending on the card. The problem with a GPU running hot is the what it does to the air around it, and the additional strain it puts on the power supply especially. That will cause problems but not necessarily crashes.

When I got Fallout New Vegas, I had a similar heat problem, but it wasn't my graphics card. It was the draw from the power supply + the heat of the GPU overexerting the power supply and creating a feedback loop... until the PSU would make oscillation sounds and the PC get unstable. Replacing the PSU with a better quality one (not by wattage, but by efficiency) fixed the problem.

If others are getting your problem, especially people with similar computer components to you, it could be bad coding on the game's part. There's lots of ways to write inefficient code. It may be keeping your GPU running at high load for long periods of time. Only fix for that would be getting a better GPU or watching on a patch. A Geforce 430 isn't very good - would be worth getting a better card if you can afford it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 22, 2012, 12:50:29 PM
Should I get Skryim or Mass Effect 3 or Witcher 2? All for XBox. I'm afraid Witcher would suck on a console....
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on April 22, 2012, 01:57:18 PM
Skyrim was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 22, 2012, 02:43:37 PM
Should I get Skryim or Mass Effect 3 or Witcher 2? All for XBox. I'm afraid Witcher would suck on a console....

 Either Skyrim or ME3. Skyrim lasts longer but gets old faster. I'd probably just get both, honestly.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on April 22, 2012, 03:08:58 PM
Should I get Skryim or Mass Effect 3 or Witcher 2? All for XBox. I'm afraid Witcher would suck on a console....

No idea what Witcher 2 is like on a console.  Grab ME3 if you're more interested in plot, dialogue and just plain shooting folks, grab Skyrim if you prefer dragonstinkering with character builds, slightly more tactical combat and wandering round being a virtual demigod.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on April 22, 2012, 04:02:36 PM
I vote for Witcher 2 myself, I'm playing it right now on my Xbox and it looks great (Not as great as when I played it on my Alienware, but, yeah..), beside, it's a lot more Armageddon'ish than the other two.

I guess ME3 could appeal to your military background. (and then you can rez the thread where we're all hatin' on the ending.)

Skyrim is okay, a lot better if you can grab mods, though, so.. PC.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 22, 2012, 04:06:53 PM
Should I get Skryim or Mass Effect 3 or Witcher 2? All for XBox. I'm afraid Witcher would suck on a console....
Having played both pretty extensively, I'd probably go with ME3 (if you've followed ME1 & ME2) simply because - If you play Skyrim's main quest only, you can have that beat within 6 hours, tops. ME3's storyline took me roughly 10 hours? But the Multiplayer really makes it's replay value high since I've logged many, many hours into it.

Having played through all of the Mass Effect series using only a Soldier, I realize on Multiplayer that all the other classes were so much more fun :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on April 23, 2012, 09:03:30 AM
Bcw81 and I have been playing the Napoleonic Wars expansion for Mount and Blade. It's really unique and fun. Haven't had a chance to do a full linebattle with a regiment yet, but I'll post screenshots whenever that happens.

The Commander Battle game mode is also really fun. Spent a few hours playing an 18 vs 18 game in which ever player commands a company of 20 soldiers. There's something about hundreds of soldiers firing off muskets in unison that sucks me in. Also, rocketry. GLORIOUS BRITISH ROCKETRY.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on April 23, 2012, 10:53:47 AM
Bcw81 and I have been playing the Napoleonic Wars expansion for Mount and Blade. It's really unique and fun. Haven't had a chance to do a full linebattle with a regiment yet, but I'll post screenshots whenever that happens.

The Commander Battle game mode is also really fun. Spent a few hours playing an 18 vs 18 game in which ever player commands a company of 20 soldiers. There's something about hundreds of soldiers firing off muskets in unison that sucks me in. Also, rocketry. GLORIOUS BRITISH ROCKETRY.

Shiiiiiit I used to play it back when it was Mount & Musket.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on April 23, 2012, 06:31:33 PM
I think they took the mod offline when they got set up with Taleworlds to do an official release. Never played MM but I think general consensus is that everything is better except overhead bayonet strikes being ridiculously effective against cavalry (and everything else).
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Quittle on April 23, 2012, 11:19:36 PM
Anyone been looking at TERA?

http://tera.enmasse.com/prelaunch?utm_source=blindferret&utm_medium=banner&utm_content=betacode&utm_campaign=prelaunch2

It scares me a bit. This is the first subscription based game which I can see myself getting sucked into. There are others who have been trying to take a stab at this kind of product with games like Darkfall, Mortal Online, RaiderZ, and Hellgate London (think it's Hellgate Japan or something now)... But I couldn't sink my teeth into any of them. TERA looks like a far more polished MMORPG-FPS.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on April 24, 2012, 12:16:59 AM
Have you played the beta? Questing consists almost entirely of kill quests and the only difference between TERA combat and any other MMO is that TERA requires you to look in the general direction of your target before hitting your action bar instead of autotargeting.

The crafting system is awful, female armor designs are absolutely ridiculous, and the world PvP system means two high level players can sit on the ONLY bridge into a questing zone swinging their swords and one-shooting every newbie who tries to run past.

Also. TERA isn't an MMORPG-FPS. FPS means First Person Shooter, which TERA definitely isn't. It's a very instanced modular MMORPG full of compartmentalized questing zones whose only purpose is to speed you along from one kill quest to the next. All the quests that don't involve killing seven Darkfuck Fuckwraiths are GO HERE TALK TO DAVE. Upon finding Dave, he tells you Steve has been looking for you, who in turn sends you right back to Bob, your original questgiver.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Quittle on April 24, 2012, 12:39:52 AM
Have you played the beta? Questing consists almost entirely of kill quests and the only difference between TERA combat and any other MMO is that TERA requires you to look in the general direction of your target before hitting your action bar instead of autotargeting.

The crafting system is awful, female armor designs are absolutely ridiculous, and the world PvP system means two high level players can sit on the ONLY bridge into a questing zone swinging their swords and one-shooting every newbie who tries to run past.

Also. TERA isn't an MMORPG-FPS. FPS means First Person Shooter, which TERA definitely isn't. It's a very instanced modular MMORPG full of compartmentalized questing zones whose only purpose is to speed you along from one kill quest to the next. All the quests that don't involve killing seven Darkfuck Fuckwraiths are GO HERE TALK TO DAVE. Upon finding Dave, he tells you Steve has been looking for you, who in turn sends you right back to Bob, your original questgiver.

At face value, of course FPS means 'First Person Shooter'. I only meant that pointing actually matters.

Thanks for the input, though. You probably saved me some money =)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on April 24, 2012, 07:49:03 AM
The box art for Arkham City, Game of the Year edition is atrocious.
(http://www.gamepur.com/files/imagepicker/48/thumbs/Batman-Arkham-City-Game-of-the-Year-Edition-Box-Art.jpg)


Fortunately, the Internet has stepped in to fix it up.
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17kjp3wrhvfkbjpg/original.jpg)


Haha, did you think that was it?
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17kjs362wshu8jpg/cmt-medium.jpg)


MORE PRAISE
(http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17kjuej528g10jpg/cmt-medium.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 24, 2012, 01:16:42 PM
The original really doesn't look that bad. Except for bat man being white instead of black, of course.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 24, 2012, 03:17:06 PM
The original really doesn't look that bad. Except for bat man being white instead of black, of course.

Who're you kidding, dude? The original looks terrible. It actually looks like the front of the GameInformer magazine or something. I could understand wanting to add a little 'jazz' to your Game of the Year edition but it just looks like they're trying to boast about how great their game is.

Lol @ Pass the controller, Bro & Brazzers.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on April 25, 2012, 04:19:43 PM
Totally found some cool trailers for Mass Effect 2.

Mass Effect 2 - Fight for the Lost: Grunt, Miranda, Subject Zero and Thane - Trailer  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0xjnJQ3Rs)

Mass Effect 2 Dirty Dozen Full / Thane Assassin / Grunt Savage Trailer [-HD-] 720p TRAILER  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtsQyALEU3c)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on April 28, 2012, 08:08:14 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG:


http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/king-of-dragon-pass/id335545504?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

I was going to get an Android tablet because I'm a heavy android user... but this is a game changer. My favorite game of all time. I mean, ALL TIME. I spent more hours on it than I did Armageddon. I once even killed Orlanth in a heroquest and made Humakt our main diety.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on April 30, 2012, 06:38:00 PM
I started playing Day Z (http://dayzmod.com/) yesterday.

Day Z is a mod for ARMA 2 and Operation Arrowhead. Servers have 50+ players, zombies, and no rules. You roam a 255km^2 map in search of weapons, beans, and Pepsi. Some people may team up with you. Others will shoot you in the head from half a kilometer away.

Also helicopters.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRpPIyJDSEQ) is a Let's Play of sorts that's pretty accurate to the feel of the game.

It's still in an alpha and ARMA 2 is a janky game on its best days, but holy shit if this isn't fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on April 30, 2012, 08:01:19 PM
I tried to play Day Z. Keep the coast to your right and always travel north, they told me. Stay away from cities, they said.

I joined up with a group of a day/v/ bros and made it a couple hours before we were surrounded by a bandit gang at an airfield. They demanded one person from our group be offered up as sacrifice.

Guess who was nominated.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on April 30, 2012, 09:03:41 PM
Haha. I'm finally going to go get a mic today and join of of their expeditions. Or I might link up with goons if they're too goofy.

Airfields are death traps and where a majority of the skilled dude PVP takes place.

The big cities like Chernogorsk and Elektrozavodsk are full of murderous fools, newbies, and sadistic snipers. I actually popped into Chernogorsk last night when it was pitch black and managed to loot a hunting knife, matches, compass, map, watch, and binoculars off of a dead bandit.  Then I ran for the hills and logged off far in the northern woods.

Tonight I'm going to hunt some cows for delicious, lifegiving meat and then maybe go try and take an airfield with a group of people.



Also tip: Play at night and crank your gamma and brightness to max. Everything looks like a black and white horror movie. A lot of other players don't do this, so you could have a pretty big advantage. I managed to stalk a group of three survivors for half an hour or so before I got bored.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 01, 2012, 03:58:53 AM
Three of us trekked three miles to some city, dodging bandits and fighting off zombies with our shitty makarov pistols. We started working our way through Chernogorsk, gathering supplies. After some close calls with zombies, we found a hospital and started picking it over for blood packs and bandages when our point man got shot in the head. Me and the other guy start firing on the bandit across the road, which attracts EVERY FUCKING ZOMBIE EVER. Somehow, we kill the bandit and all the zombies with our pistols but we're both bleeding badly and I've got broken bones. My bro bandages us up and we give each other blood transfusions before climbing up onto the hospital roof to make camp for the night. As I'm preparing a campfire, I accidentally tap W and SPRINT FORWARD OFF THE ROOF TO MY DEATH.

Such is life in DayZ.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 01, 2012, 04:19:58 AM
Wow. That shit looks fucking fun!

It's a PC game, right? That automatically rules me out :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 01, 2012, 04:33:01 AM
Yeah. It's a mod for the military sim game Arma II and it's Operation Arrowhead expansion.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BlackMagic0 on May 01, 2012, 04:55:11 AM
Yeah. It's a mod for the military sim game Arma II and it's Operation Arrowhead expansion.

That sounds pretty fucking awesome. Sounds like I need to look into it!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 01, 2012, 05:50:31 AM
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6793/1335828334508.jpg

Here's a guide for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 01, 2012, 05:57:39 AM
Nebulous Hero (http://www.loandbeholdgames.com/NebulousHero.zip).  It'll take you 10-15 minutes tops.  The only thing I can tell you while avoiding spoilers is that you only get to see the instructions after you finish playing.  It's rather good.

E: Is it possible to play Arma 2 with a gamepad?

2.E: I don't get why people keep making fun of that cover art.  10/10 is a truly amazing game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 06:46:29 AM
It's a first person shooter where you engage at ranges in excess of 300m. Why would you play it with a gamepad.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 01, 2012, 06:56:54 AM
Because I generally perform better with a gamepad than a mouse?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 01, 2012, 07:01:05 AM
You probably can't play Arma with a gamepad, and even if you can, I won't recommend it because pretty much every key on the keyboard does something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 09:01:05 AM
Currently in a war torn town with Havok, losing buddies, killin bandits.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 01, 2012, 09:55:27 AM
After an hour long trek to meet up with Yam's group at Starry Sobor, we found ourselves on opposite sides of the town. Bandits inside the town started firing on my group as we tried to circumnavigate the zombies and killed one of my bros. I was sprinting full pelt through the town to reach Yam's group while the bandits fired on me, totally not realizing one of my bros who was shot down was still alive. By the time we were able to make it back to him, he had bled out. After that we took a while to regroup and gather supplies before setting off to pillage more villages.

Most fun I've ever had in Arma.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 10:20:06 AM
I ended up breaking off from that group. A few of those guys went out with me last night. We went through Stary Sobor and the same bandit camp, killed a few other survivors, and made our way to the NW Airport. We tacticooly went around the perimeter of the airport to make sure it was clear, then started liquidating the zombies and gathering up delicious military equipment.

We noticed some poor fucker run across the airstrip and into a hanger down our row, so we went and surrounded the hanger while he pleaded that he was friendly.

Except he was a bandit.

So my buddy poked his head into the hanger to distract him, and I ran in and filled him full of buckshot.

After that the server knew that people were in the Airport so we decided to loot the rest of the buildings and get out of there fast.

We saw someone on the outskirts but they ran off before we could take a shot. We also got a little greedy and decided to clear/loot a few more hangers. Midway through one, a sniper killed one of us. Then another. Three of us managed to escape.

The other two got picked off clearing deer blinds around Stary Sobor and that's when we ended up meeting your group!




Just spent the past hour or so hunting meat so I wouldn't starve to death. I found a cow in a pasture and shot it in the head. Then I waited a while to make sure no one had come to the sound of my gunshots, butchered it, took the meat, and cooked it a ways off.

Such is life in Chernarus.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 01, 2012, 02:31:56 PM
I love reading the stories, guys. Keep'em coming.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 01, 2012, 02:34:31 PM
How can you tell if someone is a bandit? Do bandits and non-bandits wear different skins?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 03:48:45 PM
How can you tell if someone is a bandit? Do bandits and non-bandits wear different skins?


Yeah. Currently survivors (non-bandits) wear pants, a shirt, and a kevlar vest in various subdued colors. Bandits wear digitized desert camouflage and a bandana around their face.

There's been a lot of talk about special skins for various things. Doing lots of healing gives you a medic skin. Killing bandits gives you a different kind of military/police skin. Et cetera.

You have humanity points. You lose them if you kill another survivor that hasn't shot you. You don't lose them if you kill a bandit. But as it stands, you can't really trust either a bandit or a survivor. You regain humanity points slowly, but you can also lose them if you kill another survivor that was shooting at you but never connected. Since many weapons can kill you in one or two shots, this is a necessity.

So most successful people roll around in groups of 5 or so on teamspeak and blast anyone they see.

The game is basically a giant prisoner's dilemma with zombies.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: ghostymudy on May 01, 2012, 04:29:17 PM
I'd love to join in with your group on Dayz, I might even be able to bring the friend I usually play it with. Do you guys use VOIP?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BlackMagic0 on May 01, 2012, 04:57:47 PM
I'm going to download it sometime this weekend hopefully and I'd love to gather up for a group to survive.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 05:05:18 PM
I've been using the Day/v/ TS, ts.gonnahate.org. You can hope in one of the expedition channels and see where they are and go meet up with them. That's probably normally where Havok and I will be.

The game also has built in distance-based voice. To use it, bind a key to Direct Voice or something like that. This is handy for making fun of people you're about to shoot in the back of the head or seeing if someone is friendly (don't trust anyone!). Don't use voice chat in the global/side channels.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on May 01, 2012, 05:05:26 PM
You people should play Armageddon.  >:(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 05:06:57 PM
Sometimes you gotta chop mothafuckaz with bone swords. Sometimes you need to shoot them while hiding in a copse of trees one kilometer away. Sometimes you need to use a smoke grenade to summon a horde of zombies on their carefully entrenched position. And sometimes you just gotta run through the woods for literally hours on end.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: ghostymudy on May 01, 2012, 05:10:47 PM
I thought the direct channel VOIP was broken? it was last time I checked anyway.

We can use my own teamspeak if you don't fancy using /v/'s or if all the channels are full.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 01, 2012, 05:14:23 PM
It does work, you just need to set up a separate key for it. I'm heading out but I'll make a DayZ thread later. Or one of you can if you want to.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 02, 2012, 12:38:54 AM
My Xbox is on it's last legs, I think.

Fan sounds way too loud when running and, on certain games, it has a high tendency of crashing. Can't get through the first 5 minutes of Prototype without it crashing. Tried returning it & getting another game disc but the same problem.

Going to get one of those laser len's cleaning discs or whatever from the store tomorrow.

Anyone have any recommendations? Should I consider trading in my 360 or getting a refurbished one? It's an old 360. Big, bulky white one.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 02, 2012, 12:52:43 AM
You could try opening it up and spraying it out with a compressed air can. If you're familiar with assembling a computer, it's even easy to take the individual parts out (though that isn't really necessary).
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 02, 2012, 01:20:40 AM
Other than taking the faceplate off, I've never opened up my Xbox. Considering that the warranty is already void, anyways, should I try opening it up and cleaning it out? But I've never cleaned it out before and wouldn't really know how to go about it. I'm sure there are plenty of guides online but any personal tips? Things to watch out for?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 02, 2012, 02:08:26 AM
If you check out youtube, there are dozens of videos on how to open it up. It's really easy and just consists of removing your HDD and popping the white casing off. I would do it in a clean environment and avoid touching the motherboard (beneath the heatsink, which will look like a bigass building). I'd suggest using compressed air instead of qtips or a towel or anything, and don't spray it so close that shit frosts over. You can get a can of Ultra Duster or whatever at walmart for like five bucks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 02, 2012, 02:19:43 AM
Open it up, spray it off. Seems easy enough. I'll youtube a video to help guide me through the opening/closing.

Another problem I have; is I believe the fan itself is pretty clogged up - Hence why it spins like crazy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on May 04, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
could someone give me instructions on how to install and play day z
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 04, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
could someone give me instructions on how to install and play day z
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6793/1335828334508.jpg

Here's a guide for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 05, 2012, 12:16:16 AM
could someone give me instructions on how to install and play day z


PM or IM me if you still can't get it to work.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 05, 2012, 12:57:05 AM
Post updates on your stories, guys. They are fun to read.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 05, 2012, 01:03:24 AM
Last night I linked up with WWYD on the Bean Coast after some fussing. We headed up north to Stary Sobor to get some gear, passing a few towns on the way. We saw a few survivors but they were mostly friendly. We shot a cow, butchered it, and ate it.

A three other people I play with logged into our teamspeak server and decided to head to Stary Sobor's military base to help us get equipped.

(http://i.imgur.com/ePJQj.jpg)

For reference, the military base is a collection of fenced in tents just north of the city.

They saw a group of five other people posted in the large warehouse, the right most, largest rectangular building. They approached them from the northern hill and opened fire, killing four of them. WWYD and I could hear the shots as we approached from the south, near the "sign post" marker and I got a shot off at the last of the enemy group trying to run for it.

Then we took over the military base, posted a guard, and looted the fuck out of it.


WWYD should tell the airport story.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 05, 2012, 01:07:29 AM
One of the groups has a helicopter up and running. They found another helicopter and are currently picking up parts to fix it.

It crashed and they all died.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 05, 2012, 02:13:11 AM
In case you all didn't know, I'm a big fan of post-apocalyptic, zombie-themed survival stories so I'm having probably just as much fun reading this as you all are playing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BleakOne on May 05, 2012, 02:18:18 AM
In case you all didn't know, I'm a big fan of post-apocalyptic, zombie-themed survival stories so I'm having probably just as much fun reading this as you all are playing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 05, 2012, 02:32:58 AM
Should probably consider making a separate thread titled 'Day Z Story Thread' or something.

In fact, I think I'll do that.

Here's the link:
http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,43345.0.html
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 05, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=nc7IVbY3UYg#!

X-Com clone that is being developed to actually feel like X-Com.

Pre-order gives access to Alpha. I'm considering it now :)


EDIT: Pre-ordered and downloading now... I'm so not buying anything for the rest of the year :)

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 06, 2012, 08:08:48 AM
Xenonauts does look sexy, but this is one of the few games I'd prefer to pick up when it's finished.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 06, 2012, 02:25:09 PM
Another $9.99 spent. Just bought this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209830/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on May 06, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
Another $9.99 spent. Just bought this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209830/


It looks like he has this permanent huge smile on his face..

Like...  ;D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on May 06, 2012, 11:27:11 PM
Another $9.99 spent. Just bought this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209830/


It looks like he has this permanent huge smile on his face..

Like...  ;D

Nothing funny in this game.  ALL CREEPY AS HELL.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 07, 2012, 07:44:04 AM
This looks so fun. Bought.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 07, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
Never bought games on Steam before. Is it as easy as I assume? Download (steam), Make Account, Purchase game with credit card, download, play?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on May 07, 2012, 01:53:14 PM
Yep!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 07, 2012, 02:09:27 PM
You can access these games offline, as well?

If they're off-line games, I mean.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 07, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
Another $9.99 spent. Just bought this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209830/


It looks like he has this permanent huge smile on his face..

Like...  ;D

I think its the surgical mask he's wearing in the opening scene.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 07, 2012, 02:10:05 PM
You can access these games offline, as well?

If they're off-line games, I mean.

Yes.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 07, 2012, 03:33:44 PM
Caution: Steam can and will force you to spend far more money than you intend to on games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 07, 2012, 05:34:31 PM
Another $9.99 spent. Just bought this.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/209830/


It looks like he has this permanent huge smile on his face..

Like...  ;D

I think its the surgical mask he's wearing in the opening scene.


It is indeed. But now I have this damn smiley face burned into my thoughts every time I look at him it it kinda ruins the mood :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 09, 2012, 09:11:19 AM
Xenonauts (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/69341191/xenonauts) (a great looking XCOM remake) are doing a Kickstarter.  There is a link where you can download the current development build.  It's well worth checking out if you're interested in a more faithful successor than Firaxis are making.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 09, 2012, 10:55:08 AM
Xenonauts (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/69341191/xenonauts) (a great looking XCOM remake) are doing a Kickstarter.  There is a link where you can download the current development build.  It's well worth checking out if you're interested in a more faithful successor than Firaxis are making.

I actually pre-ordered a copy a week ago and have the latest dev build.

Hoping they add more content soon and get it through beta. It's working but it feels very empty.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 09, 2012, 03:47:50 PM
"The class system, or vocation, makes a difference to the gameplay and tactical options available to the player, ranging from Fighters relying on hack and slash combat (with a move-set similar to Capcom's Devil May Cry) to Striders relying on climbing over large enemies (like in Shadow of the Colossus).[11]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon%27s_Dogma

Demo is already out. This will be out in a couple of weeks. DARK SOULS MEETS SHADOW OF THE COLOSSUS.

To quote The Mask: "SOMEBODY STOP ME!"


(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/The_Mask_%28film%29_poster.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 10, 2012, 08:28:51 AM
I'm considering buying it on PC just to play this mod (http://youtu.be/uD5jgLN-bHQ)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 10, 2012, 09:09:16 AM
I've been messing around with the new portal level editor and I cannot, for the life of me, come up with puzzles.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 11, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
Got an invite to the Counter Strike Global Offensive beta. I'll post my thoughts up after I've played it a bit!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 12, 2012, 10:53:53 PM
Played the first episode of the Walking Dead game on the PS3 (PSN title), and it rocked. Very good writing. Highly recommend.

I got the season pass.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 13, 2012, 10:17:21 AM
I've been playing The Witcher 2 on XBOX. I really like it. It's kept my interest unlike a lot of other video games out there. I "skip" the sex scenes. They're awkward.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 13, 2012, 02:18:36 PM
I've been playing The Witcher 2 on XBOX. I really like it. It's kept my interest unlike a lot of other video games out there. I "skip" the sex scenes. They're awkward.

I'm pretty cheap so I'm going to wait until the price drops - Or a used version comes in before I get it, but it does look like a really awesome game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on May 14, 2012, 04:22:42 PM
OK, Eve is kinda interesting. I may end up paying subscription. I thought I'd just buy PLEX but I lost **tons of cash** playing drunk.

There is a feeling similar to Arm, I'm scared shitless of PvP. Should I be? What If I try to molest a miner and he turns out to have a much better understanding of the ship systems than I do?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on May 14, 2012, 07:24:35 PM
OK, Eve is kinda interesting. I may end up paying subscription. I thought I'd just buy PLEX but I lost **tons of cash** playing drunk.

There is a feeling similar to Arm, I'm scared shitless of PvP. Should I be? What If I try to molest a miner and he turns out to have a much better understanding of the ship systems than I do?

It is the way of the game, i've played for a long time, still scared shitless of pvp
and just a hint most miners mine because they have backup just a jump away.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 15, 2012, 09:28:28 AM
Don't PvP alone. That's all I learned.

When I tried Eve I joined the friendly Eve University corp. It was far from friendly. I know of one guy who does play Eve at my previous work place. He's a nice enough gentlemen to work with but I'd never go near him outside work :( He has "social" problems.

I don't see the draw to Eve unless you enjoy obsessing over it. It does reward that type of fantasy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 15, 2012, 03:26:38 PM
Avoid EVE University. They have some really stupid policies, like killing their own pilots to prevent enemies from getting the credit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on May 15, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
Not PvP-ing alone appears to be a sound advice, I'll try to find some RP friendly Minmatar corps. but since I'm still on trial and have no time to play obsessively, it probably won't be an easy find. Mission running is insanely boring, and I'd turn to smuggling if those concord ships didn't give me the creeps, so the plan for tonight is: finish my missile operation training, load up some rockets and head off to a lower sec system in vain hope that I'll find some even less experienced to mug. Now, if only my ship's capacitor wouldn't fry when I load more than two modules, that'd be great.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on May 15, 2012, 06:44:15 PM
Not PvP-ing alone appears to be a sound advice, I'll try to find some RP friendly Minmatar corps. but since I'm still on trial and have no time to play obsessively, it probably won't be an easy find. Mission running is insanely boring, and I'd turn to smuggling if those concord ships didn't give me the creeps, so the plan for tonight is: finish my missile operation training, load up some rockets and head off to a lower sec system in vain hope that I'll find some even less experienced to mug. Now, if only my ship's capacitor wouldn't fry when I load more than two modules, that'd be great.

Your going to get popped
i've been playing for many years now and people still pop my ships in 30 secs
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on May 15, 2012, 07:09:59 PM
Your going to get popped
i've been playing for many years now and people still pop my ships in 30 secs

Ok, give me some advice. I have a rifter (since my slasher got popped). Is it any good or should I scrape for something better? I also just spent shitload of cash for missile skillbooks, It'll take me two days to train them up...

Can I smuggle without the cloaking skill?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on May 15, 2012, 09:52:36 PM
Your going to get popped
i've been playing for many years now and people still pop my ships in 30 secs

Ok, give me some advice. I have a rifter (since my slasher got popped). Is it any good or should I scrape for something better? I also just spent shitload of cash for missile skillbooks, It'll take me two days to train them up...

Can I smuggle without the cloaking skill?

I will put it this way as far as pvp goes right now if you are still in trail or just pass the trial. your screwed no matter what you fly unless you attack someone with the same amount of time as you. I fly minmatar but mostly an indy pilot. Love using my hulk.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 16, 2012, 07:10:22 AM
Your going to get popped
i've been playing for many years now and people still pop my ships in 30 secs

Ok, give me some advice. I have a rifter (since my slasher got popped). Is it any good or should I scrape for something better? I also just spent shitload of cash for missile skillbooks, It'll take me two days to train them up...

Can I smuggle without the cloaking skill?

Rifters are fantastic ships, arguably the best tier one frigate in the game. They're excellent for PvP due to their solid performance and low cost. Never fly what you can't afford to lose.

One thing to consider though: Most minmatar ships rely on autocannons and artillery. Missiles are the Caldari forte, so if you're going to be flying minmatar, it would be wiser to look into gunnery skills.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 16, 2012, 09:02:03 PM
Looking at Free To Play options on Steam.... anyone here playing a f2p game which isn't "pay to win."
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 16, 2012, 09:05:12 PM
They still make games like that? I thought Guild Wars was the only one.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 16, 2012, 09:09:31 PM
They still make games like that? I thought Guild Wars was the only one.

They make shitty games (usually) or games like Star Trek Online end up free to play.

GW1 you had to buy. You can just download and fire up Star Trek Online.

Steam has a list of f2p titles. None of them really caught my eye though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 16, 2012, 09:10:01 PM
Spend the $5 for Bastion. :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 16, 2012, 09:16:40 PM
Spend the $5 for Bastion. :)

It's $15 :P
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 16, 2012, 09:17:52 PM
Worth it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 17, 2012, 12:09:49 PM
Thoughts on the Game of Thrones RPG after playing it a little bit:

- Story is pretty solid. It fits well within the universe, and the only downside is that you know your main characters have plot armor.
- Combat is okay. It's brutal and fun to watch but from what I understand, you eventually get to the point where you just spam your three strongest abilities over and over. I haven't encountered this yet, but I imagine I will.
- Graphics are meh. About what I'd expect from an underbudget game by a low-tier developer. If you get the PC version instead of the console version, it even looks good at some points, but never great. Console version suffers from texture problems.
- They started working on this before the TV series, which means, for whatever reason, only some of the characters are modeled on their TV counterparts. It's kind of obnoxious at times. Also, something is up with the way they animated Jeor Mormont's beard.


I definitely plan on buying the game to finish it, and I think fans of the universe will enjoy it, but I advise waiting for the inevitable steam sale and avoiding the console version altogether.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 17, 2012, 12:30:41 PM
I definitely plan on buying the game to finish it, and I think fans of the universe will enjoy it, but I advise waiting for the inevitable steam sale and avoiding the console version altogether.

You're playing a "demo?"
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 17, 2012, 12:31:12 PM
No, a friend purchased it and let me try it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 17, 2012, 02:36:02 PM
Picked up Dead Island.

Kind've boring.

Might return it.

 :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 17, 2012, 03:35:49 PM
Picked up Dead Island.

Kind've boring.

Might return it.

 :-\

Walking Dead will give you your zombie fix. Season Pass is only $20, and each episode is $5. Next episode comes out in June.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 19, 2012, 12:28:06 AM
Yeah. Pretty sure I'm just going to return this game and get Dead Space 2 or something. Boring on solo and majority of players on Multiplayer have figured out ways to glitch/Overpower their weapons to the point of doing one-shot kills. I mean, some kid literally glitch-copied a pistol that does over 500k lightning damage per shot and gave it to me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 20, 2012, 07:46:50 PM
Dug out my Sega Genesis from storage, got my copy of Shadowrun and started playing it again :)

Other than the low res on an hd tv, I'm having a blast.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on May 20, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
Rent-a-server update ruined battlefield 3 on the Xbox.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on May 20, 2012, 10:28:30 PM
Rent-a-server update ruined battlefield 3 on the Xbox.
+1
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 23, 2012, 08:45:26 PM
I thought it looked familiar...

Walking Dead
(http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/i/2011/09/13/walking-Dead_510.jpg)

Mass Effect 3
(http://sin.stb.s-msn.com/i/63/4AA16316C3E97EC481D7416CAB142.jpg)

Man. Bioware got really lazy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 23, 2012, 09:09:22 PM
Wasn't that done specifically for promotional purposes?

http://www.bigshinyrobot.com/reviews/archives/37140
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 23, 2012, 09:36:03 PM
Ah, that makes sense. I hadn't known it was intended as a homage to Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 26, 2012, 10:16:55 PM
Picked up Deus Ex.

Heard some good things about it. Figured I'd give it a try.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 27, 2012, 04:24:43 AM
Gah. Fuck this game. So hard.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 27, 2012, 01:23:59 PM
Gah. Fuck this game. So hard.

This is the first time I've come across someone who didn't like the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on May 27, 2012, 04:14:46 PM
Gah. Fuck this game. So hard.

This is the first time I've come across someone who didn't like the game.

I did not like it either.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 27, 2012, 06:16:17 PM
I enjoyed it, but never finished it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on May 27, 2012, 06:17:23 PM
Gah. Fuck this game. So hard.

This is the first time I've come across someone who didn't like the game.

Didn't say I don't like it. Just some parts of fucking frustrating.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 30, 2012, 12:07:12 PM
This is what DLC should be. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tMoM2Oeq4dY)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on May 31, 2012, 12:47:45 PM
StarForge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBSYit49c8&feature=youtu.be) has a playable (and free) release out.  It's being described as Warcraft 3 meets Minecraft meets Halo and y'all owe it to yourselves to have a gander.  The best features are show later on in the video for some bizarre reason.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 31, 2012, 01:01:48 PM
StarForge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBSYit49c8&feature=youtu.be) has a playable (and free) release out.  It's being described as Warcraft 3 meets Minecraft meets Halo and y'all owe it to yourselves to have a gander.  The best features are show later on in the video for some bizarre reason.

That looks pretty sick. But still pretty rough around the edges. Wonder if my machine can even run something like that.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 01, 2012, 04:27:32 AM
StarForge (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBSYit49c8&feature=youtu.be) has a playable (and free) release out.  It's being described as Warcraft 3 meets Minecraft meets Halo and y'all owe it to yourselves to have a gander.  The best features are show later on in the video for some bizarre reason.

That looks pretty sick. But still pretty rough around the edges. Wonder if my machine can even run something like that.

True, but it's still a pre-alpha so a little roughness is to be expected :)

In other news, Dishonored (http://youtu.be/9ITq0hXCCB0) keeps looking better and better.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 01, 2012, 04:52:35 AM
Hrm. I was told there would be free-running/parkour/climbing of some sort in the game.

doesn't look like it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 01, 2012, 04:59:13 AM
Hrm. I was told there would be free-running/parkour/climbing of some sort in the game.

doesn't look like it.

There is (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/26/dishonored-preview-3/), but trailers have an unfortunate tendency to focus on shooting and explosiony stuff.  Gotta market to the xbox kiddies, right?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 01, 2012, 05:07:01 AM
Well then it looks amazing. Not a fan of the bioshocky art-style, but the graphics still look amazing. Pretty much the only gripe I can think of.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on June 01, 2012, 07:22:18 AM
The art and world is actually designed by one of the Half-life 2 artists. I thought that was pretty evident with the quadruped walkers and whatnot. Very Combine-esque.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 01, 2012, 10:48:50 AM
That's literally the only likeness I can think of.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on June 01, 2012, 10:53:48 AM
Do you want:

Amnesia: The dark descent

Psychonauts

LIMBO

Superbrothers: Sword and Sorcery EP

and do you also want Bastion as a bonus to it all?

Yeah, I thought you did.. For only $7.66, all these great games can be yours.

http://www.humblebundle.com/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 01, 2012, 11:27:18 AM
Can't speak for Superbrothers: Sword and Sorcery EP but literally ALL the others are fantastic.  Is it worth grabbing it for Superbrothers: Sword and Sorcery EP?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 01, 2012, 11:33:25 AM
Wow that a much more impressive bundle than the last one. Do want.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on June 01, 2012, 11:42:37 AM
Can't speak for Superbrothers: Sword and Sorcery EP but literally ALL the others are fantastic.  Is it worth grabbing it for Superbrothers: Sword and Sorcery EP?

Sure! If you already have Bastion, you can pay whatever you want for just Sword & Sorcery.. (I know it's a lot of fun on the ipad, never really played it on anything else though..)

You only need to pay above the average donation if you want Bastion with it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 01, 2012, 06:08:41 PM
I own Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery and it's alright. A little short, and very much a point and click adventure with cool music.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on June 01, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
Does anyone play any dungeon crawl games?  I need advice on how to go past level 5 (on PC) on the Stone Soup's graphical one?  Right now, I only had one go to level 7 but died right when he leveled.

Yes, I have seen this topic (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,42159.0.html) but it's not helpful.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on June 03, 2012, 10:45:48 AM
And on another thought: is it worth the money for this: http://www.humblebundle.com ?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 03, 2012, 10:49:16 AM
Bastion is worth the money.

http://youtu.be/gY97XgvQmDw

The storytelling is pretty epic in that game. I really enjoy the narration. The music is outstanding. The artwork/presentation is awesome. And it's a simple yet fun action RPG. :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 03, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
Each one of those games is easily worth the asking price on it's own.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 04, 2012, 08:14:50 PM
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/04/wolves-bears-the-british-oh-my-the-e3-assassins-creed-3-tra/#continued

I completely wrote off the games after the second one but look at the gameplay trailer at the bottom of that page. Holy crap it gets intense.

And I'm so glad it's not taking place in a city anymore.

EDIT:

And another upcoming Ubisoft game:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/04/watch-dogs-announced-for-next-gen-consoles/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on June 05, 2012, 12:42:33 AM
Wow, if this isn't all scripted BS, then this has to be the best demo footage of a game ever..

The Last Of Us:

http://www.destructoid.com/e3-please-just-watch-this-last-of-us-footage-228753.phtml
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 05, 2012, 06:22:40 AM
Wow, if this isn't all scripted BS, then this has to be the best demo footage of a game ever..

The Last Of Us:

http://www.destructoid.com/e3-please-just-watch-this-last-of-us-footage-228753.phtml

The combat looked insane.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 05, 2012, 12:28:21 PM
The NPC behaviour in Watch Dogs is phenomenal if it isn't scripted.  Gonna wait to see an LP or something before buying it though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 06, 2012, 10:19:17 AM
Want:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/70755535/dead-state-the-zombie-survival-rpg
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on June 07, 2012, 12:42:32 PM
I enjoy this thread. So many ideas for cool games to play.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 07, 2012, 12:55:47 PM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dhagar/cult-awakening-of-the-old-ones

Promising game being made by nice guy.  Check it out?

E: The humble bundle guys just added Braid, Super Meat Boy, and Lone Survivor.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 07, 2012, 04:07:03 PM
The game looked meh... although I'll bookmark and keep an eye on development.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 07, 2012, 04:32:33 PM
Fair enough, I just see a DF Adventurer Mode tailored almost precisely to my own preferences ;D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on June 08, 2012, 10:39:46 AM
Who is playing EVE Online these days?  I'm reactivating my accounts.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on June 08, 2012, 03:15:30 PM
Maaaan Lone Survivor is hard in part 2 (after going down the stairs). Sooo many monsters, absolutely horrid targeting and combat system, and no apparent way of sneaking past rather than fighting. I stopped playing it after the 8th or so death at the same spot. Sucks, loved the game until then. :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 09, 2012, 07:38:21 PM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/09/neal-stephensons-making-a-game-called-clang/

Never thought I'd see this dude stood next to Gaben.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 09, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/09/neal-stephensons-making-a-game-called-clang/

Never thought I'd see this dude stood next to Gaben.

As a fencer I'm half excited to see this. Not so excited about motion control included in the game. Fencing, a vast majority of it, is about foot work.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on June 10, 2012, 12:50:08 AM
I fenced for a few years. Maybe most people at my local club just weren't very good, but I found footwork to be pretty unimportant when I'M SO TALL NOBODY CAN REACH ME.

Definitely going to buy into the Kickstarter because A) Snow Crash and B) Gaben.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 10, 2012, 08:30:38 AM
Footwork is a very ambiguous term that encompasses many elements of positioning, stance, balance and general manipulation of momentum. Many people mistakenly believe it's simply stepping in the right place. It's a little more complicate than that.

I tried fencing for a little bit, wasn't really my type of sport. (read; I sucked at it)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 10, 2012, 09:24:10 AM
I fenced for a few years. Maybe most people at my local club just weren't very good, but I found footwork to be pretty unimportant when I'M SO TALL NOBODY CAN REACH ME.

Definitely going to buy into the Kickstarter because A) Snow Crash and B) Gaben.

I did three months of footwork in my teens when I first started fencing before my coach would even let me touch my first foil. Not sure what club you went to but it sounds like it wasn't a very serious one.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 11, 2012, 01:21:40 PM
Oh Japan, you've really outdone yourselves this time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ejBt-CWCv4E)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on June 11, 2012, 01:48:55 PM
Oh Japan, you've really outdone yourselves this time. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ejBt-CWCv4E)

Highlight: the panda sex scene. Complete with little heart icons popping up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 15, 2012, 09:08:38 PM
I'm in the FTL beta.

www.ftlgame.com
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 15, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
I'm in the FTL beta.

www.ftlgame.com


 :'(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 15, 2012, 09:28:13 PM
I'm in the FTL beta.

www.ftlgame.com

Tell us how it is. That's looks fuckin sweet. :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 15, 2012, 09:44:04 PM
I played the demo they had. It was really fun. Are there openings for beta? Is it invite? I must know!!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on June 15, 2012, 10:34:47 PM
I played the demo they had. It was really fun. Are there openings for beta? Is it invite? I must know!!!

Beta went out to pay who pledged $25 during the kickstarter. Maybe some others from the press but that's about it.

The game is really good. Extremely addictive and challenging at times. We're all posting bug reports and suggestions back.

The bad:

(1) Graphical anomalies on Radeon cards. Hopefully fixed before release.
(2) No "save" at all, including no "quit and save" functionality. The devs are currently don't want to put this into the game at all and a lot of people are asking for it.
(3) Unforgiving. They might tweak balance. Right now there's easy mode and normal mode. I think normal should be split into normal and hard, with normal offering higher scrap drops.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 18, 2012, 04:10:37 PM
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/worlds_of_ultima_the_savage_empire/
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/ultima_worlds_of_adventure_2_martian_dreams

Both are currently free and worth every penny :)

Also, the time of year where we give all our money to Valve is rapidly approaching.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on June 18, 2012, 05:47:40 PM
Managed to snag myself a nearly mint-condition copy of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition for the pre-owned price.

Suh-weet.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 18, 2012, 09:00:58 PM
Managed to snag myself a nearly mint-condition copy of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition for the pre-owned price.

Suh-weet.
I have that. I played it 'til disc 2. Then my cat jumped into the XBOX right when I'd put the disc in. Scratched disc 2 so badly that's it's unplayable, now.

It was good up until that point!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on June 18, 2012, 09:18:27 PM
I'm excited for the new Assassin's Creed! I really hope it's accurate to history and Mohawk culture, or else!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on June 18, 2012, 10:46:56 PM
Got a priority beta key for Planetside 2. I really can't wait for that to start up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on June 27, 2012, 05:41:56 AM
The Sword of Islam DLC/expansion just got released for CK2.

BRB, bringing Sharia law to Britannia :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on June 27, 2012, 09:24:12 AM
Got a priority beta key for Planetside 2. I really can't wait for that to start up.

I'm so upset about this because I can't find my old PS1 account and I hate SOE's account management system to reset passwords and crap.  It's so freaken annoying.  I -think- I got a beta key put in, I have no clue.  I want to play this damn beta so badly.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on June 30, 2012, 04:47:50 AM
Managed to snag myself a nearly mint-condition copy of The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings Enhanced Edition for the pre-owned price.

Suh-weet.

Came with a flawless copy of the Witcher 2 soundtrack, as well. Awesome score - Love listening to it while ARMing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on June 30, 2012, 11:13:17 AM
Got a priority beta key for Planetside 2. I really can't wait for that to start up.

I'm so upset about this because I can't find my old PS1 account and I hate SOE's account management system to reset passwords and crap.  It's so freaken annoying.  I -think- I got a beta key put in, I have no clue.  I want to play this damn beta so badly.

You aren't missing anything yet, it's still not live.

Good news for you is everyone with a Planetside 1 account gets beta access, and will be prioritized for the first wave of invites.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Armaddict on June 30, 2012, 12:41:51 PM
Who is playing EVE Online these days?  I'm reactivating my accounts.

I do.  I see Halaster log in every now and again as well.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on June 30, 2012, 03:49:55 PM
Got a priority beta key for Planetside 2. I really can't wait for that to start up.

I'm so upset about this because I can't find my old PS1 account and I hate SOE's account management system to reset passwords and crap.  It's so freaken annoying.  I -think- I got a beta key put in, I have no clue.  I want to play this damn beta so badly.

You aren't missing anything yet, it's still not live.

Good news for you is everyone with a Planetside 1 account gets beta access, and will be prioritized for the first wave of invites.

Yeah, problem I'm having is that the old account is on an old AOL e-mail I don't have access too anymore... which sucks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on June 30, 2012, 04:23:50 PM
Awww. I remember having some email exchanges about Eve online with Halaster. It's heartwarming that he still plays.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on June 30, 2012, 04:25:21 PM
Awww. I remember having some email exchanges about Eve online with Halaster. It's heartwarming that he still plays.


Last game I played with Halaster was Age of Conan heheh :)

Soo long ago, it seems!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on June 30, 2012, 04:29:29 PM
Got a priority beta key for Planetside 2. I really can't wait for that to start up.

I'm so upset about this because I can't find my old PS1 account and I hate SOE's account management system to reset passwords and crap.  It's so freaken annoying.  I -think- I got a beta key put in, I have no clue.  I want to play this damn beta so badly.

You aren't missing anything yet, it's still not live.

Good news for you is everyone with a Planetside 1 account gets beta access, and will be prioritized for the first wave of invites.

I miss Planetside.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on June 30, 2012, 09:29:01 PM
Got a priority beta key for Planetside 2. I really can't wait for that to start up.

I'm so upset about this because I can't find my old PS1 account and I hate SOE's account management system to reset passwords and crap.  It's so freaken annoying.  I -think- I got a beta key put in, I have no clue.  I want to play this damn beta so badly.

You aren't missing anything yet, it's still not live.

Good news for you is everyone with a Planetside 1 account gets beta access, and will be prioritized for the first wave of invites.

I miss Planetside.

If you have an account from way back when, they just gave every existing account a bunch of free game time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: marko on July 01, 2012, 01:59:50 AM
I still play EVE Online.  Kinda.

Sorta.

I skill up in EVE Online.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Evoru on July 01, 2012, 02:44:18 AM
I like board games. A lot. I recently blew $60 on Arkham Asylum so that I could be repeatedly mauled by Cthulhu and made to feel shame over my inability to save the world.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on July 01, 2012, 05:11:50 AM
Picked up Dawn of War 1 and all expansions during the DoW steam sale. I'm quickly remembering why this is one of my favorite RTS games ever.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Armaddict on July 01, 2012, 05:24:40 AM
Picked up Dawn of War 1 and all expansions during the DoW steam sale. I'm quickly remembering why this is one of my favorite RTS games ever.

I'm in love with Soulstorm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on July 01, 2012, 03:50:12 PM
Picked up Dawn of War 1 and all expansions during the DoW steam sale. I'm quickly remembering why this is one of my favorite RTS games ever.

I was just going to post the link to it! It's still on sale, 14.99$ for Dawn of War 2 - Complete pack :)

It's not one of my favorite RTS game ever, it IS my favorite RTS game ever.

http://store.steampowered.com/sub/7432/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: chrisdcoulombe on July 01, 2012, 04:36:05 PM
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/29/dayz-how-you-live-is-what-matters

Arma 2
Day z mod
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cind on July 01, 2012, 11:45:18 PM
"shrapnel." Its messed up. Freaking love it. Short text game.

You'll have to download the client that its made for, but it doesn't take too long. Guy who made them has other games in the list but shrapnel is my favorite of the ones I've played.

http://adamcadre.ac/if.html (http://adamcadre.ac/if.html)

EDIT: Oh, wait, browser client, here it is. http://zmpp.sourceforge.net/games/play.php?name=Shrapnel%20%28Adam%20Cadre%29&storyfile=shrapnel.z5 (http://zmpp.sourceforge.net/games/play.php?name=Shrapnel%20%28Adam%20Cadre%29&storyfile=shrapnel.z5)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 02, 2012, 09:06:05 AM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/392911_335546639853876_673488056_n.jpg)

About damn time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: redkank on July 02, 2012, 01:43:14 PM
Hitler gets banned on Xbox Live.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=sfkDxF2kn1I&NR=1
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 02, 2012, 05:13:04 PM
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/392911_335546639853876_673488056_n.jpg)

About damn time.

Heh. Hoping end of 2013 as that's just about right for a hardware refresh on my end.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on July 03, 2012, 06:06:38 AM
"shrapnel." Its messed up. Freaking love it. Short text game.

I heard it is very good. I played Varicella from the same guy and, while very good, the time limit made in extremely frustrating. But Varicella is awesome antihero.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 04, 2012, 12:43:46 PM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dhagar/cult-awakening-of-the-old-ones

Promising game being made by nice guy.  Check it out?

30 hours to go and it's almost 600% funded.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 04, 2012, 06:38:09 PM
Anyone playing The Secret World?

Curious if its any good or just another MMO failure.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 04, 2012, 11:19:37 PM
Commandos: B.E.L. AAIQP-6J0C2-8Q4XP
Commandos: B.C.D. A6PEH-3E7PV-6JZRB

Some old school strategy games that will totally kick your ass.  Keys can be redeemed on Steam.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on July 05, 2012, 08:55:04 AM
Anyone playing The Secret World?

Curious if its any good or just another MMO failure.


I am.  It's not a failure, but it's not amazing.  The game is very good in my opinion and gets away from the typical MMO style that out there.  Gamespy really has a good WIP review on it, http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-secret-world/1225319p1.html.

I really enjoy the Investigation quests and how the game allows you to create your class how you feel like it.  Character creation, like Gamespy says, is kinda lack luster and combat while interesting seems to lack a bit.  It's in my opinion one of the best games Funcom has put out and with a bit more time will turn it into an even better game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Hot_Dancer on July 06, 2012, 07:00:32 PM
..Total War is bringing in Rome? ..My life is over. OVER
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dakota on July 06, 2012, 07:15:13 PM
i want to play DayZ.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on July 07, 2012, 02:11:28 AM
I'm really impressed by Spec Ops: The Line

You don't see shooters with this kind of guts.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 07, 2012, 02:33:18 AM
I'm really impressed by Spec Ops: The Line

You don't see shooters with this kind of guts.

Guts? That's incredibly vague. What does it do gutsy?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 08, 2012, 03:45:21 PM
Rezzed was great fun, but I'm now stuck impatiently waiting for Prison Architect to come out.  I could have happily played that thing all weekend.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Karieith on July 08, 2012, 03:52:07 PM
Internet flash games are getting good all of a sudden...

Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://ponycorns.com/) is the new gold standard of videogames.

Also, Treadmillasaurus Rex is more fun than it should be. (http://armorgames.com/play/6740/treadmillasaurus-rex)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on July 08, 2012, 11:49:46 PM
I'm really impressed by Spec Ops: The Line

You don't see shooters with this kind of guts.

It makes you do morally ambiguous things.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on July 09, 2012, 03:32:32 AM
I'm really impressed by Spec Ops: The Line

You don't see shooters with this kind of guts.

Guts? That's incredibly vague. What does it do gutsy?

I just really like how they don't skirt issues like collateral damage, post traumatic stress disorder, civilians on th battlefield, etc. But what I -really- liked was that the game questions the protagonist's (by extension the player's) morality throughout the game.

Remember that level in MW:2 where you were pretending to be a terrorist gunning down civilians in an airport? That was fucking stupid and I pretty much forgot about it right after.

On the other hand, this game is probably gonna stick with me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on July 10, 2012, 03:58:50 PM
Wow, that OUYA console is setting new records on kickstarter.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 10, 2012, 05:47:20 PM
OUYA intrigues me, but I'm not fully convinced it's worth buying.  The open nature is really appealing and definitely a step in the right direction for consoles; but with the next generation of established consoles just around the corner, it seems as though the hardware runs the risk of becoming obsolete sooner rather than later.  It should be brilliant for developers (especially those who generally focus on the PC), but I'm unsure if it's worth buying one as a gamer.  The pessimist in me predicts insane amounts of pay-to-win trash flooding their store.

E: Besides, I can always just plug my PC into the TV and use a PS3 controller.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Chettaman on July 10, 2012, 06:23:44 PM
Armored Core. We've been through so much. From blocky, slow moving machine-things (AC1, 2 etc) to slightly more movable robots of destruction (...etc AC3) to fully mobilized Armored Core units. (AC4 and For answer) But this new one... where we're all mercenaries. Has disappointed me. Not as much as xenosaga1 - xenosaga2. But you have failed my expectations.

Armored Core 5 - 4 stars
 You went back to the graphics and movability of Armored Core three for some reason, although the multi-play-ability /is/ cool. I'd rather be able to actually just play the way you trained me from 4 and For Answer. High-speed.

Armored core: for answer - 10 stars
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Post by: janeshephard on July 11, 2012, 05:51:22 PM
Star Command PC/MAC Kickstarter. I guess they want money for another year of not delivering haha.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/starcommand/star-command-kickstart-part-2-the-pc-mac-space-adv
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Post by: janeshephard on July 11, 2012, 08:31:04 PM
Gnome Fortress :) Still alpha but at least its very playable and not in alpha hell..

http://www.desura.com/games/gnomoria/videos/alpha-gameplay-trailer
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Post by: jstorrie on July 11, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
Tomorrow I'm getting Skyrim (and the DLC, I guess.)
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Post by: JustAnotherGuy on July 12, 2012, 08:30:52 AM
Gnome Fortress :) Still alpha but at least its very playable and not in alpha hell..

http://www.desura.com/games/gnomoria/videos/alpha-gameplay-trailer

Wow, that looks very interesting.  Have you been playing it at all?  From the looks of it, it's not very different from DF.
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Post by: lordcooper on July 12, 2012, 09:55:41 AM
Wow, that OUYA console is setting new records on kickstarter.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

$3,946,586 on the second day.  It would seem that a lot of people want this thing.
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Post by: Maso on July 12, 2012, 11:25:59 AM
Wow, that OUYA console is setting new records on kickstarter.

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console

$3,946,586 on the second day.  It would seem that a lot of people want this thing.

That's awesome. Getting in on that.
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Post by: Akaramu on July 12, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
Does anyone know where to download RPG maker games? Some of them sound pretty neat...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 12, 2012, 01:05:10 PM
Does anyone know where to download RPG maker games? Some of them sound pretty neat...

There are a load on their official forums (http://forums.rpgmakerweb.com/index.php?/forum/19-completed-games/).  Other than that, just google the specific names :)
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Post by: lordcooper on July 12, 2012, 01:38:35 PM
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Post by: janeshephard on July 12, 2012, 04:42:47 PM
Crusader Kings II... for only 9.99$.... so thinking of getting it.
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Post by: lordcooper on July 12, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
Crusader Kings II... for only 9.99$.... so thinking of getting it.

It's absolutely worth that price, and a lot more besides.
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Post by: jstorrie on July 12, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
If my graphics card could handle CKII I would buy it ten times. CKI was aaaaawesome. Paradox makes the best grand strategy games, period.
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Post by: Malken on July 12, 2012, 06:43:25 PM
It's kinda sad that I pretty much already have all of the games that are currently on sale  :-\
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Post by: janeshephard on July 12, 2012, 06:49:52 PM
Crusader Kings II... for only 9.99$.... so thinking of getting it.

It's absolutely worth that price, and a lot more besides.

Finding it very confusing but I'm going to stick through it. Any good places to start? England?
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Post by: lordcooper on July 12, 2012, 07:06:49 PM
For those picking up CK2, I'd highly recommend you check out the Sword of Islam DLC.  The rest is pretty much cosmetic, but SoI adds a fair bit to the game.

If my graphics card could handle CKII I would buy it ten times. CKI was aaaaawesome. Paradox makes the best grand strategy games, period.

I've been playing it with what is among the worst of intel integrated chipsets.  A little clunky, but perfectly playable.  For some reason the demo performed far worse than the actual game.

Crusader Kings II... for only 9.99$.... so thinking of getting it.

It's absolutely worth that price, and a lot more besides.

Finding it very confusing but I'm going to stick through it. Any good places to start? England?

Yeah, it took about four or five hours for me to really get it, but things fell into place very rapidly after that.  The easiest way to learn the game (IMO) is by starting off as an Irish count.  You'd be on a pretty much even footing with most of your neighbours, won't have to worry about pleasing a liege, and generally have time to play around a bit before worrying about any of the superpowers.  Just try to gain control of Ulster ASAP to prevent the English/Scots/Normans gaining a foothold in Ireland and you should be safe enough at the start.  England starts off at war so is probably best left until after you've got a grip on the basics.  Scotland is a fairly decent alternative if you'd like to jump straight in as a king.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 12, 2012, 07:09:29 PM


Yeah, it took about four or five hours for me to really get it, but things fell into place very rapidly after that.  The easiest way to learn the game (IMO) is by starting off as an Irish count.  You'd be on a pretty much even footing with most of your neighbours, won't have to worry about pleasing a liege, and generally have time to play around a bit before worrying about any of the superpowers.  Just try to gain control of Ulster ASAP to prevent the English/Scots/Normans gaining a foothold in Ireland and you should be safe enough at the start.  England starts off at war so is probably best left until after you've got a grip on the basics.  Scotland is a fairly decent alternative if you'd like to jump straight in as a king.

I LOL'd at the Irish count thing. Will give it a go before getting back to actual work.
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Post by: Recharge on July 12, 2012, 07:54:36 PM
Internet flash games are getting good all of a sudden...

Sissy's Magical Ponycorn Adventure (http://ponycorns.com/) is the new gold standard of videogames.

Also, Treadmillasaurus Rex is more fun than it should be. (http://armorgames.com/play/6740/treadmillasaurus-rex)


Both very entertaining.
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Post by: Gilgamesh on July 12, 2012, 08:00:06 PM
http://www.ultimaratioregum.co.uk/game/info/ (http://www.ultimaratioregum.co.uk/game/info/)

An indie roguelike. Great game, but it's just released it's first edition. So it's not really a game just yet.

It's a very tiny, few seconds download to try the game. But don't judge it just yet, considering about that's about 5% of what is going to be implemented.
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Post by: Cind on July 12, 2012, 08:05:24 PM
Sissy's Ponycorn Adventure is turning out to be really fun.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 12, 2012, 08:13:37 PM
OK CK2 is awesome. My count died, and his successor had assassination of his father as his ambition/plot :)
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Post by: Recharge on July 12, 2012, 09:33:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nicvyhrmTDs

soon..ish
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 12, 2012, 09:40:07 PM

Yeah, it took about four or five hours for me to really get it, but things fell into place very rapidly after that.  The easiest way to learn the game (IMO) is by starting off as an Irish count.  You'd be on a pretty much even footing with most of your neighbours, won't have to worry about pleasing a liege, and generally have time to play around a bit before worrying about any of the superpowers.  Just try to gain control of Ulster ASAP to prevent the English/Scots/Normans gaining a foothold in Ireland and you should be safe enough at the start.  England starts off at war so is probably best left until after you've got a grip on the basics.  Scotland is a fairly decent alternative if you'd like to jump straight in as a king.

Were you able, as an Irish count, to raise a decent size army, and lay claim + siege? I wasn't able to. My army size was always too small to siege :(
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Post by: lordcooper on July 12, 2012, 10:11:37 PM

Yeah, it took about four or five hours for me to really get it, but things fell into place very rapidly after that.  The easiest way to learn the game (IMO) is by starting off as an Irish count.  You'd be on a pretty much even footing with most of your neighbours, won't have to worry about pleasing a liege, and generally have time to play around a bit before worrying about any of the superpowers.  Just try to gain control of Ulster ASAP to prevent the English/Scots/Normans gaining a foothold in Ireland and you should be safe enough at the start.  England starts off at war so is probably best left until after you've got a grip on the basics.  Scotland is a fairly decent alternative if you'd like to jump straight in as a king.

Were you able, as an Irish count, to raise a decent size army, and lay claim + siege? I wasn't able to. My army size was always too small to siege :(

If you hold a demesne consisting of a single castle, you're definitely going to struggle to conquer anything in a straightforward battle.  There are a few options available to you.

1. Pay for the buildings that raise your amount of soldiers.  It'll take a while for you to be able to afford this, but it's a good habit to get into in my experience.

2. Hire some mercenaries.  They don't come cheap and you'll need to pay a significant upkeep fee, but even a small band of mercs will allow you to trample a count or two.  Protip: for maximum benefit, wait until you have several claims that you can press sequentially.  You'll need to lower your personal and vassal levies to declare war, but mercs can stay.

3. Tell your marshal to train troops (increases your levies temporarily), ensure the Bishop likes you more than the Pope and do whatever you can to increase your Mayor's favour of you.  Defenders get a bonus in hilly and mountainous terrain, so lure your enemy into attacking you and wage a war of attrition.  You'll need to lower your levies in order to raise fresh ones, but if pulled off correctly you should be able to win eventually.

4. Get some nearby allies by marrying close family members of yours to close family members of theirs.  Ensure they like you more than your soon to be foe, and call them to war.

5. Use intrigue to win.  Get a member of your dynasty to inherit the desired title through whatever means necessary.  Kill off enough people and eventually you'll inherit the title.  This may take a while in the early game, but later on it's a brilliant way to gain entire Kingdoms, or even Empires.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 12, 2012, 11:57:45 PM
I did better as Scotland and until I decided I had no one else to press claims on except England haha.

Good game. Going to spend more time on it later and maybe read a guide or two. The whole inheritance thing can be confusing.

EDIT: Any other Paradox strat games like this? Essentially take 3-4 hours to begin to learn but REALLY fun after?
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Post by: lordcooper on July 13, 2012, 12:43:17 PM
I did better as Scotland and until I decided I had no one else to press claims on except England haha.

Good game. Going to spend more time on it later and maybe read a guide or two. The whole inheritance thing can be confusing.

EDIT: Any other Paradox strat games like this? Essentially take 3-4 hours to begin to learn but REALLY fun after?

The genre is called grand strategy (http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games?genre=2&type=All&platform=All) and Paradox are the undisputed king of them.  Europa Universalis 3, Victoria 2 and Hearts of Iron 3 are probably the games most worth looking at.  Many Paradox games allow you to import saves from each other to continue building your empire.

E: Oh, and there's a Game of Thrones mod for CK2.  You'll have to register your game on the Paradox forums to grab it, but it's pretty fantastic so far.
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Post by: jstorrie on July 13, 2012, 12:57:06 PM
Finding it very confusing but I'm going to stick through it. Any good places to start? England?

I haven't played CKII, but in CKI I liked starting in these provinces:

- Madrid/any of the higher-level Iberian provinces: you start surrounded by the Cordoban Caliphate, which means you have a lot of foreigners to attack for fame, glory, and territory. Conversely, though, they're all probably more advanced than you, so this is a challenging yet action-packed start.

- Steiermark/any of the richer provinces in the Austria/Switzerland region - your province is fairly wealthy, and you're on the southern edge of the HRE - with allies to the north of you, and the juicy, rich Po River region to your south. Often in these games I'll expand southwards, claim Venice or Genoa, and then use the wealth of that city to hit way above my belt in the Crusades. You can then ply your Crusade glory into domination of Italy, including Rome, if you so desire.

- The Crimea region - if you want to take it slow, this is fairly remote and a cool-looking place to center a kingdom. The provinces tend to be pretty poor, though...

- Sjelland - I like the idea of my capital province being an island! To do well here, focus on developing your province while you keep throwing political wrenches up at the Holy Roman Emperor. Once provinces start rebelling, smash them for the Emperor, and create a duchy for yourself!

- Ireland - Ireland is fairly removed from most of Europe and a good place to quietly build yourself a kingdom. None of the provinces are particularly rich, but all you have to do is grab Alexandria in a Crusade and you'll be flush with cash anyway...

- The pre-Russian provinces around the Volga - very rich, especially if you grab the Ukraine, but the line of succession is an absolute mess. You have to be aggressive with both war and politics here to carve out a strong kingdom before the Mongols arrive.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 13, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
... starting to get it. Figuring out the de jure titles, and fabricating for the right titles to have de jure claims... etc etc.

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Post by: JustAnotherGuy on July 13, 2012, 01:47:45 PM
Is it me or has the Steam Sale so far pretty much sucked?  A few good games, but I already have them.
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Post by: Malken on July 13, 2012, 01:50:52 PM
Is it me or has the Steam Sale so far pretty much sucked?  A few good games, but I already have them.

Well, I don't think it's the sale that sucks, it's mostly us who already have all the good games heheh..

I can't really think of a game that I would want and didn't already get because it's not/wasn't on sale yet..

But if this keeps up, I think I'm going to start a Kickstarter fundraising for my steam purchases.
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Post by: JustAnotherGuy on July 14, 2012, 03:16:52 AM
Good point.  I've gotten a few DLCs for games I have for cheap, that has been nice.  Just no game that I've seen really has stood out.  I almost got the new Heroes of Might and Magic, but I already have so many strategy games to play right now.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 14, 2012, 02:28:04 PM
So I'm King of Ireland with my son as the only heir... this is good.

My wife is the spymaster and she ROCKS. I've uncovered tons of plots. I gave my half-brother a county because it had no castle and players can't be barons -- also to shut him up. Then I discover he has a plot to take a dutchy from me... why couldn't he just ask man? So I gave him the dutchy. I figured my demense would grow smaller but it didn't.

What exactly happens if I still hold the counties but I give up a dutchy to someone. They just get extra income?
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Post by: chrisdcoulombe on July 14, 2012, 02:39:14 PM
Dark souls: prepare to die edition for pc comes out august 24.
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Post by: Kastion on July 14, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
So I'm King of Ireland with my son as the only heir... this is good.

My wife is the spymaster and she ROCKS. I've uncovered tons of plots. I gave my half-brother a county because it had no castle and players can't be barons -- also to shut him up. Then I discover he has a plot to take a dutchy from me... why couldn't he just ask man? So I gave him the dutchy. I figured my demense would grow smaller but it didn't.

What exactly happens if I still hold the counties but I give up a dutchy to someone. They just get extra income?


demense is measured by the individual holdings you have such as castles and towns. You have to give some of those away to mayors or someone to lower it. Also watch out for your wife as spymaster, your family will backstab you so fast your head will spin on that game.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 14, 2012, 03:24:49 PM
So I'm King of Ireland with my son as the only heir... this is good.

My wife is the spymaster and she ROCKS. I've uncovered tons of plots. I gave my half-brother a county because it had no castle and players can't be barons -- also to shut him up. Then I discover he has a plot to take a dutchy from me... why couldn't he just ask man? So I gave him the dutchy. I figured my demense would grow smaller but it didn't.

What exactly happens if I still hold the counties but I give up a dutchy to someone. They just get extra income?


demense is measured by the individual holdings you have such as castles and towns. You have to give some of those away to mayors or someone to lower it. Also watch out for your wife as spymaster, your family will backstab you so fast your head will spin on that game.

So a Duke just gets income from holdings under him given to counts, and bishops and mayors?

Would it make sense, then as King of Ireland to give away dutchies to my close family (barring backstabbing) so they can deal with all the vassals and I just deal with them?
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Post by: Kastion on July 14, 2012, 03:53:58 PM
So I'm King of Ireland with my son as the only heir... this is good.

My wife is the spymaster and she ROCKS. I've uncovered tons of plots. I gave my half-brother a county because it had no castle and players can't be barons -- also to shut him up. Then I discover he has a plot to take a dutchy from me... why couldn't he just ask man? So I gave him the dutchy. I figured my demense would grow smaller but it didn't.

What exactly happens if I still hold the counties but I give up a dutchy to someone. They just get extra income?



demense is measured by the individual holdings you have such as castles and towns. You have to give some of those away to mayors or someone to lower it. Also watch out for your wife as spymaster, your family will backstab you so fast your head will spin on that game.

So a Duke just gets income from holdings under him given to counts, and bishops and mayors?

Would it make sense, then as King of Ireland to give away dutchies to my close family (barring backstabbing) so they can deal with all the vassals and I just deal with them?


ya you get a percentage of the tax from the things under you which you can raise through technology or buildings and laws. The same applies for NPCs. Directly controlling castles will make you alot of money. You can spread your stuff out to relatives to help control it but allways make sure you have enough land to crush them whenever they rebel, cause they have a habit of breaking off one after the other when they think you are weak.
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Post by: lordcooper on July 14, 2012, 05:17:40 PM
What exactly happens if I still hold the counties but I give up a dutchy to someone. They just get extra income?

It'll also give them de jure claims on all the other de jure counties in that duchy.  The best way I've found is to simply hold two large/powerful duchies that are next to each other yourself (any more starts giving you serious relationship penalties) and grant entire duchies to your vassals along with all lower titles.  Splitting up duchies can lead to loads of 'desires duchy x' relationship penalties and assassination/usurping plots.  Unless you want that kinda thing.  It can be beneficial on occasion.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 14, 2012, 05:30:44 PM
So one more question....

When I have claim and go to war, and get 100% warscore. The enemy sometimes agrees to swear fealty to me and other times "gives up" the title allowing me to usurp it. Is there a way to always force them to give up their title? I end up provoking them so many times just to push them into rebellion. Pain in the ass.
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Post by: lordcooper on July 14, 2012, 05:37:41 PM
When pressing a de jure (read: concerning law) claim you have no actual right to hold that title, it's just that the holder of the title in question is traditionally/legally thought of as being subordinate to you.  If you have an actual 'de facto' (concerning fact) claim on the title, you can usurp it.

E: FYI Holy Wars allow you to usurp ALL titles in the contested de facto duchy (but you'd better have a LOT of allies of the same religion as you), whereas using 'excommunicated ruler' as casus belli gives you a shed load of piety and deposes the enemy ruler in favour of their heir without you gaining any land whatsoever.
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Post by: janeshephard on July 14, 2012, 05:40:14 PM
That explains it. If I fabricate all the claims then I can usurp it. If I do it over de jure I basically end up having to imprison and really fuck with people haha.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 14, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
Wow, you can like invite people to your court and declare war on their behalf. I think I know enough now to go play some count in the Holy Roman Empire and kick some ass haha.
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Post by: Malken on July 18, 2012, 02:46:04 PM
The Steam sales are a lot better to me these days now :)

Bought all the Company of Heroes for like $6 (Great game!), also bought Total War: Rome for like 2$ and Total War: Empire for 4$, there's also LA Noire for $5 and Thief for 2$...
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Post by: Kieandatu on July 18, 2012, 02:59:39 PM
Is anyone else in the End of Nations Alpha?

If so, can you explain... uh. THE GAME? During the times it isn't incredibly laggy, I don't actually understand what is going on. I joined a 4v4 game, and lost 2 minutes in but we had just taken a drop point and the defeat screen only listed me and one other person.

Nevermind the fact that some people in the Last Stand instance only lose a single unit and I have a hard time doing ANYTHING after the first 4 waves.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 18, 2012, 03:35:24 PM
Empire Total War is available for $4.99 on Steam, just bought it and spent another $5 on the DLC. Will post my thoughts in the days to come.

There's a whole Total War megapack up for sale on steam right now if you're into those types of games. Shogun 2 didn't interest me. Regret the purchase.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on July 18, 2012, 04:07:47 PM
Empire Total War is available for $4.99 on Steam, just bought it and spent another $5 on the DLC. Will post my thoughts in the days to come.

There's a whole Total War megapack up for sale on steam right now if you're into those types of games. Shogun 2 didn't interest me. Regret the purchase.


I did too :) Didn't buy the rest of them because I already own them all.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 18, 2012, 08:36:00 PM
Just finished playing To The Moon.  It's absolutely fantastic, even if it did cause a speck of dust to fly into my eye a couple of times.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on July 18, 2012, 09:41:01 PM
I actually looks like the new edition of Dark Souls will be available on Steam.

 :o

So anyone that missed it the first time around consoles should check it out.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on July 19, 2012, 08:22:37 AM
You people talking about Crusader Kings 2... WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

I haven't gone to work on two and a half hours of sleep in several years! And I haven't even tried the Game of Thrones mod yet... I wanted to go to bed, I really did, and then just wanted to quickly play through a few months.  :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 19, 2012, 12:05:42 PM
I had an amazing King of Ireland and Brittany who also happened to be a homosexual. His son, and sole heir was a complete waste of space so the game triggered an event where the king would lament over leaving his kingdom to an unworthy heir.

The King was battle scarred, honest, pious, kind and a genius. A martial warlord who usurped the dutchy of Brittany only a few years into his succession, and later one by one picked off the counties in Ireland, through claims both true and fabricated. His foe in Ireland, the Duke of Munster, did not stand as chance. The king then crowned himself King of Ireland and King of Brittany.

The son was craven and deceitful. A murdering, abritrary, spawn of satan who murdered two of his wifes. The son was not well liked, but a genius when it came to intrigue.

The king then decided to try and have another child, should it be a son, maybe the current heir can be removed. Unfortunately months later a daughter was born, the king died shortly after in his sleep, and his unworthy son inherited the two kingdoms only to watch his vassals rebel.

Playing the son I went full out bloodthirsty. I married my first daughter, my heir, to a courtier of my choosing through a matrilineal marriage. I then, did everything I could to piss off my vassals during feasts, and other events. One by one they revolted and one by one I put them to the sword or banished them from my realm. Eventually I had retitled almost everything to new nobles who would remain in my debt for their entire lives.

Unfortunately all that executing of noble blood ended up getting the King of Scotland to request my excommunication. Shortly after the shores of Ireland were brimming with foreign troops eager to pillage, and seige my holdings.

It was cool while it lasted :)

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 20, 2012, 10:24:56 PM
Having the hardest time claiming the empire of Brittania. If  I go to claim Scotland, England and Norway keep running in and waging war. I end up spending so much time fighting 3 countries for a handful of Scottish counties.

Also what generates drift in culture? Like turning Brittany into De Jure Ireland.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on July 21, 2012, 07:00:23 AM
Taking it very slow, my 4th generation character is only just about to start planning the invasion of England. Fortunately for me, England is being torn apart by civil war and two small independant nations who both want their share of the big cake. Previously, I had conquered the entire kingdom of Scotland for a relative who somehow ended up having a claim on it - the why still eludes me, but who cares, I put him on the throne. Then I murdered his 60 year old wife and married him to my daughter in a matrilineal marriage. SCOTLAND SHALL BE MINE!

Doing pretty good with my kingly bloodline, they generally all have pretty good traits. But the rest of the growing family keeps on plotting against me. Recently they forced me to change the succession law to 'family eldest inherits'. Was quite a pain to change it back to 'eldest child inherits all'. I did NOT want to continue playing with my uncle's useless bloodline.  >:(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 21, 2012, 10:39:57 AM

Doing pretty good with my kingly bloodline, they generally all have pretty good traits. But the rest of the growing family keeps on plotting against me. Recently they forced me to change the succession law to 'family eldest inherits'. Was quite a pain to change it back to 'eldest child inherits all'. I did NOT want to continue playing with my uncle's useless bloodline.  >:(


I appoint all excess males to bishopries and refuse to marry them. If they do it in secret I plot to kill their wifes. I'm not a kinslayer... it's family afterall, but their wives aren't going to be having any kids I can't control myself.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on July 22, 2012, 01:54:15 PM
Galactic Civilizations II: Ultimate Edition for 5$ on Steam.

What a super duper great strategy game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 22, 2012, 06:17:13 PM
Galactic Civilizations II: Ultimate Edition for 5$ on Steam.

What a super duper great strategy game.

If you like graphical spreadsheets sure... ;)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on July 22, 2012, 06:48:18 PM
Galactic Civilizations II: Ultimate Edition for 5$ on Steam.

What a super duper great strategy game.

If you like graphical spreadsheets sure... ;)

Reading your 'adventures' in Crusader Kings II, I'm going to assume that we both do  :P
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 22, 2012, 10:00:21 PM
(http://users.rcn.com/bbober/zing/zphotos/zlogo_purple.gif)

In lesser, non zing related news, I'm about to start on The Longest Journey.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on July 23, 2012, 03:46:13 PM
I can't wait to get home and RESUME MY PLANS FOR WORLD DOMINATION with Ireland in Crusader Kings 2.

Man, I'm so addicted.  :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 23, 2012, 06:47:54 PM
I can't wait to get home and RESUME MY PLANS FOR WORLD DOMINATION with Ireland in Crusader Kings 2.

Man, I'm so addicted.  :(


I'm putting the game away because it ate my life. Spent maybe 3 weeks just playing it all day long. Need to go get work done.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on July 24, 2012, 04:34:18 AM
I've been playing Civ 5 lately.

1300 AD. Samurai rise as the dominant military force in Japan. Led by Great General Patton, the Samurai conquer the majority of France and relegate former world power Napoleon to a tiny island off the coast of Alaska.
1315 AD. Japan and Persia jointly declare war on Arabia, both seeking to claim territory to expand their borders.
1325 AD. Japanese forces fight a hard battle against the Arabian city of Medina, nearly seizing the city only to have Persian cavalry emerge from the fog to take it for themselves.
1330 AD. Persian King Darius I denounces all ties to Japan, causing Japan's allies to withdraw their support.
1340 AD. Japan enters a period of stagnation brought on by civil unrest in occupied French cities and American expansionism blocking Japanese borders.
1625 AD. Japanese Warlord Oda Nobunaga invents gunpowder. The world trembles.
1650 AD. Japanese riflemen lead by Great General Jeanne D'Arc reach the front line in the raging conflict against Japan's former ally, Ghandi of India, and Ghandi's proto-UN consisting of India, America, and Arabia. They are promptly slaughtered by men with pointy sticks.

Little do they know... I'm hard at work developing the infrastructure for mass mechanized warfare, come the 19th century.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on July 24, 2012, 09:35:36 AM
 I haven't been able to afford PLEX for my EVE account for a while now, so instead I brought this..

(http://www.kalypsomedia.com/en-us/games/dso-brokenalliance/images/dso_big.jpg)

I still miss EVE.....
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on July 24, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
http://youtu.be/xmcAl5ymojM (http://youtu.be/xmcAl5ymojM)

Only about 2 years too late.

Kind of looking forward to Guild Wars 2, but really having a hard time getting enthused while dodging hype. And lets not even get started on Planetside 2.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 24, 2012, 12:22:53 PM
Oooh... so close to embracing a heresy in CK2.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on July 24, 2012, 01:13:46 PM
I'm trying to run through Torment again, this time with an evil Nameless One. I don't have the heart for it :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on July 24, 2012, 08:33:44 PM
The kid of the ruler I made in CK2 is the best I have ever seen. Average skill of 22, with 33 stewardship. No bad traits.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 24, 2012, 11:30:02 PM
The kid of the ruler I made in CK2 is the best I have ever seen. Average skill of 22, with 33 stewardship. No bad traits.

Wtf, Bene Gesserit breeding? Are those personal stats or state ones?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 25, 2012, 01:29:44 AM
I managed to inherit the Kingdoms of England, Ireland, Scotland, Norway and France simultaneously.  Winning!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on July 25, 2012, 02:55:29 AM
I managed to inherit the Kingdoms of England, Ireland, Scotland, Norway and France simultaneously.  Winning!

Whoa. How did you pull that off? :o
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 25, 2012, 03:19:09 AM
I managed to inherit the Kingdoms of England, Ireland, Scotland, Norway and France simultaneously.  Winning!

Whoa. How did you pull that off? :o

Luck, for he most part.  Started as the Duke of Munster and created the Kingdom of Ireland.  England managed to repel the invasions and invaded Norway, then (I think) they inherited France through marriage and a couple of lucky deaths/assassinations.  I allied with England and dragged them into a prolonged series of minor wars with Scotland (mainly by inviting people with little family and weak claims on parts of Scotland to my court) until I owned enough of Scotland to usurp the Kingdom.  Then it was just a case of fighting a series of tiny de jure wars and offering to vassalize people.  All the assassinations lead to a fairly major war to depose me (which I lost) and I was back to being a mere duke again, while my son sat on the throne.  He ended up marrying the third in line for the English/French/Norwegian thrones, so I assassinated the other heirs and killed him off as soon as a son was born, thus uniting the five Kingdoms.  Then I just had to wait a couple years for my main character to get killed (he was utterly detested by this point) and I could play as my grandson, the three year old King of England, Scotland, Ireland, Norway and France.

Now I just gotta conquer Wales, pledge allegiance to a Caliph, and convert to Islam.  If I play this right, the Islamic Empire of Britannia shall spread Sharia law throughout the world.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 25, 2012, 11:04:57 AM
In my current game, I am using the "divide" and conquer strategy. Anytime there's a rebellion in the UK I go in and help them. Soon they will all be small warring dutchies AND I SHALL CONSUME THEM.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on July 25, 2012, 06:40:23 PM
I managed to inherit the Kingdoms of England, Ireland, Scotland, Norway and France simultaneously.  Winning!

Whoa. How did you pull that off? :o

Luck, for he most part.  Started as the Duke of Munster and created the Kingdom of Ireland.  England managed to repel the invasions and invaded Norway, then (I think) they inherited France through marriage and a couple of lucky deaths/assassinations.  I allied with England and dragged them into a prolonged series of minor wars with Scotland (mainly by inviting people with little family and weak claims on parts of Scotland to my court) until I owned enough of Scotland to usurp the Kingdom.  Then it was just a case of fighting a series of tiny de jure wars and offering to vassalize people.  All the assassinations lead to a fairly major war to depose me (which I lost) and I was back to being a mere duke again, while my son sat on the throne.  He ended up marrying the third in line for the English/French/Norwegian thrones, so I assassinated the other heirs and killed him off as soon as a son was born, thus uniting the five Kingdoms.  Then I just had to wait a couple years for my main character to get killed (he was utterly detested by this point) and I could play as my grandson, the three year old King of England, Scotland, Ireland, Norway and France.

Now I just gotta conquer Wales, pledge allegiance to a Caliph, and convert to Islam.  If I play this right, the Islamic Empire of Britannia shall spread Sharia law throughout the world.

My game as the Duke of Munster wasn't nearly as exciting. I sent an army to that little de jure area south of Munster, and was winning the battle, only to have half my numbers disappear for no conceivable reason, at which point my army was eliminated, and I had to somehow hold my land with 18 men.

Nopenopenopenopenope
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on July 26, 2012, 07:46:49 AM
I never manage to vassalize anyone, they're either constantly at war (can only vassalize when they're at peace) or too far away to accept.

Maybe now, in the 14th century, I'll finally be able to add England to my other kingdoms and create the Empire of Britannia (I'm already king of Ireland, Scotland and Wales). Thanks to some marriage schemes my current heir will inherit a strong claim on England, at least, though the idiotic succession law of voting for candidates prevents him from inheriting directly. I've waited half a century to get a strong claim on England for the main bloodline rather than some random vassal. Le sigh. 20 more years, at most... hopefully the game won't end before then.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on July 27, 2012, 04:08:21 AM
Whoa. Running CK 2 from Steam just gave me a Malware alert (malware that was blocked). That has never happened before, not even with the same game. I hope no one hacked and infected Steam.  :o
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 27, 2012, 04:34:07 AM
I get them all the time with Avast.  It's bloody annoying.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on July 27, 2012, 02:58:09 PM
Mechwarrior : Living Legends version 0.6.0 (http://www.mechlivinglegends.net/2012-07/release-announcement-mechwarrior-living-legends-0-6-0-open-beta/)

Newest version just added a metric fuckton of content, including several new vehicles/mechs, and a few gameplay additions.  It's been roaring steadily on three servers since it first started up, and it doesn't look like it will stop.

For anyone curious : just log in and grab something with TAG.  Then point it at somebody nasty, fire off, and wait for your teammates to do the same.  Simple.

Whoa. Running CK 2 from Steam just gave me a Malware alert (malware that was blocked). That has never happened before, not even with the same game. I hope no one hacked and infected Steam.  :o

I had this problem too.  In Avast, I had to go to real-time shields, select file system shield on the drop down, then expert settings, and then exclusions.  I just added my steam folder from there and then had to restore my .dll file.

For that, you hit Maintenance, select Virus Chest from the dropdown, and then restore the file that it is mistakenly placing there.  For me, it was vstdlib_s.dll.

Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 27, 2012, 05:28:21 PM

Now I just gotta conquer Wales, pledge allegiance to a Caliph, and convert to Islam.  If I play this right, the Islamic Empire of Britannia shall spread Sharia law throughout the world.

Any guides on playing as a Muslim ruler? I have the DLC but can't figure out the mechanics.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 27, 2012, 07:25:56 PM
I haven't played as them much, but there are a few quite major differences when play as an Islamic ruler.  Spain is a pretty good place to get to grips with them due to the close presence of both Muslims and Catholics.

1. Every (male?) character can go on Hajj once.  Doing so gives you a permanent positive opinion modifier with other Muslim rulers and a small to moderate piety boost.  You can also potentially gain a few positive character attributes and/or remove some negative ones.  I tend to wait until I've developed at least one negative trait before setting off, but it can be useful to it earlier sometimes.

2. Piety is super mega important and can be used for imprisoning, declaring war and a few other things.  You lose piety by declaring war on other rulers of the same religion.

3. You can hold both castles and mosques directly without penalty.

4. The only succession mode available is Free Succession.  This means that whoever has the most titles will inherit everything and makes it pretty easy to choose your heir.

5. Decadence is a pain in the ass.  You mainly gain it by having unlanded male family (including extended family) and lose it through observing Ramadan, granting land to family members and waging war.

6. You need to ensure you have enough wives for your title, or suffer a pretty major prestige penalty.  This tends to result in loads and loads of sons who will plot against each other and you.  You can bypass this to a large extent by marrying older women, but some may consider this twinky.

7. You have an automatic casus belli against any county directly next to your own, which is nice.

8. Women are pretty much worthless, so give your daughters terrible guardians to minimise the bonuses their husbands receive.

9. Whereas it's generally beneficial to spread your dynasty far and wide as a Christian ruler, Muslims have more to gain by pruning the family tree every so often.  You REALLY don't want extended family coming into any significant power.  Your family may well turn out to be your single largest threat.

10. Be prepared to be at war a hell of a lot.  Expansion is much easier as a Muslim ruler, and rebellions seem a lot more common.

11. Keep your children weak, and your brothers/uncles even weaker.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on July 28, 2012, 07:40:13 AM
I've been watching my muslim buddy play as a muslim leader, and he's been doing pretty well.

He lived to be about 72, and conquered a sizable area including Jerusalem, held off two crusades, fought civil wars, etc. When he died and became his son, he was almost immediately assassinated by the Hashashin, and forced to play as THAT character's 3 year old son. The regent converted him from shite to sunni, despite the fact that he was the shite caliph, which caused all sorts of crazy problems. Eventually, it got to the point that the Hashashin were assassinating his council faster than he could replace them, and his Chief of Qadi was demanding that said Chief be replaced for failing to fulfill his duties.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on July 28, 2012, 11:30:54 AM
Sounds hard.

Looking for a new place to play in. Maybe I'll try Poland or something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoltan on July 28, 2012, 11:57:23 AM
Empire Total War is available for $4.99 on Steam, just bought it and spent another $5 on the DLC. Will post my thoughts in the days to come.

There's a whole Total War megapack up for sale on steam right now if you're into those types of games. Shogun 2 didn't interest me. Regret the purchase.


For Empire, go download DarthMod Ultimate Commander right now. Empire with that mod magically turns into one of the finest, most addicting games I have ever played. I can't recommend it enough. If your hardware is kind of crap (like mine), be sure to look for the smaller size units mini mod, as darthmod will stick thousands of soldiers on the field. The only thing holding this game back from ultimate glory for me is that it overheats my poor computer and doesn't perform that great. When I upgrade to a better box someday I'm going to reinstall this and then have an epic joygasm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 28, 2012, 12:17:39 PM
What do you think of vanilla Empire?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Yam on July 28, 2012, 09:09:06 PM
Vanilla Empire is fun but it's the buggiest of the Total Wars.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on July 29, 2012, 05:38:08 PM
The latest Indie Royale (http://www.indieroyale.com/) bundle is pretty ace.  Highlights are Unepic (quite a funny metroidvania game) and the Geneforge Saga (about 500 hours worth of multiple-ended, decision-making, turn-based combat RPG goodness).  It's £3.49 right now and worth a hell of a lot more.

Also of interest (to me at least  :P) are two Kickstarter projects.

Castle Story (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/902505202/castle-story) is a cool looking voxel based (not just cubes) strategy game about building castles on floating islands and defending them.  It hit it's target five hours in.  $15 gets you beta access and a full copy of the game on release.

Knock-knock (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1535515364/knock-knock) is the latest project from Ice-Pick Lodge, the crazy Russian developers who made Pathologic, The Void, and Cargo! The Quest for Gravity.  I'm not really sure how to describe the game other than a supernatural hide-em-up, but it's virtually guaranteed to be interesting and bizarre.  $5 gets you a copy of the game on release.

Vanilla Empire is fun but it's the buggiest of the Total Wars.

I'd kinda written it off as two lines of troops standing still and firing.  I'll give it another go some time if people reckon it's worthwhile.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 05, 2012, 02:31:11 PM
Picked up Fallout: New Vegas for the PC off steam for $10. Sale ended a while ago.

Had this on the PS3 and was one of the people who returned it for a full refund (buggy as hell). Hoping they patched it all up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: AdamBlue on August 05, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
I find it a bit funny how I haven't bought a single game on my steam profile and literally have hundreds of dollars worth of videogames on it.

Also, Dark Souls. Dark. Souls. DARK SOULS. DARK SOULS!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 05, 2012, 07:47:56 PM
I find it a bit funny how I haven't bought a single game on my steam profile and literally have hundreds of dollars worth of videogames on it.

Also, Dark Souls. Dark. Souls. DARK SOULS. DARK SOULS!

Gifts?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 06, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
What a bunch of bull. New Vegas is still buggy as hell. I installed an independent sheriff in Primm and people are talking about them wimping out and accepting NCR rule. NO THEY DID NOT.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on August 07, 2012, 07:38:43 AM
I'm having so much fun with that X series bundle on Steam. Immensely complex and hard to get into (the handbook and tutorial for X2, the threat, doesn't even mention the autopilot and time accelerator function), but still very addictive.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on August 08, 2012, 02:21:01 AM
LC gifted a copy of 'The Political Machine' As a democrat, it's disheartening to get your ass kicked by Sara Pailin. Then Romney. I start of really well too, usually have quite a few of the states solid blue, before that red curtain goes down.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on August 09, 2012, 06:49:58 PM
So.. The Secret World.

Yay or Nay?

http://www.thesecretworld.com/media
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Chettaman on August 09, 2012, 07:21:53 PM
Dark Souls... @_@
I suck at anything not a mage or a full on shield-wielding warrior.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cutthroat on August 09, 2012, 07:38:49 PM
Tried a bit of Crusader Kings II, both as the Earl of Dublin in 1066.

Attempt 1: I usurp a claim while waiting to buy a title for another area. Dad dies and I take his stuff. Then I die and my son takes my stuff. Half the family catches tuberculosis. Fast forward a few years. Usurping a claim finally succeeds, but the guy I took it from is really pissed off and has me excommunicated. King Harold invades Dublin and forces me to abdicate. Decided to retire there.

Attempt 2: I decide not to piss people off and just bide my time and build my economy. Then I get a prompt saying that my son's wife is throwing herself at me, and the only button/choice there is to screw her. Nine months later and a bastard is born, who I decide to legitimize, because hey, in for a penny, in for a pound. Now my son hates me (-30 for cuckoldry and -50 for legitimizing the baby, or something like that). My wife kills the son's wife and I have her arrested. A few months later, I get a prompt saying the wine tasted funny. "Who could hate me so?" Son takes over, and I find that his ambition to kill Dad succeeded. Son puts Mom in the Oubilette.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 09, 2012, 09:10:57 PM
Tried a bit of Crusader Kings II, both as the Earl of Dublin in 1066.

Attempt 1: I usurp a claim while waiting to buy a title for another area. Dad dies and I take his stuff. Then I die and my son takes my stuff. Half the family catches tuberculosis. Fast forward a few years. Usurping a claim finally succeeds, but the guy I took it from is really pissed off and has me excommunicated. King Harold invades Dublin and forces me to abdicate. Decided to retire there.

Attempt 2: I decide not to piss people off and just bide my time and build my economy. Then I get a prompt saying that my son's wife is throwing herself at me, and the only button/choice there is to screw her. Nine months later and a bastard is born, who I decide to legitimize, because hey, in for a penny, in for a pound. Now my son hates me (-30 for cuckoldry and -50 for legitimizing the baby, or something like that). My wife kills the son's wife and I have her arrested. A few months later, I get a prompt saying the wine tasted funny. "Who could hate me so?" Son takes over, and I find that his ambition to kill Dad succeeded. Son puts Mom in the Oubilette.

Usually I just WTF pwn all of Ireland and then get screwed when every damn noble wants to rebel after my leader dies. Hardest thing to do is to hold onto a large kingdom.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on August 09, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
The kid of the ruler I made in CK2 is the best I have ever seen. Average skill of 22, with 33 stewardship. No bad traits.

Wtf, Bene Gesserit breeding? Are those personal stats or state ones?
Personal stats.

I made a min/max ruler first, with tons of dodgy traits and extremely unlikeable because of it, but he only held one province so it's ok. (For anybody looking to cheap out a bit - making rulers with excommunicated and wounded (maimed if you're game) can give you significant points to spend on other things but are relatively easy to remove, excommunicated especially.)

Then he had a son (which was interesting, him being a gay dwarf lame leper, among other things), and this son inherited Genius. During the kid's childhood, he got the usual events that give personality traits. He picked up a 5% chance diligence as well as tons of virtues. Never got a single bad trait. When he needed an education, his father gave it.

Eventually he ended up being a godly financial wizard, having luck every year of education. At 10 years old, he was twice as good as most States.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on August 09, 2012, 10:38:35 PM
Not surprising, since it sounds like his dad was a gay Tyrion Lannister.

I really want to get into CK1, but, you know, Arm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 10, 2012, 09:31:41 AM
Borderlands 2 is a month away. Anyone else pre-order? It's looking a lot better than the first one.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 10, 2012, 09:40:22 AM
Borderlands 2 is a month away. Anyone else pre-order? It's looking a lot better than the first one.


Yeah, I pre-ordered it on Steam.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on August 10, 2012, 10:06:46 AM
I've been playing Blacklight: Retribution lately, and that game is fucking amazing. It's like Counterstrike, except with permanent weapon builds and the like.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 11, 2012, 04:52:33 AM
Blacklight is pretty fun, but it's basically Battleduty: Rent-a-gun 3.

It's free though, and it's definitely not P2W although you can unlock things faster with RL cash. You make enough currency with one win to unlock any of the premium weapons for 24 hours, so it's pretty easy to use whatever you want without paying.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 11, 2012, 08:50:48 AM
Borderlands 2 is a month away. Anyone else pre-order? It's looking a lot better than the first one.


Yeah, I pre-ordered it on Steam.

Tried playing the first one again but it felt stale. The world is too cardboardy and the enemies take a while before they start to change into more interesting ones. I'll wait for the second one to be $5 on steam with all the DLC.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 12, 2012, 01:32:31 AM
I bought Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning yesterday. I like it so far. Nothing amazing but a good RPG.

My friend brought over his PS3 and we played Dungeon Hunters for like 12 hours today. Badass hackandslash fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 12, 2012, 11:35:41 AM
I started playing the new Deus Ex. I like it a lot so far.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 12, 2012, 04:17:24 PM
I found Kingdoms of Amalur so awful I couldn't get past the first few quests. It's SO derivative. Just ridiculous.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on August 12, 2012, 04:19:00 PM
Pretty interesting article on Paradox (Crusader Kings 2)

Paradox: Past, present and future.

http://www.destructoid.com/paradox-past-present-and-future-232917.phtml
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 12, 2012, 11:18:42 PM
Wow elective succession is awesomesauce. Very OP if you're a grey eminence with a good spymaster.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 12, 2012, 11:25:27 PM
I can't wait for Mechwarrior Online..........
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 12, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
I can't wait for Mechwarrior Online..........

This thread belongs to CK2. Get with the program.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 12, 2012, 11:59:47 PM
Wow elective succession is awesomesauce. Very OP if you're a grey eminence with a good spymaster.

I'm gonna have to confess my ignorance here.  What benefits does it give you?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 13, 2012, 12:09:03 AM
Wow elective succession is awesomesauce. Very OP if you're a grey eminence with a good spymaster.

I'm gonna have to confess my ignorance here.  What benefits does it give you?

You nominate your heir and the vassals under you (so dukes not counts if you are king) vote your way if they like you more than anyone who nominated themselves. Also +20 opinion to all your vassals because you are "fair." I have high crown authority and still only deal with one or two troublemakers when my heir succeeds. Much better than a civil war per succession.

Anyone with too many votes gets axed through plots.

I love it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 13, 2012, 02:46:31 PM
+20 opinion would cover a few tax hikes :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 13, 2012, 03:21:58 PM
I can't wait for Mechwarrior Online..........

All I can say is... It's good. :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cutthroat on August 13, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
My next CK2 game, played from 1066 to the end, was great. I spent about 80 years starting from Dublin to become the King of Ireland. I spent some more time replacing rebellious vassals with family members and people with a high opinion of me. Eventually, noticing Scotland eating up England and constant rebellions, I decided to swoop in and take enough of Wales to become its king. Eventually I would get all of it.

While doing this, I had the Court Chaplain kissing the Pope's ring long enough, and made a very generous donation to the Holy See, so that I could request an invasion of Scotland. With a bit of fighting I became the King of Ireland, Wales, and Scotland, although I had a lot of pissed off Scottish vassals, as well as Welsh and Irish vassals whose troops I borrowed. I also gained a claim on being the King of Portugal by fighting with the Scottish king for his territory.

I had an eye on England, though interestingly the Pope would not let me invade it because it was smaller than me at this point. I spent most of the rest of the game waiting to usurp the title of the King of Portugal from the King of England. When I finally did, this seemed to piss him off enough to look for a way to start wars with me. Slowly, my almost-empire crumbled as wars broke out one after the other. I had to implement Autonomous Vassals in Wales and Scotland as part of the terms of surrender. After that, when more wars broke out, it was impossible to revoke the titles of the traitor, even if I won. Ultimately the northern part of Scotland up to Ross became independent. At the end of the game, Norway was beginning to take over the northern part of Scotland.

Ended with 37k points, and, I think, a good first "real" try that sucked me into this game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on August 13, 2012, 05:19:41 PM
GW2 is coming
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 13, 2012, 06:56:28 PM
+20 opinion would cover a few tax hikes :D

Yeah and you can pick your heir so you can have twenty kids, and only select the "finest" of the bunch. I usually go for one who is the youngest and brightest.

Became Emperor of Britannia and now I regret creating that title. With Elective Monarchy it looks like all my king titles count as electoral votes for the emperor which pisses off my vassals because I have too many electoral votes. I'm not entirely sure I trust anyone with a king title.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 13, 2012, 07:32:55 PM
Not sure what to do now.... Kingdom of France is in a very very long war to lower crown authority so invading now is too messy. Thinking of moving onto Sweden, Norway, Denmark. The mongols appeared so I'm not going anywhere near Jerusalem.

(http://i.imgur.com/jDuQh.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 13, 2012, 08:13:27 PM
Holy War?  It looks like there are a few pretty small Muslim realms in Spain.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 14, 2012, 09:32:22 AM
GW2 is coming


I pre-ordered and played in the Stress Tests... LOVED IT.  I am excited I finally have an MMO that I can play.  Wait... There is also PlanetSide 2 and MechWarrior Online... thank goodness there are no subscriptions.  I can play all three!!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 14, 2012, 07:12:01 PM
Chrono Trigger / Cross.  Am I missing much by not having played these games?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on August 14, 2012, 08:12:33 PM
I can't wait for Mechwarrior Online..........

Don't listen to jane.  Listen to me.

Mechwarrior : Living Legends (http://www.mechlivinglegends.net)

Get with the real program.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 14, 2012, 08:15:59 PM
I can't play either until I get a new computer.  :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 15, 2012, 12:41:47 AM
I can't wait for Mechwarrior Online..........

Don't listen to jane.  Listen to me.

Mechwarrior : Living Legends (http://www.mechlivinglegends.net)

Get with the real program.

I really didn't enjoy Living Legends.  MWO is so much better.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 15, 2012, 07:50:08 AM
The SimCity beta is open for registration: http://www.simcity.com/en_GB/beta/info
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 15, 2012, 07:57:33 AM
I'm really stating to grow of the opinion that betas can go fuck themselves. They've become just another tactic to get more interest, or to mass-spread their games in a lesser form in order to work out bugs among the masses.

Has anyone else noticed how popular Betas have become lately?

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 15, 2012, 08:01:43 AM
work out bugs among the masses.

That's the entire point of beta testing and pretty much always has been ???
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 15, 2012, 08:12:20 AM
work out bugs among the masses.

That's the entire point of beta testing and pretty much always has been ???

Err, well, no shit, is the regular response to such a remark. But the thing is they're using this forum to spread their games popularity, more so than to fix the bugs. They do it more to gauge interest and likeness , than to actually work out problems. That's what I mean to get by.


It's not a bad thing. It's more like a "we're not sure this idea will swing with the masses, so lets run it by them first and tweak as we come along" I'm not entirely sure where my problem comes from. Probably the idea that such a method is seeking to only please the masses, and not the individual game lover. It's a sign of seeking only the highest possible revenue, instead of the enjoyment of the individual customer.

Basically I'm mad that games are trying to please everyone, instead of trying to fit into their own niche.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 15, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
Wow, I just noticed this. I guess I really wasn't paying attention to E3 this year.

Elder Scrolls MMO gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1R5R_9Huac&feature=fvwrel
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on August 15, 2012, 03:31:20 PM
A bummer that it'll be computer only :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 15, 2012, 05:48:28 PM
A bummer that it'll be computer only :(

I suspect we may see MMOs on the Ouya. Unlike other console makers, Ouya is embracing being open, and thus supporting keyboard and mouse drivers will be a non-issue.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kieandatu on August 15, 2012, 05:52:02 PM
I'm really stating to grow of the opinion that betas can go fuck themselves. They've become just another tactic to get more interest, or to mass-spread their games in a lesser form in order to work out bugs among the masses.

Has anyone else noticed how popular Betas have become lately?



Worse yet is "Paid Betas". I actually play Betas to check on bugs. Do quests, was it easy? Is there feedback? Can I kite this mob and is it supposed to be kiteable? If I stand on this rock that I had to jump for 20minutes to get to, can I be safe from damage while holding aggro?

The paid beta idea, lately, does make me angry. Closed Beta, these days, just says "We have it, and only a few people can play it but NOT TELL YOU ABOUT IT so sign up now! We have affiliates that want to sell you things."
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on August 15, 2012, 05:57:57 PM
On the flip side, I suspect Minecraft would have shut down development a very long time ago if Notch didn't charge for the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on August 15, 2012, 08:17:57 PM
Coming back to skyrim with all the bugs fixed and an HD texture set. Now I can actually play this game!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Archbaron on August 15, 2012, 08:22:42 PM
Coming back to skyrim with all the bugs fixed and an HD texture set. Now I can actually play this game!
Same! Finally have a computer that can handle the bug-free'er version, and I started on it for real a few days ago. I always start this game and get Whiterun fever, where I never get out of that stupid city and do anything else.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 15, 2012, 09:25:39 PM
Same, only playing it on PS3 with shitty textures.

Does anyone else find the horse combat completely useless? :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Rhyden on August 15, 2012, 09:40:23 PM
Does anyone else find the horse combat completely useless? :)

Yeah...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Archbaron on August 16, 2012, 03:38:24 AM
Horse combat was equally dumb in Oblivion. It's impossible to be effective on a mount and still use a weapon unless I have two mice and three hands.

Also, I've been working on L.A. Noire. I have sunk so many hours into that game and when I thought I beat it tonight, turns out there is still more. I'm not complaining thought; I love this game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 16, 2012, 05:44:01 AM
Has anyone tried Sleeping Dogs or Wargame: European Escalation? I'm interested in both and debating what to buy when I get paid.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 16, 2012, 09:48:07 AM
Has anyone tried Sleeping Dogs or Wargame: European Escalation? I'm interested in both and debating what to buy when I get paid.

Neither really look any good and Wargame got poor reviews.  I haven't seen any reviews on Sleeping Dogs.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 16, 2012, 09:57:56 AM
Has anyone tried Sleeping Dogs or Wargame: European Escalation? I'm interested in both and debating what to buy when I get paid.

Neither really look any good and Wargame got poor reviews.  I haven't seen any reviews on Sleeping Dogs.

Do you have internets?

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/sleeping-dogs
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Rathustra on August 16, 2012, 03:02:46 PM
Wow, I just noticed this. I guess I really wasn't paying attention to E3 this year.

Elder Scrolls MMO gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1R5R_9Huac&feature=fvwrel

Wow the new WoW expansion is looking good!

Edit: Less trolly reply:
They've obviously got the visuals down - it really looks like a MMO-ified elder scrolls game. Unfortunately that interview reveals nothing except vague buzzwords and design directions. There's no real content there! So frustrating.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: TheHunted on August 16, 2012, 03:23:46 PM
Wow, I just noticed this. I guess I really wasn't paying attention to E3 this year.

Elder Scrolls MMO gameplay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1R5R_9Huac&feature=fvwrel

Wow the new WoW expansion is looking good!

Edit: Less trolly reply:
They've obviously got the visuals down - it really looks like a MMO-ified elder scrolls game. Unfortunately that interview reveals nothing except vague buzzwords and design directions. There's no real content there! So frustrating.

Also.. Don't really understand what he meant by the, 200 players fighting comment.. Like they have a 200 player cap.. Or that's just how big some of the battle grounds get. :/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 16, 2012, 04:46:34 PM
Has anyone tried Sleeping Dogs or Wargame: European Escalation? I'm interested in both and debating what to buy when I get paid.

Wargame: European Escalation seems pretty damn good from the little I've played.  You can stream a demo here (http://www.onlive.com/games/details/wargame-european-escalation?#&type=bragclips) if you have a semi-decent internet connection.

Not played Sleeping Dogs yet, but RPS posted (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/08/16/wot-i-think-sleeping-dogs/) a pretty thorough WIT today and I tend to agree with pretty much everything they write.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 17, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
Has anyone tried Sleeping Dogs or Wargame: European Escalation? I'm interested in both and debating what to buy when I get paid.

Neither really look any good and Wargame got poor reviews.  I haven't seen any reviews on Sleeping Dogs.

I've only heard good things about both of them, which is why I'm up in the air. They both have solid Metacritic scores too.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 18, 2012, 06:28:31 AM
I have a silly amount of Steam keys for Endless Space, does anyone want one?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 18, 2012, 11:11:34 AM
I have a silly amount of Steam keys for Endless Space, does anyone want one?

Yes plz.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 18, 2012, 08:35:15 PM
I'm kind of interested in it if you've still got 'em.

In other news, getgamesgo.com is like an endless steam summer sale. After some online shopping around, I'm about to pick up Arkham City, Just Cause 2, Civ 5 Gods and Kings, Wargame EE, and Total War Shogun II for a whopping $67.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 18, 2012, 11:27:45 PM
Sent :)

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on August 18, 2012, 11:34:14 PM
My sister found the complete Lunar set at this used book/electronic store for 27 buckaroos. Lucky whore.

I'm about to confiscate it and play ALL DAY.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 19, 2012, 05:57:17 AM
Thanks for the hook up, LC!

Anyone interested in a 75% off coupon for Portal 2 on steam?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Hot_Dancer on August 19, 2012, 10:27:37 AM
I love this thread - you guys do all the game shopping for me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 19, 2012, 10:01:11 PM
Fuck Games for Windows Live. Why do developers use such a bullshit DRM system that punishes lawful customers and does nothing to pirates?

I'm locked out of Arkham City for who knows how long because after starting the game up, GFWL is telling me my product key has already been redeemed. All of my fucking rage.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on August 19, 2012, 10:03:22 PM
Fuck Games for Windows Live. Why do developers use such a bullshit DRM system that punishes lawful customers and does nothing to pirates?

I'm locked out of Arkham City for who knows how long because after starting the game up, GFWL is telling me my product key has already been redeemed. All of my fucking rage.
Is it bought via Steam?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 20, 2012, 01:33:52 AM
Why do developers use such a bullshit DRM system that punishes lawful customers and does nothing to pirates?

I think appeasing shareholders might have something to do with it.  It means they can say that they're 'trying' to fight piracy without melting or something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 20, 2012, 02:18:52 AM
Nah, got it through another website. Google reveals that this is an absurdly common problem that just goes to show how ballsed up GFWL is. I've already contacted the seller's support email for another code.


Bcw81 and I have been playing Wargame pretty heavily for the past day and it's a solid game. Definitely a unique take on the RTS genre with some intense multiplayer.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on August 20, 2012, 03:38:00 AM
I have a silly amount of Steam keys for Endless Space, does anyone want one?

Yes plz.

Me too! Do you still have one left? Been meaning to try this when I'm done with X3.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 20, 2012, 04:05:34 AM
I have a silly amount of Steam keys for Endless Space, does anyone want one?

Yes plz.

Me too! Do you still have one left? Been meaning to try this when I'm done with X3.

I'll PM you one in a sec :)

Four more left after this.

E: Alpha Centauri is an absolute joy.  My life would have been very different (probably worse) if I'd discovered it when it first came out.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on August 20, 2012, 10:05:50 AM
Nah, got it through another website. Google reveals that this is an absurdly common problem that just goes to show how ballsed up GFWL is. I've already contacted the seller's support email for another code.


Bcw81 and I have been playing Wargame pretty heavily for the past day and it's a solid game. Definitely a unique take on the RTS genre with some intense multiplayer.

I find Wargame to be pretty similar to Endwar, though, it's still pretty damn fun. Blowing away them damn Commies with helicopters is the best.

It's also hilarious to watch him bitch about GFWL.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on August 20, 2012, 09:17:05 PM
Four more days till GW2.

Squee!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kieandatu on August 21, 2012, 02:02:28 AM
Four more days till GW2.

Squee!

Squee!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on August 21, 2012, 02:03:48 AM
Four more days till GW2.

Squee!

Wow, didn't realize. Nice!

SO LONG ARMAGEDDON, HAHAHA, SUCKERS!!!!!

(must have said that a hundred times in my lifetime already)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 21, 2012, 03:29:08 AM
Nah, got it through another website. Google reveals that this is an absurdly common problem that just goes to show how ballsed up GFWL is. I've already contacted the seller's support email for another code.


Bcw81 and I have been playing Wargame pretty heavily for the past day and it's a solid game. Definitely a unique take on the RTS genre with some intense multiplayer.

I find Wargame to be pretty similar to Endwar, though, it's still pretty damn fun. Blowing away them damn Commies with helicopters is the best.

It's also hilarious to watch him bitch about GFWL.

You keep saying that but there aren't any similarities I can think of besides the fact that it's a... well... nope, there are none. Endwar utilized a shitty rock paper scissors system in which armor beat infantry, infantry beat air, and air beat armor. Wargame goes in the opposite direction. Pretty much every class of unit has some sort of weapon that can take out every other unit class. It's how to combine your forces and coordinate attacks that determines the winner.

edit: GW2GW2GW2 MY BODY IS READY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlBvKzc8Odo
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 21, 2012, 06:06:30 AM
I was really quite looking forward to that new C&C game.  Then they made it f2p and multiplayer only.  Fucking EA.

Anyone know of any decent new or soon to be released RTS games?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 21, 2012, 08:29:41 AM
One thing with GW2 is that once you pick a server you are stuck on that server.  I know I will be on Maguuma within a particular guild of Goons >.>
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 21, 2012, 08:43:24 AM
I was really quite looking forward to that new C&C game.  Then they made it f2p and multiplayer only.  Fucking EA.

Anyone know of any decent new or soon to be released RTS games?

Heart of the Swarm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 21, 2012, 08:59:00 AM
Hm, does SC2 have a decent SP campaign then?  I'd always thought it was pretty much solely a MP thing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on August 21, 2012, 08:18:55 PM
It has a -decent- single player campaign. That's about all I'll say in favor of it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 21, 2012, 08:21:38 PM
Decent sums up my feelings as well. Gameplay is fun, story is -decent-.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 21, 2012, 10:00:23 PM
Oh, I couldn't care less about the story in most RTS games.  I meant decent as in 'provides a variety of mission types' and 'AI poses a reasonable threat without absolutely cheating'.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 22, 2012, 02:20:40 AM
Then yeah I'd call it good. Quite enjoyable. One of the best RTS campaigns I've played. Though also quite different from your standard RTS campaign.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 22, 2012, 03:54:21 AM
One thing with GW2 is that once you pick a server you are stuck on that server.  I know I will be on Maguuma within a particular guild of Goons >.>

This isn't really true at all. You can transfer between worlds at no cost when the game launches. Eventually, world transfers will cost gems, but you will be able to play your character on other worlds as a "guest" for free if you have friends on that world. You just won't be able to participate in that world's WvWvW team.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 22, 2012, 07:06:45 AM
I Fell In Love With The Majesty Of Colours (http://www.kongregate.com/games/GregoryWeir/the-majesty-of-colors)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 22, 2012, 09:01:23 AM
One thing with GW2 is that once you pick a server you are stuck on that server.  I know I will be on Maguuma within a particular guild of Goons >.>

This isn't really true at all. You can transfer between worlds at no cost when the game launches. Eventually, world transfers will cost gems, but you will be able to play your character on other worlds as a "guest" for free if you have friends on that world. You just won't be able to participate in that world's WvWvW team.

Yeah, I found that out.  The guest thing isn't in yet though and won't be at launch.  I love the feature though as I will love to be able to play with friends.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 22, 2012, 05:01:23 PM
Until the guest feature is implemented, server transfers are free for all players.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 24, 2012, 03:42:59 PM
The Dark Souls port is truly awful. One of the worst I've ever run in to.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 24, 2012, 03:56:08 PM
The Dark Souls port is truly awful. One of the worst I've ever run in to.

I've heard nothing but good things so far (well, other than the 30 fps lock, but there's a mod for that) and have been considering buying it just to help validate the whole porting it to PC thing.  What's so bad about it?

E: If it's stuttering madly in Blighttown, the console versions did that too :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 24, 2012, 05:01:47 PM
Controls are awful, and everything interface-wise is straight from the console. So when it's telling me to press X to dash, I actually have no way of knowing what "X" is without going into options and looking each one up individually. I can't find the menu button to get into options. I might have to plug in a controller to play.

Basically a bunch of small irritating things. Frame-rate lock hasn't really bugged me. And I'm still playing it, but it was hard going at first.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 24, 2012, 05:14:42 PM
That reminds me of Metal Gear: Solid. Straight console port to the PC. Unless you had a game controller linked to your PC, you were SOL.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 24, 2012, 05:51:19 PM
Do you see that as a particularly bad thing?  I know I'd expect a flight sim to play like shit without a joystick.

Some games just don't translate well to keyboard + mouse, particularly when they weren't designed with that control system in mind.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on August 24, 2012, 05:52:53 PM
Thoughts on the Dark Souls PC Port from someone with hundreds of hours on the console version.

1. The default keyboard/mouse controls are horrid and unplayable. I don't know if anyone has come up with a rebound scheme that works, but the mouse sensitivity is retarded and the button layout is unintuitive and a pain to use. I highly recommend an Xbox controller for this game.

2. It runs significantly smoother than the console version. While it's locked at 30 FPS, there are no framerate drops in areas like Blighttown that previously caused the came to slow to a crawl.

3. There's a user-created resolution fix that allows you to change the internal resolution the game renders at. I managed to crank it up to about 5300x3000 before the performance loss became unplayable. Google durante dark souls and something should come up. The game looks really nice in 1080p and while the graphics aren't fantastic, they're nice to look at. If visual fidelity is the only thing you care about in a game, Dark Souls is not for you anyway.

4. The netcode is much better. Online play in console Dark Souls relied on some shoddy networking that only worked half the time. I've never had a failed summon or invasion on the PC version.

5. No idea what the new areas are like. I haven't experienced them yet, and probably won't for some time due to IMMINENT GW2.

Overall Thoughts: I love Dark Souls and highly recommend it to anyone looked for an amazing, challenging RPG, but if you don't have a controller or don't want to buy one, do not pick up this game.

edit: I should also add that FROM made some balance changes to certain overpowered items like a ring that previously let you flip around like a fucking ninja in absurdly heavy armor.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 24, 2012, 06:23:04 PM
So just how good is GW2? From all the videos I've seen looks very much like WoW.

Does it have better art and environments than say Diablo 3?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Mook on August 24, 2012, 07:17:59 PM
GW2 seems to have better graphics than D3, but it doesn't go as polygon-crazy as a single player game would.  Let me know if anyone's playing on the Stormbluff Isle server.

I met a character in Age of Conan named 'Tektolnes,' so I'm hopeful about seeing some of you in GW2.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on August 24, 2012, 07:38:24 PM
GW2 seems to have better graphics than D3, but it doesn't go as polygon-crazy as a single player game would.  Let me know if anyone's playing on the Stormbluff Isle server.

I met a character in Age of Conan named 'Tektolnes,' so I'm hopeful about seeing some of you in GW2.

I know that I was playing Age of Conan with Halaster, can't remember what his character's name was, though :)

Where are the list of servers available at launch?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on August 24, 2012, 07:40:05 PM
GW2 seems to have better graphics than D3, but it doesn't go as polygon-crazy as a single player game would.  Let me know if anyone's playing on the Stormbluff Isle server.

I met a character in Age of Conan named 'Tektolnes,' so I'm hopeful about seeing some of you in GW2.

I know that I was playing Age of Conan with Halaster, can't remember what his character's name was, though :)

Where are the list of servers available at launch?

Yeah. Halaster was playing Tektolnes. He was a Dark Templar.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Mook on August 24, 2012, 08:20:26 PM
Requested server list:    http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/08/guild-wars-2-server-list-and-launch-times-revealed/

Though, you don't need that list ;)  Come to Stormbluff Isle and play with my guild-o-fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on August 25, 2012, 01:28:32 AM
Is anyone playing the new WoW xpac when it comes out?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 25, 2012, 10:03:08 AM
Is anyone playing the new WoW xpac when it comes out?

Considering it only to play the new heroic dungeon, Scarlet Monastery :D

Other than that there's nothing in it I care about.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on August 26, 2012, 10:42:19 AM
I'm looking for a name of a game where players build houses (and other items) but they are built in real time.  It's a java game.  Can someone help me?  Thanks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 26, 2012, 10:51:57 AM
Probably gonna need a little more info than that :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Aernis on August 26, 2012, 11:00:48 AM
Re:  WoW - I won't be bothering with the expansion.

I had an invite from a friend to go back to WoW for a week of free play and a free level whatever not that long ago.  I logged in twice.

WoW has lost its sparkle for me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on August 26, 2012, 11:01:38 AM
Sorry, that how much I remember of this game.  I quit it pretty much after minute one.  I think it was Worms or something like that.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on August 26, 2012, 11:02:05 AM
WoW has lost its sparkle for me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 26, 2012, 11:03:46 AM
Sorry, that how much I remember of this game.  I quit it pretty much after minute one.  I think it was Worms or something like that.

It's been a while since I played Worms, but this is not the game you're looking for.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on August 26, 2012, 11:04:42 AM
Worms as in the turn based shooter one?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 26, 2012, 11:11:48 AM
http://www.wurmonline.com/

There you go.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on August 26, 2012, 11:17:21 AM
Yup, that is the game!  Thanks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 26, 2012, 03:38:10 PM
That horrible moment when you're on the way to reclaim 80,000 souls and 16 humanity and a black phantom invades.  In Blighttown :(

I'm just gonna curl up in a ball and weep for a bit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 26, 2012, 04:26:29 PM
I stopped playing Dark Souls after blight town... such a badly designed mess :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: AmandaGreathouse on August 26, 2012, 07:58:35 PM
finally got the dawnguard add-on for skyrim.

best elder scrolls add on yet, but that might just be because I'm a huge fan of the subject matter. :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on August 26, 2012, 08:04:52 PM
Speaking of Skyrim, my female adventurer died to a sync kill that I can only describe as "being held in place with a great axe and pelvic-thrusted to death." Dafuq, Skyrim?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 27, 2012, 04:28:39 PM
http://www.gaslampgames.com/2012/08/27/clockwork-empires-the-press-release/
http://www.pcgamer.com/previews/clockwork-empires-a-preview-of-gaslamp-games-lovecraft-laden-steampunk-city-builder/

Dwarfy steampunk colonial simulator with mechanics, hints of Lovecraft, optional multiplayer and economic warfare from the developers of Dredmor.  It's like they're taking all my favourite things and mashing them up into a game.

(http://www.gaslampgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/immigration-colony-poster3-448x655.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 28, 2012, 01:08:57 PM
Episode 3 of the walking dead is out this week on PC, PS3, and Xbox.

Supposed to be on PSN today but I don't see it :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on August 28, 2012, 02:31:20 PM
That horrible moment when you're on the way to reclaim 80,000 souls and 16 humanity and a black phantom invades.  In Blighttown :(

I'm just gonna curl up in a ball and weep for a bit.

Welcome to Dark Souls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3d94pxVRQU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3d94pxVRQU)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdcKGWmZMs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdcKGWmZMs)

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on August 28, 2012, 02:37:51 PM
stuff and shit

Speaking of which - The Walking Dead is on sale on Steam right now. If you like adventure games or interactive fiction, it's a reaaaaaaaally good pick up. Twiddling my thumbs and waiting for the third episode to pop up in my downloads.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on August 29, 2012, 08:32:19 AM
I've never really been a fan of the Crysis series at all, haven't even played any of them at all, then I saw this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VGuB4obnAE

 :o
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on August 29, 2012, 01:45:50 PM
Replaying the Hitman series, to be ready for Absolution. I forgot how impossibly jumpy the AI in that game is.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 29, 2012, 05:51:29 PM
Replaying the Hitman series, to be ready for Absolution. I forgot how impossibly jumpy the AI in that game is.

Less jumpy than Skyrim, and much less jumpy than Oblivion where LOOKING at a locked door earns you verbal abuse haha.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on August 29, 2012, 06:34:54 PM
In hitman you can be disguised from head to toe in enemy's uniform and they'd still open fire at you from 50 meters. And I have to pass through a narrow corridor with three of them.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Rhyden on August 29, 2012, 06:40:57 PM
Replaying the Hitman series, to be ready for Absolution. I forgot how impossibly jumpy the AI in that game is.

Same here dude, but mostly Blood Money.

Less jumpy than Skyrim, and much less jumpy than Oblivion where LOOKING at a locked door earns you verbal abuse haha.

Agreed. It's a pretty smooth game compared to many others. I've always found the Hitman & Splinter Cell series similar in this regard.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barsook on August 30, 2012, 08:05:36 PM
The newest version of SuperTuxKart is super fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on August 31, 2012, 02:33:19 AM
I stopped playing Dark Souls after blight town... such a badly designed mess :)


For what it was supposed to be, a confusing and stressful experience, it was a fantastically designed section.  Why do you think the main enemies have their own unblockable attack in such tight quarters?

But if you think that was bad, Tomb of the Giants would have you hating the game forever. Almost the opposite insofar as instead of a confusing mess, it's a very straight, narrow path.  But it's pitch black and there are terrible, terrible things waiting to kill you in the dark.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 31, 2012, 09:07:55 AM
Tomb of the Giants

I absolutely love doing invasions in that place.  It's got to the point where I can navigate it pretty much solely by muscle memory, whereas everyone else has always got that lantern out in place of a shield.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on August 31, 2012, 03:46:44 PM
Can anyone help me with Dark Souls? I find myself unable to play in the very first room (the cell) because of... I don't know what it is. A bug?

Basically, I can't loot the zombie corpse the game tells me to loot. The enter key works fine to navigate the menus, but I can't for the life of me loot that corpse. I stand over it, beside it, just to the left or right of it... no matter where I am, nothing happens when I hit enter and the little window keeps prompting me to loot the corpse.

AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!111!!

Any help? Is this a bug?

EDIT: Nevermind, did some more online research and figured out that apparently it's the "Q" key to loot. Couldn't they properly translate the keys for PC users?  :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on August 31, 2012, 04:33:59 PM
I still haven't got the slightest clue how to cast spells, though. Is there a manual?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 31, 2012, 04:39:11 PM
I still haven't got the slightest clue how to cast spells, though. Is there a manual?

When you are at a camp fire you can select which spells to learn. Then equip your focus (I think that's what it's called), and select the spell by changing the top icon (on PS3 it's up arrow). Then just attack with your focus and the spell is cast.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 31, 2012, 05:06:27 PM
Akaramu, you seriously need to get an xbox controller or something to play DS.  It's a straight up console port by a team that has never worked on PC before.  I honestly can't think of any layout that would make it possible to play this comfortably on keyboard + mouse.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on August 31, 2012, 05:15:35 PM
Akaramu, you seriously need to get an xbox controller or something to play DS.  It's a straight up console port by a team that has never worked on PC before.  I honestly can't think of any layout that would make it possible to play this comfortably on keyboard + mouse.

I wish someone told me this before buying the game  :'(

Maybe I can somehow get used to it. I played the FF games on PC with a keyboard, as well, and they were about equally painful.

Assuming I did buy a controller, how would I switch between controller and keyboard input?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on August 31, 2012, 05:22:50 PM
I wouldn't recommend it at all, this is a lot more twitchy than any FF game and even if you can somehow manage to beat most of the game this way you'll get utterly destroyed in PvP.  The devs actually posted somewhere that a pad was virtually essential prior to release.

And um, you just plug it into a USB port and play.  You may have to jump through a few extra hoops if it isn't a 360 controller though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on August 31, 2012, 05:32:02 PM
EDIT: Nevermind, did some more online research and figured out that apparently it's the "Q" key to loot. Couldn't they properly translate the keys for PC users?  :-\

I'll just strongly suggest you look over the key settings in the menu.  It's what I always did when I first got a game as a kid, and to this day, I tend to find little bits that most people miss.

Also, take a look a this video (http://youtu.be/Qmz1gf3VTaQ) if you're having trouble.  This guy has developed a bit of a following by providing informative, fun videos.  You'll learn a bit, especially if you look through his instructional videos.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on August 31, 2012, 08:11:01 PM
Epicnamebro was around when the Dark Souls was first released. He's a Dark Souls addict.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 01, 2012, 02:00:17 AM
I looked over the key bindings in the menu, but stuff like 'rolling attack' and 'kicking' and 'plunge attack' is only explained in ingame tutorial messages - with XBox controls. Might go buy an Xbox controller today, along with Guild Wars 2, to celebrate my 6 days of freedom from work.  8) But if the PvP turns out to be annoying I'll just play offline mode.

Supposedly playing in Covenant of the White (I started with it as a cleric) protects from PvP to a degree, as well.


Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on September 01, 2012, 03:04:38 AM
PvP is annoying, but generally because you're not prepared for it.  It's not a big deal, though.  Hell, there's a few scripted NPC invasions I try to grab every time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 01, 2012, 09:30:55 AM
And I just bought a cyborg rumble pad and... it's not working. Whenever I plug it in, my character starts running left and nothing convinces her to stop. The directional commands of the pad don't react, though the other buttons work. What the hell?  :-\

It auto-updated the drivers, so that shouldn't be the issue...

I believe I'll be grey-haired long before I finish the game. It's much harder to properly control it than it is to beat the bosses.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 01, 2012, 09:36:03 AM
Heh, I did recommend you get an actual 360 pad.

A quick google search came up with a few people who managed to get that pad working by using this (http://code.google.com/p/x360ce/) controller emulator, but if that doesn't work then I haven't got a clue.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 01, 2012, 09:39:46 AM
I'm no tinkerer, I have no idea how to get actual console pads to work with a PC.  :( My computer knowledge is very limited.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 01, 2012, 09:45:25 AM
There are some step by step instructions over here (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2905291).  I'd offer to troubleshoot for you if you have any issues after this, but without a PC copy of the game and one of those pads it isn't really possible.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 01, 2012, 09:52:58 AM
It does the same thing with X3, I'm starting to think it's a faulty cyborg module (the part of the pad that has the L-analog stick and the directional pad on it). It's supposedly possible to remove and turn it, so the analog stick / directional pad is up or down, whichever way feels more comfortable. But the module appears to be stuck and cannot be removed. And yeah, it keeps firing in the left direction without being prompted to do so. Yay. I suppose I'll take it to the store on monday and play GW2 until then.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 01, 2012, 10:14:35 AM
It would do.  Most modern PC games use xinput, whereas it appears that pad uses directinput so it isn't surprising things are going a bit weird.  Just try an emulator first and see if that fixes your issue.  I just tried it with Motionjoy on the missus' PC and that fixed the issue in under a minute :)

Full instructions here (http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2900179).
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 01, 2012, 11:02:57 AM
I looked over the key bindings in the menu, but stuff like 'rolling attack' and 'kicking' and 'plunge attack' is only explained in ingame tutorial messages - with XBox controls. Might go buy an Xbox controller today, along with Guild Wars 2, to celebrate my 6 days of freedom from work.  8) But if the PvP turns out to be annoying I'll just play offline mode.

Supposedly playing in Covenant of the White (I started with it as a cleric) protects from PvP to a degree, as well.




You won't get invaded if you're not in human form. That's one way to avoid it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 01, 2012, 12:21:51 PM
Even when doing a test with the emulator, every button except the faulty ones mentioned react properly. I really think it's a hardware issue. Bleh. I might just keep playing with the keyboard and return this pad, hopefully I'll get my money back.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on September 01, 2012, 01:46:03 PM
Planetside 2  (http://www.curse.com/betas/planetside-2-beta-key)beta, whoo.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on September 02, 2012, 12:29:37 PM
WHERE THE FUCK IS THE DOTA 2 THREAD BRADLEY? YOU AREN'T GETTING YOUR GORRAM KEYS, MOFO.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 02, 2012, 11:02:52 PM
Resubbed, and rerolled drood. Looking forward to MOPI. Do we need a MOPI thread?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on September 04, 2012, 03:28:37 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/77/Borderlands2boxart3.jpg)

link goes to the newest trailer from gearbox...pretty funny. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nicvyhrmTDs)

(yes I preordered it)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: AdamBlue on September 04, 2012, 10:34:34 PM
I just beat Professor Layton and the Unwound Future.

The ending made me cry.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 05, 2012, 05:09:29 AM
This looks really interesting, very Armageddon-esque: http://www.lofigames.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=66 (http://www.lofigames.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=66)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 05, 2012, 09:31:24 AM
This looks really interesting, very Armageddon-esque: http://www.lofigames.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=66 (http://www.lofigames.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=46&Itemid=66)

You can try a demo off Desura. Once you do that it won't be so interesting. You'll realize it's another crazy person releasing broken software with big promises.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 05, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
It's another crazy person taking on a crazy challenge.  There's a lot of potential in Kenshi and while I think he's in with a fair chance of making this a great game in time, there is a possibility he won't.  It's definitely good for a few hours of play at present.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 06, 2012, 12:40:16 AM
I got quickly bored with it. Love the concept, but it's not very complete yet. If the guy is willing to work on it I'd throw him $10 to galvanize him.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on September 06, 2012, 09:16:22 AM
Anyone interested in the PlanetSide 2 Beta?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: AdamBlue on September 08, 2012, 11:25:07 AM
Man. I need to stop playing Dark Souls. It makes me mad.

Darkroot covenant is dumb. So dumb. Level 25 guy with a Balder Side Sword against a level 200 wreckmaster and his buddy, butt-blaster? Naw. NAW.

Oh well, it's like, my eighth character.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 08, 2012, 06:47:59 PM
Anyone interested in the PlanetSide 2 Beta?

I don't know if we are allowed to specify whether or not we're in the beta yet so I won't tell you whether I am or not  ;), but based on the current state of the game, they are going to have to put in some serious overtime to get it ready for their targeted December release.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Large Hero on September 08, 2012, 09:10:58 PM
Man. I need to stop playing Dark Souls. It makes me mad.

Darkroot covenant is dumb. So dumb. Level 25 guy with a Balder Side Sword against a level 200 wreckmaster and his buddy, butt-blaster? Naw. NAW.

Oh well, it's like, my eighth character.

Try a lightning mirdan hammer in PVP, bra. Practically every hit with a mirdan hammer reels the enemy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on September 08, 2012, 10:10:14 PM
Anyone interested in the PlanetSide 2 Beta?

I don't know if we are allowed to specify whether or not we're in the beta yet so I won't tell you whether I am or not  ;), but based on the current state of the game, they are going to have to put in some serious overtime to get it ready for their targeted December release.

NDA got dropped a couple weeks ago.

I'm playing on US East 2. TR!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 10, 2012, 06:18:28 AM
Anyone interested in the PlanetSide 2 Beta?

I don't know if we are allowed to specify whether or not we're in the beta yet so I won't tell you whether I am or not  ;), but based on the current state of the game, they are going to have to put in some serious overtime to get it ready for their targeted December release.

NDA got dropped a couple weeks ago.

I'm playing on US East 2. TR!

Unity beyond death.

I haven't played in a week or two. Did they ever get around to adding the other continents like Smedley, Lord of Lies said they would?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on September 10, 2012, 09:04:33 AM
Man. I need to stop playing Dark Souls. It makes me mad.

Darkroot covenant is dumb. So dumb. Level 25 guy with a Balder Side Sword against a level 200 wreckmaster and his buddy, butt-blaster? Naw. NAW.

Oh well, it's like, my eighth character.

That's kinda the point.  Besides, if you were looking to be PvP effective at level 25... what?

You only need to kill a few people to get the Cat Covenant goodies, anyhow.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 10, 2012, 05:34:30 PM
ftlgame.com should be up on steam and GoG.com soon. My impressions from beta are that while its unique and fun, its challenging and not balanced very well. It suffers from being TOO random in terms of drops.

Protip get a teleporter and two mantis crew members. Then BOARD and make sure the enemy ship doesn't explode or runaway with your away team on. Killing all crew members gets you more loot because the ship stays in tact.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Booya on September 11, 2012, 05:43:32 AM
Help please?! Do you think I should I get my husband Black Ops or MW3? It will be for the PS3.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 11, 2012, 05:52:46 AM
Help please?! Do you think I should I get my husband Black Ops or MW3? It will be for the PS3.



Modern Warfare 3 is the newer release, but an obligatory Please Don't Support Activision is necessary.

If you have time to spare, I think Black Ops 2 comes out soon.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Booya on September 11, 2012, 05:59:36 AM
Are there any better war games like that instead? He'll probably be playing mostly single player, at least for a while.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 11, 2012, 06:03:54 AM
If your husband is a casual gamer, Black Ops or Modern Warfare 3 single player are probably your best bet, sadly.

Battlefield 3 is another option, although the single player won't last very long.

If you want something a little deeper, Spec Ops: The Line supposedly offers a more thoughtful/intelligent plot in it's single player campaign.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on September 11, 2012, 10:40:28 AM
I'm not ashamed to say that I really like the Call of Duty franchise and that I buy every single games that come out when it does  :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 11, 2012, 12:41:16 PM
It's all just WARFACE if you ask me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Booya on September 11, 2012, 12:48:43 PM
I know, me too. But it means he's pleasantly distracted while i'm playing Arm!  :D

Edit: Presuming WARFACE means what it obviously does? Anyway.

Edit again: Ok I fail at gamer geekiness  :-[
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 11, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
I know, me too. But it means he's pleasantly distracted while i'm playing Arm!  :D

Edit: Presuming WARFACE means what it obviously does? Anyway.

Edit again: Ok I fail at gamer geekiness  :-[

It means what it obviously does, as well as being a terribly named game :P

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/06/05/warface-warface/

It might be worth having a look at ArmA if he's into WARFACE military shooter games.  I've never played it, but apparently it's rather good for what it is.

Also, To The Moon is now out on Steam.  Y'all better play it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 12, 2012, 04:35:25 AM
Well, Kenshi got Greenlit by Steam, so expect the game to actually be followed through with. It's obviously got enough of a fanbase to warrant it votes. I'll be keeping an eye on the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 12, 2012, 11:23:41 AM
King of Dragon Pass kept me awake pretty much all night.  Can't believe it took me 13 years to boot it up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 12, 2012, 11:27:17 AM
King of Dragon Pass kept me awake pretty much all night.  Can't believe it took me 13 years to boot it up.

http://kingofdragonpass.blogspot.ca/

I love that game. If they never release an android port I will be in danger of getting it on the iPad just to "touch" the beautiful art.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 12, 2012, 11:32:53 PM
King of Dragon Pass kept me awake pretty much all night.  Can't believe it took me 13 years to boot it up.
KodP is a fantastic game and I play the shit out of the iPhone version.

Something about it is just so damn addicting.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 14, 2012, 11:53:57 AM
Does anyone know if there's a full screen patch/mod for PC?  I'm absolutely loving it so far, but it gets a little squinty at times.

Also, FTL hits Steam in just over an hour.  I'm back to staring at a clock again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 14, 2012, 12:04:35 PM
Does anyone know if there's a full screen patch/mod for PC?  I'm absolutely loving it so far, but it gets a little squinty at times.

The PC version is stuck at that resolution. I would lower the resolution of your desktop ... it's the only way around it. The PC version has more "knobs" and a tula screen along with about a dozen fewer scenes from what David Dunham said on the blog. It's the only version I've played.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 15, 2012, 12:33:47 AM
FTL is officially released and on sale for $9. It is DRM-free and works multi-platform. I bought it. Worth every cent.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 15, 2012, 02:53:00 AM
I found the FTL trailer very confusing, I couldn't even begin to grasp the game mechanics based on the video. Maybe I'm getting old. Already.  :-[
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 15, 2012, 09:00:38 AM
I found the FTL trailer very confusing, I couldn't even begin to grasp the game mechanics based on the video. Maybe I'm getting old. Already.  :-[


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIHuG4Qgbxc

A gameplay video -- this is pre beta.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 15, 2012, 08:15:20 PM
Those goddamn mantis boarders. Now I know why staff don't allow people to play them.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 15, 2012, 09:56:18 PM
Those goddamn mantis boarders. Now I know why staff don't allow people to play them.

In an early beta version if you opened up doors to outer space you could -suck- people out. They removed that quickly though since it was OP.

For mantis, I usually send 2 people after them back and forth to the med center, until they either port back or are in the med center fighting while my defenders are being healed.

This is a well done game that's WAAAAY too random. I emailed them about this and they said it's part of the design.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 15, 2012, 10:06:01 PM
The game is fun, but it doesn't seem to be much based on skill whether you win or lose. So vry typical of a rouge-like in that way. I've been playing a lot all day though, only gotten to the boss once.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on September 16, 2012, 02:37:49 AM
Yeah, I agree, it's just too random for me.. You try to follow some tips but unless you get lucky, there's no way you can plan ahead some sort of strategy..
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 16, 2012, 04:50:40 AM
Losing Is Fun: Jumping out of a plasma storm with 2 hull points left, into another plasma storm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 16, 2012, 09:28:23 AM
I've definitely gotten better at the game since I started playing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 16, 2012, 01:37:57 PM
My problem seems to always be with boarders or fires. Or that mix of boarders, solar flares, and a 3-shield mantis ship.

I should utilize pause more.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 16, 2012, 11:51:12 PM
@RGS: My first upgrade is always blast doors. I also keep every non-essential room a vacuum, so those pesky-ass boarders die of asphyxiation trying to batter down my doors.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 16, 2012, 11:52:18 PM
Also, a tip to everyone: don't rush for the exit. Stay out of the rebel fleet line's advance, but explore a sector as much as you can. Every subsequent sector gives you tougher enemies.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on September 17, 2012, 10:34:42 AM
You really have to be stingy with how you play and work towards a strategy.  I found myself with boarders sending everything I got, but typically boarders don't come in till later area and if you can avoid mantis areas you can get away from most boarders.  Upgraded doors really help and if you have bombs, you can bomb yourself with a firebomb to take out pesky boarders.  Also the Engi ship, which you will likely unlock first, is a great ship to defend against boarders as it comes with a upgrade that will heal your guys throughout the ship like the medbay, but at a reduced rate.  There is some skill in choosing when to fight and when to run.  That is what this game is all about, making the right decisions.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on September 17, 2012, 11:22:24 AM
I tried FTL last night.  It's delightfully hectic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 17, 2012, 01:29:20 PM
I set up Winamp to play through Planetside 2's proximity voice system.

Now, when I make Galaxy drops, it's to the tune of Fortunate Son and Klendathu Drop.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 17, 2012, 04:43:01 PM
lordcooper, how do you like Fallen Enchantress beta?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on September 18, 2012, 12:31:38 AM
Got to sector 7 in FTL, but suddenly my ship was brutally out-classed.  Other ships were running 3 shields, 3-4 weapons simultaneously, and 1-2 drones.  My Kestrel simply couldn't compete.  Maybe I need to go back and beat the game in easy mode to unlock better ships.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on September 18, 2012, 06:44:14 AM
Holyfuckingshitwhatisthisgame.

To The Moon needs to not force me to play it for five hours straight, beating it in one continuous play-through.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 18, 2012, 11:48:54 AM
lordcooper, how do you like Fallen Enchantress beta?

The art style is pretty beautiful, but it has many of the same issues it's predecessor had.  There's no sense of pacing, a lot of the spells are pretty pointless, population seems to do nothing, and the city placement mechanics are bizarre.  Your heroes will quickly get to the point where they render traditional armies obsolete and monsters ignore you until they all suddenly attack for no apparent reason.  The tactical battle system has a lot more variety than E:WoM, but gets really samey after a while.  On the other hand, diplomacy is pretty intelligent and seems a lot more reasonable than in many 4x games.

It might become something great in time, but I can't recommend it at present.

Holyfuckingshitwhatisthisgame.

To The Moon needs to not force me to play it for five hours straight, beating it in one continuous play-through.

Finally!  More Armers need to experience this gem.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Schrodingers Cat on September 18, 2012, 11:56:41 AM
Would a trucker MMO (in the spirit of Smokey and the Bandit) be a complete failure?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 18, 2012, 12:03:40 PM
I'm going to play To The Moon!


Eventually...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on September 19, 2012, 09:48:01 PM
I firebombed all the major systems. 

I disabled the rest with boarders.

Then you make it twice as hard by switching the mothership to AI.

I hate you, FTL.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on September 21, 2012, 03:07:26 PM
Ohgod. Dark Souls needs to go die in hell. The first fucking level (past the tutorial level) should never be this hard.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 21, 2012, 03:08:38 PM
Ohgod. Dark Souls needs to go die in hell. The first fucking level (past the tutorial level) should never be this hard.

You could always try one of the other 'first' levels :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 21, 2012, 03:41:28 PM
Ohgod. Dark Souls needs to go die in hell. The first fucking level (past the tutorial level) should never be this hard.

IF you're playing on computer get a controller.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: thatkid on September 21, 2012, 04:04:57 PM
Ohgod. Dark Souls needs to go die in hell. The first fucking level (past the tutorial level) should never be this hard.
It's even more difficult when your screen isn't HD, so you can't read any of the text >_>
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on September 21, 2012, 04:31:14 PM
Ohgod. Dark Souls needs to go die in hell. The first fucking level (past the tutorial level) should never be this hard.

IF you're playing on computer get a controller.
Have a controller.

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It's even more difficult when your screen isn't HD, so you can't read any of the text >_>
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You could always try one of the other 'first' levels
Wat.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kaineus on September 21, 2012, 04:41:15 PM
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You could always try one of the other 'first' levels
Wat.

A FAQ would explain this better, but as far as I know you have three options for your first level.

Orient yourself so that you are in front of the first campfire facing the cleric guy. If you go towards the cleric guy and go on to the level behind him, you're in skeleton-land--don't go here first unless you're a cleric.

If you go directly behind you and down the elevator, you have two options. [1] You can go all they way down and down that board walkway, but the ghosts will kill you--this is a very high level area that you need to be ready for. You pick up these talismans near that level that allow your melee attacks to hurt the ghosts, but don't use those items--save them and this level for when you're strong enough. [2] after getting off the elevator you can go left up some other stairs. If you are the thief class or you started out with a master key right away, you can go to this area, which has dragons that will kill you but a lot of great items and some other mobs that you will probably be able to kill.

Again, pretending you are at the campfire and looking at the priest, you have one last level that you can go to, that is definitely the easiest. Go right: this leads you to a level called "the undead burg" which has easy monsters that most starting characters can kill in 3-4 hits. Also, you'll encounter a dragon there eventually when you get to this big bridge. If you shoot the dragon's tail a bunch of times its stinger falls off and gives you this sword weapon that makes the entire game a cake walk.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 21, 2012, 08:08:56 PM
You pretty much have to go through Undead Burg up to the Chapel to begin with don't you?

It's been a while.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on September 21, 2012, 08:35:04 PM
i'm thinking about buying d.souls for the pc just to record a playthrough and post it for your amusements
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on September 22, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
i'm thinking about buying d.souls for the pc just to record a playthrough and post it for your amusements

We will drink mightily of your tears.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 22, 2012, 05:05:14 PM
Dark Souls isn't that hard if you're patient. You have to do a lot of soul farming, though, and keep running to a campfire to level up. Then it will be easier. But takes patience.

I'm still waiting for a pad that is actually working, too busy with GW2 to worry about it, though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 22, 2012, 05:31:51 PM
Just started Playing Mount & Blade: Warband.  It's pretty awesome, but removing the damage resistance bonuses makes my character have to live like a pauper.  Any tips or suggestions for brilliant mods?  Bonus points if they're fantasy based.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 22, 2012, 06:06:13 PM
The Floris mod pack is probably your best bet, if I'm remembering correctly.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 22, 2012, 08:33:40 PM
Just started Playing Mount & Blade: Warband.  It's pretty awesome, but removing the damage resistance bonuses makes my character have to live like a pauper.  Any tips or suggestions for brilliant mods?  Bonus points if they're fantasy based.

Do you mean the 1/4 damage taken option for your main character? That's why I quit playing. It's great when you're playing in an unrealistic mode but the second you make your character as vulnerable as everyone else you're knocked off in the initial charge :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: th3kaiser on September 23, 2012, 01:01:39 PM
Prophecy of Pendor is a pretty good fantasy-based mod for M&B. Adds a decent amount of stuff to do into the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on September 23, 2012, 03:13:05 PM
I finally won FLT, go me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 23, 2012, 05:00:08 PM
I heard there is also a Game of Thrones mod for Mount & Blade? Has anyone tested it?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on September 23, 2012, 05:13:24 PM
I heard there is also a Game of Thrones mod for Mount & Blade? Has anyone tested it?

It's a mod for M&B - it's not tested
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 23, 2012, 09:50:53 PM
UI insanity. I'm using the next 24 hours to relearn WoW tanking with my warrior since I haven't touched her in a year.

Still tweaking the UI. Too much info on the screen at once right now:

(http://i.imgur.com/Ghhq2.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 24, 2012, 02:00:52 PM
Looks like Dragon's Dogma online:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TNtB5DoJ6OI#!

It's not though but still interesting. Supposed to be out mid next year.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on September 24, 2012, 03:06:08 PM
I bought ftl.  I spent a good portion of my day zipping about space.  Only made it to the boss once, but I've unlocked 3 ships and having a blast being blasted into pieces with the stealth cruiser.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 24, 2012, 04:20:53 PM
Still haven't been able to beat that damn game. I must be bad or something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 24, 2012, 04:52:23 PM
Still haven't been able to beat that damn game. I must be bad or something.

No just mostly luck. Eventually you'll get a run where weapons are dropping left and right and you'll just blaze through it.

They dropped the ball on balancing it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on September 24, 2012, 06:43:12 PM
They didn't drop the ball, they outright didn't try to balance it. It's a roguelike.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 25, 2012, 12:41:20 AM
I recorded a bunch of planetside 2 footage earlier only to realize it was recording in 360p with no audio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuCI-LBWhU4&feature=player_embedded

If I can figure out how to get it recording in at least 720p with audio I'll upload some actual gameplay if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 25, 2012, 12:55:31 AM
XCOM (the new one (no, not the fps)) has a demo on Steam now.  Just thought that may be of interest to a few people here.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on September 25, 2012, 01:50:31 AM
Still haven't been able to beat that damn game. I must be bad or something.
No, it's just really hard/random.

Also, the starting ship (type A at least) just kinda sucks.  The only run I beat it was with the Torus.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on September 25, 2012, 03:15:58 AM
Anyone still playing Dark Souls on the PC? Just started NG+ at level 80. Looking forward to hitting 120 so I can get in on the arena pvp action.

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/1136288549552469035/06AAB683D9A7E537095E7F3402E836CB90A7B9D9/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on September 25, 2012, 10:32:00 PM
It's Jumpin' Jack Flash!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on September 26, 2012, 07:42:15 AM
(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/937004602492462082/9E89203440C5C72475653930E56C643ED1D7E183/)

Crossbows 4 lyfe
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on September 26, 2012, 09:04:10 AM
XCOM (the new one (no, not the fps)) has a demo on Steam now.  Just thought that may be of interest to a few people here.

Played the demo last night, I'm glad I pre-ordered.  It was a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 26, 2012, 11:05:24 AM
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/26/introversion-unveil-prison-architects-alpha-launch

Finally!  Do yourself a favour and grab a copy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 26, 2012, 12:54:19 PM
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/26/introversion-unveil-prison-architects-alpha-launch

Finally!  Do yourself a favour and grab a copy.

A little pricey for an alpha :( It's $30
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 26, 2012, 02:45:51 PM
Can't argue with that.  The company has a pretty great track record and I've been playing it without pause since my last post, so make of that what you will.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 26, 2012, 03:00:05 PM
X-Com demo looks amazing. I'm preordering off Steam.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on September 26, 2012, 05:50:04 PM
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/26/introversion-unveil-prison-architects-alpha-launch

Finally!  Do yourself a favour and grab a copy.

A little pricey for an alpha :( It's $30


Game doesn't look worth it for $30.  Maybe $10-20, but Torchlight 2 at $20 makes me really rethink a lot of game prices now these days.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 28, 2012, 10:14:06 AM
www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/26/introversion-unveil-prison-architects-alpha-launch

Finally!  Do yourself a favour and grab a copy.

A little pricey for an alpha :( It's $30


Game doesn't look worth it for $30.  Maybe $10-20, but Torchlight 2 at $20 makes me really rethink a lot of game prices now these days.

I still think of £40 as being the base price for a game.  Not sure if I'm keen on the massive devaluation that's been happening for the last couple of years.

Also, could someone tell me which of the new generation of mech games is looking best?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on September 28, 2012, 12:33:53 PM
I could, if I wasn't about to sign an NDA for Hawken.  :(

A friend playing Mech Warrior has had nothing but complaints.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 28, 2012, 01:50:14 PM
M&B II announced.

Check out the Taleworlds website for info if you are interested.

Love the combat mechanics in this game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 28, 2012, 03:53:55 PM
Looking forward to hearing more about M&B 2.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/09/25/some-things-you-should-know-about-the-xcom-demo/

So the x-com demo isn't representative of the awesomeness the final game is. This may actually make me stop playing WoW for a good while. It's looking AMAZING.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on September 28, 2012, 04:13:55 PM
Aside from the tutorial mission, I beat the XCOM demo without losing a single hitpoint.  Fortunately, I found out that indeed that mission is an easy early-game challenge on easy mode.

Pre-ordered on Steam already.  However, mad that it comes out the day AFTER a 3-day weekend.   >:(


BTW, anyone else going to jump into normal difficulty with Iron Man mode?  (No re-loading saves, basically perma-death.)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on September 28, 2012, 05:27:25 PM
I haven't decided how I'm going to play yet, maybe my first play-through will be on normal with replay on.  Then go into Classic with Iron Man like true X-Com.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 28, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Can anyone point me to a forum where I can trade my Civ V gift for other games on Steam from other players?

This is the first time I can trade gifts and am not sure how to do it.

EDIT: nvm, I found tf2outpost
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on September 28, 2012, 10:45:25 PM
I missed Solaire of Astora and now I don't have the white summon stone and can't visit other players. :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on September 29, 2012, 01:33:05 AM
I caved and bought Torchlight 2... I have way too many games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 29, 2012, 03:08:03 AM
I've checked out Entropia Universe - the space MMO where ingame currency can be exchanged for real dollars and vice versa. Unfortunately it is suffering from a lack of players, and many veterans leaving due to some rather unpopular changes to make the developers more money (at the expense of player fun). I can't afford to do kill quests because ammo costs too much (maybe one reason why 90% of new players quit), but with mining I only lose very little money over time, and it's strangely addictive. Even more so due to the small chance to hit a node worth 5-12'000 real dollars. XD
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on September 29, 2012, 08:06:36 AM
...but with mining I only lose very little money over time, and it's strangely addictive. Even more so due to the small chance to hit a node worth 5-12'000 real dollars. XD


Sounds like a slot machine :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on September 29, 2012, 02:51:39 PM
...but with mining I only lose very little money over time, and it's strangely addictive. Even more so due to the small chance to hit a node worth 5-12'000 real dollars. XD


Sounds like a slot machine :)


Kind of, but I do enough trading on the side (one of the few certain methods of income) that I end up not spending anything overall. So think of a FREE slot machine.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on September 30, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
First Draft of the Revolution (http://lizadaly.com/first-draft/content/content/index.html) is a pretty cool waste of 10-15 minutes and a concept I've never seen before.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 01, 2012, 09:15:12 PM
Anyone know if War of the Roses is any good?

I've heard mixed things about it but if it plays like it's supposed to I could see it being a really fun distraction until M&BII comes out.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 02, 2012, 12:39:56 AM
Now much would you guys say Dragon's Dogma is worth?

I figure I'll get it, Dishonoured, Mass Effect 3, or Assassin's Creed 3 when I get a new game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 02, 2012, 02:19:08 AM
I think $40 is a fair price for Dragon's Dogma. It's a fun game but it's not without flaws and some people don't seem to like it at all.

Mass Effect 3 is pretty disappointing, in my opinion. Dishonored looks fantastic though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WWYD on October 02, 2012, 02:30:24 AM
Anyone know if War of the Roses is any good?

I've heard mixed things about it but if it plays like it's supposed to I could see it being a really fun distraction until M&BII comes out.

It's definitely not worth $30. You're basically paying for cRPG with more purdies and some Call of Duty inspiration. If that's worth your money, though, go for it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 02, 2012, 07:59:37 AM
Anyone know if War of the Roses is any good?

I've heard mixed things about it but if it plays like it's supposed to I could see it being a really fun distraction until M&BII comes out.

It's not bad, but I'm more drawn to Chivalry.  Here's (http://www.gamersnexus.net/pax/816-chivalry-vs-war-of-the-roses-pax12 is a pretty apt summary) a nice comparison of the two.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: ghostymudy on October 02, 2012, 08:18:01 AM
I've checked out Entropia Universe - the space MMO where ingame currency can be exchanged for real dollars and vice versa. Unfortunately it is suffering from a lack of players, and many veterans leaving due to some rather unpopular changes to make the developers more money (at the expense of player fun). I can't afford to do kill quests because ammo costs too much (maybe one reason why 90% of new players quit), but with mining I only lose very little money over time, and it's strangely addictive. Even more so due to the small chance to hit a node worth 5-12'000 real dollars. XD


I played that for a short while. Sweating. So much sweating. I managed to get hold of a gun and some ammo with my sweat money but that was gone very quickly and I didn't really make a profit from it so I ended up going back to sweating. I don't really think I got past the sweating stage. I can grind when I want to but licking sweat from komibibos on that bloody hill for hours straight for weeks doesn't do it for me. Needs to be more fun in the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 02, 2012, 08:40:58 AM
I've checked out Entropia Universe - the space MMO where ingame currency can be exchanged for real dollars and vice versa. Unfortunately it is suffering from a lack of players, and many veterans leaving due to some rather unpopular changes to make the developers more money (at the expense of player fun). I can't afford to do kill quests because ammo costs too much (maybe one reason why 90% of new players quit), but with mining I only lose very little money over time, and it's strangely addictive. Even more so due to the small chance to hit a node worth 5-12'000 real dollars. XD


I played that for a short while. Sweating. So much sweating. I managed to get hold of a gun and some ammo with my sweat money but that was gone very quickly and I didn't really make a profit from it so I ended up going back to sweating. I don't really think I got past the sweating stage. I can grind when I want to but licking sweat from komibibos on that bloody hill for hours straight for weeks doesn't do it for me. Needs to be more fun in the game.

http://www.entropiadirectory.com/wiki/Learning_to_sweat_while_dying

What a bizarre mechanic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 02, 2012, 08:45:34 AM
I've checked out Entropia Universe - the space MMO where ingame currency can be exchanged for real dollars and vice versa. Unfortunately it is suffering from a lack of players, and many veterans leaving due to some rather unpopular changes to make the developers more money (at the expense of player fun). I can't afford to do kill quests because ammo costs too much (maybe one reason why 90% of new players quit), but with mining I only lose very little money over time, and it's strangely addictive. Even more so due to the small chance to hit a node worth 5-12'000 real dollars. XD


I played that for a short while. Sweating. So much sweating. I managed to get hold of a gun and some ammo with my sweat money but that was gone very quickly and I didn't really make a profit from it so I ended up going back to sweating. I don't really think I got past the sweating stage. I can grind when I want to but licking sweat from komibibos on that bloody hill for hours straight for weeks doesn't do it for me. Needs to be more fun in the game.

The fun in the game is in playing clever and playing it in a way that you don't lose money, or even gain money instead. I wouldn't recommend it if you're not willing to spend at least 10 dollars to get started - it's very possible to multiply that small amount with trading, without need for sweating. There are numerous guides out there that help you learn how to not lose money - for instance, by chosing a gun that only decays very slowly at your skill level, doesn't use much ammo per shot, and by shooting things that drop items with markup value above the TT value. Most people give in to their cravings and spend a lot on shooting any random thing in sight, doing expensive quests etc. You need to keep in mind that everything coded was designed in a way to make you lose more money than you gain. It takes smarts and some research to avoid falling into the trap. Then it's so much more satisfying if the developers end up paying you instead of you paying them.  ;D

I started with 50 dollars (500 PED) 2 weeks ago and still have about as much as I started with, adding all my possessions together. I only did a little bit of sweating.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 02, 2012, 03:37:21 PM
I think I would like War of the Roses more if it didn't do things like throw random gigantic server lag spikes that ruin everything and inexplicably crash to desktop without even an error message.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Hot_Dancer on October 04, 2012, 07:03:48 PM
The gameplay on War of Roses was very rough/choppy for me. I just couldn't get that game to run smoothly through beta.

N
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 05, 2012, 12:05:58 AM
It's been running smoother ever since they did some update to the servers to resolve the lag issues.

That said, I don't think it was worth the $23 I paid for what was essentially a polished version of M&B multiplayer with fewer maps. They also still haven't fixed the issues I had in M&B where you could hit someone with a greatsword and the only indication you have that you hurt them is a sound effect. There should be visible/physical feedback that you hit them.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 05, 2012, 12:08:05 AM
Haven't heard a peep about Watch Dogs since about June. Anybody else?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 05, 2012, 11:03:47 AM
I'm not too surprised by that.  Game that isn't due to be released for another year or so gets unveiled at E3 then goes quiet.  I'd love some more info on it, but I don't think there's cause for alarm yet.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on October 05, 2012, 11:49:04 AM
For anyone who might care, Darkfall 2 is set to release on November 20th.

If you bought the original Darkfall, you will not be charged for Darkfall 2 and will only have to renew your subscription.

They are putting in some interesting changes to fix some of the fundamental problems with Darkfall 1.

Momentum will now be integrated into melee combat (no more sprint-fest melee battles), wobble on archery/missile weapons while moving (no more sprinting while shooting), and a class system, instead of everyone is the same thing. Also, new user interface and controls. (Anyone who played DF1 knows the user interface and the controls were a major pain.)

The class system is probably the best new feature.

This is one of those games you are going to want to jump into from the start or you will have a hard time catching up to other players ahead of you in the grind. The grind is going to be greatly reduced, but, still.

For anyone not familar with Darkfall, this is a FPS style RPG in an open world setting (Like Skyrim/Oblivion) with open PVP (think Armageddon, no location is safe, but some are safer than others), and full looting upon death (again think Armageddon, they kill you, they then loot your corpse).

It's interesting and a very different MMO from anything else you have probably ever experienced. Hopefully they are going to be fixing some of the key issues with DF1 as far as gameplay was concerned.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 05, 2012, 02:06:32 PM
I tried the trial of Darkfall one and ended up being jumped while mining.

I also picked a tank class and the shield mechanics were ridiculously bad (everyone seemed to walk around with 2hs). I'll look out for reviews of the reboot.

Unless it has PvE on the same scale of WoW though I don't think it will interest me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 05, 2012, 04:39:02 PM
Preloading X-Com....

Just thought I'd let the rest of you preorders know.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 05, 2012, 05:44:57 PM
For anyone who might care, Darkfall 2 is set to release on November 20th.

If you bought the original Darkfall, you will not be charged for Darkfall 2 and will only have to renew your subscription.

They are putting in some interesting changes to fix some of the fundamental problems with Darkfall 1.

Momentum will now be integrated into melee combat (no more sprint-fest melee battles), wobble on archery/missile weapons while moving (no more sprinting while shooting), and a class system, instead of everyone is the same thing. Also, new user interface and controls. (Anyone who played DF1 knows the user interface and the controls were a major pain.)

The class system is probably the best new feature.

This is one of those games you are going to want to jump into from the start or you will have a hard time catching up to other players ahead of you in the grind. The grind is going to be greatly reduced, but, still.

For anyone not familar with Darkfall, this is a FPS style RPG in an open world setting (Like Skyrim/Oblivion) with open PVP (think Armageddon, no location is safe, but some are safer than others), and full looting upon death (again think Armageddon, they kill you, they then loot your corpse).

It's interesting and a very different MMO from anything else you have probably ever experienced. Hopefully they are going to be fixing some of the key issues with DF1 as far as gameplay was concerned.

Sounds a lot like Mortal Online, which also ended up sucking.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 06, 2012, 09:39:05 PM
I think I have one Steam key each for Victoria II and Sword of the Stars Complete if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 06, 2012, 09:43:38 PM
I got a copy of Dragon's Dogma off of Ebay for about 1/2~ price than if I would have bought it at a store

:)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 06, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
Just finished Thomas Was Alone.  I'm not usually a fan of platformers, but it's an exceptionally well made game.  Tons of atmosphere and a nice dab of pathos to boot.

I think I have one Steam key each for Victoria II and Sword of the Stars Complete if anyone is interested.

Can't speak for Victoria, but SotS is a pretty cool game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 07, 2012, 12:14:44 AM
I think Victoria is like Crusader Kings except less intuitive and set during... the Victorian age.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: slipshod on October 07, 2012, 10:23:27 PM
I heard there is also a Game of Thrones mod for Mount & Blade? Has anyone tested it?

It's a mod for M&B - it's not tested

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PeNGsuAr8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3PeNGsuAr8)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 08, 2012, 04:01:57 AM
Can't decide between XCOM and Dishonored.  Life is so very hard.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on October 08, 2012, 10:47:16 AM
I heard Dishonored is very short, if that helps.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 08, 2012, 12:52:26 PM
I don't like short games unless they are also exceptionally cheap. Same as 300-page-books - I like to get more value for my money.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 08, 2012, 01:03:37 PM
you and literally everyone else who has ever bought anything.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 08, 2012, 04:27:03 PM
I heard Dishonored is very short, if that helps.

Not really, it's the kind of game I'm likely to wanna play three or four times.  Thanks for trying though!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on October 08, 2012, 04:36:11 PM
Brilliant plan!  If I sleep and/or lounge around all day today (I have the day off), I can play XCOM from midnight until when I have to go to work Tuesday!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 08, 2012, 06:44:40 PM
you and literally everyone else who has ever bought anything.

Then why do FPS games with under 10 hours reach such high sales numbers regularly?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on October 08, 2012, 07:12:03 PM
you and literally everyone else who has ever bought anything.

Then why do FPS games with under 10 hours reach such high sales numbers regularly?
Online gameplay normally adds a few hundred hours.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 08, 2012, 08:32:54 PM
Brilliant plan!  If I sleep and/or lounge around all day today (I have the day off), I can play XCOM from midnight until when I have to go to work Tuesday!

It will still be there when you get back Tuesday, from work :)

It may even have a day one patch by then.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 09, 2012, 09:53:38 AM
you and literally everyone else who has ever bought anything.

Then why do FPS games with under 10 hours reach such high sales numbers regularly?
Online gameplay normally adds a few hundred hours.

But... not all of them have working online modes!  ???
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on October 09, 2012, 11:43:43 AM
you and literally everyone else who has ever bought anything.

Then why do FPS games with under 10 hours reach such high sales numbers regularly?
Online gameplay normally adds a few hundred hours.

But... not all of them have working online modes!  ???
I can't think of a single FPS that has gotten a good following in the past five years that doesn't have an online mode.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 09, 2012, 12:26:13 PM
My favorite FPS which I couldn't put down was Rogue Trooper from years back.

I'm not sure how its multiplayer was but it never interested me in the MP department.

My second favorite FPS is Deadspace although its more of an adventure FPS. The multiplayer was non-existent.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 09, 2012, 04:17:32 PM
Dead Space is not an FPS.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 09, 2012, 05:05:19 PM
Dead Space has a space and also a sequel with multiplayer.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on October 09, 2012, 07:26:59 PM
Deadspace is not an FPS.

Wrong.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 09, 2012, 07:34:10 PM
Deadspace is not an FPS.

Wrong.

I'm not sure when the definition of "First-person Shooter" was changed to include third-person survival horror games.

Unless you're talking about the crappy on-rails cashgrab Wii game, which should never be discussed.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on October 09, 2012, 07:59:26 PM
Deadspace is not an FPS.

Wrong.

I'm not sure when the definition of "First-person Shooter" was changed to include third-person survival horror games.

Unless you're talking about the crappy on-rails cashgrab Wii game, which should never be discussed.

You know what. I was wrong.... Brain fart. :P
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on October 09, 2012, 10:57:01 PM
I'm not sure when the definition of "First-person Shooter" was changed to include third-person survival horror games.

Unless you're talking about the crappy on-rails cashgrab Wii game, which should never be discussed.

Oh, don't get on his case.  It would be an orthodox FPS if the engagement window was longer.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on October 10, 2012, 01:24:32 AM
Anyone here played Mirror's Edge? I was so bummed when they canceled the sequel, to me it was one of the greatest first person (running?) games ever.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 10, 2012, 01:55:59 AM
Absolutely adored ME.  Beyond Good and Evil 2 might scratch the itch if they ever get round to actually releasing it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on October 10, 2012, 02:28:16 AM
Absolutely adored ME.  Beyond Good and Evil 2 might scratch the itch if they ever get round to actually releasing it.

Never played beyond good and evil, I'll give it a try.

But ME... man, the game that's probably responsible for many death's from attempted parkour.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 10, 2012, 02:29:37 AM
I'm not sure when the definition of "First-person Shooter" was changed to include third-person survival horror games.

Unless you're talking about the crappy on-rails cashgrab Wii game, which should never be discussed.

Oh, don't get on his case.  It would be an orthodox FPS if the engagement window was longer.

Are you talking about the Wii game? Because Dead Space 1 and 2 are not first-person shooters in any way, shape, or form. To be a first person shooter, the game needs to be... you know... first person.



The Mirror's Edge sequel may still happen, last I heard. They said they're looking for ways to make it a "modern game" which sadly means it's going to have some online manshooting component.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 10, 2012, 09:16:51 AM
I love Arma's forums. I mistakenly call Dead Space an FPS, and 2-3 people correct me, one another person backs up, gets shot down two more times, and then just for laughs the corrections continue into pedantic ultra-nerd arguing.

Whatever, I guess I don't really play FPS games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on October 10, 2012, 12:20:56 PM
Are you talking about the Wii game? Because Dead Space 1 and 2 are not first-person shooters in any way, shape, or form. To be a first person shooter, the game needs to be... you know... first person.

I'm talking mechanically.  Dead Space plays third-person rather than first person because there is so much melee combat, which has always been a weakness with the first-person view.  The player simply doesn't have enough information on how they relate to their immediate environment.

It's still a game where you shoot things down-range, comparable to any of the modern shooters in the gunplay aspect.

Now, is it comparable to DOOM of the old days?  Not even close.  Modern design philosophy prohibits it.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on October 10, 2012, 01:54:46 PM
Are you talking about the Wii game? Because Dead Space 1 and 2 are not first-person shooters in any way, shape, or form. To be a first person shooter, the game needs to be... you know... first person.

I'm talking mechanically.  Dead Space plays third-person rather than first person because there is so much melee combat, which has always been a weakness with the first-person view.  The player simply doesn't have enough information on how they relate to their immediate environment.

It's still a game where you shoot things down-range, comparable to any of the modern shooters in the gunplay aspect.

Now, is it comparable to DOOM of the old days?  Not even close.  Modern design philosophy prohibits it.



And... That's what makes it a third person shooter? Why is this hard?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on October 10, 2012, 03:08:22 PM
And... That's what makes it a third person shooter? Why is this hard?

There is no significant difference in terms of the experience.

Forgive everyone their desecration of your own personal definition of things and get on with your life.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 10, 2012, 03:50:51 PM
But... guys... come on.

It's not a personal definition. The FPS genre is clearly defined with a widely accepted standard for what qualifies as a first-person shooter. Similarly, the third-person shooter genre is equally defined, with a widely accepted standard for what qualifies as a third-person shooter.

First-person Shooters
- Doom
- Quake
- Marathon
- Halo
- Call of Duty
- Resistance
- Killzone

Third-person Shooters
- Gears of War
- Ghost Recon Future Soldier
- Dead Space (although I would consider it third-person survival horror)
- Lost Planet
- Alan Wake
- newer Splinter Cell games

There -is- a significant difference in terms of experience, and while it might not be immediately noticeable if you aren't sure what to look for, a third-person camera significantly changes the way you play and perceive a game. There's no need for people to get rude over this, but you can't really argue that they're the same thing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 10, 2012, 05:19:53 PM
lordcooper is writing in the first person
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 10, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
It's funny, because in Dead Space you actually have to aim to slice off limbs properly :D The melee is almost non-existent.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on October 10, 2012, 07:37:35 PM
Dishonored is a lot like the Thief series.

But it feels like all that world building is a waste when the character you play never speaks. There is one other interesting character but I have to go out of my way to find him.

That said, gameplay is almost perfect for what I would want in a stealth action series. Even though I miss Garret.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on October 10, 2012, 11:00:33 PM
It's funny, because in Dead Space you actually have to aim to slice off limbs properly :D The melee is almost non-existent.

1. Melee typically describes more the range and the sort of movements required, but in this case, first person view tends to leave you less aware when things are trying to nom your brains out.  And just about everything that tries to nom your brains out does it in your face.

2.  Never used the force gun, did you?  After a few damage upgrades, nothing could even touch me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on October 11, 2012, 12:42:44 AM
Dishonored is a lot like the Thief series.

But it feels like all that world building is a waste when the character you play never speaks. There is one other interesting character but I have to go out of my way to find him.

That said, gameplay is almost perfect for what I would want in a stealth action series. Even though I miss Garret.

Tell me more. How big are the levels, etc. From what I saw, the atmosphere of the game is excellent, I just hope the game's not another assassin's creed, but a proper Thief-like.

And, yeah, Garrett and his quips were awesome. "A throne room? How pretentious can you get?"
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 11, 2012, 12:48:01 AM
My favorite line from Garret:

"So this is the Lost City... Not so lost no more!"

I LOL'd when he said that.

Although Thief 1 had a bit of a zombie and tomb problem IMHO. Thief 2 corrected much of that.

Unfortunately Ubisoft is making Thief 4 which means we'll probably be playing another game designed by focus groups.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on October 11, 2012, 01:50:58 AM
My favorite line from Garret:

"So this is the Lost City... Not so lost no more!"

I LOL'd when he said that.

Although Thief 1 had a bit of a zombie and tomb problem IMHO. Thief 2 corrected much of that.

Maybe a bit, but I really enjoyed Bonehoard and that level when you explore the sealed area of the City, forgot its name. Thief really a unique feeling of "you're not supposed to be there", unlike many other stealth games, where you can just kill shit if you wanted.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 11, 2012, 03:43:08 AM
Dishonored is a lot like the Thief series.

But it feels like all that world building is a waste when the character you play never speaks. There is one other interesting character but I have to go out of my way to find him.

That said, gameplay is almost perfect for what I would want in a stealth action series. Even though I miss Garret.

Tell me more. How big are the levels, etc. From what I saw, the atmosphere of the game is excellent, I just hope the game's not another assassin's creed, but a proper Thief-like.

And, yeah, Garrett and his quips were awesome. "A throne room? How pretentious can you get?"

The levels are pretty big, although some are more linear than others. Each level has a primary objective as well as a number of hidden bonuses and secondary objectives that can alter the outcome of the primary and stuff. The atmosphere and all the little details are awesome, and my only complaint so far is not being able to explore more of the world, because it's really intriguing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 12, 2012, 08:58:33 PM
I just checked Dishonored on metacritic and it's getting insanely rave reviews.

How long is the campaign? 8 hours? 20 hours? 40 hours?

I may wait until end of year and see if it goes on sale for xmas. Otherwise seems like a must play. Is there talk of DLC to add more content?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 12, 2012, 10:23:04 PM
How long is the campaign? 8 hours? 20 hours? 40 hours?

Yes.

You could probably rush through it in about six hours.  Or you could take your time, explore the world, find all the side missions etc and get a good 20-30 hours before restarting to play in a different way.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 13, 2012, 03:55:33 AM
I just made 20 (real life) dollars overnight by reselling an estate deed in Entropia Universe.  8) I think I'll keep playing that a good while longer... making money off the auction house worked in WoW and it works here, except I can exchange the profits into real cash.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 13, 2012, 12:22:46 PM
Is anyone willing to help a total noob get to grips with DOTA 2?  Never played one of the hyper competitive games, but I fancy giving this one a go.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on October 13, 2012, 04:14:21 PM
Is anyone willing to help a total noob get to grips with DOTA 2?  Never played one of the hyper competitive games, but I fancy giving this one a go.

Step one: Ingore everything Dota and go here.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/ (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 13, 2012, 04:17:17 PM
Actually, could someone who's played played them all give me a quick rundown of the major differences between DOTA 2, LoL and whatever the other one was called?  I seem to associate LoL with being more of a casual game, but I'm not sure where that impression came from.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on October 13, 2012, 07:41:56 PM
They're remarkably similar in concept. You control a hero/champion that levels up and gains gold by getting last hits on minions that spawn from either side of the map and meet in the middle. You spend gold on items to buff your champs stats or gain certain active/passive abilities from those items.

There are certain objectives in the games(killing baron/roshan/ pushing down towers)

You sense of casualness from LOL probably come from the massive number of people that play it(like 13 million?). DOTA 2 is in beta right now, but functions like a complete game. Both are played highly competitively. There a 2 million dollar tournament for LOL today. DOTA had one for around 1 million a few months ago I believe.

Though the games are very similar the mechanics of each game feels very different. I suggest trying them both. I prefer LOL.




OH and there's a golden rule: Play with friends.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: kayza on October 13, 2012, 08:28:10 PM
Is anyone willing to help a total noob get to grips with DOTA 2?  Never played one of the hyper competitive games, but I fancy giving this one a go.

Step one: Ingore everything Dota and go here.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/ (http://na.leagueoflegends.com/)

Yeah LoL is pretty awesome.
Too bad I suck.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 16, 2012, 01:55:52 AM
No third person view in Dishonored?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 16, 2012, 10:45:17 AM
I tried playing DOTA and didn't know what was going on and scary people shouted at me.  I do know how to buy things now though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 16, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
http://www.indieroyale.com/

It has To The Moon and as such deserves your monies.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 16, 2012, 12:31:46 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/210895

new DLC for CK2.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 16, 2012, 02:12:11 PM
http://store.steampowered.com/app/210895

new DLC for CK2.


omg YAY! Finally more options for leader improvement. I found the plots / intrigue options lacking before.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on October 17, 2012, 09:29:50 PM
Oh look another walking dead game.

em prepares for trauma.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 17, 2012, 11:57:08 PM
I felt like checking out Starcraft 2 again today, but when I tried to log into my battle.net account, it kept telling me my password was invalid.

I tried to use password recovery, only to receive an error saying the email/name combination I'm using does not exist.

Queue an hour spent digging around the support section trying to start an account recovery process, only to find out my security questions have been changed and all my CD keys come up as invalid when I try to use them to prove account ownership.

There's literally no way I can find to contact support that doesn't already require account access, which is incredibly fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 18, 2012, 12:00:09 AM
Try calling 1-800-592-5499 between 10 am and 6 pm Pacific Time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 18, 2012, 12:03:29 AM
Thanks for the number, but last time I had problems like this and tried to call Blizzard, they accused me of being a hacker trying to steal my own account.

Finally somehow managed to start the recovery process, and was told a reset email was sent to my address, but evidently it was sent to some -other- address. GG blizz no re
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 18, 2012, 02:02:03 AM
Thanks for the number, but last time I had problems like this and tried to call Blizzard, they accused me of being a hacker trying to steal my own account.

Finally somehow managed to start the recovery process, and was told a reset email was sent to my address, but evidently it was sent to some -other- address. GG blizz no re

That sucks. I feel for you. It shouldn't be possible to change the security question at all, and email only under special circumstances.

I predict that at some point in the future, game accounts will have real life verification attached to them... no more internet anonymity.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 18, 2012, 02:12:11 AM
In the past, I've had to send in drivers license pictures to get accounts recovered so... we're getting there.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 18, 2012, 08:24:55 AM


I predict that at some point in the future, game accounts will have real life verification attached to them... no more internet anonymity.

Blizzard will ask for a scan of a piece of government ID if you need to prove ownership of the account.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 18, 2012, 02:03:57 PM


I predict that at some point in the future, game accounts will have real life verification attached to them... no more internet anonymity.

Blizzard will ask for a scan of a piece of government ID if you need to prove ownership of the account.


Yes. Also, a blood sample. And some hair.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on October 18, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
How is everyone playing Dishonored liking it?

Manboog hates first person and I think it's really ruining the game for him. Thank god it's only a rental.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on October 18, 2012, 09:38:58 PM
It's a game worth renting.

Short. I'm debating playing through again. Gameplay was alright. Story was meh/alright.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 18, 2012, 10:42:04 PM
I adore the gameplay and setting, more games need to have leaning and that sliding mechanic is pretty darn sweet.  The story is mediocre but acceptable.  Level design is absolutely superb IMO.  If the AI was a little smarter and the game a little more difficult in general then I'd be in heaven.  I think it took about 25 hours for me to play through the game, so I definitely got my moneys worth.  I'd recommend those who find the game too short to have a glance at this (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/08/dishonored-length/), it says what I want to say far more eloquently than I could.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 19, 2012, 05:55:44 AM
I adore the gameplay and setting, more games need to have leaning and that sliding mechanic is pretty darn sweet.  The story is mediocre but acceptable.  Level design is absolutely superb IMO.  If the AI was a little smarter and the game a little more difficult in general then I'd be in heaven.  I think it took about 25 hours for me to play through the game, so I definitely got my moneys worth.  I'd recommend those who find the game too short to have a glance at this (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/10/08/dishonored-length/), it says what I want to say far more eloquently than I could.

The RPS article sums it up perfectly. The story wasn't anything amazing, but I'm in love with the world they created and this is one of few games that actually has me excited for DLC. From what I've heard, they plan to expand on the world by releasing additional missions from the perspective of other characters.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 19, 2012, 07:53:29 PM
Might get Dishonored once the price drops / there is enough DLC to be worth the money content wise. It's too short of a game to pay full price imho.

Some peope argue that short games are worth they money, making the comparison to the price of a cinema ticket. That's silly. Games are a low cost hobby such as watching TV. Cinemas are a luxury most people don't afford more than a few times a year. If people spent as much time with games as they did with cinema visits, all game developers would go bankrupt.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 20, 2012, 02:51:50 AM
Might get Dishonored once the price drops / there is enough DLC to be worth the money content wise. It's too short of a game to pay full price imho.

Some peope argue that short games are worth they money, making the comparison to the price of a cinema ticket. That's silly. Games are a low cost hobby such as watching TV. Cinemas are a luxury most people don't afford more than a few times a year. If people spent as much time with games as they did with cinema visits, all game developers would go bankrupt.

The vast majority of people who buy video games buy LESS than five a year, which is coincidentally about the same number of movies your average person goes to see.

There's a reason publishers keep trying to shoehorn in-app purchases and paid DLC into everything they can.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 20, 2012, 05:00:14 AM
The vast majority of people who buy video games buy LESS than five a year, which is coincidentally about the same number of movies your average person goes to see.

There's a reason publishers keep trying to shoehorn in-app purchases and paid DLC into everything they can.

But with five movies, they spend maybe (if that) ten hours per year in the cinema. If people gamed ten hours a year... that was my point.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 20, 2012, 05:12:29 AM
The vast majority of people who buy video games buy LESS than five a year

Just went through my email.  Including bundles and Kickstarter I've bought 286 (287 if donating to Toady counts) games in the last year.  That's fucking insane and has to stop.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Sephiroto on October 20, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
I've been having a ton of fun with Chivalry: Medieval Combat
Here's a video from the beta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n336fK3IvkQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n336fK3IvkQ)

The game released this week and has gotten a lot of positive press.  From the looks of it, it was a kickstarter based off of a HL-2 mod and the developers seem set on using the funds from initial sales to improve the game and add content.

It's $25 on Steam and worth every penny.  Consider picking this up if you enjoy Mount & Blade.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 20, 2012, 03:33:43 PM
Some peope argue that short games are worth they money, making the comparison to the price of a cinema ticket. That's silly. Games are a low cost hobby such as watching TV. Cinemas are a luxury most people don't afford more than a few times a year. If people spent as much time with games as they did with cinema visits, all game developers would go bankrupt.

Isn't that the other way around?

A ticket to a film at the theatre: $12-16

A new game from a big publisher: $50-$60.

I spend more money on games than I do films.

I don't have a link but I have seen stats showing higher revenue for the game industry than Hollywood.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 21, 2012, 10:20:17 AM
http://forums.elementalgame.com/433555/page/1/#replies

Lordcooper, is it worth buying at this point? There are a lot of posts saying its good but still needs work.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 21, 2012, 10:46:45 AM
Didn't play the last beta release.  I'll have a bash tonight and get back to you :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marc on October 21, 2012, 11:28:40 AM
The vast majority of people who buy video games buy LESS than five a year

Just went through my email.  Including bundles and Kickstarter I've bought 286 (287 if donating to Toady counts) games in the last year.  That's fucking insane and has to stop.

Holy sweet Jesus mother of Mohammed, Buddha save us all.  WTF?!  How do you have time for forums, Arm, going through your email or court?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 21, 2012, 01:28:39 PM
I got Dragon's Dogma. It's super cool.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on October 22, 2012, 03:53:02 AM
Star Wars: Force Unleashed I - Finished!
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/acuracasanova/unleashedpic.jpg)

Star Wars: Force Unleashed II - Finished!
(http://i1235.photobucket.com/albums/ff433/Conradzz/Game%20Covers/StarWarstheForceUnleashed2Cover.jpg)

Bought both a few days ago and finished them yesterday. Enjoyable gameplay but not really much replay value. Storyline on the second installment was pretty disappointing and the game was half as long as the first - Making it pretty damned short. Enjoyed the classical star wars themes and familiar soundtracks, mixed with a few 'jazzed up' tracks.

Considering picking up myself a copy of Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma - But the lack of multiplayer ability for Dragon's Dogma kind've puts me off.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on October 22, 2012, 06:56:18 AM
There is some online capacity, but no multiplayer. However, the single player experience is very strong. A worthy buy, multiplayer or not.

It's like Dark Souls + Skyrim + Shadow of the Colossus.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on October 22, 2012, 07:31:06 AM
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w246/acuracasanova/unleashedpic.jpg)

A game based on a game?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 22, 2012, 04:39:30 PM
http://forums.elementalgame.com/433555/page/1/#replies

Lordcooper, is it worth buying at this point? There are a lot of posts saying its good but still needs work.

Played for around two hours earlier and while the game still has many of the issues I mentioned before, it now seems to have broken the 'I'm actually kind of enjoying this' barrier.  I'll report back when I've had chance to try out the mid-late game, but I'm fairly confident there's a really fun game in here somewhere.  Whether that'll be realised by Stardock or modders remains to be seen.

I haven't played long enough to say if it's actually good yet, but it's not shit (which is saying something after War of Magic).  Still needs work, but Stardock have historically been rather good about post release support, even if the CEO is a douche.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 22, 2012, 05:40:04 PM
There is some online capacity, but no multiplayer. However, the single player experience is very strong. A worthy buy, multiplayer or not.

It's like Dark Souls + Skyrim + Shadow of the Colossus.

Dragon's Dogma is an "important" game. It does things other games never quite can.

That said replay value is limited. NG+ is not scaled to your level and fights become trivial. The online component is indirect and almost too experimental.

There is a big piece of DLC coming that will fix the replayability.

The story is a complete joke.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Bebop on October 22, 2012, 08:25:21 PM
Finished Dishonored with low chaos ending yesterday.

It was kinda short but I loved it.  I do wish that I had received a cinematic ending of some sort akin to that of the theatrical trailer.  There is also the matter of the Heart which I wanted more closure regarding and of expected something different.  Overall, I loved it.  Great dystopian steampunk sorta city, believable characters, excellent lore and morality system that made you think in earnest in regards to government and relationships.

One of my favorite lines is, "The job of an aristocrat is to stay an aristocrat."

Also, Slackjaw WAS Bill the Butcher, and it was awesome.  It left me wanting to replay again and keep looking through every nook and cranny.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 24, 2012, 11:14:33 AM
Hotline Miami is stressing me out in the best of ways.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 26, 2012, 02:08:41 PM
Wing Commander reboot:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen?ref=category
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 26, 2012, 06:21:58 PM
zzzz.... Had a character named Malice on my WoW account I haven't played in a year or so. Just got an email from Blizzard stating that since it's a high-demand name, and I'm not currently playing the character, they are changing the name to something else so other people can have it.


That's kind of shitty.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 27, 2012, 09:40:30 AM
zzzz.... Had a character named Malice on my WoW account I haven't played in a year or so. Just got an email from Blizzard stating that since it's a high-demand name, and I'm not currently playing the character, they are changing the name to something else so other people can have it.


That's kind of shitty.

Are you sure it was Blizzard? Not some phishing email trying to get you to click a link?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on October 27, 2012, 11:24:14 AM
zzzz.... Had a character named Malice on my WoW account I haven't played in a year or so. Just got an email from Blizzard stating that since it's a high-demand name, and I'm not currently playing the character, they are changing the name to something else so other people can have it.


That's kind of shitty.

Are you sure it was Blizzard? Not some phishing email trying to get you to click a link?


Yeah... I hope you didn't click on anything.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 27, 2012, 03:31:07 PM
zzzz.... Had a character named Malice on my WoW account I haven't played in a year or so. Just got an email from Blizzard stating that since it's a high-demand name, and I'm not currently playing the character, they are changing the name to something else so other people can have it.


That's kind of shitty.

Are you sure it was Blizzard? Not some phishing email trying to get you to click a link?


It was definitely Blizzard. I was suspicious at first too until I followed the links from my phone. It registers as the secure and verified b.net support page.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on October 27, 2012, 05:40:45 PM
King's Bounty + expansions is a great alternative to the Heroes of Might&Magic series. They are closely related, but in many ways I like King's Bounty better than HoMM VI, which was a huge letdown in my opinion. Incredible how they managed to screw the magic and talent system up so much.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 27, 2012, 11:10:03 PM
I accidentally made a creature that shoves its head up its own arse whenever it walks.  No idea why.

http://youtu.be/pAng3e05Z88
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on October 28, 2012, 06:55:02 AM
That makes me want to play SPORE again...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on October 28, 2012, 10:18:55 PM
Does anyone have any experience with Guns of Icarus Online? I'm debating picking up the discounted package deal before it launches tomorrow.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 28, 2012, 10:48:53 PM
Does anyone have any experience with Guns of Icarus Online? I'm debating picking up the discounted package deal before it launches tomorrow.

I recall playing a version of it some years ago on OnLive. It was just called "Guns of Icarus."

Essentially, you ran around a zeppelin fixing things, and manning turrets. I think the new version introduces classes and multiplayer.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 29, 2012, 01:10:33 AM
Played a little more Fallen Enchantress, it's actually pretty good even if the pacing is still a bit off.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on October 31, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Quote
we're thrilled to announce the upcoming Sunset Invasion DLC pack for Crusader Kings II. It introduces – wait for it – an Aztec invasion of medieval Europe!

No, we're not kidding. Say hello to Paradox's first non-historic DLC ever for one of its grand strategy games. And what a debut! This pack introduces new Aztec units, culture, portraits, events and religion, as well as a devastating new plague.

Because what could be more “Halloween” than pestilence and human sacrifice? Sunset Invasion will retail at $4.99, and lands Q4 2012.

Unexpected, but it sounds pretty cool IMO.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on October 31, 2012, 03:55:03 PM
Hotline Miami is stressing me out in the best of ways.

Is it easier to play with a controller? Getting my ass KICKED.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on October 31, 2012, 04:49:51 PM
Hotline Miami is stressing me out in the best of ways.

Is it easier to play with a controller? Getting my ass KICKED.



You get used to it after a while. I didn't make it too far in, but once you get intot he swing of thigns you can really blast through levels.

My tip always hold down shift, and always use the automatic rifle in bursts. Otherwise use the knife. Also you can insta-assassinate people by coming up on them quickly and hitting space-bar.

I lost interest though because the game dind't save my progress, and it's not easy to skip through.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 01, 2012, 04:00:03 AM
Hotline Miami is stressing me out in the best of ways.

Is it easier to play with a controller? Getting my ass KICKED.



You get used to it after a while. I didn't make it too far in, but once you get intot he swing of thigns you can really blast through levels.

My tip always hold down shift, and always use the automatic rifle in bursts. Otherwise use the knife. Also you can insta-assassinate people by coming up on them quickly and hitting space-bar.

I lost interest though because the game dind't save my progress, and it's not easy to skip through.

You can start at any chapter you've previously reached (and sometimes the next one for some reason).

@janeshepard: Dunno, haven't tried yet.  Try slowing things down a little if you're really struggling, I tried playing it like GTA at first and failed miserably.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 01, 2012, 09:14:28 AM
I got better at it and reached Chapter 10.... the game technically always saves your progress. All your unlocks etc are saved. It saves your grade on each chapter too.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on November 02, 2012, 04:39:34 PM
So Halo 4 actually emphasizes character and story now? This is the first time I've been interested in the franchise.

ACIII is cool so far. But still lacks in any sort of stealth gameplay.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 02, 2012, 04:43:34 PM
The Halo series has always had a pretty solid single-player story.

In Halo 4, they have indeed put a loose narrative over competitive multiplayer gameplay, and a stronger one for an episodic cooperative mode.  Both modes also share in some mild RPG elements as you gain levels and unlock minor weapons/perks/abilities as well as armor customization.

It is, however, undeniably still an action shooter.  Not an RPG by any means.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 02, 2012, 04:53:31 PM
One of the few complaints I've heard about Halo 4's campaign is that the plot might be too much for new players or people unfamiliar with the extended universe.


Not a problem for me, but I'm curious to hear what you guys think if you check it out.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on November 02, 2012, 05:00:24 PM
The Halo series has always had a pretty solid single-player story.

If by solid, you mean b-movie bogstandard + a whole bunch of pointless lore only fanwanks could care about. (not a huge fan of the halo series)

I craves the dramas in my veegees these days. So I'll be checking this one out.

And I'm pretty much basing my last two posts on this (http://penny-arcade.comeport/editorial-article/halo-4-this-isnt-bungies-halo-anymore-its-better) article.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on November 04, 2012, 01:49:31 AM
Who has Guns of Icarus? We can make a boat called the Armageddon and pit it against others.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 04, 2012, 01:58:10 PM
Something broke with my Paradox games. CK2 and Victoria2 are both screwed up and I can't fix them. Bleh.

Trying to play Penumbra but I'm kind of a chickenshit....
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 06, 2012, 11:40:33 AM
Does anyone have some tips for controlling massive amounts of territory in CK2?  I'm currently in control of everything from Spain, the HRE, everything in between them and a couple of African duchies.  Way too many vassals.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on November 06, 2012, 06:53:24 PM
I believe the general rule is:

Do not make duchies. Do not make them, create them, or hold them. EVER.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 07, 2012, 12:14:59 PM
http://twinbeardstudios.com/frog-fractions

BEST GAME EVAR
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on November 07, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
http://twinbeardstudios.com/frog-fractions

BEST GAME EVAR

THE BESTEST
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on November 08, 2012, 03:04:40 AM
I'm a bit late, but I am playing Planetside 2 (Vanu).

In other game stuff, dissapointed by Deadlight, not really playing X-Com and tentatively looking in to Natural Selection 2. I'm a few days from buying a basic copy of The War Z as well, although still humming and hah-ing over it.

On the subject of first person 'choppers', I would say pick up Chivalry if you want some ridiculous, easy to pick up choppy action without the stupid swing bars and clunky stuff that War of the Roses has.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 10, 2012, 11:27:57 PM
I've scanned my system for keyloggers with MalwareBytes a dozen times, and I'm pretty sure I'm clean, yet someone has somehow managed to get my Guild Wars 2 account information. Despite the fact that it's completely different from my Battle.net account information (which was also stolen and remains compromised despite dozens of attempts to fix it) and hasn't been used on any other websites, someone stole my account and charged my credit card for $300 on the gem store. I can't access arenanet to fix it because I get this:

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<Error code="48" module="3" line="339" text="callback (): TypeError: Cannot read property 'safe' of undefined TypeError: Cannot read property 'safe' of undefined at Object.failure (Account/lib.login.js:89:42) at Object.<anonymous> (Account/login.portal.js:38:35) at Library/sugar-sts.js:114:78"/>

I don't understand how I've managed to go years without ever having any accounts compromised, only to end up with repeated clusterfuck situations in the past couple months.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 12, 2012, 01:06:21 AM
I use AVG. It's free and very effective. Finds trojans that come off websites too.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 12, 2012, 03:03:18 AM
I use AVG as my standard protection but MalwareBytes is typically better at actually scanning my system.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: ghostymudy on November 12, 2012, 04:27:41 AM
http://twinbeardstudios.com/frog-fractions

BEST GAME EVAR

that was.. amazing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on November 12, 2012, 04:35:46 AM
(http://www.meodia.com/userfiles/metal-gear-solid-hd-collection-xbox-360.jpg)

I love this game. I still own all the original Playstation versions, but I'm not sure about this latest one. Peace Walker. Doesn't seem like a MGS game to me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Hot_Dancer on November 12, 2012, 07:08:09 PM
Oh man, I started playing that Mechwarrior Online open beta yesterday. Soul fell out. Awesome.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on November 13, 2012, 03:58:31 PM
Anyone else is playing Chivalry?

I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Buy it from http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/shooter/chivalry-medieval-warfare/ with the code GMG35-5BRU6-ZDRX7 and it's only $15.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on November 14, 2012, 01:57:48 PM
Anyone else is playing Chivalry?

I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Buy it from http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/shooter/chivalry-medieval-warfare/ with the code GMG35-5BRU6-ZDRX7 and it's only $15.

I've been having a good time with it, generally on archer suppression with my big, damned warbow.

Do you have any servers you generally play?  A server with consistent high population is worth its weight in gold.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on November 14, 2012, 06:34:46 PM
Anyone else is playing Chivalry?

I'm having a lot of fun with it.

Buy it from http://www.greenmangaming.com/s/us/en/pc/games/shooter/chivalry-medieval-warfare/ with the code GMG35-5BRU6-ZDRX7 and it's only $15.

I've been having a good time with it, generally on archer suppression with my big, damned warbow.

Do you have any servers you generally play?  A server with consistent high population is worth its weight in gold.

Tell me more. I've moved on from X-Com.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on November 15, 2012, 01:58:20 PM
You pay little money, you think little much, you get into blood filled melees with people who sound like it's some sort of intellectual exercise.

Thoroughly enjoyable, has a fairly easy learning curve and can be tough to master.

My only issue with it is the tiered unlock system that isn't quite sidegrade-ey across the board.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 16, 2012, 12:41:25 PM
Oh man, I started playing that Mechwarrior Online open beta yesterday. Soul fell out. Awesome.
FUCK YOU.  :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 16, 2012, 01:15:07 PM
It has been a decade since they made a good mechwarrior game. I'm a fan of the ultra realism style.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 16, 2012, 01:20:26 PM
Mechcommander is probably my favorite Battletech game. The "Mercenaries" MW games are always good, though. I used to play the tabletop as a kid and before I started Arming I did the tabletop via this javascript program. It was/is pretty cool. It turns 5 hour games into 1-2 hour affairs.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on November 16, 2012, 04:56:28 PM
I remember the old Battletech computer game based off the RPG, on the Commodore 64. I was too young to really appreciate it but I think that was the time I fell in love with roleplay games. It was soul-shatteringly poignant to my little mind. The story resonated with me on a pure level. I've never been able to re-capture that.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 17, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
I am drooling over this so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LabrDe4XJo0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LabrDe4XJo0)

I've spent some 600 hours on the X series package that was offered as a Steam sale awhile back. Hurrah to mind-boggling complexity.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on November 18, 2012, 01:16:33 AM
I've spent some 600 hours on the X series package that was offered as a Steam sale awhile back. Hurrah to mind-boggling complexity.

No shit.  I still think fondly back to my massive complexes that made my video card scream for mercy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wasteland Raider on November 18, 2012, 03:23:58 AM
Towns.

If you wanna dumb it down into layman's terms, it's a graphical Dwarf Fortress that isn't (quite) as complex.

It's a lot of fun, and cheap.

Recommended for those who like deep sandbox games like Terraria, Minecraft, Dwarf Fortress, etc.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 19, 2012, 09:54:02 AM
The walking dead sounds like a nifty game, but I won't buy it before all episodes have been released at a considerate bundle price. Does anyone know the ETA on the last episode?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 19, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
The walking dead sounds like a nifty game, but I won't buy it before all episodes have been released at a considerate bundle price. Does anyone know the ETA on the last episode?

Today for pirates, tomorrow on the PS3, the day after for everything else.  You can buy the whole lot on Steam for £21 or €25.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 19, 2012, 10:41:45 AM
The walking dead sounds like a nifty game, but I won't buy it before all episodes have been released at a considerate bundle price. Does anyone know the ETA on the last episode?

Today for pirates, tomorrow on the PS3, the day after for everything else.  You can buy the whole lot on Steam for £21 or €25.

Hax. Thanks!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 19, 2012, 03:13:17 PM
Oh hey, SW:TOR went free to play a few days ago.

Maybe I'll go back and finish some of those class story arcs.  Honestly, the game is pretty good if you consider it as a bundle of 8 single-player RPG games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: benegesseritwitch on November 19, 2012, 05:00:10 PM
Oh hey, SW:TOR went free to play a few days ago.

Maybe I'll go back and finish some of those class story arcs.  Honestly, the game is pretty good if you consider it as a bundle of 8 single-player RPG games.

I'm thinking about doing the same thing. Left a Knight and a Warrior in the lurch. Then again, this will take away from Arm time...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 19, 2012, 05:50:56 PM
Oh hey, SW:TOR went free to play a few days ago.

Maybe I'll go back and finish some of those class story arcs.  Honestly, the game is pretty good if you consider it as a bundle of 8 single-player RPG games.

The personal story missions are good, but the generic filler quests that you are forced to do to level up between them are far, far worse quality than any halfway entertaining single player RPG content. At some point I was so sick of them that I just tried to run straight through generic uninspired instance #37, dodging generic uninspired aggro mobs left and right because I could not stand killing another 50 of them.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on November 19, 2012, 05:55:26 PM
It went "free to play" in a very restricted sense. You can only have 2 character slots, can't equip certain rares unless you pay money for a permit, can't compete in a lot of the battleground stuff, I believe.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 19, 2012, 06:26:17 PM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/11/19/amnesia-fortnight-decide-double-fines-next-prototypes/

This is an absolutely wonderful idea.  Everything I hear about these guys makes me like them even more.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 19, 2012, 10:10:23 PM
It went "free to play" in a very restricted sense. You can only have 2 character slots, can't equip certain rares unless you pay money for a permit, can't compete in a lot of the battleground stuff, I believe.

I stopped playing 3 months after release (lack of content) but I heard their f2p offering is pretty absurd. They monetized action bars -- we're talking UI elements. There was an article on Massively about this I believe.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on November 19, 2012, 10:17:26 PM
How is the WoW xpac?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on November 19, 2012, 10:19:38 PM
It went "free to play" in a very restricted sense. You can only have 2 character slots, can't equip certain rares unless you pay money for a permit, can't compete in a lot of the battleground stuff, I believe.

I stopped playing 3 months after release (lack of content) but I heard their f2p offering is pretty absurd. They monetized action bars -- we're talking UI elements. There was an article on Massively about this I believe.


They also charge around $4 USD to enable the "hide helmet" option or something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 20, 2012, 12:41:44 AM
How is the WoW xpac?

It's good. Lots and lots of content. The leveling was moderately quick, but not as fast as Cata. I took about a week to do it and thoroughly enjoyed the story.

After that you settle into a plethora of dallies. They are so many of them that you'll eventually pick 2-3 factions to work on every day, or most days. The quests change every day and send you to different places (usually). It's only necessary to get exalted with 2 factions, and revered with 3 to get to the core rewards (mostly valor gear and high ilvl quest rewards). You can attain gear at a slightly less ilvl by queueing for heroic dungeons which are a bit too lolwhat this time around (there's no CC and you just plough through most boss fights). There's also LFR which is a joke at the first tier and gets a little too chaotic later.

I have a prot warrior as an MT for a raiding guild, and have almost perfect attendance. That's mainly what keeps me logging in.

If you enjoyed WoW previously for systems outside of raiding, there's a ton of content now for each of the various systems. Even fishing has its own faction with its own rewards. For the first time I'm actually enjoying fishing with guildies. I never thought I would :)

The Pandaran animations are amazing. I haven't rolled one yet but my alt is a mage with a minor glyph that lets me masquerade as any other friendly PC. For fun I'll masquerade as a panda and oogle at how detailed the animations are.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on November 20, 2012, 02:34:54 AM
So many goddamn dailies. If you're going to do them ever though, now's the time to do them with Pilgrim's Bounty going on.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on November 20, 2012, 08:32:36 AM
Planetside 2 Officially Launched today.  I am playing on the Connery server with New Conglomerate.  I am going to be playing with an outfit called the 666th Devil Dogs.  They are a very large Outfit that is very organized and I have had a TON of fun playing with them.  I will be Knoxx on that server, hit me up if you are interested in playing together.

Devil Dogs website:  http://www.planetside-devildogs.com/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on November 20, 2012, 11:17:05 AM
Could be worse, could be the Enclave.

The Devil Dogs are pretty much the smurf version of the Enclave.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 21, 2012, 12:39:40 AM
I just finished playing Walking Dead by Telltale games. The final episode was released on PSN today (tomorrow for the PC).

I've never been so fully invested emotionally in a game. Not even games Bioware used to make. Very well written.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: KankWhisperer on November 21, 2012, 03:56:35 AM
Planetside 2 Officially Launched today.  I am playing on the Connery server with New Conglomerate.  I am going to be playing with an outfit called the 666th Devil Dogs.  They are a very large Outfit that is very organized and I have had a TON of fun playing with them.  I will be Knoxx on that server, hit me up if you are interested in playing together.

Devil Dogs website:  http://www.planetside-devildogs.com/

Either my rig is finally starting to show its age or certain maps are just laggy when 100+ ppl try and take it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 21, 2012, 04:19:02 AM
Planetside 2 Officially Launched today.  I am playing on the Connery server with New Conglomerate.  I am going to be playing with an outfit called the 666th Devil Dogs.  They are a very large Outfit that is very organized and I have had a TON of fun playing with them.  I will be Knoxx on that server, hit me up if you are interested in playing together.

Devil Dogs website:  http://www.planetside-devildogs.com/

Either my rig is finally starting to show its age or certain maps are just laggy when 100+ ppl try and take it.

The devs have taken stances anywhere from "4 year old machines should run it" to "you'll need a fairly powerful computer to run it well". The optimization is kind of all over the place.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on November 21, 2012, 02:00:18 PM
I have a two year old machine with a few tweeks, I run the graphics on high settings across the board and I have seen very little lag to almost no lag.  If you see lag, I'd recommend lowering the settings a bit, disable shadows.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on November 21, 2012, 02:35:44 PM
I'd like to play Planetside 2 but I'm not very good at FPS games.

I got into the beta but was too coward to go to the frontlines!  ;D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on November 21, 2012, 02:38:08 PM
I'd like to play Planetside 2 but I'm not very good at FPS games.

I got into the beta but was too coward to go to the frontlines!  ;D

Well that's the thing, you can play this game and not even have to shoot at someone.  Want to be a medic and heal people and bring people around you back to life?  You can do it.  Drive a Trooper Transport called a Sunderer around where you can spec it out to allow it to be a mobile spawning point that people can refit at.  Every time someone spawns at the Sunderer you get XP.  Every time you heal someone or revive them, you get XP.  You don't have to shoot a single bullet in this game to do something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 21, 2012, 02:40:48 PM
I'd like to play Planetside 2 but I'm not very good at FPS games.

I got into the beta but was too coward to go to the frontlines!  ;D

Well that's the thing, you can play this game and not even have to shoot at someone.  Want to be a medic and heal people and bring people around you back to life?  You can do it.  Drive a Trooper Transport called a Sunderer around where you can spec it out to allow it to be a mobile spawning point that people can refit at.  Every time someone spawns at the Sunderer you get XP.  Every time you heal someone or revive them, you get XP.  You don't have to shoot a single bullet in this game to do something.

I couldn't ever figure out where the front line -was-, until someone shot me out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on November 21, 2012, 02:42:07 PM
I did go for the medic class but ended up standing there like a lost puppy.  :P
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on November 21, 2012, 02:46:23 PM
I'd like to play Planetside 2 but I'm not very good at FPS games.

I got into the beta but was too coward to go to the frontlines!  ;D

Well that's the thing, you can play this game and not even have to shoot at someone.  Want to be a medic and heal people and bring people around you back to life?  You can do it.  Drive a Trooper Transport called a Sunderer around where you can spec it out to allow it to be a mobile spawning point that people can refit at.  Every time someone spawns at the Sunderer you get XP.  Every time you heal someone or revive them, you get XP.  You don't have to shoot a single bullet in this game to do something.

It's rather easy... it's color coded... and they have these lovely things called hot spots that make instant action easy.  Also you can over you cursor over sectors on the map and it will give you some more details.
I couldn't ever figure out where the front line -was-, until someone shot me out of nowhere.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on November 21, 2012, 03:44:49 PM
You have nearly just sold this game to me. I may download it when I'm around again next week.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 21, 2012, 04:19:24 PM
Steam is a fucking bastard and I love it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on November 21, 2012, 05:20:38 PM
Steam is a fucking bastard and I love it.

What happened?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 21, 2012, 05:29:53 PM
Steam is a fucking bastard and I love it.
What happened?

Sale upon sale upon sale ;D :-\ :( >:( ;D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 21, 2012, 05:45:49 PM
Steam is a fucking bastard and I love it.

What did you get?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on November 21, 2012, 06:30:19 PM
I have Lord cooper on my friendslist. He's worse than I am.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on November 21, 2012, 06:31:39 PM
Knights of the Old Republic 2 for two fitty.

Even if I never play it, I still need it in my collection.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 21, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
Knights of the Old Republic 2 for two fitty.

Even if I never play it, I still need it in my collection.

Unfinished but much better story than the first one.

Started playing Planetside 2, and have Mechwarrior Online downloaded. I'm not impressed with how bad the PS2 client runs on my machine :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on November 22, 2012, 10:34:33 AM
You delicious nargles must steam me... someday.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 22, 2012, 11:02:49 AM
WHOA! All of the games I had intended to eventually buy, even Skyrim Dawnguard, Witcher 2 and Terraria, are on sale right now  :o

THis is proof that Steam is a mindbender.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 22, 2012, 03:53:33 PM
It begins. I've made my first Autumn sale purchases.

Dead Island GOTY edition, To the Moon, and Witcher 2, to start with. There are some other things I'm looking at, but I'm waiting to see if they end up as flash sales/daily deals.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 22, 2012, 04:21:20 PM
Steam is a fucking bastard and I love it.
What did you get?

Mark of the Ninja (turned out to be way better than I expected), The Walking Dead and Witcher 2 so far, but I'd only just bought Don't Starve (a pretty fun survival/nightmare sim with excellent artwork), Chivalry, and Waking Mars (a brilliant Metroid-style farming/exploration game).

To the Moon

Finally!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 22, 2012, 05:54:49 PM
I'm not even an hour in and this game is already depressing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on November 22, 2012, 06:29:37 PM
I'd buy dead island if other Armers are willing to multiplay. Anyone up for a team romp on occasion? Just don't play public - modders and hackers have trashed any semblance of the game's fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 23, 2012, 09:06:26 AM
The Walking Dead is absolutely brilliant. Murder, death, corruption - Armageddon with zombies, in a way.  8)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 23, 2012, 09:19:56 PM
The Walking Dead is absolutely brilliant. Murder, death, corruption - Armageddon with zombies, in a way.  8)

I want to play it again but I'm not sure what choices I would make different.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 23, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
The Walking Dead is absolutely brilliant. Murder, death, corruption - Armageddon with zombies, in a way.  8)

Just finished episode 2 and I gotta say it's an extremely well made game so far.  It's quite interesting how much Clementine's presence is affecting the choices I make, not sure if I've come across a game that gives you such a strong moral anchor before.  Things seem a little predictable so far though (episode 2 spoiler like, it was blinding obvious that those guys were cannibals way too early on), maybe I've just spent too much time on tvtropes.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 23, 2012, 11:56:18 PM
Episode 2 isn't far enough. Things get interesting ep3 onwards :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 24, 2012, 05:18:18 AM
Episode 2 isn't far enough. Things get interesting ep3 onwards :D


Episode 3 got me all teary-eyed. And shocked. I'll be sad when this game ends! I'll play ep 4 today.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on November 24, 2012, 12:22:29 PM
I'd buy dead island if other Armers are willing to multiplay. Anyone up for a team romp on occasion? Just don't play public - modders and hackers have trashed any semblance of the game's fun.

I would - but there are so many better options now. For example, Borderlands 2!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on November 24, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
You have me there.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 24, 2012, 05:24:27 PM
The Walking Dead is absolutely brilliant. Murder, death, corruption - Armageddon with zombies, in a way.  8)

I want to play it again but I'm not sure what choices I would make different.


I'll play it again just to save the other person in episode 2. Choosing who you save seems to have a large impact on the story from there onwards.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marc on November 24, 2012, 05:26:49 PM
The Walking Dead is absolutely brilliant. Murder, death, corruption - Armageddon with zombies, in a way.  8)

I want to play it again but I'm not sure what choices I would make different.


I'll play it again just to save the other person in episode 2. Choosing who you save seems to have a large impact on the story from there onwards.

GOSH DARNIT!  Spoiler alert, pahleeez.

/sarcasm
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 24, 2012, 06:06:46 PM
Oh come on... if THAT is a spoiler... then the NAME OF THE GAME is a spoiler. It's about zombies! SPOILER!!!111!!  ;)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Barzalene on November 24, 2012, 06:20:47 PM
Completely wrong thread! Sheesh. Sorry.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on November 24, 2012, 07:43:26 PM
Is Planetside enjoyable?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 25, 2012, 05:41:25 AM
Is Planetside enjoyable?

I've been playing with a couple friends and if you know how to find the good fights, it's really really fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on November 25, 2012, 05:47:45 AM
Is Planetside enjoyable?

I've been playing with a couple friends and if you know how to find the good fights, it's really really fun.
And it's free... So... Really. Try it?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on November 25, 2012, 09:43:39 AM
I am selling my soul to Borderlands 2 right now..

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 25, 2012, 10:55:05 AM
Been trying to give Skyrim another plundering but can't seem to get into the line I'm on. Mebbe it'll turn out now that I went Stormcloak again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 25, 2012, 10:03:01 PM
The Walking Dead is absolutely brilliant. Murder, death, corruption - Armageddon with zombies, in a way.  8)

I want to play it again but I'm not sure what choices I would make different.


I'll play it again just to save the other person in episode 2. Choosing who you save seems to have a large impact on the story from there onwards.

I just can't wait for people to finish episode 3 :) That's when the game really starts to shine.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on November 26, 2012, 12:05:04 AM
I am selling my soul to Borderlands 2 right now..



"That sentence had too many syllables... APOLOGIZE!"
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 26, 2012, 06:31:51 PM
Going to be starting episode 2 of The Walking Dead right now!

Episode 1 was fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 26, 2012, 06:46:32 PM
Final tally for the steam autumn sale:

To the Moon
Witcher II
Alan Wake Collection
Dead Island GOTY Edition
Deus Ex: HR
Total War: Shogun II
Tropico 4
Torchlight II

For about $65 total spent. I think I did nicely.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 27, 2012, 06:28:48 AM
Whaaat... when was Alan Wake on sale? WHY DID I MISS IT?  :'(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 27, 2012, 08:55:41 AM
Nevermind, it's still on sale. Hallelujah!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on November 27, 2012, 07:05:12 PM
Man, the Walking Dead game is stressful as hell!

Much better than I thought it would be, though. I usually don't enjoy click-adventure games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 27, 2012, 07:27:40 PM
Man, the Walking Dead game is stressful as hell!

Much better than I thought it would be, though. I usually don't enjoy click-adventure games.

Exactly how I've felt. I'm almost through with episode 3, guaging on the length of the other two episodes.


I'm very impressed by the length of each episode, I thought they would be much shorter.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 27, 2012, 10:52:36 PM
I finally won my first multiplayer game of Shogun 2.

I was matched against some guy who had the Fall of the Samurai expansion and was running a metric fuckton of dudes with muskets and swords, and somehow won with a bunch of spear samurai.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Hot_Dancer on November 28, 2012, 01:14:14 AM
Haaha - Shogun 2's multiplayer is hard to get into. I've got 200+ hours in multiplayer matches and all that are really left are the more hardcore enthusiasts. My win rate is still only about 40-50% during heavy practice periods.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 28, 2012, 05:57:05 AM
Information and concept art for Bungie's next game, Destiny, is finally starting to find it's way onto the interwebs.

This picture from 2009's Halo 3: ODST reminds me why I love Bungie.

(http://misriahsolutions.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/destiny_awaits.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on November 28, 2012, 12:19:08 PM
I purchased The Walking Dead. I wish there were more zombies to kill and it was a sandbox. I think I'd enjoy that more. I also get frantically nerve-wrecked when my timer speeds by so quickly. I like to think about what my character would do before deciding, it's KILLING ME.

Yes, on a side-note my PCs always take 1-2 minutes to respond to those big-time RP scenes. I'm sorry, I don't want to mess it up! THE AGONY!!!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 28, 2012, 12:45:26 PM
The Walking Dead, best on PC or XBox?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 28, 2012, 01:38:28 PM
The Walking Dead, best on PC or XBox?

I think it pretty much comes down to whether your sofa or chair is comfier.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 28, 2012, 01:42:04 PM
Sofa, no doubt!

But sometimes shooters aren't ported to console right (Mass Effect 1, Half-Life 2) and it can seriously detract from the experience.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on November 28, 2012, 03:06:51 PM
I found the walking dead ending to be underwhelming, having expected different (and more elaborate) endings based on choices made. Buuuut of course if they are planning on a season 2, that explains it. Damn cliffhangers.

Currently having fun goofing around in Terraria. Still playing Entropia Universe as well, not making much RL money from it but every little bit is fun for the challenge of it, seeing how some people spend hundreds of dollars a WEEK on it instead of making any.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on November 28, 2012, 03:25:49 PM
Sofa, no doubt!

But sometimes shooters aren't ported to console right (Mass Effect 1, Half-Life 2) and it can seriously detract from the experience.

Well it's hardly a shooter, so xbox it is then.  The Walking Dead (at least up to the end of episode 3 which is as far as I've played so far) is more about interesting choices and their consequences than action that requires super fast reactions or accurate aiming.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on November 28, 2012, 04:09:07 PM
I found the walking dead ending to be underwhelming, having expected different (and more elaborate) endings based on choices made. Buuuut of course if they are planning on a season 2, that explains it. Damn cliffhangers.

There's five new episodes coming out in 2013.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 30, 2012, 12:02:45 PM
The ending was satisfying. That's more than I can say for season endings in the tv series.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Sanvean on November 30, 2012, 12:51:53 PM
Re: Bungie's Destiny:

I've got a friend working on this, but she's under NDA and can't talk about it. However, she did say the other day that her boss made her read all of H.P. Lovecraft, which makes me really eager to see what this ends up looking like.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on November 30, 2012, 02:48:13 PM
I will be honest about Destiny: maybe it's just a "Bungie style", but a lot of the art and concepts still smell like Halo, and I kinda worry that the game will be just Halo with capes or something.  Kinda wish they'd moved a little further from mil-scifi.

The game story and gameplay concept also reminds me a bit of Defiance.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on November 30, 2012, 04:28:09 PM
I think it's going to be more fantasy-science fiction. You play a "knight", according to the leaked stuff. A lot of the leaked armor concepts and stuff are not official art, they're prototype mockups using old concept art for other games, presumably for pitches to Activision.

The little bit of information we have makes it sound similar to Marathon's universe, where there are a lot of horrible, ancient things out in the stars, and humanity is trying to eek out an existence without getting obliterated by them.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on November 30, 2012, 06:22:10 PM
I'd play a Fading Suns game. Medieval governance in space with a theocratic authority controlling technology, and barbarians in uncharted space (a silent threatening alien race, and demons).
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on November 30, 2012, 08:41:32 PM
Got Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition that was released the other day.

Nice and shiny!  ;D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Delirium on November 30, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
*whimper*

I so wish I had time to play ... I looooooooooooooooooooooooved Baldur's Gate.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on December 01, 2012, 09:22:32 AM
I'm just finishing Icewind Dale 1, god that game has the prettiest environments ever.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on December 02, 2012, 01:38:42 AM
Got Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition that was released the other day.

Nice and shiny!  ;D

Where'd you get that?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on December 02, 2012, 06:52:32 AM
I just started replaying Dragon Age Origins that I got from the Steam Autumn sale.

I love mods.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 02, 2012, 07:30:22 AM
Tried to play DayZ and spawned as some kind of bird.  The fuck?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on December 02, 2012, 11:11:46 AM
Got Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition that was released the other day.

Nice and shiny!  ;D

Where'd you get that?

http://www.beamdog.com/products/baldurs-gate-enhanced-edition
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on December 02, 2012, 07:16:25 PM
Tried to play DayZ and spawned as some kind of bird.  The fuck?

(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31177135.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 02, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
I want to smash that guys face with a cinder block.

Playing my own modded Victoria 2 the last few days but I think I've about exhausted her. My latest Prussian game was fun. I focused on industrial tech and pouring in craftsmen and Capitalists the first 10 years or so, annexing Denmark and a few German minors. Two unconclusive wars with the French/Austrian bloc but I pulled a stroke of courage and genius and allied with the Russkies and British to stalemate them. Things mostly settled down until about 1870 or so when I attacked france and fired three hurrahs. I kept popping CB events and went balls to the wall, taking southern Sweden, parts of Amsterdam and the bulk of the northern and western Austrian provinces. I reaped it on the BadBoy though and the fucking Russians betrayed me and joined a sudden french War of Containment. They had me running for like six full years but the attrition ate their forces and I counterattacked. White peace about 1883 or so, and from then on I ran away with the game. I took the majority of Africa that wasn't UK or Ottoman territory. Three sharp wars with portugal and I colonized southern africa nicely. I was just working up to betraying my full-game Ally the UK when I lost interest. Good, stout german game. I had Brandenburg completely industrialized by 1880 or so and even took the Phillipines from Spain and had a German outpost in Korea.

Hooray.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marc on December 02, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
I want to smash that guys face with a cinder block.

Playing my own modded Victoria 2 the last few days but I think I've about exhausted her. My latest Prussian game was fun. I focused on industrial tech and pouring in craftsmen and Capitalists the first 10 years or so, annexing Denmark and a few German minors. Two unconclusive wars with the French/Austrian bloc but I pulled a stroke of courage and genius and allied with the Russkies and British to stalemate them. Things mostly settled down until about 1870 or so when I attacked france and fired three hurrahs. I kept popping CB events and went balls to the wall, taking southern Sweden, parts of Amsterdam and the bulk of the northern and western Austrian provinces. I reaped it on the BadBoy though and the fucking Russians betrayed me and joined a sudden french War of Containment. They had me running for like six full years but the attrition ate their forces and I counterattacked. White peace about 1883 or so, and from then on I ran away with the game. I took the majority of Africa that wasn't UK or Ottoman territory. Three sharp wars with portugal and I colonized southern africa nicely. I was just working up to betraying my full-game Ally the UK when I lost interest. Good, stout german game. I had Brandenburg completely industrialized by 1880 or so and even took the Phillipines from Spain and had a German outpost in Korea.

Hooray.

What mods?

Vicky I is one of my favorite games of all time.  Vicky II seems broken during the end game but haven't taken it for a spin since a few months after release.

I want Vicky II to rock so bad :-(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 03, 2012, 08:48:05 PM
Inxile now owns the Torment IP.  This could be a great thing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 04, 2012, 02:30:16 AM
Little bit more information on that. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/12/planescape-torment-sequel-finally-in-the-works/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on December 04, 2012, 02:54:14 AM
Little bit more information on that. (http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/12/planescape-torment-sequel-finally-in-the-works/)

I'm not sure that Torment's story needs any new answers. It's done and concluded. If they made a sequel, I'd rather have them concentrate on the setting and not on TNO. If we get a prequel, like what was that he did to deserve such punishment... I bet it will be underwhelming.

New adventures around Sigil and Hive and catacombs... oh, boy.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 04, 2012, 11:52:52 AM
I'm not sure that Torment's story needs any new answers. It's done and concluded. If they made a sequel, I'd rather have them concentrate on the setting and not on TNO. If we get a prequel, like what was that he did to deserve such punishment... I bet it will be underwhelming.

New adventures around Sigil and Hive and catacombs... oh, boy.

Pretty sure what that article means is that much of the Planescape content is WotC material.

You're not likely to see the exact same sights as the previous game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Harmless on December 04, 2012, 01:40:16 PM
I would play ANY new planescape-setting game unless it runs like dragon age. And wholeheartedly agreed, a prequel or a sequel to the original would suck big time, because of all the RPG's I've played Planescape: Torment is one of the best standalone, complete products ever made and certainly doesn't need more.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on December 05, 2012, 11:45:38 PM
Far Cry 3 looks to be tons better than 2 was.

Gonna download the DLC for Skyrim. You get to ride DRAGONS.

Probably going to re-install Morrowind due to Dragonborn nostalgia.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Synthesis on December 05, 2012, 11:51:16 PM
Tried to play DayZ and spawned as some kind of bird.  The fuck?

Pretty common hacker exploit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 06, 2012, 01:42:31 AM
Tried to play DayZ and spawned as some kind of bird.  The fuck?

Pretty common hacker exploit.

But it was a clean install of the game on Steam ???

It's working fine now, and I'm faced with the alternate issue of the game not actually being that good.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on December 06, 2012, 02:09:20 AM
Tried to play DayZ and spawned as some kind of bird.  The fuck?

Pretty common hacker exploit.

But it was a clean install of the game on Steam ???

It's working fine now, and I'm faced with the alternate issue of the game not actually being that good.

A clean install on Steam won't change the fact that you're connecting to a server to play multiplayer.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 06, 2012, 03:22:44 PM
Inxile now owns the Torment IP.  This could be a great thing.

Could, yes.

AFAIK, Brian Fargo is the only guy left from the old Interplay crew and other than making the smart decision of working on a sequel to Wasteland, he hasn't done anything of note since Interplay.

Youtube Matt Chat's interview with Brian Fargo and Rebecca Heinemen about Interplay. I liked the part where Rebecca was essentially describing how Brian mandated a dragon get put into a game because... well just because!

BTW, I'd like to see this guy make an RPG:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I30dzwiNxLk

He made Darklands, an AMAZING RPG that never got enough marketing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 07, 2012, 02:50:36 PM
I really like Alan Wake. Except for the flashlight / gun battles. I find them annoying. And the enemies are always the same, except some are tougher / do more damage.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 07, 2012, 04:24:23 PM
From what I've played so far, I really like the bits where story actually happens, and utterly despise all the forest-running light-shining axe-murderer-shooting that connects the story bits.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 07, 2012, 05:01:31 PM
From what I've played so far, I really like the bits where story actually happens, and utterly despise all the forest-running light-shining axe-murderer-shooting that connects the story bits.

This. Exactly this. I did enjoy the forest running in chapter 3 where I had no gun, and no axe murderers spawned. As soon as I found a new gun, I was like nooooo now it's starting again  :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 07, 2012, 10:55:00 PM
Skip to around 46 minutes in to see a very uncomfortable looking Jessica Alba awkwardly announce Dark Souls 2 to a room full of screaming neckbeards. (http://www.spike.com/netstorage/events/video-game-awards/live/)  It is very refined.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on December 07, 2012, 10:57:13 PM
That's.. special.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 08, 2012, 06:34:48 AM
Having a lot of fun with Far Cry 3. I'm setting up the Map Editor right now, I think I'm gonna try my hand at recreating a few spaces from Armageddon to teach myself how it works.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 10, 2012, 09:43:01 PM
Oh bugger, Dark Souls has me again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on December 10, 2012, 11:04:53 PM
Having a lot of fun with Far Cry 3. I'm setting up the Map Editor right now, I think I'm gonna try my hand at recreating a few spaces from Armageddon to teach myself how it works.

Dude IMO they haven't been able to give us a map editor as good as the one from far cry instincts. I'll be getting far cry 3 soon and hope its map editor is good. I'd spend 6 or 7 hours designing and testing multiplay maps on instincts.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 11, 2012, 07:09:58 AM
Oh bugger, Dark Souls has me again.

Oh, look!  Free humanity!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 11, 2012, 07:46:27 AM
Having a lot of fun with Far Cry 3. I'm setting up the Map Editor right now, I think I'm gonna try my hand at recreating a few spaces from Armageddon to teach myself how it works.

Dude IMO they haven't been able to give us a map editor as good as the one from far cry instincts. I'll be getting far cry 3 soon and hope its map editor is good. I'd spend 6 or 7 hours designing and testing multiplay maps on instincts.


Yeah I did this too. Good times.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 11, 2012, 11:06:42 AM
Oh bugger, Dark Souls has me again.

Oh, look!  Free humanity!

Not a bloody chance.  It's amazing how much of the game is actually skill/knowledge rather than stat/equipment based.  I've managed to ring both bells in just over 90 minutes, it took me about 30 hours to do this the first time I played it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 11, 2012, 01:38:55 PM
Not a bloody chance.  It's amazing how much of the game is actually skill/knowledge rather than stat/equipment based.  I've managed to ring both bells in just over 90 minutes, it took me about 30 hours to do this the first time I played it.

Considering how much upgrading your stats and equipment matters, it's no surprise at all.

Though if you ever do get into the PvP scene here's a tip : the first five moves of any combat consist of convincing your opponent he can't backstab you.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 11, 2012, 02:19:20 PM
I loved both Dark Souls and Demon Souls but they need to hire a writer because the story is ludicrous.

In other news, guild cleared Heart Of Fear last week in WoW, and my prot warrior is the main tank. Onto heroics next!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 11, 2012, 03:26:48 PM
I loved Dark Souls' story. It's there, you just have to dig for it. The mystery and vagueness of it all is part of what made it awesome.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on December 11, 2012, 03:58:23 PM
The narrative style to Souls is really different from other games. Changing it into another adventure story wouldn't just change the story, it would also change the atmosphere and game progression.

If they just turned it into an adventure story, it would be an entirely different type of game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 11, 2012, 06:47:47 PM
Not only that, but having vibrant, active narrators contradicts the major theme of the game : decline of the spirit.  It's fitting that you learn the history by picking up the surviving relics.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 12, 2012, 02:37:15 AM
Is it just me or were the Darkwraiths essentially the closest thing to good guys in the game?  Gathering Humanity in order to keep the gods from burning it seems like a pretty noble cause.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 12, 2012, 06:54:58 AM
Is it just me or were the Darkwraiths essentially the closest thing to good guys in the game?  Gathering Humanity in order to keep the gods from burning it seems like a pretty noble cause.

Gwyn : burned himself into a broken, insane Cinder in order to keep the world warm.  Inspired a legion of imitators that are the sole reason you are able to move through the game (the bonfires). 

Note how humanity is necessary to kindle the fires into something stronger.  Likely a vital component.

Kaathe :  Sits in a dark, life-eating hole.  Waits for the world to grow weak and insane enough for him to exert control.  Spawned a legion of murderers who drain the means by which the world might be kept strong and sane : humanity.

How's that for comparison?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 12, 2012, 07:18:15 AM
Purchasing a gamepad that didn't work properly somehow killed my will to continue playing Dark Souls. It's been idling on my desktop for months.  :(

I haven't even tested the replacement pad I received at the store.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 12, 2012, 07:51:50 AM
Dalmeth, you seem to have reached the exact opposite conclusions to me.  I'll try to outline mine a little more comprehensively in a while.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 12, 2012, 08:59:12 AM
Something to think about:

The bonfires slowly sap the humanity of people who spend too long in their presence. The Darkwraiths are trying to gather enough humanity to usher in a new Age of Man but have been forced into the shadows and cast as villains by Gwyn's followers as they try to perpetuate the Age of Fire and deny man's dominance.

I like to think of Knight Lautrec as a Chosen Undead who was trying to defeat Gwyn himself.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on December 12, 2012, 12:21:52 PM
Oh SunBro.

Why did you go hollow?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 12, 2012, 02:35:27 PM
Oh SunBro.

Why did you go hollow?

Because burnt and broken, he couldn't open the door.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on December 12, 2012, 05:40:15 PM
(http://i48.tinypic.com/21jrdrl.gif)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on December 12, 2012, 06:14:45 PM
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Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 12, 2012, 11:49:43 PM
Decided to play DayZ again after remembering the fun times I had with Yam and the Day/v/ crew back when it came out.

Holy fucking shit whoever decided to remove spawn weapons and not give you anything to replace them deserves to be kicked in the fucking mouth. Running for 45 minutes because a marathon-sprinter zombie spotted you from 300 feet away and you have no weapons and zombies ignore all intervening objects including walls is not fun. It's fucking stupid.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 13, 2012, 02:47:43 AM
Left my little sister alone for ten minutes while babysitting and she managed to boot up my game and kill Solaire.  Not a happy bunny.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 13, 2012, 03:02:20 PM
When does the Steam xmas sale usually begin?

Looking to pick up Borderlands 2 on the cheap, and whatever else I missed this year.

EDIT: Just checked out the trailer of Dark Souls 2. Looks like an undead dude making his way to Lordran after Gwyn gives him a feather. Not sure who the bad guys in the masks are.


Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Chettaman on December 13, 2012, 05:14:21 PM
Not a bloody chance.  It's amazing how much of the game is actually skill/knowledge rather than stat/equipment based.  I've managed to ring both bells in just over 90 minutes, it took me about 30 hours to do this the first time I played it.

Considering how much upgrading your stats and equipment matters, it's no surprise at all.

Though if you ever do get into the PvP scene here's a tip : the first five moves of any combat consist of convincing your opponent he can't backstab you.

Enjoy!

Dood. the first time I ran through the game:
I didn't have online capabilities
I didn't know you could summon NPCs
My LB button was broken so I couldn't actually block with a shield.
I had no clue you could UPGRADE WEAPONS until after I beat smough and ornstein and someone told me at work. - this was also after killing; the gorgoyles, qualag, ceaseless discharge, the gaping dragon, going the long way into the swamp - and killing the hydra.

I defeated all of the special soul bosses without being able to block. Including the final one.

How dare you say this game isn't about skill...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 13, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
How dare you say this game isn't about skill...

Given the context of the general conversation of items versus skills, Dark Souls is a game with few necessary items or powerups.

Thus, Dark Souls is a game where what you do with those items is paramount, thus making it all about planning and skill.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 14, 2012, 03:36:13 AM

Dood. the first time I ran through the game:
I didn't have online capabilities
I didn't know you could summon NPCs
My LB button was broken so I couldn't actually block with a shield.
I had no clue you could UPGRADE WEAPONS until after I beat smough and ornstein and someone told me at work. - this was also after killing; the gorgoyles, qualag, ceaseless discharge, the gaping dragon, going the long way into the swamp - and killing the hydra.

I defeated all of the special soul bosses without being able to block. Including the final one.

How dare you say this game isn't about skill...

You're my hero.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 14, 2012, 03:25:37 PM
How DO you summon NPCs in Dark Souls?  :o
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 14, 2012, 03:44:16 PM
How DO you summon NPCs in Dark Souls?  :o

Other players leave a white mark on the ground step over it and click.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 14, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
How DO you summon NPCs in Dark Souls?  :o

Other players leave a white mark on the ground step over it and click.

NPCs also do this from time to time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 14, 2012, 07:09:02 PM
Certain NPCs like Knight Solaire, Knight Lautrec, and Maneater Mildred can be summoned at various locations prior to bossfights. They can be summoned by activating the glowing summon signs on the ground the same way you'd summon a player.

Golden sign = Summon sign for a member of the Sunlight Warriors
White sign = Summon sign for a friendly player
Red sign = Will summon a hostile player
Purple eye = Will summon a member of the Everlast Dragon covenant to fight you


Gwyn, Lord of Cinder is a dude, so that's definitely not Gwyn in the Dark Souls 2 trailer. Gwynevere is the only female deity in Anor Londo and it's definitely not her. Assuming DS2 takes place in the same universe, I'm pretty certain it's going to be in an entirely different part of the world or time period, perhaps the homeland of Magnificent Chester since the masked assassins in the trailer bear some similarity to him.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: thatkid on December 14, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
So I'm not sure what the hype about Dishonored was, and I'm no doubt a little late on the draw for this game, but...
Have the people on this island never heard of cats before?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 15, 2012, 12:04:45 AM
How DO you summon NPCs in Dark Souls?  :o

You have to restore your humanity at a bonfire.  Costs one humanity.  Then you should see NPC summon signs in the walk up to the boss fight.

Also, you'll see other players' summon signs all over the damned place.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Chettaman on December 15, 2012, 07:05:12 AM

Dood. the first time I ran through the game:
I didn't have online capabilities
I didn't know you could summon NPCs
My LB button was broken so I couldn't actually block with a shield.
I had no clue you could UPGRADE WEAPONS until after I beat smough and ornstein and someone told me at work. - this was also after killing; the gorgoyles, qualag, ceaseless discharge, the gaping dragon, going the long way into the swamp - and killing the hydra.

I defeated all of the special soul bosses without being able to block. Including the final one.

How dare you say this game isn't about skill...

You're my hero.

baby, I know it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on December 16, 2012, 07:12:22 PM
(https://s3.amazonaws.com/ksr/assets/000/298/954/5a578ede9e5dd9e659909c4d32d5fa1c_large.jpg?1355076704) (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1317934609/forsaken-fortress)

Looks pretty cool.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 17, 2012, 02:48:12 AM
Finished Mark of the Ninja today.  It's basically the best stealth game I've ever played.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Romy on December 17, 2012, 04:23:40 AM
Getting 100% on ACIII is so booboo. I'll never get the platinum trophy. :'(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 17, 2012, 10:36:14 AM
The legend returns...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pDy-CSFsPs&feature=player_embedded#!

I haven't tried the remake yet but may pick it up on Steam sale.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 17, 2012, 05:36:19 PM
Been playing Dark Souls and really enjoying it. Super frustrated when I've been getting invaded and griefed. Also, does anyone else have issues summoning others to help? I've only had one success in summoning someone. I tried opening ports and setting up a DMZ - but I keep failing summons. Suggestions?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 17, 2012, 05:52:00 PM
Been playing Dark Souls and really enjoying it. Super frustrated when I've been getting invaded and griefed. Also, does anyone else have issues summoning others to help? I've only had one success in summoning someone. I tried opening ports and setting up a DMZ - but I keep failing summons. Suggestions?

Occasional problems.

Don't forget you can drop the whitestone to help and regain your humanity. I'd hate to see you go hollow!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 17, 2012, 06:13:36 PM
Been playing Dark Souls and really enjoying it. Super frustrated when I've been getting invaded and griefed. Also, does anyone else have issues summoning others to help? I've only had one success in summoning someone. I tried opening ports and setting up a DMZ - but I keep failing summons. Suggestions?

Occasional problems.

Don't forget you can drop the whitestone to help and regain your humanity. I'd hate to see you go hollow!



I mean there is nothing wrong with being hollow, right? The only benefit to being alive is that people can join you or invade, correct? No need to be human if I can never summon help. I just keep getting invaded and griefed. It sucks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 17, 2012, 06:23:08 PM
Been playing Dark Souls and really enjoying it. Super frustrated when I've been getting invaded and griefed. Also, does anyone else have issues summoning others to help? I've only had one success in summoning someone. I tried opening ports and setting up a DMZ - but I keep failing summons. Suggestions?

Occasional problems.

Don't forget you can drop the whitestone to help and regain your humanity. I'd hate to see you go hollow!



I mean there is nothing wrong with being hollow, right? The only benefit to being alive is that people can join you or invade, correct? No need to be human if I can never summon help. I just keep getting invaded and griefed. It sucks.

Item drops, defence and curse resistance are significantly lower while hollow and certain events only happen while in one state or the other.  The constant invasions by people far more powerful than you will ease up once you get a little way beyond the Undead Parish or level up a bit.  A lot of assholes seem to keep extremely low level darkwraiths just to grief newbies.

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Humanity
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 17, 2012, 06:25:43 PM
Been playing Dark Souls and really enjoying it. Super frustrated when I've been getting invaded and griefed. Also, does anyone else have issues summoning others to help? I've only had one success in summoning someone. I tried opening ports and setting up a DMZ - but I keep failing summons. Suggestions?

Occasional problems.

Don't forget you can drop the whitestone to help and regain your humanity. I'd hate to see you go hollow!



I mean there is nothing wrong with being hollow, right? The only benefit to being alive is that people can join you or invade, correct? No need to be human if I can never summon help. I just keep getting invaded and griefed. It sucks.

Item drops, defence and curse resistance are significantly lower while hollow and certain events only happen while in one state or the other.  The constant invasions by people far more powerful than you will ease up once you get a little way beyond the Undead Parish or level up a bit.  A lot of assholes seem to keep extremely low level darkwraiths just to grief newbies.

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Humanity

Ahh thanks for the heads up. Any suggestions on my summoning failing? I'm playing on a PC.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 17, 2012, 06:39:03 PM
Sorry, but I can't really help with the summoning issues.  I have it for PS3 and haven't encountered many issues at all.

Apparently some people have had better luck with the following ports open:

TCP: 80, 443, 5223
UDP: 3478, 3479, 3658

Beyond that, all I can really suggest is going for white signs as they first appear.  If I understand correctly a single sign appears in more than one 'world' so maybe other players are just beating you there?  Also GFWL sucks balls, so you might just be one of the unlucky ones :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 17, 2012, 07:10:18 PM

Item drops, defence and curse resistance are significantly lower while hollow and certain events only happen while in one state or the other.  The constant invasions by people far more powerful than you will ease up once you get a little way beyond the Undead Parish or level up a bit.  A lot of assholes seem to keep extremely low level darkwraiths just to grief newbies.

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Humanity

To gain the effects of held humanity you need to be in human form? I thought human form as only really to engage in the multiplayer aspect. Otherwise being hollow was the way to go to help people and rack up humanity.

EDIT: I just googled around. Held humanity continues to give you benefits regardless of being hollow or human. I only go human when I need help with a boss (which is almost always).

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 17, 2012, 07:37:14 PM
I just want to be able to summon, etc. It's a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 17, 2012, 07:44:41 PM
It's probably not you.

A lot of people, myself included, have to attempt 823042834 summons before someone comes through because of the poor setup of the game's server structure.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Spider on December 17, 2012, 07:44:55 PM
There are many differences between human and hollow form. The main one mechanically being both having the ability to summon and also be invaded. Getting cursed in human form is also an instant kill.

To me the #1 difference is the role play. You will encounter various NPCs throughout the game, some human, some not. Some of these NPCs have different dialogues depending on your form. Do you choose to cling to your humanity, or let yourself fade deeper and deeper into insanity?

Way of White members are drawn closer to each other on the network, which results in a lower chance of invasions and an increased chance of co-op. Members of this covenant are followers of Gwyn, and seek to kindle bonfires in order to sustain the power of the gods(Dark Souls Wiki). Members(NPCs) of this Covenant are first seen in human form, some believed to be full human. You can only kindle when in human form.

The lore is cryptic enough throughout the game to draw many of your own conclusions, it's up to you how you wish to play it.

One of the fun things about being human, getting invaded, losing, and playing out that drive to stay human and kindle, is that it leaves you starving for humanity. Not only does this desperation give you drive to do certain things, perhaps join the Darkwraiths and steal other's humanity, but also punctuates the struggle in the world to maintain humanity.

Personally, I've always been a fan of the Forest Covenant. The PvP there is incredibly broken and has a very high percentage of loss. However, there is nothing like beating the pants off of a 3/4 v 1. To me, this shows the struggle those in the covenant have in protecting the forest. It's frantic, dangerous, and a practically futile endeavor.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 17, 2012, 08:21:19 PM
Spider,

That's insightful. In fact, I think the plot follows that.

SPOILERS...........

You either end up putting out the flame and issuing a new age, or you sacrifice yourself just to prolong the current "Age of Fire" which really isn't working out well :) Of course you could also argue that Kaathe is lying to you and something else is in store in the "Age of Dark." Nonetheless, your choice ultimately is about maintaining the cycle of the Undead trying to maintain their humanity or ending it.

END SPOILERS

I'm really hoping Dark Souls 2 has a more comprehensible story. It could have been told so much better.

EDIT:

Hilarious Dark Souls video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UdcKGWmZMs
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 18, 2012, 02:32:48 AM
Spider,

That's insightful. In fact, I think the plot follows that.

SPOILERS...........

You either end up putting out the flame and issuing a new age, or you sacrifice yourself just to prolong the current "Age of Fire" which really isn't working out well :) Of course you could also argue that Kaathe is lying to you and something else is in store in the "Age of Dark." Nonetheless, your choice ultimately is about maintaining the cycle of the Undead trying to maintain their humanity or ending it.

END SPOILERS

I'm really hoping Dark Souls 2 has a more comprehensible story. It could have been told so much better.

Eh, if you're looking for the story to beat you over the head with a conclusion... that's your preference.  And you're not a majority.

No matter which ending you pick, the good or evil you've done previously far outweighs that one choice.

And it's not Kaathe's goal that is good or bad, it's his methods, his game.  Even then, he's not all too significant.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 10:04:03 AM
I just googled around. Held humanity continues to give you benefits regardless of being hollow or human.

I have so much wasted humanity.  And in the game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 10:06:26 AM
Crazy video on parries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hrh94Dc-h0

I actually don't parry much at all. How many people here can parry as well as this guy? He even parries humanoid bosses.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 18, 2012, 10:07:08 AM
Has anyone been dabbling with Mech Warrior Online and if so is it worth jumping into?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 10:10:26 AM
Has anyone been dabbling with Mech Warrior Online and if so is it worth jumping into?

It lasted two days on my drive. Not a bad game but the team work would require me to go find a group of people playing it.

If you don't plan on subscribing or paying into microtransaction it can be grindy to get your first real mech up (outside of trial mechs which give you no experience).
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 10:18:36 AM
Crazy video on parries:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hrh94Dc-h0

I actually don't parry much at all. How many people here can parry as well as this guy? He even parries humanoid bosses.

I can generally pull off a parry about 70% of the time, or around 50% in PvP (it's a lot harder to judge the window for weapons you're not used to fighting against).  It's generally not worth it IMO.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 12:16:54 PM
To The Moon is $4.99 on GoG.com

Thinking of making it my first digital xmas purchase.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 18, 2012, 12:57:00 PM
Has anyone been dabbling with Mech Warrior Online and if so is it worth jumping into?

It will be after today.  They're removing a lot of the economy aspects, and you should essentially be able to buy any mech you want after 25 games, which is about maybe five to six hours of constant play.  Less time if you want something smaller than an assault.

PM me if you want to play a bit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 01:39:49 PM
Just a quick public service announcement: Do not under any circumstances fail to purchase The War Z.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/150fx4/the_warz_now_on_steamwith_no_mention_of_it_still/
http://warzscam.tumblr.com/
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3030652

Featuring microtransactions in a paid game, false advertising, faked screenshots, a plethora of bugs and performance issues, an eerie similarity to a failed f2p game, a forum that bans people for mentioning hackers and a legal agreement that contains the phrase "League of Legends" in at least one place, this pile of sunshine and rainbows is brought to you by the creators of Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing.

It also has awesome reflections.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/541820807510966684/9FFF9FEB91562090C7712E6C2653470014B7E92D/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 02:21:51 PM
I'm afraid to ask, they're hoping people buy it because it looks like DayZ or something?

Was this game greenlit and therefore on steam rippping people off?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on December 18, 2012, 02:26:12 PM
Just a quick public service announcement: Do not under any circumstances fail to purchase The War Z.

wait, so I should buy it?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 02:26:47 PM
Just a quick public service announcement: Do not under any circumstances fail to purchase The War Z.

wait, so I should buy it?

I think he means "fail" as in "epic fail"
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 02:29:13 PM
I'm afraid to ask, they're hoping people buy it because it looks like DayZ or something?

Was this game greenlit and therefore on steam rippping people off?

I'm fairly sure that was the intention (and, depressingly, have seen several threads on the Steam forums where people have mistaken this for the DayZ standalone).  It's just a really shitty alpha game that they decided to give a zombie makeover to at the last minute.

It wasn't greenlit though, Valve accepted them through the traditional route for some reason.

Just a quick public service announcement: Do not under any circumstances fail to purchase The War Z.

wait, so I should buy it?

I was going for a marketing parody.  Apparently this was a failure :'(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
LC does Mark of the Ninja require a controller on the PC or were you able to play it via the keyboard?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 02:54:23 PM
LC does Mark of the Ninja require a controller on the PC or were you able to play it via the keyboard?

I think it actually plays a little better with keyboard and mouse (not that it plays poorly with a controller), although it did take me a couple of minutes to get to grips with a few moves.  Klei Entertainment have always been very attentive to the PC market.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 18, 2012, 04:14:16 PM
Heart of the Swarm Beta access came with my pre-order. Yay!



Now to cancel the pre-order.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 18, 2012, 05:48:07 PM
Apparently huge amounts of art assets and code have been ripped straight from their failed War Inc game, which probably lends to it's terrible performance issues. The developers admitted to faking all the pre-release screenshots (well, they called them concept art) and they ban long-time players who they believe to be heavily invested in the game just so that they'll purchase it a second time.

When called out on their blatant lies on the Steam Store page, they... guess what... replied with more lies!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 05:51:45 PM
and they ban long-time players who they believe to be heavily invested in the game just so that they'll purchase it a second time.

Do you have a source on that?  It's not that I don't believe you, I'm just interested in reading more about it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 18, 2012, 05:56:07 PM
Holy shit. Did they increase the difficulty of Crusader Kings 2 with the new DLC?

Started with Kingdom of Leon - owned within the first 5 years by two civil wars, a hostile faction that is at 80% of my strength, and excommunicated and pwnt by another nation within the first 5 years.

Wow!

Last time I played, I created the Empire of Britannia without too much trouble.  :o
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 05:59:43 PM
CK2 got a bit easy once you learned to game some of the systems -- at least as a Christian Monarch. When I discovered using elections and just killing off or bribing my way to winning, everyone loved me because of the huge bonus you get. The only downside was holding onto all the King titles created too much animosity.

I'm interested in the new DLC if it wasn't for one thing. Once you "win" CK2 the game just goes on. So if you in two hundred years you attain a kingdom or two it gets meh. You're so powerful. Your underlings just need to be put in order every new succession and well.. things got boring.

Will certainly read up on the new factions mechanic :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 18, 2012, 06:32:14 PM
My Empire of Britannia game before the new DLCs got meh too, never finished it. However, I retired from my last game with three kingdom titles held because the game suddenly started to screw me over on succession. My new ruler was so unpopular for some reason that he got excommunicated TWICE in a row, didn't have enough time and money the second time to schmooze the pope, and then was run over both by England (which basically owned half of the land mass of Hispania in addition to Britannia) and repeated independence civil war factions. And boy, those independence factions can be a pain to beat down, especially if someone else has the fun idea to declare war on you at the same time. But hey, I lasted some 250 years and got a score of 29'000 with that game.

But being completely annihilated within the very first 5 years of playing Leon... that was hardcore.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 18, 2012, 06:44:25 PM
Oh, and Aztecs come in stacks of 100K. They didn't land in my territory, but the mayhem was fun to watch from afar  :P

They sacrifice rulers and stuff.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on December 18, 2012, 07:22:40 PM
I can't vote for Forsaken Fortress on Steam Greenlight.  :'(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 18, 2012, 07:26:53 PM
Oh, and Aztecs come in stacks of 100K. They didn't land in my territory, but the mayhem was fun to watch from afar  :P

They sacrifice rulers and stuff.

I'd so turn this DLC off or not even get it.

BTW, are you talking about the Republic expansion? Reading up on it now, sounds like it alters the game significantly.

EDIT: nevermind I think you're talking about "Legacy of Rome" DLC.

EDIT2: This is the upcoming expansion in 2013:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/12/08/crusader-kings-iis-next-expansion-announced-the-republic/


Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 18, 2012, 11:08:34 PM
Beta signups are open for the Magicka developer's next game.  It looks rather cool.

http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=cba3d17812a
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 19, 2012, 12:17:46 AM
-.-


Yeah it does, but click my link instead!

http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=4d390560dc8 (http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=4d390560dc8)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 19, 2012, 12:29:34 AM
-.-


Yeah it does, but click my link instead!

http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=4d390560dc8 (http://beta.theshowdowneffect.com/?ref=4d390560dc8)

Bitch :-*
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 19, 2012, 02:27:33 AM
I don't get why Borderlands 2 has less ammo drops and vendors, but all enemies seem to require twice as many bullets... grrr...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 19, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

So much derp.  I don't understand how this was the best explanation they managed to come up with.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 19, 2012, 04:51:15 AM
http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/the-war-z/1226980p1.html

So much derp.  I don't understand how this was the best explanation they managed to come up with.

Sounds like most "free to play" MMOs, although hilariously you have to actually buy the base game which is where I can see people getting mad.



Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 19, 2012, 05:15:59 AM
Oh gods, it gets even better.

Apparently a new patch forces players to either wait 4 hours upon death, or pay to revive immediately.  In a game you've already paid for.

Also, the ToS has a fantastic new addition.

Quote
ONCE YOU AGREE TO THIS TERMS OF SERVICE AND THE END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT FOR THE GAME (THE “EULA”) AND SERVICE FOR THE GAME COMMENCES, YOU WILL NO LONGER BE ELIGIBLE FOR A REFUND FOR ANY AMOUNTS OR OTHER CONSIDERATION PAID BY YOU FOR THE USE (OR FUTURE USE) OF THE GAME CLIENT OR THE SERVICE.

This being flat out illegal.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 19, 2012, 09:09:51 AM
Steam won't get involved. I highly doubt they want to get involved in this mess.

Worse case scenario they delist the game due to high number of complaints.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 19, 2012, 09:58:31 AM
You're probably right.

In other news it is my turn to GM next in my tabletop group and I'm basing the campaign around Dark Souls.  I'm currently torn between a post age of fire setting, game-period darkwraiths, or a more traditional campaign involving an escape from Seath's prison.  Any awesome suggestions would be appreciated :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on December 19, 2012, 11:59:11 AM
gog.com has a bunch of games on sale for their holiday sale.  I just picked up Witcher 2 for $7.50 and also picked up the Might and Magic pack.  One heck of a steal there.  Only has like 20 hours left on it though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 19, 2012, 12:19:41 PM
Is it just me or does Borderlands 2 have very inaccurate weapons compared to Borderlands? The sway on many of these guns makes it impossible to aim and shoot.

I'm only level 10 and not impressed :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 19, 2012, 10:46:59 PM
I guess Valve got sick of the complaints:

http://www.joystiq.com/2012/12/19/the-war-z-removed-from-steam/

EDIT:

And in other news:

http://www.examiner.com/article/new-dark-souls-ii-details-outlined-edge-interview

More accessible, and the possibility of a tutorial to begin with (limiting options until the player is ready).

Also it's prettier.

Will take place in a different world that's "connected" to Dark Souls.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: LauraMars on December 20, 2012, 03:37:12 AM
I love saints row the third
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 20, 2012, 04:28:35 AM
I played an Arma II mission with bcw81 and we learned the hard way how bad he is as a gunner!

Our humvee was rolling through a small town filled with civilians, taking sporadic fire from the surrounding hills, when all of the sudden, a machine gun lights us up from straight down the road. Four guys are laying there in the middle of the road not even 40 feet away shooting at us, while I'm shouting at Skype and bcw81 spins the turret around aimlessly until he dies.

Should have just ran them over.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on December 20, 2012, 10:30:43 AM
I was aiming for the tits coming down over the mountain with the RPG, you jackass. I feel like they had priority.

I'll drive next time, if you want to understand how bad the FoV is in that gun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on December 20, 2012, 11:14:56 AM
(https://downloads.2kgames.com/borderlands2/endoftheworldapp2/Media/Images/Confessions/char3_topic4_burn1.jpg)

Been having fun with this one...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 20, 2012, 01:04:08 PM
steam xmas sale is officially ON!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 20, 2012, 01:23:33 PM
http://www.examiner.com/article/new-dark-souls-ii-details-outlined-edge-interview

More accessible, and the possibility of a tutorial to begin with (limiting options until the player is ready).

Also it's prettier.

Will take place in a different world that's "connected" to Dark Souls.

Hmmm.  It's hard to really be against the inclusion of a tutorial without sounding like an elitist jackass, but I really fucking detest hand holdy introductions/games that limit your options for no real reason.  I hope it's either possible to skip the tutorial or at the very least it takes under half an hour.  The Souls games have always drawn me in for multiple playthroughs.   Are the mechanics actually that difficult to grasp?  They always seemed about as intuitive and tight as it's possible to get to me, which makes me a little worried about it being 'more accessible'.  That could either mean being more up front about features like covenants and humanity (no thanks, I really enjoyed the uncertainty and entire process of slowly figuring this stuff out), a decrease in difficulty (this would go down exceedingly poorly with at least 90% of the fanbase, me included), or a more exposition heavy method of storytelling (this would take away my favourite thing about the series).  Colour me concerned.

Prettier is always nice though.

steam xmas sale is officially ON!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on December 20, 2012, 01:32:18 PM
So Everquest, my first MMO addiction 10+ years ago, is now free to play to some extent. Only four and four classes unlocked to start, with just about everything else being pay-to-unlock (including trolls  :'(). It's amusing working my way through the newbie zones, seeing how they've made things easier on the lowbies. You can actually win 1v1 fights against the occasional yellow, now. As a warrior, even! And HP doesn't regenerate at a flat 2hp/10 seconds or whatever it was, which back in the day meant you'd spent a half hour resting after fighting off that ravenous bunny rabbit.

Was surprised to see that there was a Roleplaying server still up, though I never played on it back in the day. Given that the first character I saw was a troll shadowknight named Stinkee Pete, I think it's safe to assume that the caliber of EQ roleplaying is still the gold standard.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on December 20, 2012, 01:38:33 PM
The new Humble Bundle is out:

http://www.humblebundle.com/

Not as epic as the last one, but still decent enough for a few good games!

You also get Indie: The Movie

Great watch if you were still thinking about making a living as a game developer. This movie will make you realize that becoming an accountant like your mum always wanted you to be wasn't such a bad idea after all.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on December 20, 2012, 01:41:28 PM
You're probably right.

In other news it is my turn to GM next in my tabletop group and I'm basing the campaign around Dark Souls.  I'm currently torn between a post age of fire setting, game-period darkwraiths, or a more traditional campaign involving an escape from Seath's prison.  Any awesome suggestions would be appreciated :)

I thought of this first!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Synthesis on December 20, 2012, 01:46:06 PM
While we're on the subject of old games that make us happy: I still play this today, and it's ancient. BEST GAME EVER.

(http://petras.šukys.lt/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2211157769_f76a4f39c4.jpg)

What is that, Space Empires?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on December 20, 2012, 01:48:26 PM
Masters of Orion II. A good game, even if those Psionics are cheating, passive-aggressive assholes. Get to research every tech faster, pah... it felt so good when I suckered there 90 ship super-shielded fleet into a nebula, crashing the shields and then obliterating them with my own, much larger and much cheaper fleet.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 20, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
I should play Masters of Orion 2. I've never gotten around to it. I'm a fan of Turn Based Strategy. RTS all-time favorite: Mechcommander.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on December 20, 2012, 01:52:19 PM
I bought it for cheap on GoG last year for like $10. Will probably play a few games when I go home for the holiday (assuming my folks haven't wrecked my PC). Wonder if the multiplayer is still functional.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 20, 2012, 01:55:55 PM
Masters of Orion II. A good game, even if those Psionics are cheating, passive-aggressive assholes. Get to research every tech faster, pah... it felt so good when I suckered there 90 ship super-shielded fleet into a nebula, crashing the shields and then obliterating them with my own, much larger and much cheaper fleet.

The psionics race isn't the one who researches every tech faster. The psilons do that, they research every single single of the 3 offered research options on every step and than can use those techs to trade with other races. But they have no psionic abilities. The ones you probably mean are the Elerians, whose mind control takes over planets without needing to send ground troops down.
 
Also love how you can design your own ships.

And I'll wreck BadSkeelz' PC if he doesn't log into Arm. The holidays are making me feel all alone in the Known. >:(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on December 20, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Steam Sales are now online.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on December 20, 2012, 02:12:44 PM
Masters of Orion II. A good game, even if those Psionics are cheating, passive-aggressive assholes. Get to research every tech faster, pah... it felt so good when I suckered there 90 ship super-shielded fleet into a nebula, crashing the shields and then obliterating them with my own, much larger and much cheaper fleet.

The psionics race isn't the one who researches every tech faster. The psilons do that, they research every single single of the 3 offered research options on every step and than can use those techs to trade with other races. But they have no psionic abilities. The ones you probably mean are the Elerians, whose mind control takes over planets without needing to send ground troops down.
 
Also love how you can design your own ships.

And I'll wreck BadSkeelz' PC if he doesn't log into Arm. The holidays are making me feel all alone in the Known. >:(

I did in fact mean Psilons. The "research every tech in a category" is the most powerful racial stat in the game, IMO. I remember my games fighting them more than any others. Sometimes it got downright Lensman as we just started blowing up each others planets, seeing who could wipe out the other half of the galaxy first. Of course, if you arm your ships solely with neutron weapons like I typically do, it's possible to turn a Psilon fleet into a smorgasbord of easily caputrable, tech rich ships very quickly.

The Elerians actually have the poorest track record of all the races in my games. So bad in fact that I don't think I've ever even seen the "mindcontrol a planet" ability demonstrated. They're little more than a speed bump whenever I'm starting in their neighborhood.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on December 20, 2012, 02:15:05 PM
Steam makes me realize that I have a ratio of 1 game played for every 10 games bought and, even worse, probably a ratio of 1 game finished for every 25 games bought  (and that's being highly generous) :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 20, 2012, 02:23:52 PM
Master of Orion 2 I think.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marc on December 20, 2012, 02:25:16 PM
In addition to the Steam sale, Amazon is offering a bunch of sale items too.  Most seem to be steam codes!

Take a gander!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ami on December 20, 2012, 02:42:35 PM
In addition to the Steam sale, Amazon is offering a bunch of sale items too.  Most seem to be steam codes!

Take a gander!

Only if you are from over in USA.  :P
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 20, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
In addition to the Steam sale, Amazon is offering a bunch of sale items too.  Most seem to be steam codes!

Take a gander!

Only if you are from over in USA.  :P

Just change your address to a US one.  I've ordered loads of digitally distributed games from the White House.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cutthroat on December 20, 2012, 04:13:41 PM
I picked up the Crusader Kings II DLCs plus Counter-Strike: Global Offensive today on Steam. My Steam handle is cut__throat (2 underscores) if you want to play CS:GO with me, and maybe also CKII once I get the hang of it again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 20, 2012, 04:52:49 PM
The battle.net account recovery bullshit continues!

I submitted yet another recovery request with my photo ID to get my account recovered last night. I got an email this morning asking me to either submit my photo ID via the ticket process or call the support line. Here's the problem...

1. To submit an actual support ticket, you have to log-in to your battle.net account... FOR SOME STUPID FUCKING REASON. There are even categories like "I can't log in!" which then require you to LOG THE FUCK IN TO SEND THE TICKET HOW DOES THAT EVEN MAKE SENSE.

2. I called the support number and navigated through the robot menus only to get an automated message telling me that Phone Support systems are currently experiencing difficulty and they will be unable to assist me. They recommend submitting a support ticket via Battle.net! Dear Blizzard: Eat a thousand dicks. I am so sick of this shit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on December 20, 2012, 05:08:59 PM
Steam makes me realize that I have a ratio of 1 game played for every 10 games bought and, even worse, probably a ratio of 1 game finished for every 25 games bought  (and that's being highly generous) :-\

This baffles me...why do you buy them if you never play them? Do you think, Yhea, this looks awesome! *Click click* OOOHH...That looks awesome! *click click* Or do you buy games as recommended by friends?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on December 20, 2012, 05:11:16 PM
In other news it is my turn to GM next in my tabletop group and I'm basing the campaign around Dark Souls.  I'm currently torn between a post age of fire setting, game-period darkwraiths, or a more traditional campaign involving an escape from Seath's prison.  Any awesome suggestions would be appreciated :)

Here's a link to a few videos with thoughts on the Dark Souls story :

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4825DBA198EBE9B9 (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4825DBA198EBE9B9)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 20, 2012, 05:26:13 PM
Steam makes me realize that I have a ratio of 1 game played for every 10 games bought and, even worse, probably a ratio of 1 game finished for every 25 games bought  (and that's being highly generous) :-\

This baffles me...why do you buy them if you never play them? Do you think, Yhea, this looks awesome! *Click click* OOOHH...That looks awesome! *click click* Or do you buy games as recommended by friends?

I'm in much the same situation as Malken.  I often buy stupid amounts of games when they're on sale because 'I'll play them one day, might as well grab them while they're cheap', I've also bought more than a few games I can't actually run, because some day I will have a better PC.  Then there are the indie games that I'll never ever get around to playing, but have a few brilliant ideas that make me want to give the devs money just for being able to realise them.  Very rarely I'll impulse buy something before realising I have very little interest in the game, or it isn't quite what I thought it was.

In other news it is my turn to GM next in my tabletop group and I'm basing the campaign around Dark Souls.  I'm currently torn between a post age of fire setting, game-period darkwraiths, or a more traditional campaign involving an escape from Seath's prison.  Any awesome suggestions would be appreciated :)

Here's a link to a few videos with thoughts on the Dark Souls story :

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4825DBA198EBE9B9 (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL4825DBA198EBE9B9)

Enjoy!

These seem well made and really quite interesting.  Thanks for the link, I'm sure it'll help :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on December 20, 2012, 05:30:39 PM
Steam makes me realize that I have a ratio of 1 game played for every 10 games bought and, even worse, probably a ratio of 1 game finished for every 25 games bought  (and that's being highly generous) :-\

This baffles me...why do you buy them if you never play them? Do you think, Yhea, this looks awesome! *Click click* OOOHH...That looks awesome! *click click* Or do you buy games as recommended by friends?


First of all, I don't have any friends, so no.

Second, money is not really a problem for me so I tend to buy pretty much anything that is on sale on Steam, because, one day, I -might- have the time to play it all, who knows! :)

All of my favorite games are older games, so it's not like I'm buying brand new games at 60$ a pop.. I bought Assassin's Creed 3 because I love American history but that's pretty much it in the brand new game category that I can think of.. I also bought Chivalry but that was sorta cheap.. I didn't play much of it, though. Same with Black Ops 2, I bought it brand new but that's the kind of game I like to play with my brother-in-law when they come visit.

I buy all of the humble bundles for the charity and they usually come with a lot of games.. I play a lot of games like once or twice then I get bored with them.. Unfortunately, I can't just give them away because they're all on Steam. Also, I wouldn't give them away anyway because I'm a selfish prick.

I guess it's probably the same reason why I still buy NES, SNES and Genesis games when I find them.. I just like games?

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 20, 2012, 05:41:34 PM
Other than Ireland what's an interesting place to start in CK2?

I'm not looking for overpowered or hopeless.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 20, 2012, 06:13:26 PM
Other than Ireland what's an interesting place to start in CK2?

I'm not looking for overpowered or hopeless.

Spain is pretty much my default these days.  Lots of little Kingdoms and a fair number of both Catholic and Islamic (Sunni?) rulers can make it a real powder keg from the start.  If that goes well you can create the Empire of Hispania, then either start working your way down through Africa or launch a full scale invasion of France.  I generally go for the latter because after around half a decade spent consolidating your position and building up troops you should be in the perfect position to invade the HRE (if you wait until they break down into one of their frequent clusterfucks), while being just small enough for this to be an available option.  Unfortunately there is little point in continuing the game at this point, you've basically won it.

Another favourite for when I fancy a bigger challenge is Jerusalem, starting in 1099.  Make sure to use the Holy Orders as much as possible.

I also find it pretty fun to pick a random English Count or Duke and be a Good Guy Vassal.  Never attempt to gain independence or do anything to harm or weaken your liege.  Gaining power slowly through supporting your liege in their wars and marriage/politics gives the game a totally different feel.

E: Oh, and the Kingdom of Poland.  You're an unmarried King, in your twenties, and are called The Bold.  Your brother is sickly and you are his heir.  You begin with a few claimable territories, there are Pagans to the north, and there is a certain Duke who seems to revolt in every playthrough.  I'd recommend this one if you've been playing mostly in Ireland.  It's a nice jump up to the next level, without being too difficult/confusing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on December 20, 2012, 06:16:31 PM
Steam makes me realize that I have a ratio of 1 game played for every 10 games bought and, even worse, probably a ratio of 1 game finished for every 25 games bought  (and that's being highly generous) :-\

This baffles me...why do you buy them if you never play them? Do you think, Yhea, this looks awesome! *Click click* OOOHH...That looks awesome! *click click* Or do you buy games as recommended by friends?


First of all, I don't have any friends, so no.

Second, money is not really a problem for me so I tend to buy pretty much anything that is on sale on Steam, because, one day, I -might- have the time to play it all, who knows! :)

All of my favorite games are older games, so it's not like I'm buying brand new games at 60$ a pop.. I bought Assassin's Creed 3 because I love American history but that's pretty much it in the brand new game category that I can think of.. I also bought Chivalry but that was sorta cheap.. I didn't play much of it, though. Same with Black Ops 2, I bought it brand new but that's the kind of game I like to play with my brother-in-law when they come visit.

I buy all of the humble bundles for the charity and they usually come with a lot of games.. I play a lot of games like once or twice then I get bored with them.. Unfortunately, I can't just give them away because they're all on Steam. Also, I wouldn't give them away anyway because I'm a selfish prick.

I guess it's probably the same reason why I still buy NES, SNES and Genesis games when I find them.. I just like games?

That's fair enough, sorry if it seemed like I was being trollish, I was just curious. I don't really buy new games all that much as money's always tight with me, so I always make sure I'll like a game before I buy it. If I had the money to, I'd probably end up with half the steam catalogue and never play them. I have 7 games on my steam account at the moment, 3 of which LC was awesome enough to gift me.

I buy myself a new game once a year, this year was Borderlands 2 for my x-box, and a buddy brought me the season ticket...I'm currently waiting for a response from Gearbox because I can't play it online at the moment as for some reason, the compatibility patch  won't patch my x-box, and I'm stuck on system link because of it.

I still have a lot of my old consoles too, the oldest of which is my STILL WORKING Commodore 64, sadly, my old man has it at the moment though. My dreamcast still gets a lot of regular use though, it's better playing the old games on the consoles they were designed for.

What's your favorite SNES game?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on December 20, 2012, 07:06:31 PM
What's your favorite SNES game?

No, not trollish at all :) I just don't spend a lot on hookers and booze, I don't have any kids and gaming is probably what I spend most of my money on, so that's why it seems like I have a lot, but with many bundles and Steam games at less than 10$ each if you can wait for them, spending $50 every two weeks for a year makes it seem like you have a lot of games in the end..

My favorite SNES game is probably an unknown game to many, but it's called Inindo: Way of the Ninja

It's an RPG set in Japan where your goal is to kill Nobunaga who destroyed your village. You play a ninja, and most of the game is just your typical SNES rpg-like game, but there's a few twists to it, where you get to hire other PCs to join you, like Samurais, mystics, ronins, etc.. And you have this strategic map where at some point you need to hire ninjas and send them on missions to free up the states that surrounds where Nobunaga hides. Very advanced gameplay for its time.

It's a very hard rpg where you need to twink up your ninja character like mad before each miniboss, so you spend a lot of time training up in dungeons and get your levels up.

That game is from Koei, and, strangely enough, ROTK is also a Koei game :) Koei is probably my favorite game company, to be honest.. So any games from them, starting with the NES, are all on my list of favorites.

I also really like Actraiser, where you play a God and had to answer people's prayers and then protect them in a sidescrolling type of game, so you had strategy + action all in one.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 20, 2012, 07:53:41 PM
I like the faction system now. There's time to send out your spymaster to deal with things, or find other ways to deal with the threat.

I always make sure all my heirs are married to a someone with high intrigue.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cind on December 20, 2012, 08:27:15 PM
Downloading Sims 3.

I guess bandwidth is expensive enough to deter my parents from getting any, so I might be able to start playing it in about five days.

But I'm a huge fan and I've got several expansion packs and I'm excited to play god again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 20, 2012, 08:45:52 PM
Quick question about the faction system.

Some airhead earl wants to put the King of Scotland as the King of Ireland (me). I'm dealing with it...


but how do I do the same thing in another kingdom? :) Do I need a claim first?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 20, 2012, 11:12:00 PM
Sorry, I'm yet to bother learning about the faction system.

Is Fable 3 any good?  I enjoyed 1 and 2, but vaguely remember hearing bad things about 3.  Might have just been the usual Molyneux hype backlash though.

E: The THQ Collection is a ridiculously good deal.  Over 20 AAA games for £20.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 21, 2012, 11:15:29 AM
Did you get Fable 3? Any good?

"I Am Alive" is up for only $5. Going to grab it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 21, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
Yeah, snapped it up at the last moment.  Doubt I'll have chance to play it before Sunday though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 21, 2012, 01:18:06 PM
If you can stomach 1 and 2 I see no reason why you couldn't fit another turd down there with'm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 21, 2012, 01:31:13 PM
Dishonored is now at 50%. Was 75% yesterday.

At $30 I may just get it :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Harmless on December 21, 2012, 03:43:25 PM
Masters of Orion II looks good! I've played some of the "newer" 4X space strategy games (sword of the stars etc) and this one, though not the prettiest, looks really functional. Plus, it has TURN based tactical combat (yay!)

now how do I get it? hmm..
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 21, 2012, 04:01:26 PM
Masters of Orion II looks good! I've played some of the "newer" 4X space strategy games (sword of the stars etc) and this one, though not the prettiest, looks really functional. Plus, it has TURN based tactical combat (yay!)

now how do I get it? hmm..

www.gog.com  ;)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Harmless on December 21, 2012, 06:15:50 PM

now how do I get it? hmm..

www.gog.com  ;)

bought. for 3 bux.

BTW, here's my chance to thank somebody in here for recommending dungeon crawl stone soup or whatever. It's a great time waster, the autoexplore feature takes a lot of the work out of my nethacking ;)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on December 22, 2012, 05:15:16 AM
Despite all the negative reviews, I'm enjoying Lucius. If you don't mind playing as a six year old killer fathered by Satan, give it a try.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on December 22, 2012, 06:24:24 AM
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1675907842/pathfinder-online-a-fantasy-sandbox-mmo

Pathfinder MMO? Set in the River Kingdoms.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marc on December 22, 2012, 09:17:09 AM
For another hour and a half, Steam has "The Sims 3" for $10.  $10.19 actually.

Pretty darn cheap for the EA flagship
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 22, 2012, 10:02:59 AM
For another hour and a half, Steam has "The Sims 3" for $10.  $10.19 actually.

Pretty darn cheap for the EA flagship

No, not really :)

It is EA after all.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 22, 2012, 10:59:03 AM
For another hour and a half, Steam has "The Sims 3" for $10.  $10.19 actually.

Pretty darn cheap for the EA flagship

Is that with or without the 1001 expansions? They probably want you to spend 200 bucks on those.  :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marc on December 22, 2012, 01:07:55 PM
For another hour and a half, Steam has "The Sims 3" for $10.  $10.19 actually.

Pretty darn cheap for the EA flagship

Is that with or without the 1001 expansions? They probably want you to spend 200 bucks on those.  :D

Just the base game, ofc.

All the expansions/stuff-packs/etc were 50-66% off too.  Sale is over now though :-(

Not -cheap- by any means, but Sims crap never seems to go on sale.  It's the best deal on the base game I've seen in so I picked it up along with a couple expansions \o/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 22, 2012, 10:46:57 PM
Masters of Orion II looks good! I've played some of the "newer" 4X space strategy games (sword of the stars etc) and this one, though not the prettiest, looks really functional. Plus, it has TURN based tactical combat (yay!)

now how do I get it? hmm..

www.gog.com  ;)

Thus is awesome!! Going to get Witcher II for 12 bucks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 22, 2012, 11:26:46 PM
http://www.gamersgate.co.uk/DD-CARCOC/cargo-commander

It's a pretty great platformer, and at 98% off this is probably the time to grab it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 22, 2012, 11:52:09 PM
I finally got my b.net account fixed and logged into WoW for the first time in years to check out my old paladin.

I saw they had a new ability called Burden of Guilt that slows enemies down. I remembered a thread I made a few years ago (http://www.retpaladin.com/warcraft/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3302&p=23641) and now I'm pretending I had something to do with it, however unrealistic that may be.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on December 23, 2012, 03:13:56 AM
gimme ur btag
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 23, 2012, 02:12:06 PM
Chivalry Medieval Warfare is on sale for only $12 on steam right now.

EDIT: Best $12 bucks spent. The game is insanely good. Lots of screaming from the medieval soldiers as they run around hacking at each other. Need to figure out how to rebind keys since in the game menu seems broken. Otherwise, I highly recommend this game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 23, 2012, 11:16:30 PM
I'm trying to find a decent FTP game. Everquest is a no go on my PC for some reason. I'll let ya guys know.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 24, 2012, 03:44:20 AM
What is a FTP game?  ???
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on December 24, 2012, 05:41:07 AM
Free to Play.

Might always try Armageddo- Ohwait.

Uhm... Blacklight: Retribution is a pretty fun FTP FPS, though, when I say FTP, I mean Microtransactions, but you don't actually -have- to do that. You can get credit in game. It just takes foreverlong.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 24, 2012, 07:30:00 AM
Apparently you can commit suicide in CK2 if your character gets the depressed trait.  This causes your successor to gain the stressed trait :o

I'm trying to find a decent FTP game. Everquest is a no go on my PC for some reason. I'll let ya guys know.

What is your preferred genre?  I could probably suggest a few if you'd like.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 24, 2012, 08:38:18 AM
Thinking about starting up on Everquest again. I started playing that shortly after getting into Ultima Online, it was the first MMORPG that really got its hooks into me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 24, 2012, 09:21:53 AM
I tried Dragon Nest, some Nexon game... it's "okay". I'd probably prefer a top-down 2D game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 24, 2012, 10:58:55 AM
When I looked at EQ, I kind of got an old urge to play DAoC again. So, I'm going to re-activate one of my old accounts and play a little bit. Should be fun. We'll see.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 24, 2012, 03:04:14 PM
I'm trying to find a decent FTP game. Everquest is a no go on my PC for some reason. I'll let ya guys know.

I haven't tried it but I hear Star Trek Online is f2p done right.

EDIT: Chivalry Medieival Warfare is still at $12 on Steam. Having a real hard time putting it down :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 24, 2012, 04:13:44 PM
Thinking about starting up on Everquest again. I started playing that shortly after getting into Ultima Online, it was the first MMORPG that really got its hooks into me.

Everquest with all its expansions was mutated and warped beyond recognition. They even allowed healer bot NPCs at some point. There is however a free oldschool EQ server named project 1999? I think.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Orin on December 24, 2012, 05:44:04 PM
I've got two DOTA2 invites left.  Who wants them? PM me your steam id or email.

Ho ho ho, happy festivus.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on December 24, 2012, 07:37:26 PM
Every time I finally unite Ireland into a Kingdom, my shithead son inherits it and some heirless bitch-cow queen forms a faction to seize the nation. And succeeds. And then I lose. EVERY TIME.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 24, 2012, 08:49:30 PM
Every time I finally unite Ireland into a Kingdom, my shithead son inherits it and some heirless bitch-cow queen forms a faction to seize the nation. And succeeds. And then I lose. EVERY TIME.

I never found  Ireland so bad.

Did you use your spymaster to discourage the queen from joining a faction? You set the spymaster to "scheme" wherever the person resides and eventually they either come up with legalese or blackmail to encourage the person to leave the faction.

In my last game I invaded France from the Empire of Hispania. Now I have the lovely task of not only putting down a local independence faction, but also dealing with new nobles I was unable to seize the holdings off because I had to call my invasion early and sue to keep them.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on December 24, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
The Witcher 2 has been rather amazing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 25, 2012, 01:03:28 AM
My days work:

(http://i.imgur.com/opUEl.jpg)

And the level of bullshit I have to deal with by taking France is incredible.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on December 25, 2012, 03:15:55 AM
I'm trying to find a decent FTP game. Everquest is a no go on my PC for some reason. I'll let ya guys know.

D&D: Online was pretty addictive for me, for awhile. Mixture of free to play and pay to play content, but you're also able to earn (albeit with mind-numbing grinding and quest re-running on harder difficulties) or unlock pay to play content.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 25, 2012, 03:42:16 AM
I have a shitty computer.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on December 25, 2012, 04:11:18 AM
The Witcher 2 has been rather amazing.

Witcher 2 was awesome, however it suffered from the lack of a neutral path (which existed in the first game). I couldn't decide which side to join and quit in frustration.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 25, 2012, 11:52:29 AM
It seems the world has ended on Steam. About 90% of my owned games have disappered from my library, though they still count as owned (tested this by trying to buy Skyrim again, gave me the message that I already own it).

Support server seems to be down, as well.

Is anyone else having issues?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 25, 2012, 12:20:45 PM
I'm not, but others are.  Some of their servers are probably just overloaded with the Christmas traffic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 25, 2012, 12:23:14 PM
Yay Sophie got me Halo 4 I'm so grateful!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 25, 2012, 12:23:56 PM
I'm not, but others are.  Some of their servers are probably just overloaded with the Christmas traffic.

And that causes the library to not show 90% of games? Odd.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on December 25, 2012, 12:58:14 PM
Thinking about starting up on Everquest again. I started playing that shortly after getting into Ultima Online, it was the first MMORPG that really got its hooks into me.

Everquest with all its expansions was mutated and warped beyond recognition. They even allowed healer bot NPCs at some point. There is however a free oldschool EQ server named project 1999? I think.

It's a fun time sync. I'm going to start in on it for like a month and see what's up. Could be fun.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 25, 2012, 01:20:30 PM
By the way... for all those of you annoyed by the unrealistic, simplistic and not very challenging scaling system in Skyrim:

I just found a very neat mod named Requiem on Skyrim Nexus. Just like Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul, it turns the whole world (NPCs and loot) static, with bosses and more difficult dungeons offering greater rewards (even for a low level character if you somehow manage to survive). No more bandits mass dropping ebon weapons nonsense. Perks, skills, items and magic were also overhauled. Surviving as a low level character will be more challenging and the whole gameplay should be more interesting. No more need to turn difficulty to 'expert' for a bit of lame, only number-based challenge. Can't wait to try it out.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on December 25, 2012, 03:12:23 PM
Just got an iPad for Christmas so I can get my long distance arm on. What do you lovely folk use for iOS mudding?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 25, 2012, 07:07:40 PM
I'm not, but others are.  Some of their servers are probably just overloaded with the Christmas traffic.

And that causes the library to not show 90% of games? Odd.

The 10% probably have no DRM enabled.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 25, 2012, 07:56:48 PM
Gonna try masters of Orion 2 tonight!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 25, 2012, 11:44:11 PM
In CK2, does anyone use their diplomat for things other than:

(1) Fabricate Claim.
(2) Parked in Rome chatting up the Pope for influence.

That's all I've been using so far.

BTW, if you have not bought Crusader Kings 2 you really need to. I just checked and I'm nearing 200 hours played according to Steam.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on December 26, 2012, 12:06:16 AM
In CK2, does anyone use their diplomat for things other than:

(1) Fabricate Claim.
(2) Parked in Rome chatting up the Pope for influence.

That's all I've been using so far.

BTW, if you have not bought Crusader Kings 2 you really need to. I just checked and I'm nearing 200 hours played according to Steam.

Nope. Chancellors are only good for that.

What I'd like to know is why anyone would aim to give their ruler anything but Grey Imminence. High diplomacy is just too good to pass up in my opinion.

I've got around 150 hours on it myself.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 26, 2012, 12:59:46 AM

What I'd like to know is why anyone would aim to give their ruler anything but Grey Imminence. High diplomacy is just too good to pass up in my opinion.

High martial is useful. I've beaten armies twice  the size of mine with my ruler as a general and two others. They've made it matter in the Legacy of Rome DLC.

I agree though, Grey Imminence is mostly what's sought after. I tend to use the new ambition system too to even out any low points up to 8.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Spider on December 26, 2012, 01:12:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYLIXcH201I (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYLIXcH201I)

For those Dark Souls PvPers who enjoy the all out war that is being in the Forest Covenant...

Here's to walking in another's pair of shoes. Enjoy!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on December 26, 2012, 01:32:39 AM

What I'd like to know is why anyone would aim to give their ruler anything but Grey Imminence. High diplomacy is just too good to pass up in my opinion.

High martial is useful. I've beaten armies twice  the size of mine with my ruler as a general and two others. They've made it matter in the Legacy of Rome DLC.

I agree though, Grey Imminence is mostly what's sought after. I tend to use the new ambition system too to even out any low points up to 8.



I will get this DLC and try that out then. It was always just a number game before.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 26, 2012, 04:55:25 AM
In CK2, does anyone use their diplomat for things other than:

(1) Fabricate Claim.
(2) Parked in Rome chatting up the Pope for influence.

That's all I've been using so far.

BTW, if you have not bought Crusader Kings 2 you really need to. I just checked and I'm nearing 200 hours played according to Steam.

I use my chancellor to chat up vassals that hate me and improve their opinion of me. Does sending the chancellor to the pope actually work? I always send my bishop to the pope, rather than the chancellor, which works very well.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 26, 2012, 10:09:36 AM
In CK2, does anyone use their diplomat for things other than:

(1) Fabricate Claim.
(2) Parked in Rome chatting up the Pope for influence.

That's all I've been using so far.

BTW, if you have not bought Crusader Kings 2 you really need to. I just checked and I'm nearing 200 hours played according to Steam.

I use my chancellor to chat up vassals that hate me and improve their opinion of me. Does sending the chancellor to the pope actually work? I always send my bishop to the pope, rather than the chancellor, which works very well.

Yes. If you have a really good chancellor you get a very high bonus to relations with him.

What does your Bishop do in Rome?

EDIT: And as far as I have seen, moving your Chancellor out of a county after this mission makes the relationship bonus go away. So you clearly want him to focus on one person, stay there, and not leave until you no longer need the improved relations. In the case of Rome, it helps avoid Excommunication unless I have a good relationship with the Pope to begin with :)


Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 26, 2012, 11:05:26 AM
I dunno. Using my bishop councillor always seems to improve relations with the pope faster than if I used the chancellor.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 26, 2012, 12:23:36 PM
I've been playing a fair bit of Drox Operative (http://www.soldak.com/Drox-Operative/Overview.html) lately.  It's one of the few ARPGs I've ever enjoyed.  You have an extremely upgradeable spaceship and start in a section of the universe generated according to your specifications (number of civilizations, how advanced they are, 'monster' strength, size etc).  You are given no instructions whatsoever other than a list of victory conditions that range from defeating all but one empire and then allying with them, creating a diplomatic coalition, becoming a legend (running missions for the various empires, defeating large threats to them etc), making a shit load of cash, to making every empire utterly fear you.

Empires expand on their own, fighting 'monsters' and each other depending on their nature and current views of each other.  You can influence this through propaganda, espionage, sabotage and spreading rumours.  You can try to pick the winning side and ensure their quick victory, attempt to engineer a state of equilibrium, or just flat out ignore them for the most part.  It is good and deserves your money.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on December 26, 2012, 01:00:26 PM
I finally finished my evil playthrough of Planescape: Torment today.

.. I feel like such an enormous bastard it's unbelievable.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: solera on December 26, 2012, 01:31:55 PM
I finally finished my evil playthrough of Planescape: Torment today.

.. I feel like such an enormous bastard it's unbelievable.

A game that's on my list of "must play some day"
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 26, 2012, 03:29:46 PM
I dunno. Using my bishop councillor always seems to improve relations with the pope faster than if I used the chancellor.

I think we're talking about the same thing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 26, 2012, 05:16:02 PM
Just finished Dishonored and had the "good" ending, with low chaos. I didn't get my achieves for not killing anyone because one or two missions seem to always give killed even if I knock the target unconscious. Oh well.

It wasn't so short -- Steam shows 19 hours played. I took my time making sure I picked all rewards, and the sidequests on each map.

I liked the morality system, and how it played into the main theme.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on December 26, 2012, 07:12:58 PM
After buying half a dozen games.

Why is DarkSouls the only one I want to play?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 26, 2012, 08:22:25 PM
After buying half a dozen games.

Why is DarkSouls the only one I want to play?

It's very rewarding.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 26, 2012, 09:54:13 PM
Master of Orion 2 is kicking my ass. I really like this game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on December 27, 2012, 12:46:25 AM
I finally finished my evil playthrough of Planescape: Torment today.

.. I feel like such an enormous bastard it's unbelievable.

I can't do evil in that game, I feel like too much of a shit. It's about the only game where playing good doesn't make me feel like an idiot.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on December 27, 2012, 01:55:30 AM
I finally finished my evil playthrough of Planescape: Torment today.

.. I feel like such an enormous bastard it's unbelievable.

I can't do evil in that game, I feel like too much of a shit. It's about the only game where playing good doesn't make me feel like an idiot.

An RPG with an alignment system is a good one when the evil acts you commit really -do- make you feel like some kind of bastard.

Try playing Jade Empire sometime. The choices are equally atrocious, but now they have actual voice actors to go along with them.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 27, 2012, 02:35:58 AM
Master of Orion 2 is kicking my ass. I really like this game.

Make sure you design your ships, because if you don't, they will suck. It's an option that can easily be overlooked. Protip: In the early stages of the game, a full loadout of missiles is best, because beam weapons will just be inaccurate and their damage will suck.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on December 27, 2012, 08:17:47 AM
Today's deal at GOG.com  http://www.gog.com/promo/dungeons___dragons_deal  --  Seriously an amazing bundle of games if you like Baulder's Gate, Planescape, etc.

Edit:  Just noticed this deal is up in about an hour and a half!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on December 27, 2012, 09:30:22 AM
I finally finished my evil playthrough of Planescape: Torment today.

.. I feel like such an enormous bastard it's unbelievable.

I can't do evil in that game, I feel like too much of a shit. It's about the only game where playing good doesn't make me feel like an idiot.

An RPG with an alignment system is a good one when the evil acts you commit really -do- make you feel like some kind of bastard.

Try playing Jade Empire sometime. The choices are equally atrocious, but now they have actual voice actors to go along with them.

Tried it, wasn't bad, forgot why I didn't finish it. I don't remember Closed Fist being more than standard "petty asshole evil", though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on December 27, 2012, 12:18:15 PM
I finally finished my evil playthrough of Planescape: Torment today.

.. I feel like such an enormous bastard it's unbelievable.

I can't do evil in that game, I feel like too much of a shit. It's about the only game where playing good doesn't make me feel like an idiot.

An RPG with an alignment system is a good one when the evil acts you commit really -do- make you feel like some kind of bastard.

Try playing Jade Empire sometime. The choices are equally atrocious, but now they have actual voice actors to go along with them.

Tried it, wasn't bad, forgot why I didn't finish it. I don't remember Closed Fist being more than standard "petty asshole evil", though.

For the most of the game this is true, but then towards the end it gets full-on-fiendishly evil.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 27, 2012, 12:50:56 PM
Okay. I didn't like Skyrim vanilla too much, was too simple and easy. But Skyrim with the Requiem total overhaul mod ROCKS! I've now actually had a chance to test it, and whoa, totally different (and massively more interesting) game. There are mobs in the very first story related dungeon that ONE-HIT kill a level 7 character, so tactics and properly timed blocking, as well as the placement of perks suddenly matter a whole lot. And no more stupid scaling of mobs and loot. The world is static in a way that makes sense, high-end dungeons contain high-end gear and will wipe the floor with a newbie character. Dragons are actually scary.

I'm -really- enjoying Skyrim for the first time ever. Vanilla was bleh.

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19281 (http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19281)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Kol on December 27, 2012, 01:46:28 PM
https://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForce?sk=app_424559564282066&app_data (https://www.facebook.com/NVIDIAGeForce?sk=app_424559564282066&app_data)

You can apparently get free keys for Metro 2033 for the next few days. I have it on x-box, but I know some of you are PC gamers. If you haven't brought it already, I'd say this is a good time to get on it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 27, 2012, 02:40:06 PM
These Antarans and space dragons are destroying all my dudes.... :(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 27, 2012, 06:36:33 PM
Need a new starting point in CK2 that's not Spain or Ireland.

I beat both :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 27, 2012, 07:04:58 PM
Need a new starting point in CK2 that's not Spain or Ireland.

I beat both :)

Winterfell?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: AmandaGreathouse on December 27, 2012, 09:04:58 PM
Downloading the Dragonborn DLC/Expansion for Skyrim now. Can't wait to give it a whirl and I expect I'll love it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on December 27, 2012, 09:44:57 PM
Need a new starting point in CK2 that's not Spain or Ireland.

I beat both :)


I had a great time in France. Ended up becoming King of England and France, had most of the Iberian Peninsula and all of Egypt as well. I started as the Count of Bourbon.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 27, 2012, 10:22:19 PM
Looking for opinions on War of the Roses. Especially a comparison to Chivalry: Medieval Combat.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 27, 2012, 11:22:17 PM
Need a new starting point in CK2 that's not Spain or Ireland.

I beat both :)


I had a great time in France. Ended up becoming King of England and France, had most of the Iberian Peninsula and all of Egypt as well. I started as the Count of Bourbon.

How did you get your first Dutchy?

I tried a few starts in it and found the game ground to a halt unless I could fabricate more claims.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 27, 2012, 11:33:27 PM
Got into the beta for Eador: Masters Of A Broken World.  This may well be the 4x I've been looking for.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 28, 2012, 12:03:23 AM
That looks cool keep us updated.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: slipshod on December 28, 2012, 12:09:14 AM
Waiting with bated breath for the upcoming release of Expeditions: Conquistador

Looks like the best modern turn-based tactical RPG (a la Shining Force) I've seen in a while.
If anyone knows of any other recent PC titles of this sort, I'd love to hear recommendations.

Dragon Age Origins was okay, with pausing making it like a turn-based game.
The world-map stuff in Mount and Blade Warband and the Total War games is great, but the combat is faster than I like.  

In the meantime, I think I'll give Crusader Kings II a whirl.  Some people have spoken well of it in this thread.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on December 28, 2012, 12:55:09 AM
Need a new starting point in CK2 that's not Spain or Ireland.

I beat both :)


I had a great time in France. Ended up becoming King of England and France, had most of the Iberian Peninsula and all of Egypt as well. I started as the Count of Bourbon.

How did you get your first Dutchy?

I tried a few starts in it and found the game ground to a halt unless I could fabricate more claims.


The King created the duchy and granted it to a rival count. I got the others to help me gang up on him. To be honest, I can't recall if I fabricated a claim on the Duchy or if I plotted. I think I plotted somehow. This was actually my first Ck2 game and was about a year ago, so I'm not entirely clear on the beginnings. I know Crown authority was low for much of the first part of the game, with France quickly becoming an elective monarchy.

Anyway, after getting the Duchy of Bourbon I played the marriage game for a LONG time. (I think I sort of gamed the system on one or two occasions. I recall marrying grandsons of other dukes matrilineally and eliminating their older brother. They may have fixed the AI's decision-making on this a bit since then. Anyway, I found it a bit gamey and decided not to do it again. Therefore you may not have the same level of success.) I got a couple of other duchies this way and found myself up for election to be king. I married the Queen of England late in the game and inherited that throne as well. That one was legitimate though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Chettaman on December 28, 2012, 08:11:21 AM
Rumor has it they remade Zone of the Enders for the 360. I got it for a friend for christmas and now I'm waiting to get back home to see how it is. This is going to be so cool. ^_^
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Harmless on December 28, 2012, 02:36:27 PM
Wow, master of orion 2 is awesome. I just blew everybody up on easy mode, yay! Granted, I had two crutches: epic missile spam boats (mirv, battlepods, and battleships is all that's needed) and learned how to overextend my command point reserve temporarily by making trade goods. I also otganized my colonies into food producers and ship makers.

But, I am thinking the "creative" species trait is overrated. I never used 80% of the stuff I researched and spies stole a whopping 10 trchs from me before I realized the importance of defensive spies.

Is there any way besides tech trade and spy theft to get two techs in the same "group"? I think that aituation is rare but it happens and I'd like to not take creative from now on.

Oh, and feudal government is a huge setback.

Great game! Is friday, how are you doing in it? :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 28, 2012, 02:46:03 PM
Me & the Psilons are the last ones left. We're in an alliance now. Right now neither of us have good enough tech/fleets to prevent the Antarans from wiping out any planet they want to, so after they do that, we just rebuild. After I get Shield 7 and a couple other things I think my dudes will be fine. I did manage to get the super planet but not Orion, yet. I'd like to get Orion just 'cause. The Guardian sustained 15 points of structure damage total when I threw a fleet of 15 ships at him last time. I'll have to try again when my tech is higher.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on December 28, 2012, 03:32:28 PM
Is there any way besides tech trade and spy theft to get two techs in the same "group"? I think that aituation is rare but it happens and I'd like to not take creative from now on.

I think not, buuut you get some free high end techs when you conquer Orion. And perhaps for other events that I can't remember, as well.

On the subject of Antarans: Defeating them in their home world is one way to win the game. You'll have to acquire the tech to, and build a dimensional portal for it, or have access to the one (or was it two?) leader(s) that grant access.

I'm glad you guys enjoy the game. It's the only game, ever, that I STILL play occasionally after 10 years.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 28, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
Yeah if Master of Orion 2 had mudsex I wouldn't need Arm.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 29, 2012, 01:04:37 AM
If its still on sale go get "King of Dragon Pass" from GoG. Seriously crazy addictive like MOO 2.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Narf on December 29, 2012, 01:17:45 AM
Yeah if Master of Orion 2 had mudsex I wouldn't need Arm.

You haven't gotten to that point of the game yet?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on December 29, 2012, 07:53:27 AM
If its still on sale go get "King of Dragon Pass" from GoG. Seriously crazy addictive like MOO 2.

This is precisely the kind of game I've been in the mood to play lately.  ;D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on December 29, 2012, 08:06:50 AM
Me & the Psilons are the last ones left. We're in an alliance now. Right now neither of us have good enough tech/fleets to prevent the Antarans from wiping out any planet they want to, so after they do that, we just rebuild. After I get Shield 7 and a couple other things I think my dudes will be fine. I did manage to get the super planet but not Orion, yet. I'd like to get Orion just 'cause. The Guardian sustained 15 points of structure damage total when I threw a fleet of 15 ships at him last time. I'll have to try again when my tech is higher.

Damnit, man!!  I have resisted dusting off my copy of that game for as long as you have been posting, but you have worn me down.  Installing now...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 29, 2012, 06:28:43 PM
After spending more of my waking hours playing Eador: Masters Of A Broken World than not, it's probably safe to say that I absolutely adore it.  It's a bit peculiar and quite far from your typical 4x game, but it absolutely has that 'one more turn' quality.

The basic game seems to have more in common with Heroes of Might & Magic than anything else.  You start by picking one shard (basically a chunk of floating world, can vary in size, terrain types, inhabitants etc) from several and set out to conquer it.  You begin each shard with a single province that contains your capital.  As far as I can tell there is no way to found other cities.  You can upgrade your city with a shitload of different buildings, but you're often limited to picking only a few of each type.  There's a really neat feature that allows you to see the ongoing development of the city.  Both your city and the villages found in other provinces have their population capped by the percentage of the province that has been explored.  You can also build up to three different buildings per province.  Each province will generally be inhabited by a single race who will typically confront you when you move a hero there.  Depending on the race and your own prior actions, you may be able to bribe, kill, or form an alliance with them.  You may only form an alliance with one race other than humans, making it a crucial decision as you gain the ability to use them as troops.  Provinces can rebel if their approval rating drops too far, and occasionally present you with a variety of interesting decisions.

Troops are utterly disposable at the start of the game (although this can change as they begin to level up), and it isn't unusual to end a tactical battle with only your hero left.  Heroes can be of four main types (Commander, Wizard, Scout and Warrior), each of which plays very differently once a few abilities have been unlocked.  There are subclasses that can be unlocked at level 10 that add a lot more variety to them.  Troops may only be moved as part of a hero's army, although you can leave them behind to guard specific provinces if you wish.

One mechanic that works particularly well is exploration.  Each province can be explored something like thirty times, raising the population cap each time.  When exploring, you may come across bandits, a new location (you can visit them on any turn), a merchant, rare troops to recruit or someone who offers you a quest.  This serves to slow down the rampant expansion typical of the genre rather nicely in my opinion, and adds an almost roguelike feel to the game in places.  This is further reinforced by just how damn difficult the game gets.  Even playing on the easiest mode is a hell of a challenge, but in a Losing is Fun way.

All in all, this is shaping up to be one of my all time favourite games.  Barely a turn goes by that doesn't allow you to make a difficult and interesting decision.

I only found this out recently, but apparently it's a remake of an older Russian game called Eador: Genesis that has been translated and released on GoG (http://www.gog.com/gamecard/eador_genesis) for a pittance.  There are a few changes between the two (most obviously, the graphics are no longer eye gougingly horrible) but it's pretty much the same the same game.  I'd suggest waiting for the new one (release date is Q1 2013), but just thought I'd let you guys know it's there if you want.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 29, 2012, 09:43:54 PM
I broke out Medieval2Total War a few days ago. Been playing an hour or two a night when I can, and it's great. I remembered how ridiculously easy the game was on very hard/very hard, so I plotted to make it more difficult.

I packed up England and moved it, every stitch and stick, to the Holy Land.

First turn I built ships and prepared to embark en masse. I left one garrison spear in each of my three starting settlements, and everything else spent the next fifteen turns or so sailing. I planned to snag Jerusalem with a crusade and start there, but the ole Pope screwed me five turns too soon by calling for Cairo instead and requesting my Heir take the cross. So I took my 3/4 stack of troops, a spy, a priest and a princess, and razed Egypt. By the time I'd taken a couple of settlements, Alexandria and Cairo, my army was in tatters, but I changed my capitol to Cairo, gave London and Nottingham to the Scots, Caen to France, and plunged into the Holy Land. -Pretty quickly got a Jihad called against Cairo, Turks join the Egyptians against me, and the massed stacks began to flood in. I ended up using penny-packets of a unit of hobilars, two militia spears in schiltron, and a set of merc horse archers when I could get them. I won some stunning victories. One of these, right after I got my first longbow unit and staked a bridge opening, annihilated an army nearly ten times the size of my own, but I admit it was mostly staked cavalry. Still badass.

Right now Egyptians are down to Antioch and Jedda, both besieged by tiny english armies, but the Turks have two stacks sieging good King Rufus and a hundred spears and sixty-odd longbowmen in Damascus. Don't think I'll pull that one off, but maybe.

Good fun. Was never very impressed by this game, but this one has been challenging.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: slipshod on December 30, 2012, 12:27:27 PM
So I have started playing Crusader Kings 2, and I am enjoying it, but I had an issue crop up.  The AI keeps taking control of my main character and using him like an NPC.  It started when my liege died of pox in the middle of a war, and his toddler son was too young to take command of the army.  I marched my count down to reinforce the king's forces, and because he was the highest ranked noble present on our side, he got assigned command of the army's center.  After the battle, though, the AI kept control of him.  When the war was over, control of him was returned to me, but now a year has passed in the game and a new war started - I hadn't even levied any troops for it yet, and the AI snatched my character (now a duke) up and once again put him in command of the royal forces of the 5 year old king.  My character has a low combat skill, and the AI keeps throwing him into huge battles which require me to levy from my vassals and send reinforcements in order to not get defeated.  I checked the paradox forums and elsewhere and saw no references to the AI stealing someone's main character.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on December 30, 2012, 02:36:03 PM
Ok, so loaded up what I thought was Masters of Orion 2, only to realize at the opening it was Masters of Orion 3. Went ahead and started a game anyway and realized very quickly why I put that game in deep storage so long ago.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 30, 2012, 03:51:59 PM
So I have started playing Crusader Kings 2, and I am enjoying it, but I had an issue crop up.  The AI keeps taking control of my main character and using him like an NPC.  It started when my liege died of pox in the middle of a war, and his toddler son was too young to take command of the army.  I marched my count down to reinforce the king's forces, and because he was the highest ranked noble present on our side, he got assigned command of the army's center.  After the battle, though, the AI kept control of him.  When the war was over, control of him was returned to me, but now a year has passed in the game and a new war started - I hadn't even levied any troops for it yet, and the AI snatched my character (now a duke) up and once again put him in command of the royal forces of the 5 year old king.  My character has a low combat skill, and the AI keeps throwing him into huge battles which require me to levy from my vassals and send reinforcements in order to not get defeated.  I checked the paradox forums and elsewhere and saw no references to the AI stealing someone's main character.

You can assign leaders to the army when its on your own provinces.

If your character is too young to rule a regent takes over but you still issue commands. I think what happened is you had Gavelkind succession and one of your siblings took a chunk of your demense.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: slipshod on December 30, 2012, 04:20:40 PM
No, it's not that, Jane.  Here's what happened:

I was playing (in Crusader Kings 2) a count, with no siblings and a few underage children.  I betrothed my eldest daughter to the son of my NPC King (of Leon).  My NPC King got himself involved in a civil war, and as a good royalist I was on his side.  The war got to a point where my king had one army of about 550 guys left, and the other side had two armies of about 770 each.  My count was leading his own small levy of about 200 guys, looking for small groups of fleeing enemies to pick off.  The NPC King died suddenly of pox, and his 5 year old son could not take his place commanding the NPC army (it had one untitled courier and a lowly mayor on the flanks when the King died).  One of the 770 strong opposing armies engaged the King's 550-strong army (now under the command of the mayor).  I rushed my count and his 200 men down to the same province, and they joined the King's army with the battle ongoing.  At this point, my Count took the center flank of the joint army.  When the battle finished, our combined forces were now enough to resume a siege on the province.  We finished the siege successfully, and then the 550-man NPC army marched away with my Count now in gray and under AI control.  His levy was left without a commander, so I assigned the marshall and attached it to the NPC army to continue the war.  The AI made my Count march the King's army off to fight the remaining 770 enemies, and I had to bolster him with his own levy and the vassal levy's so he could win.  The 5 year old King then made a white peace with the opposing faction, the war ended and my count returned to my control.  Now, a year or two later, the NPC king is still a little kid, and though he has an NPC regent and marshall and court of his own, whenever he goes to war his main army is controlled by my PC Duke, and I have to use other characters from my court to control my armies.  It seems like some kind of glitch was triggered when the old NPC King died while leading an army and my count's rank made him the goto commander - but now it keeps going to my duke to lead the army instead of assigning someone from the King's court.  I hope when the King turns 16 he'll start leading his own army and I'll have my character back in wartime.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 30, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
Your character is held to the same rules as any other character in the game.  When you're a king and you raise an army, NPC counts and dukes will be leading it.  The Kingdom of Leon is pretty damn small, so the chances of you being picked are high.  This is working as intended.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on December 30, 2012, 07:22:46 PM
I'm pretty sure raising levies pisses off your liege. Same thing if you raise levies off your vassals.

Well, it gives a negative modifier to opinion.

Technically you're supposed to let him raise levies and run the war.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on December 31, 2012, 08:58:22 AM
http://pope.jeffsys.net/play.php?g=trt

it made me lol sadly
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on December 31, 2012, 10:12:22 AM
http://pope.jeffsys.net/play.php?g=trt

it made me lol sadly

Oh man.. If I were any good at this I'd make a zalanthan version named 'the Tuluki times'. It fits the setting perfectly.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on December 31, 2012, 07:28:15 PM
No, it's not that, Jane.  Here's what happened:

I was playing (in Crusader Kings 2) a count, with no siblings and a few underage children.  I betrothed my eldest daughter to the son of my NPC King (of Leon).  My NPC King got himself involved in a civil war, and as a good royalist I was on his side.  The war got to a point where my king had one army of about 550 guys left, and the other side had two armies of about 770 each.  My count was leading his own small levy of about 200 guys, looking for small groups of fleeing enemies to pick off.  The NPC King died suddenly of pox, and his 5 year old son could not take his place commanding the NPC army (it had one untitled courier and a lowly mayor on the flanks when the King died).  One of the 770 strong opposing armies engaged the King's 550-strong army (now under the command of the mayor).  I rushed my count and his 200 men down to the same province, and they joined the King's army with the battle ongoing.  At this point, my Count took the center flank of the joint army.  When the battle finished, our combined forces were now enough to resume a siege on the province.  We finished the siege successfully, and then the 550-man NPC army marched away with my Count now in gray and under AI control.  His levy was left without a commander, so I assigned the marshall and attached it to the NPC army to continue the war.  The AI made my Count march the King's army off to fight the remaining 770 enemies, and I had to bolster him with his own levy and the vassal levy's so he could win.  The 5 year old King then made a white peace with the opposing faction, the war ended and my count returned to my control.  Now, a year or two later, the NPC king is still a little kid, and though he has an NPC regent and marshall and court of his own, whenever he goes to war his main army is controlled by my PC Duke, and I have to use other characters from my court to control my armies.  It seems like some kind of glitch was triggered when the old NPC King died while leading an army and my count's rank made him the goto commander - but now it keeps going to my duke to lead the army instead of assigning someone from the King's court.  I hope when the King turns 16 he'll start leading his own army and I'll have my character back in wartime.

The king can assign your guy as he pleases because he is your liege, just as you can assign people when you raise your own levies. You can still play as you want, but your count/duke has been assigned a post by the king. It isn't a glitch. You can still control your territory. Your guy has obligations. Having a high martial skill makes the npc lieges want to employ your guy as a commander. Them's the breaks.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 31, 2012, 08:15:27 PM
CK2 pisses me off. Great game, but it hates my laptop. :( Playing 1.00 is fine. Works as perfectly as an initial release can be expected to.

If I apply a patch, any patch, the game loads fine but I can't see the interface. Nothing. Nicely rendered map that I can click all over. The buttons work, but I can't see them or the portraits. Grrr.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on January 01, 2013, 08:20:00 PM
Everquest has been fun. Glad I got back into it. Though, I remembered why I left so long ago. It's hard to MAKE FRIENDS!!!!!! *CRY*
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spacewars on January 01, 2013, 10:44:17 PM
Everquest has been fun. Glad I got back into it. Though, I remembered why I left so long ago. It's hard to MAKE FRIENDS!!!!!! *CRY*

1 or 2
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: mattrious on January 02, 2013, 12:47:55 AM
Everquest has been fun. Glad I got back into it. Though, I remembered why I left so long ago. It's hard to MAKE FRIENDS!!!!!! *CRY*

1 or 2

Playing the Free-To-Play EQ on Vox.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 02, 2013, 01:14:32 AM
Fable 3 is a steaming turd.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on January 02, 2013, 11:30:33 AM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c6/Far_Cry_3_PAL_box_art.jpg/250px-Far_Cry_3_PAL_box_art.jpg)

When I should have been sleeping today before work, I was playing Far Cry 3.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: solera on January 02, 2013, 01:17:13 PM
H&D 2 co-op with the family.For most of the day.  Good times. :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Old Kank on January 02, 2013, 03:19:13 PM
The new HD Star Control II mod. (http://sourceforge.net/projects/urquanmastershd/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 02, 2013, 08:03:34 PM
After reading the positive reviews from several people in this thread, I have been inspired to purchase Crusader Kings 2.

Downloading from Steam as I type this.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on January 02, 2013, 08:13:44 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c6/Far_Cry_3_PAL_box_art.jpg/250px-Far_Cry_3_PAL_box_art.jpg)

When I should have been sleeping today before work, I was playing Far Cry 3.
It's just like living in Australia
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on January 02, 2013, 10:14:40 PM
Yeah, all the Rakyat say kia ora and stand around smoking all day.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Case on January 02, 2013, 10:18:28 PM
Yeah, all the Rakyat say kia ora and stand around smoking all day.
white australia fantasy

yeah sure all the maoris shoot people up with AKs
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 03, 2013, 08:58:32 AM
I beat XCOM on normal with 3/6 team members.  I decided to try Ironman Classic (as was my plan all along, move it up the ladder til I beat the game on Ironman Impossible).

Everyone dies in first mission.  Restart.
Everyone survives first mission.  Promotions.
Second mission starts.  Everyone dies.

Now...I'm no mathematician, but I think I can see the start of a pattern here.  This is going to take a while.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 03, 2013, 12:15:27 PM
I'm trying not to play Dishonored again to get the rest of the achievements... and not buy the Dunwall City Trials.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on January 03, 2013, 07:45:29 PM
I've sat down and watched Skyrim load three nights in a row. My pal Ulfric is there and it's time to go a'plundering.

I just can't muster any enthusiasm, so I end up just staring at the character for about a minute and then killing it to listen to music. I want to play. Frolic around, kill important NPCs. Hunt out dragons before getting levelled up. Killing the bastards. I just.... don't.

Wish I had a PC that would run a decent game. But Victoria2 chews me up on my desktop. Laptop runs it much better even though I have shitty integrated graphics. Neither would run Shogun2TW. I doubt they'd even run ETW decently enough for me to suffer through.

Anyone have a suggestion for a 360 strategy game worth spending money on?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 03, 2013, 08:35:31 PM
OK, I think I ought to give this Crusader Kings II thing a try.  Which DLC packs are worth getting?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 03, 2013, 08:56:03 PM
Ruler Designer is a must have IMO.

Plus:
Sword of Islam
Legacy of Rome
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 03, 2013, 09:06:01 PM
Anyone have a suggestion for a 360 strategy game worth spending money on?

R.U.S.E. is pretty interesting IMO.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 03, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
Oh god I have no idea what I'm doing.  Started as Denmark... joined up with Norway in their conquest of England.  Decided to try and take back all of Holstein, which went OK until I pissed off the Holy Roman Empire and they squashed me with 10x as many troops as I had.

The "tutorial" for the game was abysmal.  I have no idea how to get significant amounts of money or what I'm actually supposed to be DOING aside from marrying off my swarm of children.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 03, 2013, 11:57:50 PM
Crusader Kings 2 is not a strategy game in the sense that you need to go take over land and manage your armies well. It's a political dynasty simulator, but with more herpes and infidels. Make sure the children are married off well (or horribly), assassinate political rivals, kill your wife to remarry your sister, groom your eldest son to take over after you... Join crusades...

I like starting as a count.

Once, as a count in the Byzantine Empire or the HRE, forgot which, I decided my duke's land should be mine. But how to get it? The king won't listen and I can't go to war as a vassal. So I start by assassinating him. Then his heir. Then his heir's heir. Then I'm killing 3 year old girls, because that's all that's left. His great-great granddaughter is dead. Her sister. Her niece.

I have almost killed their entire dynasty, and it's the original duke's mother who is left leading the duchy.

So I'm like, well, fuck this bitch, let's kill her too.

Start an assassination plot against her, intrigue level is real high, just biding my time...

Then she dies of depression.

I WONDER WHY?

Edit:

I ended up marrying the Duke (a 1 year old boy) to my youngest daughter.

Then I became Catholic, somehow won the crusades, and became King of Jerusalem.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 04, 2013, 04:11:01 AM
Deity (http://www.deity-game.com/) is a very stylish stealthy demon game.  It's also free and very short.  I wish it wasn't very short.

Oh god I have no idea what I'm doing.  Started as Denmark... joined up with Norway in their conquest of England.  Decided to try and take back all of Holstein, which went OK until I pissed off the Holy Roman Empire and they squashed me with 10x as many troops as I had.

The "tutorial" for the game was abysmal.  I have no idea how to get significant amounts of money or what I'm actually supposed to be DOING aside from marrying off my swarm of children.

Pick an Irish Count, any Irish Count.  Do what seems like a cool thing to do.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on January 04, 2013, 04:23:22 AM
Anyone have a suggestion for a 360 strategy game worth spending money on?

R.U.S.E. is pretty interesting IMO.

R.U.S.E. was a pretty fun game from what I remember, and Halo Wars is a very solid console RTS (though maybe not a solid Halo game). Not 100% sure if the multiplayer servers are still online though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on January 04, 2013, 08:32:03 AM
I shoulda bought CK2 when it was on sale. But then RIGHT WHEN I DECIDED TO BUY IT the sale ended. Gurgle.

Someday, my sweet. Probably when you're unpopular and 10 years old. Hah.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 04, 2013, 09:07:38 AM
It was 50% ($20) off for me yesterday.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 04, 2013, 09:13:58 AM
It was 50% ($20) off for me yesterday.

It's still 50% off, but there was a while where it was 75% off.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on January 04, 2013, 09:27:33 AM
It was 50% ($20) off for me yesterday.

Yeah! What LC said. It was super cheap. Maybe I'll end up siphoning 20 bucks from this week's check for myself ... somehow. Ahaha.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoltan on January 04, 2013, 11:03:27 AM
I can't recommend Crusader Kings 2 enough. Definitely get the Sword of Islam and Legacy of Rome DLC. LoR adds a lot to the game, including retinues (standing armies) and factions (extra vassal political maneuvering fun/colossal pain in the ass depending on whether you're the liege lord or not). Excellent game. The stories that emerge can sometimes be straight out of A Song of Ice and Fire.

My problem lately is that I have too many awesome games, and I've placed a restriction on myself of no video games during weekdays unless I accomplish some things. Downside is that I miss playing all my awesome games. Upside is that I'm actually making real progress and completing projects in musical and literary ventures... I feel so grown up!  ::) Of course, the moment I'm not working a "real job" that entails staring at a terminal for 8+ hours straight a day, that'll all go out the window as I get back into Crackageddon...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on January 04, 2013, 11:42:37 AM
*unimportant stuff* ...that'll all go out the window as I get back into Crackageddon...

YES! To crackageddon with you! You owe me since you stored on me, anyway.  ;)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 04, 2013, 01:06:59 PM
CK2 was 75% off just before steam xmas sale :)

In any case, I got Fallen Enchantress for 50% off yesterday... there's a good game there somewhere. The reviews linked on metacritic are mostly correct -- it works fine, and there's a good game there if you liked MoM. Unfortunately it's unpolished, severely lacking in the clean interface department too.

I can't seem to get a good game started. I keep getting dogpiled by the AI. Still looking for a wiki or good guide.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 04, 2013, 01:11:48 PM
I'm not very good at FE, but spamming pioneers at the start and founding as many settlements as possible helps a hell of a lot.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 04, 2013, 02:18:34 PM
Oh god I have no idea what I'm doing.  Started as Denmark... joined up with Norway in their conquest of England.  Decided to try and take back all of Holstein, which went OK until I pissed off the Holy Roman Empire and they squashed me with 10x as many troops as I had.

The "tutorial" for the game was abysmal.  I have no idea how to get significant amounts of money or what I'm actually supposed to be DOING aside from marrying off my swarm of children.

One thing you can do to increase money that I recently discovered is to develop the holdings.  I didn't even know there was a building aspect to the game until I accidentally stumbled across it.  I was going to start over, given this new bit of info.  My original count had made it to king of Norway, died, and the eldest took over.  His uncle then started trying to assassinate my wife and my kids, so I went to imprison him.  That failed, he revolted, his alies jumped in on me (I was viewed as tyrannical, so he had a lot of help), and I ended up in jail with nothing but one county left.  That's when I discovered the building options because, what the hell else am I gonna do sitting in prison?  I was about to restart, but then, out of nowhere, my sister, of all people, managed some sort of coup (i had time going as fast as possible by this point, so when it happened, it was over before I realized what was going on).  Next thing I knew, i was released from prison, named the heir, and the next year, she died and I was king again. 

I knew nothing of this game before reading this thread.  I'm glad you guys introduced me to it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Akaramu on January 04, 2013, 02:33:16 PM
One other thing you can do in CK2 to get some money early on is to set your steward to collecting taxes in your main province with the highest tax income.

And you don't want to piss off the HRE, or anyone 10 times your size.  :D
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 04, 2013, 03:47:55 PM
How to make money quickly in CK2:

* You make big bucks from wedding gifts, for yourself and immediate family.
* Kill any courtier who is rich. I think this also works for vassals. There's an inheritance tax.
* Get good with the Pope and declare a Holy War. He'll start sending you gold every so often.
* Imprison and banish your subjects -- if you don't have a good reason expect a hefty tyrant penalty.
* Once you spot holy orders, declare a holy war, spend the piety and start assaulting the castles and towns right quick instead of sieging them.

How to invest in your future:

* Build castle villages, towns and then cities and larger cities as a priority over everything else.
* Increase taxes through your laws. This will piss off your subjects.

How to piss off the world and get rich:

Appoint an anti-pope :)


Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoltan on January 04, 2013, 05:04:56 PM
Improving your holdings is key. Don't bother improving any holdings that are run by a vassal (such as temples and cities in your county) as the AI will take care of those in their own time. Don't go over your demense limit and don't own a "wrong type" of holding (city or temple if you're a noble lord). If you own a city, right click on the city portrait in the county view and Create a Vassal as soon as possible. When I build additional holdings in a province, I tend toward creating a castle for the first new one since it greatly increases your levy, but a city's not a bad idea for the extra gold. Temples are cool but can really suck if you can't keep the church on your side.

Of course, everyone knows the key to real wealth is to increase the feudal tax in your realm to Max. ::trollface::
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 04, 2013, 05:30:44 PM
According to one of the wikis you make more gold from a castle with a village improvement (later large city improvement) than you would having a mayor run the city because its paid directly to you, instead of to a mayor who then gives you your cut.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoltan on January 04, 2013, 05:56:00 PM
Yeah, my order of improvements to a castle holding varies, but almost all the time, my first two improvements are to the wall (multiple bonuses, including gold) and then building a castle village. In my last couple of games I have been more levy-focused than gold, but I would probably say that in the long run, gold is probably the most important, useful thing. If you keep on your toes, gold can solve a lot of problems. That said, I don't use the expensive Assassinate diplomacy button because I think it's a little game-y. Assassination -plots- on the other hand are cool. That's just my opinion, though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Spider on January 04, 2013, 07:06:30 PM
According to one of the wikis you make more gold from a castle with a village improvement (later large city improvement) than you would having a mayor run the city because its paid directly to you, instead of to a mayor who then gives you your cut.


Mayors will develop the land on their own with their own money though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 04, 2013, 10:10:47 PM
OK, I think maybe I'm getting the hang of this?

Started as a Danish duke.  Putzed around a while, kicked some Swedish ass in a war, and had two kids, a son and a daughter.  Had a rivalry with my brother Prince Knud, but the king found out about my plot to kill him and told me to knock it off.  Then Knud in turn assassinated my son (I think, it wasn't clear).  Meanwhile, King daddy had my off leading an army and I fell in battle, switching the game over to my now 13-year-old daughter. 

Knud declares war on me/her, but I used my inheritance, combined with my own personal stash, to hire some Swiss mercenaries and I kick Knud's ass all over the Danish peninsula.  He surrenders, but I feel like I'm not done with him.  So I fabricate a claim on his home county and go to war again with the same mercenaries (I had money to keep them around a long time).  I win this time too and Knud is left with just a little tiny county of Lubeck.

Sadly, the king dies and his heir (thankfully not Knud!) implements medium crown authority so I'm not allowed to finish Knud off.  I'm not quite strong enough to just break away from Denmark, so I guess it's time to try the assassination game.  I've bribed half of Knud's court and got one supporter.  Meanwhile I'm sewing dissent in the hopes I can pick up some more. 

I will kill him and avenge my baby brother!!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 04, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
ACK!  The bastard got me!  Put a snake in my bed...

I don't care what else happens but I will see Prince Knud dead!!!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 04, 2013, 10:33:48 PM
Argh!  He got me again!  Now playing my own granddaughter...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on January 06, 2013, 05:15:24 AM
Picked up Sleeping Dogs on the cheap during the steam sale and I'm really enjoying it so far. Something about it is drawing me in more than most open world games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 06, 2013, 12:05:17 PM
Anyone care to comment on Endless Space? Is the A.I really as bad as the reviews describe?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: th3kaiser on January 06, 2013, 02:52:15 PM
Yup. Don't waste your money. If you're really hankering for a 4X go play MOO2 or something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 06, 2013, 04:02:04 PM
CK2 with all the expansions.

I just got a schooling in not pissing off the major religion of the time.  I started in those little isles off the eastern cost of Spain with a custom ruler.  Female.  Heretical Christian.  Weak, wounded (for the "scarred" trait once it heals.  Plus, the snazzy look it gives my portrait!), lustful and hedonistic to off-set the fertility issues of Weak, Genius and Attractive, Arbitrary, Cynical and Patient.

Most of my vassals and court were Sunni, as was the population of my holdings.  I quickly demanded my court Imir (not sure of the spelling) to convert, then sent them out to "preach to the heathens."  Through wild diplomacy, marrying a bastard Irish noble, having a family-size that any Mormon would envy (10 kids..two sets of twins.  Guess when both the wife and husband are "lustful" things tend to happen!) and marrying them off to various factions on mainland Spain, then backstabbing, cajoling and generally being as greedy as possible, I managed to bring half of Spain under my control before my initial monarch reached 60 and attained the title of "The Great."

Then one of my allies (my heir, Duke of Valencia) had a holy war declared on him by the King of Galecia.  I stepped in to help and kicked their ass out of my family's holdings, only to then receive the message that France has joined in the war against my child.

Having seen how things tended to go when France got involved at this point in history, I mentally kissed my reign good-bye.  Sure enough, I had 20k+ cheese-eating, wine-swilling Frenchmen show up on my doorstep within a year.  My army and all my allies (including several Muslim Sultans that my daughters were married to) gave a good battle for twenty years, but it dragged all of Western Europe and parts of the Holy Roman Empire into the fray.  My entire line was eventually killed off from one fight or another and the diseases that sprouted up.

Queen Sulyana the Great saw her line and blood rise up in glory..only to end up back in my original isles, haunted by the ghosts of her slaughtered children, grandchildren and an empty castle.

She died of depression.





..I am so friggin' hooked.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 06, 2013, 07:25:53 PM
Can someone help me out with a little marriage problem?  I've had things like this seem to happen a few times now:

So, I'm a countess in Ireland and I notice that the Count of Oriel has one son and 3 daughters.  As a sneaky bastard, this seems like an opportunity.  So I betroth my eldest son to Count Oriel's eldest daughter.  Then, as soon as the marriage is ratified, I assassinate the eldest son and wait for old Oriel to die and for my son to get me a grandson.  This happens, but things don't seem as they should.

Firstly, my son is at court in Oriel, not my county.  Secondly, his son is not listed as his heir.  Also he seems to be out of my control, as when his wife died I couldn't arrange a marriage for him; he went and married his aunt-in-law (  ??? ) instead.

I'm pretty sure I had matrilineal un-checked at the betrothal... could it have gotten turned back on when the actual marriage fired?  Or does something happen when an unlanded son's wife becomes a countess?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 06, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
Also, a rich mayor revolted and after I won the war I revoked his title and locked him in the dungeon.  Then, many years later, he died... but where did his money go?  He had no heirs, though somehow he'd claimed fealty to the count next door.  Should I have executed him?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 06, 2013, 08:48:42 PM
Can someone help me out with a little marriage problem?  I've had things like this seem to happen a few times now:

So, I'm a countess in Ireland and I notice that the Count of Oriel has one son and 3 daughters.  As a sneaky bastard, this seems like an opportunity.  So I betroth my eldest son to Count Oriel's eldest daughter.  Then, as soon as the marriage is ratified, I assassinate the eldest son and wait for old Oriel to die and for my son to get me a grandson.  This happens, but things don't seem as they should.

Firstly, my son is at court in Oriel, not my county.  Secondly, his son is not listed as his heir.  Also he seems to be out of my control, as when his wife died I couldn't arrange a marriage for him; he went and married his aunt-in-law (  ??? ) instead.

I'm pretty sure I had matrilineal un-checked at the betrothal... could it have gotten turned back on when the actual marriage fired?  Or does something happen when an unlanded son's wife becomes a countess?

I don't know if this is what happened, but never accept the computer's proposal for marriage when the time comes if you betrothed them matrilineally. They try to sneak in a normal marriage, so always make sure you are the one to send the final invitation once they are both of age.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 06, 2013, 08:57:01 PM
Can someone help me out with a little marriage problem?  I've had things like this seem to happen a few times now:

So, I'm a countess in Ireland and I notice that the Count of Oriel has one son and 3 daughters.  As a sneaky bastard, this seems like an opportunity.  So I betroth my eldest son to Count Oriel's eldest daughter.  Then, as soon as the marriage is ratified, I assassinate the eldest son and wait for old Oriel to die and for my son to get me a grandson.  This happens, but things don't seem as they should.

Firstly, my son is at court in Oriel, not my county.  Secondly, his son is not listed as his heir.  Also he seems to be out of my control, as when his wife died I couldn't arrange a marriage for him; he went and married his aunt-in-law (  ??? ) instead.

http://crusaderkings-two.wikia.com/wiki/Marriage_Guide

Your son would not get a weak claim, his sons and daughters would BTW. So you would need to kill him off, then invite to court of one his kids and press their claim in a succession crisis.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 06, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
Well I don't want to kill him off.  I groomed him quite carefully.  He has 26 diplomacy.

Meanwhile... things are happening that are strange and I don't understand them.

Like, my aforementioned grandson is now the rule of his little county, and my son, his father, is chancellor.  He sent my son to fabricate false claims against one of my own counties.  Doesn't make sense since he's already in line to inherit it, right after my own son.

Meanwhile, shit hit the fan in Scotland and there was a massive multi-stage civil war, and various factions have called me into it at one point or another.

Currently, though, one faction is warring on Scotland for my own son's claim on it (his father was a prince of Scotland).  Except, as far as I can tell, the leader of this faction has absolutely nothing to do with my son.  If they're related, I can't find it.  Meanwhile my son is much closer in bloodline to the current king, who is an actual cousin.  I've been called to fight, by the current king, but I kinda don't want to in case it means that if he loses, my son gets the kingdom. 
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 06, 2013, 09:52:27 PM
Is your son your heir btw? I'm assuming so. Sounds like he may have the ambitious trait, and he's grabbing stuff up early :)

If he is your heir, this may not be so bad for the dynasty :)

I learned a long time ago to keep everyone in my court, and always make sure everyone is "content" except the first two in line. I then always kill off my brother after inheriting. It's the first order of business.

The game rocks because the AI is so good at roleplaying each character according to their traits :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: LauraMars on January 06, 2013, 11:10:53 PM
I downloaded CK2 - I don't understand this game at all.  How do you make money?  How do you do...ANYTHING?  The UI is so bad I can't seem to figure out how to accomplish a single thing.  I know I'm not real big into RTS games but geez how hard can it be?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 06, 2013, 11:18:14 PM
If I wasn't in Australia, I'd offer to run a multiplayer match/tutorial for new players and walk them through what to do as they play.

But hey, I'm Aussie now.

Best advice...

1. Marry your King
2. Set ambition 'Have a Son'
3. Make sure the potential wife is not chaste or invalid
4. Check your Council - appoint vassals to positions, then send them places to do things. Collect taxes within your own regions.
5. Click on counties, look at the picture of castles, temples and cities, then click on those and see if you have the option to build stuff in them.
6. Speed up time and wait.
7. Practice and improve skills via ambitions.
8. Always go to feasts (unless you think it's actually a thinly veiled excuse by your liege to imprison you)
9. Always host feasts, grand tournaments, etc.
10. Intrigue plots against EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on January 06, 2013, 11:52:44 PM
Farcry 3 so guuud.

Just beat it. Had to take the "Save your friends route" because that's what I spent the entire game doing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 07, 2013, 12:52:46 AM
I accidentally Scotland.

Turns out that war on behalf of my (son's) claim to the crown was legit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 01:59:57 AM
Anyone care to comment on Endless Space? Is the A.I really as bad as the reviews describe?

It's a fully featured 4x with quite a few smart design decisions, let down by a few stupid ones and a complete lack of 'soul' if you know what I mean.

As for the AI...well...the game is pretty fun in multiplayer :P

@Moe: Your son left because his partner was landed and he wasn't.  This is why you should also make someone a Count before pressing their claim in war.  It's also possible to steal people's heirs this way from time to time.

@Laura: This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJhoyHE26lg) series of videos helped me out when I first started playing.  The UI really isn't that terrible, the game's just very different from...well...anything else, and takes a few hours to get used to.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on January 07, 2013, 02:06:44 AM
Anyone care to comment on Endless Space? Is the A.I really as bad as the reviews describe?

It's a fully featured 4x with quite a few smart design decisions, let down by a few stupid ones and a complete lack of 'soul' if you know what I mean.

As for the AI...well...the game is pretty fun in multiplayer :P
Only -major- gripe I have with Endless Space is that its combat is utter shit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 02:22:24 AM
Anyone care to comment on Endless Space? Is the A.I really as bad as the reviews describe?

It's a fully featured 4x with quite a few smart design decisions, let down by a few stupid ones and a complete lack of 'soul' if you know what I mean.

As for the AI...well...the game is pretty fun in multiplayer :P
Only -major- gripe I have with Endless Space is that its combat is utter shit.

It most definitely is.  It helps to think of the game as being closer to Civ in space than Sword of the Stars or something.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cind on January 07, 2013, 06:28:01 AM
Playing a couple, both with the family-oriented trait on Sims 3. Trying to raise a criminal mastermind family.

Also the father has the Evil trait. I'm still giggling every five minutes over something he does.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 07, 2013, 08:06:19 AM
Started another game, this time in Ireland.

Once again, initial ruler was female.  I made their ethnicity Arabic (their portraits just look better, imo) and their culture Basque since it's the only way I can make women inherit just as men do.  I want my holdings to stay in my own control, dammit!  I will admit, I cheated and made it possible to marry anyone.  I have this whole "Song of Ice and Fire" and "Rome" thing going on where my children marry back and forth with one another (and each other) which is going to purposefully bite me in the ass later on.  Too bad I haven't found a mod that allows this without cheating, and gains the displeasure of the religious head (which I could then buy off).

So far, my initial ruler married another Basque and started the ball rolling.  They claimed two duchies in Ireland and I was working on the third when their husband died and they soon did after due to poor health (they'd gained infirm...bah!) and depression.  My neat little proto-kingdom was them split between my two eldest sons, since I hadn't ruled long enough to switch out my succession laws.

My heir married their sister and kept up good relations with their brother, even assisting with several revolts and incursions on their lands.  I, meanwhile, was busy with scheming and building up my gold and holdings to support a bigger army and grow my tech base faster.  I was in good relations with the pope and had put down several heresies.  Not that I had any gripe about them, but I didn't want to piss off the establishment.  The Holy Orders were around by now and I'd already gotten a lesson in ass-kicking by them in previous games.  My wife/sister died and I married another courtier, still being basque since half of my holdings had given up on the Irish way of life for my own.  Fortunately, my new wife and I had 3 daughters before 1 son, and the inbreeding is starting to show.  Of my last two children, one gained the "slow' trait and the other "imbecile."

Interestingly enough, one of my sisters came of age and I was able to marry her off to one of the kings of England.  Literally as soon as I'd clicked the button for the marriage, the bastard (actually was one) died and my sister ended up back in my court without ever leaving (but got the snazzy "Queen" look).  I waited a little while then married her off to the second king.  A month later, I find she's been made regent due to her husband being imprisoned in the Holy Land (making her queen of England and Jerusalem).  I checked things out and found out that there was only two heirs between her and power; a rival English King and their child.  At this point, I was thinking "hey, accident's happen" and promptly had both killed.  This made my sister's husband (free from the dungeon) king of bloody England.  As soon as this happened, I received a request from the king of Scotland to marry my daughter.

Having usurped the title to another Duchy and working on claiming the last free one in Ireland, it soon appears as if my line will be found the Empire of Britannia..if I can kick the damned Norwegians out! 
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 07, 2013, 10:55:06 AM
Yeah, I think I'm going to make a mod that remove the requirement of being Basque from the cognatic absolute law.  This is alternate history, after all.  Might also make it so you can appoint women to more/all council positions.  I had a daughter that somehow had 20 points in martial aptitude.  I should be able to let her be Joan of Arc or something if I see fit, lol.

I spent a little time browsing the game's files and modding of that sort seems simple enough to do.  Any other requests while I'm tinkering?  I can certainly make it available to anyone who wants.

@Moe: Your son left because his partner was landed and he wasn't.  This is why you should also make someone a Count before pressing their claim in war.  It's also possible to steal people's heirs this way from time to time.
Aye, lesson learned.  Damned kids caused a LOT of trouble.

Also WTF... I arrange a nice marriage for my son.  He goes off to her court.  They have a son.  She dies.  He marries his mother in law...  :o :-X

Meanwhile, the grandson is in charge and sets his dad, my son, as chancellor.  He starts fabricating claims on MY realm... claims he's first in line for (and the grandson is second).  I was so pissed off at that kid.  Fortunately, he died before I was forced to play as him.  Sadly, though, some nobles from a neighboring county assassinated my poor 4-year-old great granddaughter and usurped the county, removing all my lineage's claims to it.  >:(

Then...

I accidentally Scotland.

Turns out that war on behalf of my (son's) claim to the crown was legit.

So yeah... being a king is hard.  There was another civil war almost immediately.  While leading a charge against a rebel city, I took a blow to the head and then died a few days later, passing reign to my brother.  However, turns out before I died I'd gotten my wife pregnant and she had a son!  So when assassins came for my brother/me a year later, it switched to the 1-year-old him (grandson of my starting ruler).  Then there was another civil war, but I squashed it because I could afford mercenaries.  Then there was ANOTHER civil war, once again thwarted by deep coffers.  I've got half the in-laws locked up!

So how am I supposed to stabilize a kingdom anyway?  Now that I have so many vassals, the cost of revoking titles or imprisoning people is huge, and most of them don't like me much to begin with.  Fortunately, as the current grandson of my original ruler and son of a ruler who stayed Irish, my countrymen seem a lot more tolerant compared to when my family members who were living in Wales ruled.

I don't have much money, just enough to keep a mercenary company paid during a prolonged war.  Certainly not enough to start offing troublesome dukes.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 11:03:21 AM
The most bizarre thing I've ever seen in CK2 was when my only daughter (I was playing a Sunni Count somewhere in southern Spain) married six consecutive short-lived Scottish Kings.  I guess everyone needs a hobby.

Any other requests while I'm tinkering?  I can certainly make it available to anyone who wants.

Possibly a little more work than you're looking for, but I'd absolutely love a mod that starts everyone off as an independent Count/ess with a single province.  Even more so if every county could have it's stats (wealth, supply, tech level etc) set to the same level.

As far as stabilising a Kingdom goes, here's a few tips that have served me well in the long term.

1. You should be the same culture and religion as the majority of your vassals.  Whether that means replacing your vassals or trying to get your heir to have the right culture via education is up to you.
2. Keep those damn dukes weak.  Minimal troops, a single county, and preferably the content trait.  If they have more than one duchy or the ambitious trait, get rid of them ASAP.
3. When giving out titles, pick courtiers with low intrigue scores.
4. Marry everyone to people with low intrigue scores.
5. Make sure your vassal's heirs are educated by people with your culture/religion, low intrigue scores, and preferably the content trait.
6. Always hold all the King titles in your realm.
7. Wait until your current ruler is old/infirm/maimed/imprisoned before going on a revoking/banishment spree to minimize the length of the reputation hit.
8. I think it's safe to pretty much ignore counts once you're a king.  Focus all your efforts on the dukes.
9. Go on the Hajj/a Crusade as soon as possible.  Bring as many of your most important vassals as possible.
10. Throw frequent feasts and the occasional hunt.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 07, 2013, 11:14:45 AM
Yeah, I think I'm going to make a mod that remove the requirement of being Basque from the cognatic absolute law.  This is alternate history, after all.  Might also make it so you can appoint women to more/all council positions.  I had a daughter that somehow had 20 points in martial aptitude.  I should be able to let her be Joan of Arc or something if I see fit, lol.

I spent a little time browsing the game's files and modding of that sort seems simple enough to do.  Any other requests while I'm tinkering?  I can certainly make it available to anyone who wants.

@Moe: Your son left because his partner was landed and he wasn't.  This is why you should also make someone a Count before pressing their claim in war.  It's also possible to steal people's heirs this way from time to time.
Aye, lesson learned.  Damned kids caused a LOT of trouble.

Also WTF... I arrange a nice marriage for my son.  He goes off to her court.  They have a son.  She dies.  He marries his mother in law...  :o :-X

Meanwhile, the grandson is in charge and sets his dad, my son, as chancellor.  He starts fabricating claims on MY realm... claims he's first in line for (and the grandson is second).  I was so pissed off at that kid.  Fortunately, he died before I was forced to play as him.  Sadly, though, some nobles from a neighboring county assassinated my poor 4-year-old great granddaughter and usurped the county, removing all my lineage's claims to it.  >:(

Then...

I accidentally Scotland.

Turns out that war on behalf of my (son's) claim to the crown was legit.

So yeah... being a king is hard.  There was another civil war almost immediately.  While leading a charge against a rebel city, I took a blow to the head and then died a few days later, passing reign to my brother.  However, turns out before I died I'd gotten my wife pregnant and she had a son!  So when assassins came for my brother/me a year later, it switched to the 1-year-old him (grandson of my starting ruler).  Then there was another civil war, but I squashed it because I could afford mercenaries.  Then there was ANOTHER civil war, once again thwarted by deep coffers.  I've got half the in-laws locked up!

So how am I supposed to stabilize a kingdom anyway?  Now that I have so many vassals, the cost of revoking titles or imprisoning people is huge, and most of them don't like me much to begin with.  Fortunately, as the current grandson of my original ruler and son of a ruler who stayed Irish, my countrymen seem a lot more tolerant compared to when my family members who were living in Wales ruled.

I don't have much money, just enough to keep a mercenary company paid during a prolonged war.  Certainly not enough to start offing troublesome dukes.

Well, since you're having so many problems with the local Dukes since you're not of their culture, perhaps you should marry the most powerful one's daughter off to one of your children. Another thing you could do is try to raise  your son under the care of a Scottish woman and have your heir get the Scottish culture this way. Those are long term solutions. Imprisoning the most troublesome Dukes and keeping them there is a good idea. Later you can release them and score some points for being merciful once you feel secure.

After your character has been on the throne a while things will calm down. It's going to be rough at first because of cultural differences and general lack of ties to the Scottish nobility though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 07, 2013, 11:23:34 AM
Possibly a little more work than you're looking for, but I'd absolutely love a mod that starts everyone off as an independent Count/ess with a single province.  Even more so if every county could have it's stats (wealth, supply, tech level etc) set to the same level.
Actually I think I know how to do that.  If I just delete all the dukes, kings, and emperors, the game might fill in all the remaining counties with randomly generated counts.  I'll try it this afternoon, if I can pull myself away from my actual game.

Though dutchies/kingdoms/empires de jure would still be built up in the same way.  I don't think it's possible to have such things be dynamic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Old Kank on January 07, 2013, 11:38:13 AM
I spent a little time browsing the game's files and modding of that sort seems simple enough to do. 

Speaking of modding CKII:

I'm pretty sure this was mentioned back when the game first started making the rounds, but for all the newcomers, there's a Game of Thrones mod (http://ckiiwiki.com/A_Game_of_Thrones) out.

I've never gotten around to playing the mod, but I've heard great, great things about it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 11:42:16 AM
Possibly a little more work than you're looking for, but I'd absolutely love a mod that starts everyone off as an independent Count/ess with a single province.  Even more so if every county could have it's stats (wealth, supply, tech level etc) set to the same level.
Actually I think I know how to do that.  If I just delete all the dukes, kings, and emperors, the game might fill in all the remaining counties with randomly generated counts.  I'll try it this afternoon, if I can pull myself away from my actual game.

Though dutchies/kingdoms/empires de jure would still be built up in the same way.  I don't think it's possible to have such things be dynamic.

I know that de jure [whatever] can change over the course of a game, although I never figured out the exact rules behind the mechanic.  I think that duchies with every title belonging to either you or one of your vassals become incorporated into your primary Kingdom after quite a while, provided that their current de jure Kingdom either doesn't exist or isn't part of your realm whatsoever.  I may have got it a bit wrong, but I definitely ended up with all the Welsh counties being de jure England a few times.

There's actually already a mod (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?638632-MOD-A-New-World-The-Dawn-of-Empires) that strips the vanilla de jure titles and starts everyone with a single county, but it comes with a lot of extra stuff that I dislike (unique religions and cultures for each county, a bizarre 'land grab' at the start of the game that forces you to go to war with random neighbours, and a few other oddities.

Speaking of modding CKII:

I'm pretty sure this was mentioned back when the game first started making the rounds, but for all the newcomers, there's a Game of Thrones mod (http://ckiiwiki.com/A_Game_of_Thrones) out.

I've never gotten around to playing the mod, but I've heard great, great things about it.

It's very obviously unfinished, but a lot of fun if you pick one of the 'right' people to play as.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 07, 2013, 01:06:11 PM
De jure doesn't change, but there's different levels of it, namely for dukes, kings, and emperors.  The kingdom de jure of England probably includes Wales.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 01:23:12 PM
De jure doesn't change, but there's different levels of it, namely for dukes, kings, and emperors.  The kingdom de jure of England probably includes Wales.

Wales is a separate de jure Kingdom, and de jure boundaries definitely can change.  I trust my memory enough to bet up to £1000 on this.

E: Googled it, I was right. (http://ckiiwiki.com/Assimilate)  It does take 100 years to happen though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 07, 2013, 07:13:35 PM
Hey guys, you should all come watch people do Speed Runs of old games for Cancer Donations. Viewership helps even if you can't donate.

They're doing Mario right now.


http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda (http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 07:19:04 PM
Dude, I was just about to crash out >:(
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 07, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
Dude, I was just about to crash out >:(

:D It's been fun to watch, totally worth staying up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 07:52:25 PM
Fair play, these guys are ridiculously good.  Do you know what the deal is with game requests, is there a list somewhere or something?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 07, 2013, 08:02:44 PM
Fair play, these guys are ridiculously good.  Do you know what the deal is with game requests, is there a list somewhere or something?

I think it's adding prize pools to upcoming races. Not really positive though. I've heard a lot of different game names though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 07, 2013, 08:14:17 PM
Everyone should buy "Don't Starve" off steam now :) It's crazy fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 07, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
Everyone should buy "Don't Starve" off steam now :) It's crazy fun.

Seconded!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: th3kaiser on January 07, 2013, 09:33:34 PM
God I love CK2. Trying out the CK2 Plus mod. Gender equality is pretty wacky.  And then there's the shattered kingdoms which breaks up everyone into single counties. Makes the game way more fun if you've conquest in mind. No more getting slaughtered by the HRE or Mongols.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 07, 2013, 10:23:57 PM
Once again, managed to carve out southern Iberia into a Kingdom.  Ruled for 52 years.  Had "Gender Equality" law and Elective Monarchy so they all got to vote on who got to be heir.

The most popular won when my ruler up and died suddenly during a war that the northern king of castillian had called on me.  He was getting his ass handed to him due to my invasion and the Islamic hordes that he'd kicked out coming back with a vengeance. 

And that's then it all fell apart.  Every time I use the Elective Monarchy, my initial realm disintegrates as gravelkind takes over and I'm left with NOTHING!  My ruler's older sister immediately (in one day) usurpers two Duchies from me, spawns a rebellion and gets my ruler excommunicated.  I finish off the Spanish King for a win and rush back home to put down this bitch of a sister.  She'd stolen the most developed duchy out from under me and took the lion's share of my army.  I called in several mercenary bands and was slowly winning when the Muslims declared a holy war on my Queen's only remaining personal demesne.  I'd gotten the Pope to re-instate me into the Faithful and tried to use my piety to get one the Templar Knights into my lands to fight the heathens.

No dice.  The Muslims took over (first) my little demesne and the game wouldn't let me summon the Templars.

The greed of one woman opened up the whole of Spain and doomed the hard work of almost half a century of Christian Kings' to nothing.

I'm taking my marbles and going back to Ireland!  The mainlanders play too rough.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on January 07, 2013, 10:30:30 PM
>.> You all should make a CK thread for all your CK stuff.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 07, 2013, 10:39:40 PM
It's the current past-time for some of us  :-\

X-Com was that for a little bit a while back, and previous games.

It'll change once we move on.

For example, anyone still playing the Tropico games?  I've only played 1 and 2 and was very entertained by being a Pirate.  Do the next couple games have anything like that in them?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 07, 2013, 11:42:36 PM
Always change gavelkind to ANYTHING else, or favor your first heir and give him his own fiefs before you die.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 08, 2013, 05:49:09 AM
Can I win the game as the Duchy of Brittany? Let's find out!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 08, 2013, 06:31:08 AM
Alas, that New World: Rise of Empires mod looks awesome and crashes every time I try to run it. Curse you!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 08, 2013, 09:22:56 PM
Everyone should buy "Don't Starve" off steam now :) It's crazy fun.

Seconded!

Luring pigmen away just to kill them is hilarious. What makes it even more hilarious is how the game displays their name the second they become your "friend" haha. My last victim was Constantine.

I've looked at their roadmap and I think they will be introducing a morality system soon.

My biggest problem now is stockpiling enough food so I can go do things that don't involve hunting for food.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 08, 2013, 11:34:02 PM
I played the beta and it was fun until it got boring, a day later. Has it become more than 'oh god keep looking for food or you will die overnight' yet? If so I might buy it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 09, 2013, 12:05:47 AM
It seems to still always be about food. I mean, I started to stockpile so I could go out and explore but there's only so much you can discover. They've got 6 more updates coming so we'll see how well this turns out. They've added a bit of terraforming right now but its only cosmetic. I think players want to build their own little fortresses :)

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 09, 2013, 06:35:01 AM
So it turns out that my (non-gamer) dad can beat me in pretty much any game :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 09, 2013, 10:52:12 AM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/

But...didn't Christmas just happen a few weeks ago?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 09, 2013, 11:30:25 AM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/

But...didn't Christmas just happen a few weeks ago?

Is this different from the Obsidian game that kickstarted a few million? I don't have a lot of faith in Obsidian. They can only blame publishers so many times before it becomes a case of cry wolf.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 09, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/fargo-details-torment-game-in-numenera-universe/

But...didn't Christmas just happen a few weeks ago?

Is this different from the Obsidian game that kickstarted a few million? I don't have a lot of faith in Obsidian. They can only blame publishers so many times before it becomes a case of cry wolf.

Yup.  RPS just did an interview with them.  I gotta make a cuppa before I read it though :)

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/09/planescape-torment-sequel/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 09, 2013, 02:00:38 PM
Wait this is Fargo :)

My bad for thinking it was Obsidian doing it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 09, 2013, 02:04:06 PM
Wait this is Fargo :)

My bad for thinking it was Obsidian doing it.

Yeah.  Can't say I share your cynicism towards Obsidian, but I'm glad InXile are doing this one too.

E: Although I really would prefer a proper turnbased combat system.  That's probably just a matter of taste though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on January 09, 2013, 02:50:54 PM
Wait this is Fargo :)

My bad for thinking it was Obsidian doing it.

Yeah.  Can't say I share your cynicism towards Obsidian, but I'm glad InXile are doing this one too.

E: Although I really would prefer a proper turnbased combat system.  That's probably just a matter of taste though.

Eh. Torment's not something I now look forward to because of its combat, anyway.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 09, 2013, 03:11:06 PM
Wait this is Fargo :)

My bad for thinking it was Obsidian doing it.

Yeah.  Can't say I share your cynicism towards Obsidian, but I'm glad InXile are doing this one too.

E: Although I really would prefer a proper turnbased combat system.  That's probably just a matter of taste though.

Eh. Torment's not something I now look forward to because of its combat, anyway.

A fair point :)

By the way, the creative lead is answering questions over here (http://www.formspring.me/CMcComb) if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on January 09, 2013, 05:14:05 PM
I'm glad its not turn based...  from what I know of the game so far, it's more about the role playing and flow of the story.  Turned based would stunt this.  While I LOVE turn based, I don't see this game being good for that.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on January 09, 2013, 05:29:06 PM
Wait this is Fargo :)

My bad for thinking it was Obsidian doing it.

Yeah.  Can't say I share your cynicism towards Obsidian, but I'm glad InXile are doing this one too.

E: Although I really would prefer a proper turnbased combat system.  That's probably just a matter of taste though.

Eh. Torment's not something I now look forward to because of its combat, anyway.

A fair point :)

By the way, the creative lead is answering questions over here (http://www.formspring.me/CMcComb) if anyone is interested.

I'm glad they're overthinking their alignment system well. Even the original torment has a number of rather silly choices in it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Tuannon on January 10, 2013, 02:06:38 AM
'classical' RPGs should all be turn based, because the games they are derivative from are all turn based.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 10, 2013, 02:39:51 AM
I've come to the conclusion that my playstyle in CK2 has evolved to be 'wrong'.  Gonna go back to roleplaying it instead of powergaming and going for total domination.  The game's kinda weird in that it's hard to learn and easy to master.

'classical' RPGs should all be turn based, because the games they are derivative from are all turn based.

It could be argued (although I am inclined to agree with you) that this was more a restriction imposed by the tabletop medium than a conscious design choice.  That said, I did occasionally find myself avoiding combat in PS:T because it was bloody horrible rather than for roleplaying purposes.

E: Maia looks like it's shaping up nicely and there should be an alpha release late Jan/early Feb.

(http://i.imgur.com/cDwvh.jpg) (http://i.imgur.com/cDwvh.jpg)

Colonist is a placeholder, click for embiggening.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 10, 2013, 03:38:53 AM
I've come to the conclusion that my playstyle in CK2 has evolved to be 'wrong'.  Gonna go back to roleplaying it instead of powergaming and going for total domination.  The game's kinda weird in that it's hard to learn and easy to master.


I've been playing with the Ck2+ (plus) mod lately, and have found the game much more enjoyable.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587854-CK2Plus-Balance-improvements-more-kingdoms-and-empires-more-ambitions-and-plots (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587854-CK2Plus-Balance-improvements-more-kingdoms-and-empires-more-ambitions-and-plots)

One major thing is that I've found they made it a lot harder to engineer the perfect heir.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 10, 2013, 04:02:44 AM
I've come to the conclusion that my playstyle in CK2 has evolved to be 'wrong'.  Gonna go back to roleplaying it instead of powergaming and going for total domination.  The game's kinda weird in that it's hard to learn and easy to master.


I've been playing with the Ck2+ (plus) mod lately, and have found the game much more enjoyable.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587854-CK2Plus-Balance-improvements-more-kingdoms-and-empires-more-ambitions-and-plots (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587854-CK2Plus-Balance-improvements-more-kingdoms-and-empires-more-ambitions-and-plots)

One major thing is that I've found they made it a lot harder to engineer the perfect heir.

I tried that and kinda bounced off it due to Holy Wars costing piety (bizarre design choice right there) quite a while back.  I'll give it another bash though :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 10, 2013, 09:40:37 AM
I've come to the conclusion that my playstyle in CK2 has evolved to be 'wrong'.  Gonna go back to roleplaying it instead of powergaming and going for total domination.  The game's kinda weird in that it's hard to learn and easy to master.


I've been playing with the Ck2+ (plus) mod lately, and have found the game much more enjoyable.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587854-CK2Plus-Balance-improvements-more-kingdoms-and-empires-more-ambitions-and-plots (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?587854-CK2Plus-Balance-improvements-more-kingdoms-and-empires-more-ambitions-and-plots)

One major thing is that I've found they made it a lot harder to engineer the perfect heir.

I tried that and kinda bounced off it due to Holy Wars costing piety (bizarre design choice right there) quite a while back.  I'll give it another bash though :)

There's an event choice in your plot tab to ask your religious leader for permission which bypasses that.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 10, 2013, 09:43:28 AM
XCOM's "Second Wave" options are pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 10, 2013, 12:30:10 PM
Are those supported or the modded in ones ?

Also am I. Am the only one who couldn't play past 30% of Borderlands 2?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Patuk on January 10, 2013, 01:09:30 PM
All the talk about this crusader kings II thing eventually reminded me of Total war: Rome.

.. Yeah I don't mind being broke when I got this, this stuff still is awesome.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: ghostymudy on January 10, 2013, 02:23:08 PM
All the talk about this crusader kings II thing eventually reminded me of Total war: Rome.

.. Yeah I don't mind being broke when I got this, this stuff still is awesome.

If you have an updated version of rome total war, I'd be happy to smash you on it one day.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 10, 2013, 02:31:08 PM
Are those supported or the modded in ones ?

I'm on the Xbox 360.  It is part of a standard patch that went out a few days ago.  No additional charge or anything.  I restarted on Classic with the following turned on (bolded):

Quote from: http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/01/08/solomon-vows-firaxis-on-xcoms-second-wave-add-on/
Here are those details of the Second Wave DLC, that should have patched into your Steam version by now.

    Damage Roulette: Weapons have a wider range of damage.
    New Economy: Randomized council member funding.
    Not Created Equally: Rookies will have random starting stats.
    Hidden Potential: As a soldier is promoted, stats increase randomly.

    Red Fog: Combat wounds will degrade the soldier’s mission stats.
    Absolutely Critical: A flanking shot guarantees a critical hit.
    The Greater Good: Psionics can only be learned from interrogating a psionic alien.

    Marathon: The game takes considerably longer to complete.
    Results Driven: A country offers less funding as its panic level increases.
    High Stakes: Random rewards for stopping alien abductions.

    Diminishing Returns: Increased cost of satellite construction.
    More Than Human: The psionic gift is extremely rare.

    And once you’ve completed the game on Impossible difficulty (which seems something of a contradiction):
    War Weariness: Funding goes down over time.
    E-115: Elerium degrades over time.
    Total Loss: Lose all soldier gear upon death.
    Alternate Sources: The power source cost to build facilities increases dramatically.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 10, 2013, 03:46:59 PM
All the talk about this crusader kings II thing eventually reminded me of Total war: Rome.

.. Yeah I don't mind being broke when I got this, this stuff still is awesome.

The new upcoming Total War: Rome II is supposed to have more intrigue in it according to the teaser trailer.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 10, 2013, 03:53:39 PM
I'd like the Total War games' campaigns more if it was less...war. Does that make sense? I get it's a game about battlefield tactics but I love the intrigue and state politics.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 11, 2013, 06:00:00 AM
Just stick Total War's battles in a CK2 game and I'll never need to leave my house ever again.

E: Super Hexagon is bastard and I love it.  It has the Dark Souls quality.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 11, 2013, 12:48:03 PM
According to posters on the CK2 forums, new DLC hits Monday. The republic one.


Patch that comes out Monday:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?657220-1.09-Patch-Notes&s=f223b449596ce37946d7e167d873c0cf
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 11, 2013, 12:51:26 PM
Sadness.  I have no internet money until Tuesday :(

Ultimogeniture and Tanistry sound cool.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 11, 2013, 04:49:42 PM
My favorite Total War is Empire, because you could buy (and give away) lands. I loved becoming a mighty trade empire and forming an Empire through just owning ALL the money. I gave like, all of Russia away to the United States as the indians once, purely because they waged war on me and if you wage war on me, I am going to ironically ruin modern history.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 11, 2013, 09:44:23 PM
Hey guys, you should all come watch people do Speed Runs of old games for Cancer Donations. Viewership helps even if you can't donate.

They're doing Mario right now.


http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda (http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda)

This Ocarina of Time run is sick. He did half of the young-link levels as adult link. He's totally glitchign all over the game, lol.


Prize for this block, for donating, is a stainless steel Hyrulean shield, and the Master Sword in a frame.



Edit: They just hit 300k in donations. Damn.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on January 11, 2013, 10:46:39 PM
For everyone who's ever wondered what it would be like to have a massively attractive body :

Solar 2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/97000/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 11, 2013, 10:50:37 PM
For everyone who's ever wondered what it would be like to have a massively attractive body :

Solar 2 (http://store.steampowered.com/app/97000/)


lol This looks like it could be some fun.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoltan on January 11, 2013, 11:57:39 PM
Excited for CK2's upcoming DLC, of course.

Empire: Total War with DarthMod on it is still one of the best games I've ever played.

The Walking Dead made me cry when I beat it last night.  :'( The point and click gameplay is supremely "meh", but I think I fell in love with it because I let myself get invested in the story and characters very quickly. Definitely glad I picked it up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 13, 2013, 12:37:39 AM
Walking Dead telltale game gets really good a :-\fter the second episode. Right when all the crazy gets thrown in.

It's the living, not the dead, you got to worry about.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 13, 2013, 05:49:26 AM
I've played 38 hours of Mount & Blade: Warband and only just found out that you can give your troops commands while in battle :-[
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 13, 2013, 07:56:54 AM
Walking Dead telltale game gets really good a :-\fter the second episode. Right when all the crazy gets thrown in.

It's the living, not the dead, you got to worry about.

I'm on episode 4 now. Amazing game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 12:09:15 AM
I'm LOLing at this. Post from steam user. Zoom in and notice the parents.

(http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/939261051793480916/52AECDAD84913DF631A0C1C93FA4F959D10FC90C/)




Link to steam post:

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3017312
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 09:25:41 AM
Dammnit it's past 3 pm CET and still no Republic expansion for CK2.

GIVE IT IT TO ME NOW GIVE IT TO ME NOW GIVE IT TO ME NOW!

EDIT: Looks like Paradox let a playable Patrician slip through. The Kingdom of Pisa has a count who is also a patrician. You can play him without getting the DLC. The Republic UI pops up as well haha.

Wierd, it looks like it's a Kingdom with the King as a dodge...

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 14, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
Who cares about Pisa?  I just want Venice.

E: Apparently you can become a feudal lord after starting as a republic.  It'll be interesting to see how interconnected the two 'modes' are.

2.E: Paradox gets all the best Q&As (http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?657811-The-Republic-Expansion-%96-Q-amp-A)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 12:40:43 PM
Yes, you can "rise" from patrician to Emperor of Italy.

So just playing the Patrician count in Pisa for a little bit I noticed either:

(a) Without the DLC you're still limited.
(b) There isn't as much to do as a Patrician.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 14, 2013, 12:43:45 PM
Bear in mind that there might not be much to do because you don't have the DLC yet.  There's generally a few features not included in the patches.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 01:33:16 PM
According to this post you can get a Steam code off another website... I'm a little concerned though.. still waiting on Steam to update.

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?657811-The-Republic-Expansion-%E2%80%93-Q-amp-A&s=399550229d7cfc3b94696e1a85e8ba5e&p=14863984&viewfull=1#post14863984

EDIT: Done, bought The Republic, Meditarranean portraits, and songs of prosperity. They give you steam keys for all 3 and 20% off. Works like a charm.

EDIT2: I have no idea how to play this new expansion :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 14, 2013, 02:25:39 PM
Sheesh... I still haven't even finished a "normal" game, let alone gotten around to playing a Byzantine or a Muslim.  Now there's MORE?

I think I'm starting to get a handle on running a kingdom, though.  There are still civil wars in Scotland, but the last few have been small and/or initiated by myself (uprising while I'm trying to revoke titles).  I've divided up the region nicely so that no one vassal has much power.  The strongest of them is at like 16% of my realm's power, and the two strongest following him are both my sons.

Meanwhile, I've been strengthening my own holdings in Ireland.  I have 7 castles (actually 9 at the moment, but I'm saving them for two sons yet to have come of age) that are raking in LOTS of money, not to mention I can call up almost 4000 personal levies in addition to my standing army of 3000.

Sadly, my current son isn't very impressive.  When I first gave him some land, the Scottish nobles ate him alive and I had to give him some more.  I've since changed the law to elective monarchy so that I can choose my second son as my heir, as he has better stats and has not only held off those trying to take his land away but is starting to expand.  Good lad, he.


EDIT: Meanwhile, a general strategy question: as a king, why do I need dukes?  It seems like all they do is take a huge cut of my taxes and make civil wars bigger and messier.  The optimal kingdom configuration would seem to be just having a legion of individual counts to manage holdings outside my demesne.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 02:46:14 PM
I think the answer is it becomes hard as you try to keep vassals from becoming Dukes.

You'd need medium authority at least, to keep private wars from happening. Then you'd have to make sure all your counts only have enough territory not to usurp or create a ducal title.

Finally, with 1.09 the demense size has been reduced so now you can hoard less counties and will find you'll need at least some barons running additional castles in your counties.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 14, 2013, 02:59:26 PM
Feh.  I like my castles.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 06:41:31 PM
With 1.09 you're lucky if you can have nine holds in your demesne. This is with a Midas Touched noble.

What you want is weak and divided vassals. More of them the better.

Do you have the Legacy of Rome DLC? With faction gameplay it makes it harder for your vassals to pose a threat unless they can all unit against you.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 14, 2013, 07:53:39 PM
Steam hasn't updated with the patch and DLC yet I think. Can anyone confirm this isn't the case and I am just retarded?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 14, 2013, 07:57:38 PM
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
My Republics impression. After a few hours of play.

I picked Venice and the family which had a Doge installed there. The first thing I noticed is that I could create the Dutchy of Venice but was worried that would suddenly make me a Duke and turn Venice feudal.

I honestly have no clue how to play this expansion. I started littering the counties near Venice with trade posts. I would get a bonus for being near the capital as well as a bonus for the trade zone (since Venice had more trade posts there than any of the other Republics). I ended up making 50+ gold a month like that.

Then I went into the intrigue window and wanted to see what was available. Turns out as Doge I have the ability to seize trade posts of other families in Venice. I think the only requirement is that I have a trade post within the same trade zone as them.

Seizing is pretty easy. Anything over 150% plot power with 3 backers guarantees it. With less plot power you end up in a bidding war where you can spend hundreds of gold to seize the trade post.

Turns out the King of Croatia really didn't like me. He burned down one of my trade posts. This pissed me off, so I decided to seize one of his coastal cities. A few hundred gold sunk into some mercenaries and I got the city.

Now what though? I'm pretty sure he can still burn down the trade post in the same county, and the city does not generate more gold than a trade post. Like I said, I still don't understand all the mechanics.

Going to try again, maybe this time as Doge I'll focus on building up Venice, and just seize trade posts where I find them.

Unlike Feudal lords you spend a lot of time just making and spending money.

EDIT2: OK, so what I should do is declare a second war to get the whole county once I have a city there. Just reading up on the dev diaries.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 08:01:32 PM
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.

If you read my earlier post you can buy the Steam keys from a third party website. It's totally legit.

1.09 already hit steam. You just need the keys for Republics and the two media DLCs if you want to buy them too.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 14, 2013, 08:04:53 PM
GMG sold out a couple of hours ago :-\
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 14, 2013, 08:21:37 PM
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 14, 2013, 08:26:04 PM
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.

http://www.pcgamestore.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-republic

Buy it.  You'll get a game code after buying that will let you activate "The Republic " on Steam.

Edit: There are bugs.  Don't try creating a Custom Ruler with "Ruler Designer" in Gotland (the Swedish Republic).  You'll get in and immediately die, every time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 14, 2013, 08:27:49 PM
I CAN'T FIND IT YET.

http://www.pcgamestore.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-republic

Buy it.  You'll get a game code after buying that will let you activate "The Republic " on Steam.

Don't buy it.  I've read in multiple places that they've been giving out duplicate keys for the last hour or so.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 14, 2013, 09:18:06 PM
Just went into a war with Pisa over a trade post which would have linked my holy conquest trade posts back to Venice and I lost.

Damn!

Micromanaging all the trade posts gets unwieldly. I'd really like a way to issue build orders over multiple holdings.

EDIT: I WILL COMPLETELY WRECK YOUR DYNASTY IF YOU FUCK WITH MY TRADE POSTS. DON'T FUCK WITH MY TRADE POSTS.

:)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 14, 2013, 09:37:56 PM
God, you scare me.


Marry me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: boog on January 15, 2013, 12:06:55 AM
gdit, CK2 better not go on sale while I'm birthing my child.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 15, 2013, 01:57:04 AM
Benghazi won't stop rebelling. It's costing more in mercenary wages to keep the peasants down than what my trade post there makes in a year. Not cost effective.

(http://i.imgur.com/9hJ8F.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 15, 2013, 02:03:45 AM
Got a copy through Gamestop.  I have no idea what I'm doing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 15, 2013, 02:10:17 AM
Quick tips:

* As Doge you can steal trade posts belonging to other families in your republic if you have an adjacent trade post. You do this through the plots interface. Do yourself a favor and excommunicate the head of the family before to make it cheaper or expect to spend a lot of gold in a bidding war (500g in some cases).

* As a Patrician you can declare war on anyone for a coastal city. You can then declare war again for the entire county. Owning your own coastal counties means you can setup a trade post and not worry about the locals burning it down and looting it. You can also use Holy Wars like any other noble.

* The more trade posts you have in a trade zone, the larger bonus you get. The patrician with the most trade posts in a zone owns that zone (which I believe confers a higher bonus). I think that bonus works for anyone in your republic but I haven't taken a look at the stats yet.

* There's a "connected to capital" bonus on trade posts but I don't think its working properly.

* Upgrade trade posts which are in counties you or your vassals control for even more gold income.

* Make use of your chancellor to improve diplomatic relations with nobles whom you setup trade posts under. Kings, and Emperors usually since they're at the top and make Embargo decisions.

* Invite debutantes and marry them to your family instead of pay large dowries for noble marriages.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 15, 2013, 03:42:55 AM
Thanks for the tips!  Trade zone = watery bit, right?  Does it matter if they're in a continuous line or anything?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 15, 2013, 09:19:30 AM
Yes watery bit.

I think it does matter but the "connected to capital" bonus doesn't seem to work if they're all connected. I'm still waiting for the wikis to get updated by people who go through the rule files.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 15, 2013, 09:37:56 AM
Starting to get the hang of things a bit now, but I'm still unsure if my efforts are better spent on gaining territory for my republic or stealing it from the other members.  The latter seems more profitable, but that's all kinds of unintuitive.  There also seems to be a weird bug where trade zones don't seem to register as belonging to your republic if you have the same amount of trade posts as another member.

I am loving the emphasis on money though.  It's pretty neat being able to afford so many mercs at the drop of a hat.  Does anyone know if the bride price works the same when you're a noble?  Setting up some baby factories could be amazingly profitable if it does.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 15, 2013, 09:57:06 AM
The bride price is likely like that. The game has been rebalanced to make mercenaries more relevant for both nobles and patricians.

Remember though, if you marry your daughters off to low borns it will give their successors weak claims which can be pressed in a succession crisis.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 15, 2013, 07:08:03 PM
LC,

I'm starting to think Paradox dropped the ball with his expansion.

Are you having fun with it? I'm loathe to start a new game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 15, 2013, 08:56:46 PM
I am so confused at this expac.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on January 15, 2013, 09:24:48 PM
Man, you guys just can't stop talking about that overly complicated medieval incest sim!

While I was internet-less in the last few weeks, I must have scored at least 1000 hours on Mount & Blade: Warband - Prophesy of Pendor.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 15, 2013, 09:59:11 PM
Man, you guys just can't stop talking about that overly complicated medieval incest sim!

While I was internet-less in the last few weeks, I must have scored at least 1000 hours on Mount & Blade: Warband - Prophesy of Pendor.

Never played that mod, but fathom me this: why is it the second you go to the options in Warband and set the incoming damage to 1/1 for your character as opposed to 1/4 or 1/5 of damage, you suddenly get one shotted in the initial charge?

What I'm trying to say is, in order to survive a battle the game treats your character to special magical armor.

At least my medieval incest sim doesn't cheat :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on January 15, 2013, 10:15:18 PM
Never played that mod, but fathom me this: why is it the second you go to the options in Warband and set the incoming damage to 1/1 for your character as opposed to 1/4 or 1/5 of damage, you suddenly get one shotted in the initial charge?

What I'm trying to say is, in order to survive a battle the game treats your character to special magical armor.

At least my medieval incest sim doesn't cheat :)


I'm not sure what you mean, if you set it to 1/1 then you have to expect full realism of wounds, and charging into a bunch of people with firearms and bows will probably do that to you irl.. Starting it with 1/4 is to actually give new players a chance to survive the intro, yeah :) It's not so bad when your army is in the 70+ if you're not the first guy charging toward archers and musketeers.

But to be honest, the game is pretty crap if you play it vanilla, not going to lie. The game has some awesome mods, like the one I mentioned, and gives you a much better single player storyline, troop balance and such.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 15, 2013, 11:13:50 PM
Not really a fan of "The Republic."  Interesting mechanics and what not, but it didn't really add anything to the overall game.

I'm playing feudal until my favorite mods update.

So far, on a new game, I managed to unite Ireland through marriage and conquest..but my only son died from sickness, leaving me with daughters.  I took a wife in my middle age, figuring that I was safe.

Wrong.  And of course, my only child was a boy.  And of course I then died from the first sickness I catch at age 52, leaving a babe-king not yet even a year old.

The blood of Irishmen is thick on the land from what is now 32 years of near-constant civil wars.  The new King, during a time of peace, joined the 2nd Crusade for the Holy Land and did what his father could not: Became King of Jerusalem.  In the mean time, he has to constantly fight off wars for changes in law and factions that insist on trying to prop-up his eldest sister as a puppet Queen of Ireland.  The poor woman is tougher than she looks and has the soul of a saint (seriously.  She's humble, chaste, kind, charitable, gregarious, content and shy).  She cheerfully mentored me as a child and youth and holds zero ill-will against me, despite the frequent trips to my dungeon (usually for something less than a day's stay) due to me putting down, executing or banishing all those who keep trying to use her as a figurehead.

Prideful nobles!  Leave the poor woman in peace in her old age!  She's survived the death of both her husbands and all her children and grandchildren save two, who I've set up as minor kings in Jerusalem for being the only ones of my noble kindred who have remained loyal to me throughout all my wars.

Apparently, I haven't learned a thing about succession wars despite my life-long experience with the after-effects of my own kingly-investiture.  You see, I married a grand-princess of the Byzantine Empire.  I married her for her brains (genius trait) but she turned out to be a fine looking woman with a golden tongue (high personal diplomacy and intrigue) but still holds a strong claim to the Byzantine Throne and has something of a temper and enjoys inflicting pain (impaler, wroth and cruel).

We have 6 sons..and one daughter, aged 2 months.  The first child is the only genius out of the lot, so if he isn't wise enough to start killing off his younger brothers when he comes of age, I may just have to pull out my murder-knife and start practicing eugenics.

..if I can survive the thrice-yearly assassination attempts and de-populate half the noble houses in Ireland.

This nice guy (charitable, kind and humble.  My sister taught me well) is going to finish anything but last.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on January 15, 2013, 11:17:45 PM
My problem with Prophecy of Pendor, when I tried it, was the fact that early on, I'd get matched against large numbers of plate-armored knights who would just utterly destroy my ragtag mercenary band. Sure, it's historically accurate, but it's not fun gameplay wise.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on January 15, 2013, 11:37:21 PM
My problem with Prophecy of Pendor, when I tried it, was the fact that early on, I'd get matched against large numbers of plate-armored knights who would just utterly destroy my ragtag mercenary band. Sure, it's historically accurate, but it's not fun gameplay wise.

The "hero" armies that pop up with 500+ plate armored knights and elves are quite easy to avoid even with my ~100 infantries army.. It's basically the same strategy as any other mods at first, fight the bandits, get your level up, slowly increase your army, team up with a nation, etc..
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on January 15, 2013, 11:45:26 PM
My problem was small roaming bands of armored knight women and crazy shit like that who would obliterate me from horseback without taking any damage.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 15, 2013, 11:59:42 PM
Okay, I must brag. This is with the ck2 plus mod. I had to take Finland and the the Eastern Baltic (ie Lithuania) from the Golden Horde. Hungary (Which is really big this game) and the HRE really came in handy as allies.

The Swedish Empire consists of Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and Lithuania.  ;D


Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 16, 2013, 08:23:28 AM
I was just reading up on how it's possible to "Mend the Great Schism" in the Christian church if you own the Legacy of Rome DLC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4PAYq3KHYo

EDIT:

Starting a new CK2 game in Ireland. Going to make all my boys train with my Marshal and send them all at the head of my armies :D

The one who shows great strength gets to be my successor through elective monarchy. Long live the Kingdom of Ireland.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 16, 2013, 11:13:51 PM
WHAT.

So, in my game (I'm Scotland, by way of Ireland still), I took a look around and noticed that the Kaiser is heir to the Byzantine Empire.

 :o :o :o


Also, less dramatically but more immediately relevant, England has become a theocracy.  The current Bishop-King is a huge tyrant.  He smashed my borders pretty hard.  Also, all of his vassals HATE him.  I don't understand why there isn't a revolt.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 16, 2013, 11:28:23 PM
WHAT.

So, in my game (I'm Scotland, by way of Ireland still), I took a look around and noticed that the Kaiser is heir to the Byzantine Empire.

 :o :o :o


Also, less dramatically but more immediately relevant, England has become a theocracy.  The current Bishop-King is a huge tyrant.  He smashed my borders pretty hard.  Also, all of his vassals HATE him.  I don't understand why there isn't a revolt.

About the HRE Byzantine empire thing. I played a Von Hapsburg game where I was emperor and was declared heir to the Byzantine Empire as well. Something weird happened when I was supposed to inherit and the empires immediately split with the next in line (Not of my house) inheriting. It created all kinds of weirdness where I controlled a few counties in the midst of the Byzantine empire though. I looked and looked to try to find out why that happened and couldn't figure it out at the time.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 17, 2013, 12:01:07 AM
Nope, dude got the whole thing.

Now it's the HOLY SHIT Roman Empire.

Also, the English revolt began.  I pitched in with the rebels just because having a unified tyrannical England like that seems really bad for me, and it seemed like I had no way to actually interact with a theocracy diplomatically.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 17, 2013, 12:08:01 AM
I went from being a control freak Liege to just saying fuck it and lowering Crown authority for a generation or two. Works wonders. Let the wretches fight it out themselves.

The second the Dukes get too uppity, I lower the authority, quell the rebellions with mercenaries, revoke all fucking titles and destroy them. Does that piss them off? Sure, but I make sure they go into that cell with only a tiny hole for sunlight so it doesn't matter. Then a new generation of aspiring nobles slowly grows and I crank authority back up for a generation or two.

Rinse and repeat.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 17, 2013, 01:40:17 AM
I went from being a control freak Liege to just saying fuck it and lowering Crown authority for a generation or two. Works wonders. Let the wretches fight it out themselves.

The second the Dukes get too uppity, I lower the authority, quell the rebellions with mercenaries, revoke all fucking titles and destroy them. Does that piss them off? Sure, but I make sure they go into that cell with only a tiny hole for sunlight so it doesn't matter. Then a new generation of aspiring nobles slowly grows and I crank authority back up for a generation or two.

Rinse and repeat.



Am I the only person who actually tries to keep his/her vassals happy? (albeit sometimes it just can't be done) When the rebellions come, I tend to have more supporters than rebels. If for some reason a rebel has territory not De Jure part of his Duchy (which probably happened when I wasn't King) then I take one county and leave them to rot in the hopes that their heir is smarter. If I'm pressed for cash, I can just ransom them. Usually no one has the stones to rebel again during that king's reign.

I will, however, say that I had one rebellion per generation following the creation of my Swedish Empire except for maybe one of my Emperors. Like I said, though, I had more on my side than not. The only one that got even close to succeeding I called in Hungary for aid and they had my back. High Crown Authority and Crown levy privileges along with Primogeniture succession caused more negatives than positives. I also kept getting rather poor base diplomacy with my first borns. Second and third sons, now, they kept popping as geniuses and everything. (Yes, I selectively bred with geniuses in order to produce more in my line. The problem was they didn't show up as the first borns, so once I was out of elective I had a grand time watching my ineffectual kings employ their much more capable brothers as Marshals, Chancellors, and the like.) I actually like Elective Monarchies sometimes, but I felt the Swedish Empire should have Primogeniture for kicks. Before that, it was a tradition to elect the most capable of my house, even if he was of a different branch.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on January 17, 2013, 08:27:50 AM
Ok, what game is that with marriages and assassinations and mercenaries? (don't kill me for not having the patience to find the first post mentioning it)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 17, 2013, 08:40:01 AM
Ok, what game is that with marriages and assassinations and mercenaries? (don't kill me for not having the patience to find the first post mentioning it)

Crusader Kings 2, my friend.

It's "A Song of Ice and Fire"-style rulership play during the Crusade years.

..and if you get an urge for actual Song of Ice and Fire play, there's a mod that changes everything to Westeros and you can conspire in the Kingdoms to your heart's content.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on January 17, 2013, 09:58:31 AM
Thanks. I'm not a huge fan of strategy games but all these stories made me interested in this one.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 17, 2013, 12:21:22 PM
Thanks. I'm not a huge fan of strategy games but all these stories made me interested in this one.

Do yourself a favor, buy it off Steam with the Legacy of Rome DLC. The others, at this point, are optional I think. It goes on sale every now and then. It was 75% off before the Steam sale a month ago.

And Doomdark from Paradox mentioned a new patch late next week to fix issues in 1.09.

EDIT: Well shit:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?658342-Post-your-Republican-Empire.&s=d3d6d43d3ce7bbc014fdaa84daba3762

Guess you can build entire empires as a Republic. Apparently doomstack of mercenaries FTW.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 17, 2013, 12:51:13 PM
Someone please help me out on CK2.  I've read a couple posts about people being the "king of Ireland" which has me wondering what I am doing wrong?  I have been playing in Ireland over and over, but never have I found a way to become a king.  I conquer all the territiories on the island, but never get anything other than being a count, a duke, or an earl.  There is no king of Ireland, that I can find, at the start of the game, so is tehre some way to elevate to the title of king?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 17, 2013, 01:02:16 PM
There should be a thing at the top that lets you create the title
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 17, 2013, 01:08:58 PM
There should be a thing at the top that lets you create the title

Top of which dialogue?  Laws and succession?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 17, 2013, 01:13:40 PM
Big buttony thing next to all the others
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on January 17, 2013, 01:23:29 PM
Can I play as a Targaryen and wed brothers and sisters and torture my own people?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 17, 2013, 01:39:57 PM
Can I play as a Targaryen and wed brothers and sisters and torture my own people?

You can inbreed yes, and you'll end up eventually with people dying from it. Though there are some advantages there you'll find like maintaining all claims within your dynasty.

There are events for torture when you have the right traits.

I haven't played the Westros mod much but it has these events and more (I felt it was just a vanity mod tbh, CK2 vanilla is incredible enough).

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on January 17, 2013, 01:41:33 PM
Can I play as a Targaryen and wed brothers and sisters and torture my own people?

Man, you guys just can't stop talking about that overly complicated medieval incest sim!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 17, 2013, 01:51:03 PM
Well it's an amazing incest simulator.  I can see why so many of us love this game: murder, corruption, and betrayal are all coded game mechanics.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 17, 2013, 02:08:38 PM
Someone please help me out on CK2.  I've read a couple posts about people being the "king of Ireland" which has me wondering what I am doing wrong?  I have been playing in Ireland over and over, but never have I found a way to become a king.  I conquer all the territiories on the island, but never get anything other than being a count, a duke, or an earl.  There is no king of Ireland, that I can find, at the start of the game, so is tehre some way to elevate to the title of king?

To become King of Ireland, do the following:

1. Capture enough land to usurp the title to, or create, 3 ducal titles, all of which must be held by your character.

2. Click on one of your counties.  In the information panel that pops up, you'll see a little flag that shows the name of the county and what duchy it normally belongs to.  Clicking on either one will bring up the menu that allows you to establish duchies and kingdoms or usurp titles.  All of these options have a cost associated with them.

3.  Once you have 3 ducal titles held by your character, go into the menu described above and click on the "de jure" box.  This will bring up several flags above the box that shows, from left to right, what kingdom/empire it belongs to, followed by duchy, county, etc.  Click on the icon for the Kingdom of Ireland (looks like a green harp).  You'll have a button on the left that lights up, saying "create,"  if you have enough gold to do so (generally around 300 or a little less, depending on how much land you control).  If it does not light up, you do not have the requirements needed to create it.  Hovering over the button will tell you what you need to do.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 17, 2013, 02:10:28 PM
Just a nitpick to what Pale Horse said, you need to control the counties. That means their are held by yourself or your vassals.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 17, 2013, 03:47:48 PM
Excellent.  Thank you for that info.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 18, 2013, 11:13:09 AM
Almost used up wife #2 and I have 8 daughters, no sons.  Now I kinda get how Henry VIII felt.  >:( >:( >:(

Getting rather old myself, so plan B is in progress.  The current list of succession is rather uninspiring.  Eldest nephew's highest stat is 8 with all sorts of poor character traits.  One of my nephews actually has a rather impressive genius son, though, with a military stat of 24.  So I've switched back to elective monarchy and nominated that nephew for succession.  Meanwhile, going to try to kill him so I can then nominate his son instead.

Once I get that all sorted out I think it may be time to make a real push at England.  On the game ledger they have more than twice as many soldiers as me, but in the last all-out war (I was helping some English rebels gain independance) I kicked the Bishop-King's arse through a combination of mercenaries, superior generals, and superior tactics.  Also imagine I could get the rebels to join in again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 18, 2013, 11:57:04 AM
Very excited. Too bad it won't be out until 2015 at the earliest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99qJGrPNLs

@ Moe

I have permission from the Pope to invade the HRE which I plan to do right after work:

(http://i.imgur.com/hZ92s.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 18, 2013, 12:00:33 PM
Thank you, again, to those who helped me become king of Ireland.  Now I can keep Scotland at bay...
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 18, 2013, 12:30:57 PM
XCOM:

I've finally managed to get to laser weapons and carapace armor on Ironman Classic with most of the Second Wave options turned on.  After many failed attempts in several other starting areas, I finally started in North America again, and tried new tactics for my soldiers.  For the first 10 or so missions, I aim to bring back as few corpses and intact equipment as possible...my main goal is to bring back my soldiers alive and promoted (which means grenade and rocket spam to ensure the quick deaths of as many aliens as possible). Third-tier for all classes really makes a difference.  I also decided early on to write off Europe and Asia, and settle with keeping the Americas and Africa for those bonuses offered.

So far, so good.  We haven't captured an alien yet, but we're going to do that soon!

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 18, 2013, 12:42:22 PM
Yeah, because of DLCs and patches there's quite a few games that I need to revisit sometime:
XCOM
Mass Effect
Civilization 5 (though CK2 scratches that itch pretty thoroughly...)

Also I need to finish Walking Dead, and I hear they're making a Season 2 for it.

Also also I believe the next season of Halo 4 Spartan Ops starts up soon.  Need to see if any of my friends are willing to pick that up again.  Though, if they're not, I actually found that playing Sparton Ops solo on easy mode can be quite enjoyable.  Makes you feel like you're Master Chief in one very long cutscene.  The dialog doesn't make sense, though.

Also also also I probably need to play Skyrim.  I heard it was very good, but it came out while I was on a vow of no video games until a certain list of large home improvement tasks got completed.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 18, 2013, 12:44:38 PM
Man, Cortana has some serious boobs.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 18, 2013, 12:47:36 PM
Man, Cortana has some serious boobs.

Don't fool yourself.  They're made out of silicon.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 18, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
I know the developers seriously considered making them jiggle.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 18, 2013, 01:14:01 PM
I know the developers seriously considered making them jiggle.

Why would that make them more attractive?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Ghost on January 18, 2013, 01:16:52 PM
i would do her
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on January 18, 2013, 01:26:47 PM
I don't want to have to explain the joke, but I will if I am forced to do so
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 18, 2013, 01:39:50 PM
I know the developers seriously considered making them jiggle.

Why would that make them more attractive?

Probably because boobs naturally do some jiggling when moving about.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 18, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
Ugh.  SimCity is making me sad.  EA seems to be doing everything they can to ruin a very promising game with heavy-handed DRM.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on January 18, 2013, 04:09:00 PM
Ugh.  SimCity is making me sad.  EA seems to be doing everything they can to ruin a very promising game with heavy-handed DRM.

I've been quite worried about that also.  I don't mind the online play crap, but using Origin?  I don't even want to touch it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 18, 2013, 04:24:19 PM
CK2 question. One of my relatives and vassals a Duke has Friend: +100 on his opinion modifier. Where does this come from? The feast event?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 18, 2013, 05:10:50 PM
CK2 question. One of my relatives and vassals a Duke has Friend: +100 on his opinion modifier. Where does this come from? The feast event?

Yes, it can happen at feasts for sure. I believe that's by far the most common place for you to make a friend, but I think there may be another way. I can't recall.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Harmless on January 18, 2013, 07:19:31 PM
Any Natural Selection 2 players out there? I've been playing it more recently, they did a few things to it that bumped up its coolness.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 19, 2013, 11:33:34 AM
I've started playing other games again, which probably doesn't say great things about The Republic.  It's not bad, just not quite to the standard I've come to expect from Paradox.  Then again, maybe the changes it makes to feudal play will help, I'm yet to check those out.

Dragon's Dogma has drawn me in again.  It's really quite amazing just how much the game changes depending on your vocation.  It has the best magic I've come across and there's even a fairly decent stealth game hidden in there.

Also, Antichamber comes out on the 31st and everyone should give it a try.  It utterly bamboozled me at Rezzed.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 19, 2013, 12:02:49 PM
I've started playing other games again, which probably doesn't say great things about The Republic.  It's not bad, just not quite to the standard I've come to expect from Paradox.  Then again, maybe the changes it makes to feudal play will help, I'm yet to check those out.

The changes to Feudal so far have been confusing. I will get gifts from Republics occassionaly and if my opinion of them is low I will have events which let me burn down one of their trade posts.

I think Paradox really need to re-evaluate their design choices.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 19, 2013, 02:30:00 PM
How to stop Steam being so laggy: Control Panel > Internet Options > Connections Tab > LAN Settings > Uncheck Automatically Detect Settings
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on January 19, 2013, 10:16:06 PM
This makes me glad I have been offline on steam to keep playing 1.08 Ck2. Thanks for the heads up on The Republic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 21, 2013, 02:29:50 PM
Does anyone want a Steam key for Europa Universalis III Chronicles?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 21, 2013, 05:22:37 PM
Does anyone want a Steam key for Europa Universalis III Chronicles?

Sure. Does it have a dynasty system?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 21, 2013, 05:33:44 PM
Does anyone want a Steam key for Europa Universalis III Chronicles?

Sure. Does it have a dynasty system?

Sent it via PM :)

And yeah monarchs belong to dynasties, although they're far less important than in CK2.  EU3 is a pretty different beast.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 22, 2013, 10:04:41 AM
I've started playing other games again, which probably doesn't say great things about The Republic.  It's not bad, just not quite to the standard I've come to expect from Paradox.  Then again, maybe the changes it makes to feudal play will help, I'm yet to check those out.

The changes to Feudal so far have been confusing. I will get gifts from Republics occassionaly and if my opinion of them is low I will have events which let me burn down one of their trade posts.

I think Paradox really need to re-evaluate their design choices.

I haven't figured out the TP features yet.  Obviously, I can't build them, correct?  I mean, playing as Ireland, I'm assuming b/c I am feudal that they are not an option for me.  Another question I have about general gameplay: Sometimes, when I raise my armies, some dukes will not raise soldiers for me, even with 100 opinion of me.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to why this might be?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 22, 2013, 10:28:12 AM

I haven't figured out the TP features yet.  Obviously, I can't build them, correct?

Only Republics can build TPs. They'll reach you eventually but you're far enough away that it will be a hundred years or so after the start of the game.

Quote from: Maker
I mean, playing as Ireland, I'm assuming b/c I am feudal that they are not an option for me.  Another question I have about general gameplay: Sometimes, when I raise my armies, some dukes will not raise soldiers for me, even with 100 opinion of me.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to why this might be?

If you click on their demense counties you can check to see their current soldier count. There's a garrison meter, and an army meter. You'll notice some of it is in red the other green. The red part is what he must maintain for you and raise for you.

This is based on opinion and the levy size you set in your laws and your crown authority. If you're at 'Autonomous Vassals' he doesn't need to raise anything for you.

http://crusaderkings-two.wikia.com/wiki/Crown_Authority
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 22, 2013, 10:36:51 AM
If you click on their demense counties you can check to see their current soldier count. There's a garrison meter, and an army meter. You'll notice some of it is in red the other green. The red part is what he must maintain for you and raise for you.

This is based on opinion and the levy size you set in your laws and your crown authority. If you're at 'Autonomous Vassals' he doesn't need to raise anything for you.

Yes.  I understand that much.  That's where my confusion comes in.  I show full green bar, size looks corerct.  However, despite showing X number of soldiers available, the "Raise Levy" button is greyed out.  Opinion of me is 100.  My only two guesses are 1)opinions go above 100 behind the scenes and he likes my opponent better than me, or 2)he is allied, somehow, with my opponent.  Are either of these possible reasons why he won't tgive me his damned troops?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 22, 2013, 10:40:10 AM
If you click on their demense counties you can check to see their current soldier count. There's a garrison meter, and an army meter. You'll notice some of it is in red the other green. The red part is what he must maintain for you and raise for you.

This is based on opinion and the levy size you set in your laws and your crown authority. If you're at 'Autonomous Vassals' he doesn't need to raise anything for you.

Yes.  I understand that much.  That's where my confusion comes in.  I show full green bar, size looks corerct.  However, despite showing X number of soldiers available, the "Raise Levy" button is greyed out.  Opinion of me is 100.  My only two guesses are 1)opinions go above 100 behind the scenes and he likes my opponent better than me, or 2)he is allied, somehow, with my opponent.  Are either of these possible reasons why he won't tgive me his damned troops?

Wait.  Supply limits?  I have seen a stat on supply, but I never understood where it factored in.  Could this be contributing to the problem?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 22, 2013, 10:45:45 AM
Maker, is your crown authority Autonomous Vassals?

If it's all green they don't need to raise any levies for you. The red part is what they have to maintain for you.

Supply limits only impact a raised army. They will get attrition if their number is over the supply limit.

EDIT: Also if you recently levied and their soldiers were wiped out you need to give the vassal sometime to regen those specific soldiers for you.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 22, 2013, 11:07:20 AM
Maker, is your crown authority Autonomous Vassals?

If it's all green they don't need to raise any levies for you. The red part is what they have to maintain for you.

Supply limits only impact a raised army. They will get attrition if their number is over the supply limit.

EDIT: Also if you recently levied and their soldiers were wiped out you need to give the vassal sometime to regen those specific soldiers for you.


No.  Medium Crown Authority.  So there is a percentage they have to raise for me.  And it isn't an issues of an on-going war.  It is at the outset of a war.  When I say the bar is all green, I mean, when on the military screen, it gives a list of each holding and the number of soldiers available.  If I am reading this corerctlt, the red bar indicates the total numbe that could be available to me, and the green bar indicates how many are actually available.  So, when I click to raise all feudal levies, they all empty out except for one stubbord duke, who doesn't give me any.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 22, 2013, 11:09:48 AM
When I get home today, I'll post a screenshot b/c I know I'm not explaining myself clearly.  And forgive all the typos in my posts.  For some reason, my browser keeps resetting the positiion of the text field and I can't see what I am typing.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 22, 2013, 11:39:27 AM

I haven't figured out the TP features yet.  Obviously, I can't build them, correct?

Only Republics can build TPs. They'll reach you eventually but you're far enough away that it will be a hundred years or so after the start of the game.

Quote from: Maker
I mean, playing as Ireland, I'm assuming b/c I am feudal that they are not an option for me.  Another question I have about general gameplay: Sometimes, when I raise my armies, some dukes will not raise soldiers for me, even with 100 opinion of me.  Does anyone have a suggestion as to why this might be?

If you click on their demense counties you can check to see their current soldier count. There's a garrison meter, and an army meter. You'll notice some of it is in red the other green. The red part is what he must maintain for you and raise for you.

This is based on opinion and the levy size you set in your laws and your crown authority. If you're at 'Autonomous Vassals' he doesn't need to raise anything for you.

http://crusaderkings-two.wikia.com/wiki/Crown_Authority

As an FYI for this, it is possible to create your own Republic, fairly easily.

The requirements are thus:

1.  You must be a King or Emperor
2.  Build a city and grant it to a vassal/grant a city to a vassal (must be on a coastal county).
3.  Promote said vassal to a Duke and give them control over the county their city is in.
4.  Your vassal is now his own non-independent Republic.

It is possible to create a Republic as a Duke with multiple titles, but as soon as you promote the vassal, they are now of your same rank and no longer under your control.

This is a fairly easy way to jump your income level in the earlier stages of the game, provided you've managed to grab yourself a Kingdom and set your Feudal Tax rate for vassals above the minimum of "None."  The Republic under you is going to be making massive amounts of money and spending the lion's share on posts and what not, but you do manage to siphon off a decent amount through "just taxation." (read=tyranny)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on January 22, 2013, 09:59:53 PM


MWLL development has closed and so goes with it a truly talented team.

The game servers are still going to be up for the foreseeable future, though. (http://forum.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php/topic,18950.0.htmlA list of things that might have been, but now will never be.[/url)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 23, 2013, 12:36:58 AM
Harebrained Schemes put up the pre-order page for Shadowrun Returns.

http://harebrained-schemes.com/shadowrun/shadowrun-returns-pre-order/

$15 for the basic game + editor.

I'm a little shocked. I thought $15 was for kickstarter backers -- you know a special price but they're sticking to it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 23, 2013, 09:19:27 AM
FUCK brothers who think they deserve my throne and plunge the kingdom into civil war.  From now on, I assassinate anyone with a legitimate claim.

In other news, is the multiplayer version of CK2 full featured, or is it just watered down elements of the single player version?  If it is just one or only a few aspects, then I want to know why they can't make CK2 multiplayer full-featured?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 23, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Multiplayer is exactly the same as single player, only with people playing the other dynasties in lieu of NPCs.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 23, 2013, 02:44:11 PM
Multiplayer is exactly the same as single player, only with people playing the other dynasties in lieu of NPCs.

You're kidding me.  How cynical have I gotten?  How do they handle the time issue?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on January 23, 2013, 03:43:44 PM
I've wanted to play CK2 with another person so I can learn the game a bit better.  I just keep finding it daunting and loose interest after a bit of playing it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 23, 2013, 04:07:48 PM
I've wanted to play CK2 with another person so I can learn the game a bit better.  I just keep finding it daunting and loose interest after a bit of playing it.

Keep at it.  There is an initial learning curve that is steep, but, once you are over that hump, it's a blast, and I am still learning new aspects I wasn't aware of before. 
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 23, 2013, 04:09:14 PM
I've wanted to play CK2 with another person so I can learn the game a bit better.  I just keep finding it daunting and loose interest after a bit of playing it.

I'd be up for this if we can get a decent ping.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on January 23, 2013, 06:11:13 PM
while chatting with some people in EVE general help, one said "yeah, EVE is so hardcore, if you get killed you lose a ship, a ton of cash and a month of progress unless if you forget to update your clone." how adorable
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Maker on January 23, 2013, 10:50:52 PM
I've wanted to play CK2 with another person so I can learn the game a bit better.  I just keep finding it daunting and loose interest after a bit of playing it.

I'd be up for this if we can get a decent ping.

I'm in.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on January 24, 2013, 06:27:39 AM
Just started out with War Thunder. It's a WWII flight combat game from the guys who did Birds of Steel and IL-2 Sturmovik. The whole thing follows the same F2P model Wargaming uses for World of Tanks, except it doesn't suck miserably like World of Warplanes does. They're currently in the process of finishing up naval combat and it should be added to the game in the next couple months. They're also planning on allowing players to take control of ground forces (which are currently controlled by AI).

The whole game is really polished, especially considering it's only in beta, and it has a variety of gametypes so newbies like me can stick to Arcade Mode and hardcore flight sim players can jump into Full Realism mode which is basically unplayable without a flight stick. There are also co-op campaigns and a mission editor.

I took a couple random screenshots earlier that are all in 3rd person view but the cockpits of all fighters are accurately modeled for first-person view. Bomber cockpits don't seem to be modeled yet, or cockpit view is unavailable in bombers. Not sure which.

(http://i.imgur.com/ynbF9aL.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/iBxwRrY.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 26, 2013, 12:23:37 AM
Currently downloading the SimCity beta.  Hopefully it is not shit.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on January 26, 2013, 12:25:08 AM
I love Sims 3.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cind on January 26, 2013, 10:11:11 AM
I love Sims 3.

I just figured out how to get my vampire to drink from any sim they want. Well I don't know if it works on enemies. Also there's a chance you'll make the sim romantically interested in you, apparently.

And every time I try to explore the catacombs of the graveyard, I eventually come out mentally and physically scarred from zombie bear encounters. not sure how to make that stop.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 26, 2013, 11:35:48 AM
I love Sims 3.

I just figured out how to get my vampire to drink from any sim they want. Well I don't know if it works on enemies. Also there's a chance you'll make the sim romantically interested in you, apparently.

And every time I try to explore the catacombs of the graveyard, I eventually come out mentally and physically scarred from zombie bear encounters. not sure how to make that stop.

Greater Athletic skill and certain traits: Brave, Athletic, etc.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 26, 2013, 08:28:40 PM
Are there any essential or highly recommended mods for Empire TW?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on January 26, 2013, 08:30:19 PM
Are there any essential or highly recommended mods for Empire TW?

Darthmod for sure!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=569761

It's like playing a totally different game, where strategy actually matters and the AI isn't moronic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 26, 2013, 11:38:19 PM
So, I've started playing the Baldur's Gate series again, starting from the first game and going from there.

I forgot how much I absolutely love this series even so many years later.  It stands out as a true genre-defining and standard setting game.

That being said, I also forgot just how mind-numbingly frustrating it was to start out with a D&D character at level 1, and not really have the best of party compositions.

I remembered it being difficult, but I guess it's been quite a while since I dusted off gems like Baldur's Gate, Planescape and Icewind Dale.  Many modern games hand-walk you through the game until delivering your first challenge.  Not so with these pioneers.  Dying to a friggin' wolf that manages to one-hit your 5 hp mage or thief really brings home the fact that you are weak when you first start adventuring.

..which explains why so many would-be adventurers die.  Quickly.

Someone needs to take the old Infinity Engine and mod a Darksun game!  Or petition WoC to start up another.  I haven't seen anything in Athas for a long time (yes, I'm aware they developed new 4th edition stuff with the Darksun setting.  I'm talking electronic entertainment) and the old "Shattered Lands" and "Wake of the Ravager" games play oddly on modern machines.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on January 26, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
The day GOG releases Day of the Tentacle is the day they get ALL my money.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 27, 2013, 12:16:08 AM
Are there any essential or highly recommended mods for Empire TW?

Darthmod for sure!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=569761

It's like playing a totally different game, where strategy actually matters and the AI isn't moronic.

Cheers, I was getting a little fed up of watching enemy troops running up and down my lines ???

How the hell did it ever get past QA in this state?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 27, 2013, 01:07:10 PM
Turn based gangster sim has a demo out:

http://worthplaying.com/article/2013/1/24/news/87968/

Downloading now. The game comes out on Thursday.

EDIT: Preview article:

http://worthplaying.com/event/E3_2012/PostE3_2012/86395/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on January 28, 2013, 06:43:52 PM
Guild wars 2 is rolling out a bunch of content updates. Looks like I've gotten back into it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on January 28, 2013, 08:36:11 PM
Guild wars 2 is rolling out a bunch of content updates. Looks like I've gotten back into it.

I've been thinking about playing again.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Malken on January 28, 2013, 10:05:42 PM
Guild wars 2 is rolling out a bunch of content updates. Looks like I've gotten back into it.

I've been thinking about playing again.

It was a lot of fun :)

Is anyone from the guild still around?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Jingo on January 28, 2013, 11:36:12 PM
Not when I've been online.

I've also been hopping servers in hope of a latency free zone
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 30, 2013, 10:31:08 AM
Buddy of mine texts me this morning to ask me if I have heard about this free-to-play D&D MMO opening up its beta on Feb 8. (Neverwinter Online.)

Orly? That sounds awesome. Had no idea this was in the works. Go check it out. Looks decent as far as graphics are concerned.

Quickly realize it is World of Warcraft with different landscapes and character skins.

Then realize it might be free-to-play, but it is pay-to-win. (For the cheap cheap price of $200, you can get the "Founders Pack", with all kinds of goodies for your character and your account. Yeah fucking right.)

So tired of the point and click auto-attack no-skill grindfest shit MMO's on the market.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 30, 2013, 02:48:11 PM
If they're no skill why is it that only a small portion of guilds advance far beyond others?

http://www.wowprogress.com/

Heroic Terrace of Endless Spring
H: Protectors of the Endless: 832 (2.13%)
H: Tsulong: 657 (1.68%)
H: Lei Shi: 1514 (3.88%)
H: Sha of Fear: 301 (0.77%)

Only 301 guilds, representing 0.77% of all raiding guilds have the final boss in the final raid zone down on heroic.

Oh, but it's no skill. Yeah, right :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 30, 2013, 03:12:56 PM
My understanding of WoW is that such a feat is largely a product of discipline and organization.  There are perscribed formulas for dealing with most situations in the game.  Also, each individual player has a fairly rigid sequence of actions that produce the neccesary damage/healing/whatever output.  Overcoming a challenge is, then, simply a matter of not having too much deviation from the instructions.

D-man's notion of skill, and one I can't fault him for, probably incorporates more reflex and/or reactivity.  It's something that must be practiced.  You must develope an intuition and/or reflex to deal with unpredictable situations, which will occur frequently.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 30, 2013, 03:18:49 PM
Oh, and while I'm here, a CK2 update!

Firstly, I've had to pledge to not play CK2 during weeknights.  It's WAAAAAY too easy to suddenly lose 6 hours in that game.

Secondly, don't bother with Tanistry unless maybe your dynasty is really young/small or narrow.  The weight towards distant branches of your dynasty is pretty hefty and getting people to support your direct/preferred descendant seems way harder than with elective monarchy.  I'm probably going to lose an entire kingdom (Scotland) when I die and have to re-conquer it. 

Hopefully, though, within a generation or two I can form the Empire of Britannia, and then I should have a century or so to rule and/or expand before the game ends.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 30, 2013, 03:46:47 PM
My understanding of WoW is that such a feat is largely a product of discipline and organization.  There are perscribed formulas for dealing with most situations in the game.  Also, each individual player has a fairly rigid sequence of actions that produce the neccesary damage/healing/whatever output.  Overcoming a challenge is, then, simply a matter of not having too much deviation from the instructions.


We could argue all day of what "skill" means but that's not what I'm after. The idea that WoW is a just a grindfest and everyone can beat it is clearly, based on stats from sites like wowprogress, not true. There's a clear difference in skill between raiders who are at the cutting edge of content and those at the start of it.

If players had to "aim" their spells nothing would get done. There's too much going on in a raid that's far more complex than just moving a mouse around.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 30, 2013, 03:51:47 PM
If players had to "aim" their spells nothing would get done. There's too much going on in a raid that's far more complex than just moving a mouse around.


See, if it required that amount of skill, then I would probably play it. I like it when they make me actually aim and don't auto-roll my attacks for me.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Large Hero on January 30, 2013, 03:52:42 PM
Having played WoW and similar games, I would say the success of the top guilds is less due to "skill" and more a product of having a core of people with both a basic level of intelligence and the willingness to log endless hours into the game. More than anything else, WoW rewards sinking vast amounts of time into it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 30, 2013, 05:08:14 PM
Having played WoW and similar games, I would say the success of the top guilds is less due to "skill" and more a product of having a core of people with both a basic level of intelligence and the willingness to log endless hours into the game. More than anything else, WoW rewards sinking vast amounts of time into it.

Raid lockouts, and caps are just there for show then? Clearly, 0.77% of the guilds on WoW have people who spend a lot of time playing and everyone else is just not putting in enough time.

If you follow some of the top guild you'll notice a trend. Most of them don't log in everyday. A vast majority of them won't even run daily quests because they don't need those rewards.A great deal of those players are in the sciences or engineering. Heavy play only happens around new patches with additional content, or of course expansions which require leveling up. Outside of that it's not as busy as you think.

You can check armory profiles to see whether they run dallies, and see just how much time they're putting in by watching news items pop up there. They don't pop up as often as you think.

I'm on the top raiding guild on my realm. I'm at every raid since I tank and it's hard to swap me out. We raid between 8-12 hours on weekends only, Friday Saturday and Sunday. If I log in during a weekday I'm lucky to find one or two other players on.

If players had to "aim" their spells nothing would get done. There's too much going on in a raid that's far more complex than just moving a mouse around.


See, if it required that amount of skill, then I would probably play it. I like it when they make me actually aim and don't auto-roll my attacks for me.

Those games your playing, are also "auto-rolling" for you. They just don't show you the numbers. Might want to take a closer look.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 30, 2013, 05:35:40 PM

Those games your playing, are also "auto-rolling" for you. They just don't show you the numbers. Might want to take a closer look.


No, they aren't.

It is reflex/twitch based. There are no numbers to even look at. The mechanic you are trying to use to justify your point does not exist to even be referenced.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Large Hero on January 30, 2013, 05:43:14 PM
You may not log in every day, but you're the main tank at every raid for a top guild because you have built up the necessary elite gear over a long time.

There's no way you would be the main tank for a top guild without that gear, which was acquired by investing large amounts of time - not every day or every week, but over the last year at least, certainly.

As I understand it, staying at the "elite" level in WoW requires that you always have near-optimal gear. You can play with your friends if you have a crappy set, but that doesn't fly in top-level guilds. You're not logging in every day, but if you didn't play for a while and missed a cycle of gear, you would not be able to raid with your friends, despite what skill you may have.

It really isn't hard to memorize raid patterns. I've watched a few videos where raid bosses are explained. "Don't hit the guy when he's glowing, get out of the way of the fireballs, watch when the adds come, etc." I would bet that if you took the average adult WoW player and gave them optimal gear, they would do their job in a raid.

If a player doesn't do enough DPS or whatever, they aren't going on the raid, no matter how good they are at dodging fireballs. The ability to do that DPS only comes through investing the time needed to get the gear.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 30, 2013, 05:58:04 PM
You may not log in every day, but you're the main tank at every raid for a top guild because you have built up the necessary elite gear over a long time.

There's no way you would be the main tank for a top guild without that gear, which was acquired by investing large amounts of time - not every day or every week, but over the last year at least, certainly.

The last expansion came out in October. I was raiding week 2 in ilvl 450 boes with a few pieces from heroic dungeons. Those top guilds right now on wowprogress used a system where they'd form 5 or so raid groups and move the best geared to a single group as each took down a boss and gave people loot...

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As I understand it, staying at the "elite" level in WoW requires that you always have near-optimal gear.

Some bosses are clear gear-checks. I think it was week or or three after the expansion launched that the final heroic raid boss was taken down. I'm sure the people in that specific raid had every drop possible from the last two weeks but they didn't play 24/7 because raids are locked out each week. If you take down a boss this week you won't be able to engage the same boss until next week.

You can play until your eyes bleed and that won't make you progress faster.

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It really isn't hard to memorize raid patterns.

Absolutely not, that's why four months after the expansion only 0.77% of the raiding guilds cleared all raids. Because it's really easy :)

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If a player doesn't do enough DPS or whatever, they aren't going on the raid, no matter how good they are at dodging fireballs. The ability to do that DPS only comes through investing the time needed to get the gear.

Gear helps, no doubt, but it doesn't make that big of a difference. We had a new warlock I helped get some dungeon pieces together (because we really need a warlock!) and he out DPS'd our resident mage who is in full raid level gear on some fights.

It's about knowing how to play your class, optimizing your strategy, and staying focused.

Blizzard does a really good job of rewarding players who master their class over players who just coast along.

EDIT: You can dismiss WoW as being a grindfest where time earns you an "elite" spot but all the data shows otherwise. The top performers didn't invest a lot of time and cleared all the content ahead of everyone else. Months later only a tiny fraction of existing raiders cleared all the content. It's about skill.



Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 30, 2013, 09:34:24 PM
Or these players just happen to be inclined to (and capable of) reading and comprehending walkthroughs, and basic mathematical comparisons.  That'd probably put them a fair way beyond a lot of the more casual/younger/dumber players.  Add in a semi decent leader (and we all know how rare those are) who can actually get people well organised and that's probably enough to make up the difference.

I spent bloody years playing that silly Tribal Wars games before realising that there was no skill involved whatsoever.  It's just optimisation and organisation (ie making sure other are optimising and coordinating).
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2013, 10:12:26 PM
Those are skills, lc.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 31, 2013, 12:34:25 AM
CK1, CK2 and (I think) all the DLC are currently available (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7UK2I2) for $9.99 (the price of the latest DLC on it's own) and can apparently be redeemed on Steam..  If you don't own the game, now's probably the time to grab it.  Also the URL appeals to my inner seven year old.

Those are skills, lc.

Knowing the correct order to build things in, or ideal troop composition isn't really a skill, although I did phrase my last post poorly.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 31, 2013, 01:46:42 AM
I use a g13 pad and a MMO mouse with 13 buttons giving me a total of 35 buttons, and I still break a sweat when I have to kite a pack of mobs around that add 30% dmg to each other (which stacks).

There's a lot of skill involved knowing how to mitigate, build threat, grab shit when someone does a personal fail.

And I have to keep this up every weekend like a champ. Stop trying to dismiss it :)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on January 31, 2013, 01:59:44 AM
WoW PVE takes skill like memorizing the periodic table for your high-school chemistry class takes skill. At least the PVP has elements of unpredictability since it's another person and not a programmed datamined NPC with abilities that you know pretty much when and where they're going to go off.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 31, 2013, 07:42:04 AM
Quote from: http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-old-gods#about_game-tab
Play as a Pagan chieftain and ravage your weak neighbors. If you remain at peace for too long, your people will grow restless...
New special start date in 867 AD: The Viking Rurik has founded the kingdom of Rus and the Great Heathen Army under the sons of Ragnar Lodbrok rampages through England.
Play as a Zoroastrian lord and restore your ancient religion to prominence.
Adventurers: Landless characters can gather armies and go off to carve out new realms on their own.
Prepared Invasions: Declare your intention to invade and watch your armies grow with adventurers and restless warriors, but don't wait too long to start your war or it might all fall apart...
Rebels with a Cause: Rebels are no longer a faceless menace – they are now led by characters with agendas.
Loot and pillage provinces. Burn down their cities and take their gold!
Sacrifice to Odin at the great Blot!
Christians and Muslims can dispatch missions to convert the depraved heathens.
New beautiful Pagan interface skin.
New events and decisions: berserkers, sejdr, curses, omens, divinations, runestones and much more.

Hel yes, this is what I've been waiting for.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: JustAnotherGuy on January 31, 2013, 08:08:14 AM
Path of Exile... is a very enjoyable game for free.  I recommend checking it out.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 31, 2013, 08:35:47 AM
Quote from: http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-old-gods#about_game-tab
Play as a Pagan chieftain and ravage your weak neighbors. If you remain at peace for too long, your people will grow restless...
New special start date in 867 AD: The Viking Rurik has founded the kingdom of Rus and the Great Heathen Army under the sons of Ragnar Lodbrok rampages through England.
Play as a Zoroastrian lord and restore your ancient religion to prominence.
Adventurers: Landless characters can gather armies and go off to carve out new realms on their own.
Prepared Invasions: Declare your intention to invade and watch your armies grow with adventurers and restless warriors, but don't wait too long to start your war or it might all fall apart...
Rebels with a Cause: Rebels are no longer a faceless menace – they are now led by characters with agendas.
Loot and pillage provinces. Burn down their cities and take their gold!
Sacrifice to Odin at the great Blot!
Christians and Muslims can dispatch missions to convert the depraved heathens.
New beautiful Pagan interface skin.
New events and decisions: berserkers, sejdr, curses, omens, divinations, runestones and much more.

Hel yes, this is what I've been waiting for.

Oh HELL YES.

EDIT: And an interesting date. Muslims started their expansion about a hundred years before 867. I suspect there will be a lot of pagan lords littering the east.

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on January 31, 2013, 09:37:54 AM
The second beta for Eador: Masters of the Broken World starts in about a week and they're opening it up to newcomers.  Instructions are here (http://snowbirdgames.com/?p=700&lang=en) for any who may be interested.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on January 31, 2013, 10:43:26 AM
Quote from: http://www.paradoxplaza.com/games/crusader-kings-ii-the-old-gods#about_game-tab
Play as a Pagan chieftain and ravage your weak neighbors. If you remain at peace for too long, your people will grow restless...
New special start date in 867 AD: The Viking Rurik has founded the kingdom of Rus and the Great Heathen Army under the sons of Ragnar Lodbrok rampages through England.
Play as a Zoroastrian lord and restore your ancient religion to prominence.
Adventurers: Landless characters can gather armies and go off to carve out new realms on their own.
Prepared Invasions: Declare your intention to invade and watch your armies grow with adventurers and restless warriors, but don't wait too long to start your war or it might all fall apart...
Rebels with a Cause: Rebels are no longer a faceless menace – they are now led by characters with agendas.
Loot and pillage provinces. Burn down their cities and take their gold!
Sacrifice to Odin at the great Blot!
Christians and Muslims can dispatch missions to convert the depraved heathens.
New beautiful Pagan interface skin.
New events and decisions: berserkers, sejdr, curses, omens, divinations, runestones and much more.

Hel yes, this is what I've been waiting for.

Oh, sweet heavens, yes!  Our Alternate-history incest-sim is just getting better and better!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Marauder Moe on January 31, 2013, 11:04:55 AM
I skipped the Republic DLC because it didn't seem all that interesting, nor does it seem to have been received well in general.

This one, however, looks AWESOME.  I can't wait.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on January 31, 2013, 01:10:37 PM
You don't need the Republic DLC unless you want to play a Republic.

I think the Sword of Islam is the same. It just unlocks Muslim play. I always wondered what would happen if you converted to Islam but didn't have the Sword of Islam DLC. I figure the game just ends.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Large Hero on January 31, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
862 is also before the HRE...

That settles it. I, as an adventurer with an army of berserkers, will found the Empire of Odin which will rule for a thousand years.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cutthroat on January 31, 2013, 07:34:19 PM
The Republic DLC is fairly interesting to me, but I can't quite figure out embargo wars. It certainly seems that allies and the HRE in particular are more than willing to start them against me, though.

My Manfredo the Great managed to control the Most Serene Republic of Genoa through rebellions minor disagreements for almost 50 years before being horribly destroyed by one such embargo war.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 01, 2013, 08:01:15 AM
(http://wiki.totalwar.com/images/9/9b/PaintedOnes.jpg)

It's very pretty, but I do have to wonder how they got their hands on hair gel.

Path of Exile... is a very enjoyable game for free.  I recommend checking it out.

It really is.  Hopefully they can manage to turn a profit while keeping all the micro transactions cosmetic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: TheBadSeed on February 01, 2013, 09:03:24 AM
CK1, CK2 and (I think) all the DLC are currently available (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7UK2I2) for $9.99 (the price of the latest DLC on it's own) and can apparently be redeemed on Steam..  If you don't own the game, now's probably the time to grab it.  Also the URL appeals to my inner seven year old.

Those are skills, lc.

Knowing the correct order to build things in, or ideal troop composition isn't really a skill, although I did phrase my last post poorly.

Nice deal! Just hooked it, and waiting for the downloads..
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 01, 2013, 06:20:00 PM
Anyone who accepted a heresy as a christian ruler have any feedback on what happens? My empire is huge and I am tired of having to find CBs in order to expand. If I can go holy war on everyone I could conquer everyone.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on February 01, 2013, 06:24:22 PM
Well theoretically England (historically) accepted a heresy, in that King Henry Jim formed his own sect of Christianity. Wouldn't that be the same thing?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 04, 2013, 02:00:55 AM
Declared allegiance to King Renly and led a siege against Duskendale to capture it from the Lannisters. There was only one way onto the city walls so we lost a good hundred men or so in the siege, only to have the Lannisters immediately march on the city for a counter-siege. Can you guess how long we held out outnumbered this badly? (http://i.imgur.com/CFVDAOO.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/CFVDAOO.jpg)

Edit: Got fed up with all the Lannister bullshit and purchased a bunch of Unsullied to lead my army. They're slaughtering everything.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on February 04, 2013, 05:10:51 PM
Some of the 2013 game premiere's look incredible. Most games will be out for the 360, which rocks, but one of the games that I want most of all (The Last of Us) is a PS3 exclusive, which blows hard. Definitely has me contemplating purchasing a PS3.

Announced
Feb. 5th - Dead Space 3 (PS3 / XBOX360)
Feb. 12th - Aliens: Colonial Marines (PS3 / XBOX360)
Mar. 5th - Tomb Raider (PS3 / XBOX360) *
Mar. 26th - BioShock Infinite (PS3 / XBOX360)
Apr. 23rd - Dead Island: Riptide (PS3 / XBOX360)
Apr. 23rd - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3 / XBOX360) *
May 7th - The Last of Us (PS3) *

Unannounced
Dark Souls II (PS3 / XBOX360) *
The Phantom Pain (PS3 / XBOX360)

* = signifies games of higher priority
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 04, 2013, 06:42:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWiHC-i5b4

Anyone played games by Illwinter? This one is supposed to be strategy rogue-like.

Hilarious article on the Necromancer class:

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/02/13/conquest-of-elysium-3-give-the-necromancers-a-hand/
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 04, 2013, 07:54:26 PM
Apr. 23rd - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3 / XBOX360) ****************************************************************************************

* = signifies games of higher priority

I had no idea this was being made :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWiHC-i5b4

Anyone played games by Illwinter? This one is supposed to be strategy rogue-like.

Hilarious article on the Necromancer class:

http://www.quartertothree.com/fp/2012/02/13/conquest-of-elysium-3-give-the-necromancers-a-hand/

Roguelike: it's a way for developers not to balance a game and just leave it up to chance ;)

I can heartily recommend Dominions 3 as an incredibly deep 4x/strategy game with the kind of brilliant balancing that makes all players agree that some factions are ridiculously OP (while disagreeing over precisely which factions these are), but I've never tried any of their other games.  Let me know whether it's any good or not if you do grab it.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 04, 2013, 09:09:37 PM
Apr. 23rd - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3 / XBOX360) ****************************************************************************************

* = signifies games of higher priority

I had no idea this was being made :o


Supposedly just additional content, and a hardmode.

Quote
Roguelike: it's a way for developers not to balance a game and just leave it up to chance ;)

Yeah, but the characters you can pick from intrigued me enough that I'm trying it out.

EDIT: I can't really recommend Conquest of Elysium 3 but for $10 its a time waster.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 04, 2013, 11:02:38 PM
http://kotaku.com/5981680/the-witcher-3-announced-first-artwork-revealed

This may well be the first open world fantasy game that isn't completely lifeless.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on February 04, 2013, 11:28:30 PM
GERALT OF BEARDIA.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 05, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
Cyberpunk 2077, another game they announced, is also "open world."

Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 05, 2013, 10:43:58 AM
Apr. 23rd - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3 / XBOX360) ****************************************************************************************

* = signifies games of higher priority

I had no idea this was being made :o


Supposedly just additional content, and a hardmode.

Honestly, more of the same is enough for me in this case.

I'm considering trying to play it through without pawns.  Could make things a lot more challenging and focused.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 05, 2013, 01:54:15 PM
I decided to pre-order the Digital Collector tier from Wasteland 2 through paypal just because Brian Fargo made me LOL with a comment in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iXkJE8xoHQ

Right at the 2:15 mark where he talks about character creation: "We don't know if you're creating a group of Russian Women or what?"

"We even let you choose the pack of cigarettes you like to smoke."
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Hot_Dancer on February 05, 2013, 02:23:14 PM
Damn you Mechwarrior Online - Finish patching.

I just had a 5 Kill, 700 damage match in my speedster Yen Lo Wang.

The other team loaded up on SRM-Boat slow Stalkers.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on February 06, 2013, 12:40:27 AM
Damn you Mechwarrior Online - Finish patching.

I just had a 5 Kill, 700 damage match in my speedster Yen Lo Wang.

The other team loaded up on SRM-Boat slow Stalkers.

I want a Wang with a big AC20.

You make me want this.

I hate you.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 06, 2013, 01:35:12 AM
Apr. 23rd - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3 / XBOX360) ****************************************************************************************

* = signifies games of higher priority

I had no idea this was being made :o


Supposedly just additional content, and a hardmode.

Honestly, more of the same is enough for me in this case.

I'm considering trying to play it through without pawns.  Could make things a lot more challenging and focused.

Playing without pawns is hardmode.

When I summon a pawn and they disappoint me, I generally pick them up and throw them into the ocean as punishment for their failures.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on February 06, 2013, 03:50:46 PM
Apr. 23rd - Dragon's Dogma: Dark Arisen (PS3 / XBOX360) ****************************************************************************************

* = signifies games of higher priority

I had no idea this was being made :o


Supposedly just additional content, and a hardmode.

Honestly, more of the same is enough for me in this case.

I'm considering trying to play it through without pawns.  Could make things a lot more challenging and focused.

Playing without pawns is hardmode.

When I summon a pawn and they disappoint me, I generally pick them up and throw them into the ocean as punishment for their failures.
I'm currently on my 2nd playthrough on NG+, and after I found out augments stack - my Assassin is a pretty nasty customer. Maxed out vocations for Strider, Fighter, Warrior, Ranger and Assassin. Ranger wasn't entirely necessary, but I did like a few augments that they get.

But, basically, the strength Augments from Warrior + Fighter, coupled with the extra weight capacity (Fighter) + lower weight class (Strider), and the Assassin's +70% increase to strength at night makes me pretty beast. Level 93, at the moment. Assassin stat growth gives you the most strength per level from level 10 and onward. I'm considering doing a 3rd play through and having the Autonomy augment (+70% strength when alone) and doing a solo run.

But, yeah. Arisen characters have the potential to be pretty OP'd if you stack your Augments correctly.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 06, 2013, 08:00:45 PM
I wish they would do Dragon's Dogma except I can play with my friends. Letting me have real people to throw at gryphons or into the ocean would turn a great game into a fantastic game.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 06, 2013, 09:01:03 PM
I wish they would do Dragon's Dogma except I can play with my friends. Letting me have real people to throw at gryphons or into the ocean would turn a great game into a fantastic game.

That would be like Demon Souls/Dark Souls having a difficulty mode you can set. What you're thinking of is a fantasy hack'n'slash version of Borderlands.

Dragon's Dogma is a mini single player MMO with AI to fill in where players would. I'm happy they stuck to that vision. What I became unhappy about is horrible game balance in NG+ and the "raid" endgame that was a ridiculous when the one boss you fought kept flying away and coming back with more wounds from "other" players.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 06, 2013, 09:20:15 PM
I'm pretty sure it would be the same game except pawns would be intelligent people and not completely retarded. ;)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 06, 2013, 09:55:10 PM
I'm thinking of firing up Dragon Age: Origins again then I realized how depressed I became the last time I finished it. After I'm done with the Witch Hunt DLC I'll just realize I played the last piece of content from Bioware that I will ever care about.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 07, 2013, 04:25:39 AM
http://www.edge-online.com/news/the-next-xbox-always-online-no-second-hand-games-50gb-blu-ray-discs-and-new-kinect/

The backlash is going to be biblical in proportions.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 07, 2013, 04:27:35 AM
I'd take that with a grain of salt, considering Microsoft's biggest console market is North America, where the network infrastructure sucks butts.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 07, 2013, 04:31:18 AM
That did occur to me.  It wouldn't exactly be the first time MS have done something incredibly stupid in recent years.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 07, 2013, 09:44:33 AM
According to the article these are the specs:

"AMD eight-core x64 1.6GHz CPU, a D3D11.x 800MHz graphics solution and 8GB of DDR3 RAM"

Looks odd. So eight cores clocked at a speed lower than what new PCs are shipping at? Seems a bit daft. With the PS3 everyone complained of how they had to program across multiple threads to split the processing across the individual SPEs.

Like this Valve interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RNXIhccXLc

The PS3 has higher clock speeds:

"The PS3 uses the Cell microprocessor, which is made up of one 3.2 GHz PowerPC-based "Power Processing Element" (PPE) and six accessible Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_hardware#Central_processing_unit
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Nyr on February 07, 2013, 09:49:08 AM
I'm not going to assume anything about the new consoles until there's actual press releases from the actual companies making them.  I don't think there's anything definitive out there yet though.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 07, 2013, 10:11:27 AM
This ships to backers from KS in March, and to stores in June:

http://www.ouya.tv/

I'm actually buying a new TV next month just for my new Ouya.

The Ouya may end up redefining consoles completely if enough people believe in it, or it may end up becoming a novelty with ports from Android mobile games showing up as an afterthought. In either case it's a cheap media box.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 07, 2013, 10:20:48 AM
I can't see it becoming a hit.  IIRC the specs aren't even par with current gen consoles.

If there's anything that'll really shake up the console market, my money is on whatever Valve eventually come out with.

Semi-related: I showed a mate of mine that he could play games at higher resolutions, frame rates and graphical settings on a PC than his PS3, while still using the controller he's accustomed to as well as his TV.  Apparently "It's just not the same".
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on February 07, 2013, 10:25:41 AM
Making used games non-playable would be the absolute last dumbass thing I'd tolerate from Microsoft before I quit their shit entirely.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 07, 2013, 12:19:54 PM
I can't see it becoming a hit.  IIRC the specs aren't even par with current gen consoles.

What was the last game you enjoyed that had high system requirements?

I'm sure there are some but I doubt the special lighting effects, or extremely detailed shadows made the game more fun :)

EDIT:

http://www.pcgamer.com/2013/02/05/crusader-kings-ii-the-old-gods-everything-we-know-so-far/

CK2 pagan interview.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on February 07, 2013, 02:14:30 PM
I know this is a minority opinion, but I hated Dragon Age Origins. It felt like there were different  teams designing your party and the world which later just slapped everything together with some changed dialogue. Your party just gets a pass, no matter how odd it is that you are a rogue mage, just because ....Grey Warden?

I don't know why but I felt like the great world they designed was extremely cheapened by the fact that the party itself flaunted all the social norms of the world with no more consequence than a different line of dialogue. In fact, I felt it ridiculous that Templars weren't trying to do something more than make snarky comments about my character the mage or Morrigan.  ???

I struggled to finish the game because all of my friends raved about how good it was, but I never felt the magic.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on February 07, 2013, 02:37:31 PM
I thought it was okay. 6-7 outta 10.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on February 07, 2013, 02:56:05 PM
I thought it was okay. 6-7 outta 10.

Maybe I was a bit harsh on it, but I really couldn't get past it for some reason. Otherwise it wasn't so bad, I suppose.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 07, 2013, 02:57:06 PM
I know this is a minority opinion, but I hated Dragon Age Origins. It felt like there were different  teams designing your party and the world which later just slapped everything together with some changed dialogue. Your party just gets a pass, no matter how odd it is that you are a rogue mage, just because ....Grey Warden?

Are you thinking of DA2? Yeah that was handled very badly in that game.

In DA:O you didn't get a free pass.

"Note: If Morrigan is in the party, she will join in the conversation. If Wynne discovers she is an Apostate and sees you siding with her, she will attack you. If you decide to help Wynne, Morrigan will disapprove unless you have high coercion skill..."

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Broken_Circle

And yes, being a Grey Warden during a blight makes you untouchable to the Templars.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: racurtne on February 07, 2013, 03:07:03 PM
I know this is a minority opinion, but I hated Dragon Age Origins. It felt like there were different  teams designing your party and the world which later just slapped everything together with some changed dialogue. Your party just gets a pass, no matter how odd it is that you are a rogue mage, just because ....Grey Warden?

Are you thinking of DA2? Yeah that was handled very badly in that game.

In DA:O you didn't get a free pass.

"Note: If Morrigan is in the party, she will join in the conversation. If Wynne discovers she is an Apostate and sees you siding with her, she will attack you. If you decide to help Wynne, Morrigan will disapprove unless you have high coercion skill..."

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Broken_Circle

And yes, being a Grey Warden during a blight makes you untouchable to the Templars.


I'm talking about Origin. I didn't bother with DA2. Also, yeah, the Grey Warden immunity thing just felt tacked on. One encounter with Wynne still doesn't make me feel like the world and party really jived. It felt disjointed and then patched together with the Grey Warden catch-all. What you just mentioned is exactly what bothered me. Sorry I didn't like your favorite game ???
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Delusion on February 07, 2013, 03:55:01 PM
I'm thinking of firing up Dragon Age: Origins again then I realized how depressed I became the last time I finished it. After I'm done with the Witch Hunt DLC I'll just realize I played the last piece of content from Bioware that I will ever care about.

You've got eighty or so hours of awesome until you get there.

I share your sadness. Dragon Age 2 pales in comparison to Origins. I'm actually playing through DA2 for a second time at the moment. It's enjoyable enough, but it doesn't bode well for DA3.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on February 08, 2013, 12:50:03 AM
I know this is a minority opinion, but I hated Dragon Age Origins.

(http://i.neoseeker.com/n/7/morrigandisapproves.jpg)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: ghostymudy on February 08, 2013, 04:45:56 AM
I know this is a minority opinion, but I hated Dragon Age Origins.
morrigandisapproves.jpg

He's right.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 08, 2013, 10:00:40 AM
I know this is a minority opinion, but I hated Dragon Age Origins.

Same here.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on February 08, 2013, 01:30:06 PM
Morrigan can disapprove as mush as she likes, DA: Oriings is unbelievably shitty game. Except for the dwarven prologue stories, those were actually pretty good, I can't understand why.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Pale Horse on February 08, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
Since were all tossing out our arbitrary opinions as fact, I shall proclaim everyone who did not like DA:O as of inferior sensibilities a.d taste where it comes to games; not on par with elitist taste!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Cutthroat on February 08, 2013, 05:11:10 PM
Enchantment?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Harmless on February 08, 2013, 05:16:40 PM
DA:O was alright until the generic "YOU'RE A TRUE HERO! WHAT A TRUE HERO YOU ARE" plotline started kicking into full gear.

And don't get me started about secret prince Conan o'Brien hair.

Except for the dwarven prologue stories, those were actually pretty good, I can't understand why.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 08, 2013, 06:02:56 PM
DA:O was alright until the generic "YOU'RE A TRUE HERO! WHAT A TRUE HERO YOU ARE" plotline started kicking into full gear.

OMG that's what I loved about it. You could be a kind and nice hero or a cruel and vindictive hero because Grey Wardens do whatever it takes!
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on February 08, 2013, 06:06:30 PM
I liked DA:O. I also liked the Mass Effect series. I liked KOTOR. Shit, I liked Red Dead Revolver, the new Prince of Persia series, and Sly Cooper, too.

(http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/DealWithIt/tumblrlg5epuksjs1qg4s5u.gif)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: janeshephard on February 09, 2013, 07:12:02 PM
First look at Wasteland 2

http://vimeo.com/59292662
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: spicemustflow on February 10, 2013, 10:53:13 AM
Heard a lot of good things about Sleeping Dogs and now I can't get it to work. Annoyed.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 10, 2013, 11:44:37 PM
Playing the Cry of Fear mod for Half Life 1. Never sleeping again.

(http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/1117160762497919607/D1898154A90AE93C0A30CED75AB2C59C42BA1F5B/)
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: lordcooper on February 11, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
Is it Amnesia scary or Dead Space 'scary'?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: MeTekillot on February 11, 2013, 03:33:01 PM
It's jump-scare scary.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 11, 2013, 06:44:14 PM
It's mostly jump scares but there are some Amnesia scary bits thrown in that work pretty well.

Mostly I Just think the monster design is fucked up.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: bcw81 on February 11, 2013, 06:46:24 PM
Is it Amnesia scary or Dead Space 'scary'?
It's "Left for Dead" scary.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: i can haz mantis on February 11, 2013, 06:58:41 PM
So, Slender scary?
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: HavokBlue on February 11, 2013, 07:02:27 PM
Left for Dead is a bad comparison. The multiplayer campaign has a Left 4 Dead vibe in that you are navigating levels with some friends and some guns and things try to kill you. That's where the similarity ends.

Single player feels a lot like the old Silent Hill games.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Gunnerblaster on February 11, 2013, 09:27:37 PM
I wish I could man up and play games like Dead Space without pussying out after 30 minutes because I'm sure that, somewhere in the violence, gore, and screaming, there is an awesome story.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: Zoan on February 11, 2013, 09:40:52 PM
Dead Space is scary. The ambience is easily the best of any game I've experienced for horror.
Title: Re: Game Discussion Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 11, 2013, 09:45:46 PM
Dead Space is scary. The ambience is easily the best of any game I've experienced for horror.

Until number 2 and 3, apparently.
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Post by: Jingo on February 11, 2013, 09:49:04 PM
I don't remember Dead Space ever being scary.
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Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 11, 2013, 09:56:33 PM
I don't remember Dead Space ever being scary.

Scary as in "frightening".  As in jumps out and scares you like a horror movie. Very, very few games are actually scary. Not even Amnesia is actually "scary".
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Post by: Jingo on February 11, 2013, 10:31:30 PM
Horror as a genre isn't scary either.  ::)
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Post by: janeshephard on February 11, 2013, 11:49:03 PM
Dead Space is scary. The ambience is easily the best of any game I've experienced for horror.

First one was very scary. Second one was scary.

Third one haven't tried because it looks like they jumped the shark. I miss nerdy Isaac.
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Post by: HavokBlue on February 12, 2013, 10:20:21 AM
An ARG for Bungie's Destiny game just started, even though there's no official announcement yet.

What I find really interesting... Marty O'Donnel showed up on /v/ with an image that is 100% related to the Marathon series.
http://i.imgur.com/5HlHh3o.jpg

Part of Bungie's contract with activision allows them to dedicate part of their studio to working on a Marathon game instead of Destiny, but now I'm really curious if Destiny will have some connection to Marathon the same way Pathways Into Darkness did.


Anyone interested in following the ARG, I think destiny.bungie.org will be the best hub of information.
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Post by: BadSkeelz on February 12, 2013, 03:30:12 PM
I still think the scariest thing in gaming is the Ravenloft level of Halflife 2. Especially after you unload all sixty of your shotgun shells into the first screaming zombie.
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Post by: Zoan on February 12, 2013, 03:52:06 PM
I only played Dead Space 1. One of the most gripping things to me was the way Issac would cry out when confronted with xenos, or when he goes AGH! as he stomps on things. It sounds so desperate and panicky, which is how I want my isolated protagonist to feel in a horror game.
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Post by: Marauder Moe on February 12, 2013, 04:11:06 PM
I heard that Dead Space is only a horror game if you crank up the difficulty.  On normal it's just another space shooter.
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Post by: Zoan on February 12, 2013, 04:26:36 PM
I heard that immersion is what you make of it. :P
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Post by: janeshephard on February 12, 2013, 04:29:15 PM
I heard that Dead Space is only a horror game if you crank up the difficulty.  On normal it's just another space shooter.

I have all the achieves for the first one. I even completed it on hardest difficulty with the starter gun (which is all you need).
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Post by: lordcooper on February 12, 2013, 05:46:42 PM
I finished a three hour duel in Dark Souls almost 30 minutes ago and my hands are still shaking.  I invaded as a forest hunter, only to find myself up against a player in identical gear (after comparing notes post match, it turned out we only had very minor stat differences too).  Massive amounts of phantoms were fought on both sides, all of whom fell long before me and my original opponent.  There were quite a few occasions where one of us would almost defeat the other with a well timed parry or backstab, but we eventually had to declare it a draw.  Best gaming session evar!
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Post by: janeshephard on February 14, 2013, 08:30:25 PM
How did you inspect your opponents gear? Does the PC version let you do that?

On PS3 you can only tell who it is by going to your XMB and looking at people you recently played with. Then you have to guess.
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Post by: lordcooper on February 14, 2013, 08:59:21 PM
By looking at it?
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Post by: Dalmeth on February 14, 2013, 09:05:46 PM
And anyone competent has their gear maxed out or close enough.
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Post by: janeshephard on February 14, 2013, 09:28:01 PM
(http://imgur.com/Xy7ELhR.png)

Heh.