Now I know everyone has a story of some epic character of theirs that has died in such a way to just erk you. I mean no offence to anyone who's killed me in the past and reserve no hatred to anyone. Just curious to hear peoples stories.
Mine,
During the Copper War had a indi hunter named Kharne, probably my favourite pc ever. Lived long enough to aquire tribal, north and south accents. While showing off to some locals in the Gaj a templar came up and offered me a job. Asked me to infiltrate the northern army and learn whatever I could, then report back to him with my findings. Upon joining up with the Tuluki's I was hired on as a scout, it was my duty to follow enemy troop positions, dangerous local wildlife (meks), and generally scout the landscape. I talked with the local soldiers, learned whatever I could of their movements, fed them false enemy troop sightings once or twice. About a rl week of this goes on before Im contacted by the templar who hired me, asking for results so I left to go find the Nakki camp. Upon arriving at the camp theres no sign of the templar who hired me, a halfgiant telling me to drop my weapons and sit on the ground, and a new templar that Ive never seen before watching me. I tried explaining myself but just get shouted at and promptly killed.
Had to take a break from the game after that.
Ouch.
Mine was probably getting Delerak'd a room away from Tuluk's Gates, for a somewhat long-lived bard I had at the time.
too early. i really liked that character and the death was retarded.
When playing a burglar, never emergency-quit in the nearest apartment.
Quote from: HavokBlue on July 29, 2011, 09:21:42 PM
When playing a burglar, never emergency-quit in the nearest apartment.
oooh. tell us in a year mkay?
Sharak.
*edited*
Of course, if I'd have gotten a half a chance.. I'd have probably managed to get free again and who knows -how- things may've turned out...
*edit* self.
apparently some things are better left long dead. *shrug*
Too many annoying and depressing deaths to name. Here's a few...
Put to sleep and killed by some unknown magicker, for no reason that I know of. I think it was an enemy of my tribe, though.
Another time with a fairly long-lived character, a Mek just walks in and one-hit insta-kills me out of the blue while travelling. Seemed like there was almost no pause at all.
Countless other times where I've been insta-killed by no-lag NPC's and a few times by groups of NPC creatures that should have really been fighting each other instead of waiting for me to come along. It use to happen in the grasslands a lot, but got fixed years ago I believe, so I thought this was a thing of the past, but this just happened recently... a group of stuff like spiders, scrab, silt-flyers all came in from some gathering and killed me very quickly. I'm assuming there wasn't any reason for this. *shrug*
I've posted this one before - playfully threw a riding crop at someone in clan barracks and got ganked by my own clan NPC's.
Many others I can't remember...
Having a good-intentioned, non-malice bar fight in Luirs.
Guards are "no mercy, no arrest, no excuse" there.
A good, future thing to keep in mind when entering that place - 'nosave combat on'. That way, when someone accidentally punches you ("for real") in a bar fight, you don't attack back, hence incriminating yourself for all of the guards to come raining death down upon you.
It was a pretty pathetic and disappointing way to wrap up 2 years of game play effort.
Afterwards, I've never had an interest in ARM the same way I used to.
P.S. - It was the no-lag NPC's that ended up killing me, after I had managed to flee several areas away from the zone of incrimination. Yeah. Just consider yourself dead the instant the code fucks you over, in Luirs.
Quote from: CravenMadness on July 29, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Kind of anti-climactic for a (spoiler) who'd escaped two city-states, had begun (spoiler) to (spoiler).. though I heard (spoiler) because of that death.
I didn't know there were any actual PC (spoilers) or that they were capable of (spoiler) or (spoiler). Nor did I know that (spoiler) ever changed or what the capability might have been. So thanks for that.
I have plenty of depressing deaths. The one I'll go with is a dwarf, with whom I dutifully collected enough coins for a full set of armor, a mount, and the required three small to join the Byn. I then dragged that kank all the way to Tuluk, basically walking it most of the way because my ride skill wasn't going to get me there before the PC Sarge logged off for the night.
Made it just in time, joined the Byn, and the troopers and runners and such went off to celebrate something or other in a tavern. This being the Byn, I decided to start a bar brawl -- unaware that this apparently rough-n-tumble bar wasn't brawl safe. But, because this was in the days before nosave arrest was implemented, my drunken dwarf ended up tanking Tuluki soliders for one or two solid minutes, while trying to flee but getting fucked by the drunk code.
The saddest bit was the rest of the unit watching helplessly while my uber-buff dwarf in his nice armor was tickled to death by the soldiers, a couple of them offering condolences over OOC.
Really? That long ago, and no one knew that (spoiler) happened? Or that (spoiler) or (spoiler)? Well damn guess I wasn't as important or meaningful as I thought so.. Must not've been that big a (spoiler).
Quote from: CravenMadness on July 29, 2011, 11:36:52 PM
Really? That long ago, and no one knew that (spoiler) happened? Or that (spoiler) or (spoiler)? Well damn guess I wasn't as important or meaningful as I thought so.. Must not've been that big a (spoiler).
I was hanging around for it. What I didn't know was that PCs were Dragonthrall (I thought they were all staff-run NPCs or poseurs pretending to be Dragonthrall) or that other thing was plausible and actually happened. Mainly, what you wrote concerning the gemmed was a massive spoiler for me.
Meh. Considering the things that were happening in game at the time, I doubt it was that far-fetched. Or that it would likely ever happen again. The -possibility- is always there. This is role-play. Especially when you happen to be in a position to gain attention. As I was. So I ran with it. Perhaps my own ignorance of what 'can' or 'can't' happen, effected the outcome in my naivety. Pardon, and I have edited things.
I'm looking into the future of this thread, and all I see is Nyr.
>disarm mantis best.buddy
>aw man
Probably deaths to wandering uber-mobs...bahamets, mekillots, and black beetles, ever since the defense nerf and reeling went in.
It's far too easy to get pwned by some completely irrelevant NPC, nowadays. It's pretty fucking frustrating.
Lost a great character to a carru.
The fight was totally one sided: my character hadn't been hit and the carru was pretty close to death. Then the carru hit my character with a successful charge. Followed almost immediately by a successful bash. Then a reeling blow to the head. Nothing I could do but sit there and watch my character die through 15-30 seconds worth of stun.
Quote from: Synthesis on July 30, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Probably deaths to wandering uber-mobs...bahamets, mekillots, and black beetles, ever since the defense nerf and reeling went in.
It's far too easy to get pwned by some completely irrelevant NPC, nowadays. It's pretty fucking frustrating.
Play a warrior. 8)
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on July 30, 2011, 01:41:10 PM
Quote from: Synthesis on July 30, 2011, 12:37:00 PM
Probably deaths to wandering uber-mobs...bahamets, mekillots, and black beetles, ever since the defense nerf and reeling went in.
It's far too easy to get pwned by some completely irrelevant NPC, nowadays. It's pretty fucking frustrating.
Play a warrior. 8)
Meh, even warriors get randomly pwned in the sub-10-day range.
Before I had my long-term maxed-out warrior, I had a clone of him with exactly the same stats who got reel-locked by a carru at around 5 days.
You'd be shocked how many people die to bash or hunting mobs. The game isn't really forgiving if they show up at the wrong time. It's an even bigger surprise how many killings are attributed to PCs that was really just an NPC being generated with a lucky stat roll.
Never underestimate the carru
We had a "Worst Death-Ever" thread, at one time.
It got locked.
Just saying.
My most disappointing death ever was when I was PKed by a group of PCs that seemed to be really decent roleplayers, but everything about trying to actually RP the scene went wrong. It was a scene that we'd been leading up to for several weeks, something I'd known was gonna happen but was curious as to how they were actually going to drop it on my PC.
My character was paralysed, so I couldn't emote. Then night fell, so I couldn't see who was doing what or whether they were targeting me or somebody else.
Then it was like... welp, okay, you're dead. They tried. When I read over the log I still can't make heads or tails of it. It could have been a TRULY EPIC scene, given the circumstances, but instead it was several minutes of somebody doing something with their something to your something. Your HP goes down. Somebody somethings.
Nothing against the folks who killed me since I know they tried their best... but it was kind of a let-down because I feel like I missed out on some great stuff because of that darkness.
Being too full to eat the tablet that would cure the poison that was slowly killing my (to this date) longest lived and most awesome character ever.
Character with AMAZ-AZ-ING stats was hunting with buddies. Fairly new. Was riding our inix out to kill beetles. When the HUGE beetle walked in I didn't want to type kill beetle because some characters were riding war beetles. I typed kill HUGE instead. Go figure, Inix have the keyword huge. Whoops!
Was a nobody pc, but I'm still bummed that those stats went bye-bye.
I took a year+ break from the game a while back, not realizing that since I had not been playing there was a significant change to geography. So I'm cruising over the dunes, scanning my look scroll for creatures, not room descriptions. So I took a bit of a tumble bringing me from 130hp to below -10 instantly.
Yet the most depressing death is the meaningless one and the whole time you were doing what led to your death you fucking knew better than to be doing it. But you were bored or feeling lucky or just wanted to give your pc something to brag about.
Quote from: roughneck on July 31, 2011, 09:00:00 AM
Yet the most depressing death is the meaningless one and the whole time you were doing what led to your death you fucking knew better than to be doing it. But you were bored or feeling lucky or just wanted to give your pc something to brag about.
This. Too many times.
Quote from: roughneck on July 31, 2011, 09:00:00 AM
Yet the most depressing death is the meaningless one and the whole time you were doing what led to your death you fucking knew better than to be doing it. But you were bored or feeling lucky or just wanted to give your pc something to brag about.
"Huh, how come this noble invited me over to the estate like usual, but this time he's wearing a full head and face helm? Well... he probably just forgot to take it off, I'll just pretend like he doesn't have it on since it's probably a mistake."
About 90% of my deaths occur in the Windy Plains. Depressing.
I've been nooblared plenty of times. But being killed up north by a noob-templar with my longest lived PC sucked donkey. Mostly because my PC had been vetted by other Templars. Then someone walked up to my PC and was like "don't like ya, gonna die!" (more or less). Was a bit depressing.
Spiders man... Fucking Spiders... And slow ass sunlons...
Maxxed mage who managed to get to an otherwise impossible-to-reach place, looted/explored the area, then......failed to check exits and exited zone out of a window 5 floors above the ground....fell to an ignoble and utterly depressing death.
9 out 10 depressing deaths happen due to the player's own stupidity or lack of attention.
Arm BroTip #1217:
Don't assume your idling hours when your brain is half-dead, will not lead to your PC's demise.
Quote from: Incognito on August 01, 2011, 08:07:24 AM
Maxxed mage who managed to get to an otherwise impossible-to-reach place, looted/explored the area, then......failed to check exits and exited zone out of a window 5 floors above the ground....fell to an ignoble and utterly depressing death.
9 out 10 depressing deaths happen due to the player's own stupidity or lack of attention.
Arm BroTip #1217:
Don't assume your idling hours when your brain is half-dead, will not lead to your PC's demise.
I'm constantly terrified of that window.
This has happened to me TWICE:
Being idle as a mage for a long time and then casting a spell... only to remember that I was in the middle of Red Storm. Instant death.
Twice.
I've done it and not died...still scary.
think (irl) Well, time to go meet Amos.
st
cast 'some spell normally used before travel'
Spoof...you feel like traveling.
l
You are in a tavern, which happens to be in luirs.
OOC SHIT.
wish all Sorry, That was a total mind fart, I thought I was someplace else.
em looks around in fear but it seems everybody is too spiced and drunk to notice.
s;w;w;w;w;w;w;w;n;n;n;e;e;e;n;n;n
Luckily all the times I've done it, who shows like 3 people online.
Depressing death #539
Forgetting to remove alias's between characters. Walking into the bar with a brand new pc and uttering meaningless incantations. He was murdered later by one of the pc's in the bar, I can assume why they might have been motivated. Despite my pc being guild pickpocket.
Depressing death # 842
Same-clan npc gankage from code whoops.
Depressing death # 1032
think Just killed all those kryl, wow. Guess I better have a seat and regen some stamina. No need to draw weapons, I'll just kick back and relax.
A kryl respawns silently
A kryl respawns silently
A kryl respawns silently
A kryl respawns silently
beep.
I don't know if it's depressing since it got me into my current character, but there's the
"i've killed thousands of these things after a failed bash. besides, this is one of the weaker one"
some fuck-head kryl proceeds to melt your face with acid oh sheesh you're blind and poisoned guess it mighta been a good idea to actually get your mount huh?
oh hey that kryl from earlier? yeah he found you when you fleed. he melted your face with acid again. you feel talons ripping into your flesh
oh, hey, me again. you know that kryl from earlier? yeah, acid again.
it's uh, me again. that kr-okay. i'll come back later.
*BEEP*
Lost many a character from the omnipotent tracking abilities of the critters in game. Probably the deaths I hate the most.
Every death from an npc's uber bashing. Nothing pisses me off more than:
Big nasty enters room and instantly bashes you to the ground, leaving you to lie there long enough for it to reel lock you and kill you before you even get a chance to try and run away.
Some npc beasts really don't need to be able to bash. They're already dangerous enough as it is and npc bash is always wonky. It's worse when reel is involved.
Depressing death #32
Necker arrow: perrean
Ridding out to kill some mob critter, arrow, stiffness, blow to the head, *beep*
Quote from: Kronibas on August 01, 2011, 02:02:32 PM
This has happened to me TWICE:
Being idle as a mage for a long time and then casting a spell... only to remember that I was in the middle of Red Storm. Instant death.
Twice.
I almost did that. I get really wary of being sleepy/thirsty while playing when its a nonmundane because... you know... I don't want to blow up Luir's, and I make a lot of mistakes when I'm sleepy or thirsty. Those mistakes now count for about half my stupid my-fault deaths; the other half are, I think I know better, even though there's a chance I don't, so I'm going to try to do this dangerous thing that killed me a few months ago because I can make it now! Yeah. Yeah, there is nothing that guarentees you'll make it through the road between Luir's and Allanak unless you have a really good trained escort. Nothing. Even then, some sorceror might think you look really pretty.
Depressing death:
Getting reel-locked due to twink-bashing from a certain NPC with antlers.
Bashes me to the ground? No problem. I'll get up and flee.
Bashes me again, before I can even stand up, knocking me into another room? Huh, this isn't going well.
Bashes me - yet a fucking 'gain - while I'm still sitting on the ground, reel-locked from the 2x bash lags, now including a third.
So I basically sit there and get knocked around until one of two happens 1.) I get knocked unconscious or 2.) it finally kills me.
c 'mon un lots of lightning' north gith
You shout out to the Highlord!
BEEP
Quote from: Bogre on August 01, 2011, 11:32:04 PM
c 'mon un lots of lightning' north gith
You shout out to the Highlord!
BEEP
Yeah but for those that lived through that. It was funny ooc'ly.
Quote from: drasik on August 02, 2011, 08:13:46 PM
Quote from: Bogre on August 01, 2011, 11:32:04 PM
c 'mon un lots of lightning' north gith
You shout out to the Highlord!
BEEP
Yeah but for those that lived through that. It was funny ooc'ly.
holy crap
Quote from: CravenMadness on July 29, 2011, 09:36:41 PM
Sharak.
*edited*
Of course, if I'd have gotten a half a chance.. I'd have probably managed to get free again and who knows -how- things may've turned out...
*edit* self.
apparently some things are better left long dead. *shrug*
Sharak was slippery. I tried to kill him on numerous occasions. I'm sorry the death he eventually met was depressing.
My depressing deaths: Any death to an NPC.
Tips I've learned from friends:
Never go afk in the grasslands; Bahamets
will find you and eat you.
As a mage, always check to see what room you're in after coming back from afk; standing and casting magick at the bar is a quick way to die.
Quote from: Pale Horse on August 01, 2011, 06:51:28 PM
Lost many a character from the omnipotent tracking abilities of the critters in game. Probably the deaths I hate the most.
in the real world, humans are the only creatures intelligent enough to actually recognize tracks for what they are, according to the BBC ten years ago.
zalanthas is scary shit
Damn, Zalanthas, YOU SCARY!
I don't think I have had many depressing deaths. Most of the situations where I died I was expecting it, or knew that it was probably going to happen. I did have one time I died to a shank in the back without any foreplay first, but you know, sometimes that happens and I got over it eventually.
I have however had a few depressing lives with characters. Ideas that just didnt pan out, ect.
I like how in account notes, it says "**** (Feco) fell and died from the fall."
Quote"**** (Feco) fell and died from the fall."
Cue ominous deep noise.
Quote from: Kronibas on August 01, 2011, 02:02:32 PM
This has happened to me TWICE:
Being idle as a mage for a long time and then casting a spell... only to remember that I was in the middle of Red Storm. Instant death.
Twice.
I did this once, year+ ago and nothing happened to me. The spell had no effect though, perhaps that's what triggers the crim code.
The crim code is a weird thing. You want it to be harsh so people don't gank each other in doors but it's too harsh in some places where you can't surrender and deal with a staff or PC later to be released.
As always - bad choices on my (and not my character's) part. Either not thinking or thinking wrongly.
I played a halfling for about 2 real life years. Over 30 days time played. He escaped so many deaths that I lost track. Escaped death to other npc halflings due to some crazy code issue. Lived through multiple NPC near death encounters due to thinking he was more uber than he was. Narrowly escaped so many deaths to PC's, some uber PC's I might add, and Tuluki hunting parties and mobs of soldiers trying to retrieve one of their friends that was dragged deep into the forest by my halfling after he was paralyzed (Wow..no idea how my halfling survived that.) Lived through some great events set up by PC's, Imm sponsered events and other strange occurances. PK'd lots of PC's...around 20 or more when I absolutely had to (Being in character and always having a reason to do so...while even letting more people live when they should probably have been killed, but it was better for them to live and tell the story to spark more events. Made sure I always tried to give them some good RP before they died to make it cool.)
Ended up taking a break for a few months. Came back and played for about a week and ended up running into three half-giants. Tried to RP but got insta-bashed when they entered the room. Three skilled half-giants while bashed....*BEEP*
Got Kudos though stating they thought my guy was a NPC and they would have RP'd had they known. :(
On a special app:
/Begin Macro:
/say un hmmm
close door
spam spell at me
spam spell at me
spam spell at me
/end macro
etc etc etc.
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Lots of Halfling stuff
That guy plagued me for IC YEARS. I was probably one of the reasons he was never caught, because I was completely inept at how to kill one of you little bastards on your own turf.
Though, "If we'd have known you were a PC, we would have emoted" was an excuse that was legit, I wouldn't play Arm. Bad form.
Quote from: Riev on August 06, 2011, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Lots of Halfling stuff
That guy plagued me for IC YEARS. I was probably one of the reasons he was never caught, because I was completely inept at how to kill one of you little bastards on your own turf.
Though, "If we'd have known you were a PC, we would have emoted" was an excuse that was legit, I wouldn't play Arm. Bad form.
Haha yes I can't count how many times I tried and failed to kill that halfling with my legionnaire PC, and I remember dragging that other certain legionnaire back.. if only we caught as many halflings as we did cheotans.
Quote from: Riev on August 06, 2011, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Lots of Halfling stuff
Though, "If we'd have known you were a PC, we would have emoted" was an excuse that was legit, I wouldn't play Arm. Bad form.
I dunno man, with all the hostile halfling NPCs that were around, I can certainly sympathize with PKer's in this case.
Lord knows,
I certainly don't spark an emote-fest when I run across aggro-mob #492.
You know, I was thinking this isn't all bad. some of ya'll who have depressing deaths make nice presents to find out there in the wastes! :D I know I have.
Have been shitmugged.
Have shitmugged.
Give and you shall receive.
Died trying to bury a friend.
It was... Disappointing, to say in the least (But his actual death had some conclusive solo-roleplay that left me feeling content-ish).
I still shook my fists at the sky when he died, though.
Quote from: Majikal on August 08, 2011, 09:25:14 PM
Have been shitmugged.
Have shitmugged.
Give and you shall receive.
you can die from that..... oh my god. what a horrible death.
and there's always at least four full mugs on the bar, too
Is shitmugging actually what I think it is?
Never had that happen, too paranoid.
Quote from: Jingo on August 13, 2011, 05:22:34 PM
Is shitmugging actually what I think it is?
If you think it sounds like handing someone a mug full of shit. Yes.
That would be grounds for a player complaint. Though like cleaning fluid, really ought not be a way to kill a pc.
You could also just >look in mug.
l in shitmug
it's full of a brown liquid
l in mug of ale
it's full of a brown liquid
Quote from: Majikal on August 13, 2011, 07:55:02 PM
l in shitmug
it's full of a brown liquid
l in mug of ale
it's full of a brown liquid
Yep, the only thing which works is:
> sniff mug
Ale is brown, shit is dark brown.
noobs
Depressing death from a year ago.... Or longer.... Lets see... (man I can't beleave I've been here long enough for this)
My first Pc was named Mason (dubbed Morbid Mason by a certain Byn Lt.) He joined the Byn. Well, he got stuck in Luirs, as I had to emergancy quit. On this trip i had my first run in with a gortok, and was just scared poopless. It was AWESOME.
Well After awhile of starving and dehydrating in Luirs, and missing a few pickup attempts, i run into this Half elf ranger who offers to take me to Tuluk, so i can at least hang out with people.
We go out and about, going to random areas like the tablelands, for some reason I don't know. Meanwhile this ranger talks about being tough, ect.
So then this Carru pops out and my ranger buddy just BOLTS. And I'm like " Oh, I'll take it on"
I got it to terrible condition before being eaten...
Edit me:
Oh one more. Back during the whole southern RPT of doom thing. I had an Oashi PC burgler turned House Guard. Well I went to battle, had a fantasgreat time and all that. But during it a Tor wagon crashed into a chasm in the table lands. I thought it was hillarious, and so did a bunch of others, calling it "the flying Tor Wagon"
So I posted it on the IG board. Aparently someone SAW ME OOCLY POSTING. Even though there were many in Allanak joking about it at the time and I was simply posting it, since it seemed to be talk of the town.
I was assassinated because of it.
It was funny when a templar told me that when a glow crystal glowed, it was detecting lies though. (i had never seen one IG before, LOL)
My most depressing death.. And best Arm experience:
I had a character 12 or 13 years ago, who started out as a no-good pick pocket SOB, got in good with The Guild, then joined the Byn as a spy of sorts. Got noticed by a Templar for supplying poisons.
As he was being chased by templars, and flagged for arrest, he stowed away on a Kadian wagon with a buddy heading north.
Met a Kadian girl. Fell in reciprocated love with her over several months, and planned to wed. Kadian girl got murdered by a Northern Noble over jealousy, so my character stopped at nothing to return the favor.
Ended up with a pact between desert elves to kill said noble in return for trade favors. Northern noble was murdered, and my character wasn't implicated, even though he was the driving force.
Died to dogs while being escorted by his new fledgling love, and his house hunter to Luir's..
Best Arm experience ever, and most depressing death ever.. for me.
Survived a war with a noble house that burned down Freil's because of my antagonism, but couldn't get past a Jackal with two escorts.
One of my very first PC's, I think he was actually my second, was called Gar, nicknamed 'Little Gar' by Faithful Lord Gar Winrothol, an assassin/hunter I think. Joined house kissagrahphpaper as a partisan thanks to mr Lord Gar, and was doing swimmingly, getting trained up to be the next best thing since Disposable Runners, for use by the templarate and my house. Went out hunting with the rest of the Partisians, got seperated.
Saw a Verrin hawk.
Thought, aha! I can take this little bird!
I have since spent my time looking for that hawk.
Quote from: Riev on August 06, 2011, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Lots of Halfling stuff
That guy plagued me for IC YEARS. I was probably one of the reasons he was never caught, because I was completely inept at how to kill one of you little bastards on your own turf.
Though, "If we'd have known you were a PC, we would have emoted" was an excuse that was legit, I wouldn't play Arm. Bad form.
Is that who I think it was? It's been a year, right? Can name names at this point, yes?
Quote from: drunkendwarf on September 16, 2011, 02:37:23 AM
Quote from: Riev on August 06, 2011, 10:29:45 PM
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
Lots of Halfling stuff
That guy plagued me for IC YEARS. I was probably one of the reasons he was never caught, because I was completely inept at how to kill one of you little bastards on your own turf.
Though, "If we'd have known you were a PC, we would have emoted" was an excuse that was legit, I wouldn't play Arm. Bad form.
Is that who I think it was? It's been a year, right? Can name names at this point, yes?
I went after the green halfer quiet a few times with Prophet, but I never managed to find him. Took the fight all the way to the halfling village once, but no sign of him. Had to kill two or three dozen halflings, but I never did see the green one. He was always justout of reach, watching me from the trees off the North Road.
When somebody tells you to rest in the room that had guard guarding when you're not codedly 'recognized' by the guard cause you're a nobody, and you sit down to rest when the said somebody went somewhere else to do something.
So you're sitting in that room, -alone- with the guard. And the guard finally decides to kill you when you're just sitting there chilling. :( And I had a good role play going.
Huh?
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
I played a halfling for about 2 real life years. Over 30 days time played. He escaped so many deaths that I lost track. Escaped death to other npc halflings due to some crazy code issue. Lived through multiple NPC near death encounters due to thinking he was more uber than he was. Narrowly escaped so many deaths to PC's, some uber PC's I might add, and Tuluki hunting parties and mobs of soldiers trying to retrieve one of their friends that was dragged deep into the forest by my halfling after he was paralyzed (Wow..no idea how my halfling survived that.) Lived through some great events set up by PC's, Imm sponsered events and other strange occurances. PK'd lots of PC's...around 20 or more when I absolutely had to (Being in character and always having a reason to do so...while even letting more people live when they should probably have been killed, but it was better for them to live and tell the story to spark more events. Made sure I always tried to give them some good RP before they died to make it cool.)
Ended up taking a break for a few months. Came back and played for about a week and ended up running into three half-giants. Tried to RP but got insta-bashed when they entered the room. Three skilled half-giants while bashed....*BEEP*
Got Kudos though stating they thought my guy was a NPC and they would have RP'd had they known. :(
Dunno if you were Kust or the green guy... but I certainly miss the halfling PCs.
My first long lived character, Zak, was kind of buddies with Kust. And he was a Legionaire.
I think most of my depressing deaths go hand in hand with the thread entailing dumbest things you've ever done. I've lost a number of pcs to my old net link being so crappy in the days of phoneline modems.
The other depressing "end" is not a death but a forced retirement from my favorite clan. Basically, it was one of those years-ago super-secret clans that I could tell you about, but I'd have to kill myself in doing so. The clan was closed due to what I think was a player or two being unreasonable toward the staff, but the details are hazy. I really miss that clan sometimes and wish they could make a comeback. Ah well.
Quote from: Sunburned on September 18, 2011, 05:35:19 PM
Quote from: wildhalfling on August 06, 2011, 06:35:26 PM
I played a halfling for about 2 real life years. Over 30 days time played. He escaped so many deaths that I lost track. Escaped death to other npc halflings due to some crazy code issue. Lived through multiple NPC near death encounters due to thinking he was more uber than he was. Narrowly escaped so many deaths to PC's, some uber PC's I might add, and Tuluki hunting parties and mobs of soldiers trying to retrieve one of their friends that was dragged deep into the forest by my halfling after he was paralyzed (Wow..no idea how my halfling survived that.) Lived through some great events set up by PC's, Imm sponsered events and other strange occurances. PK'd lots of PC's...around 20 or more when I absolutely had to (Being in character and always having a reason to do so...while even letting more people live when they should probably have been killed, but it was better for them to live and tell the story to spark more events. Made sure I always tried to give them some good RP before they died to make it cool.)
Ended up taking a break for a few months. Came back and played for about a week and ended up running into three half-giants. Tried to RP but got insta-bashed when they entered the room. Three skilled half-giants while bashed....*BEEP*
Got Kudos though stating they thought my guy was a NPC and they would have RP'd had they known. :(
Dunno if you were Kust or the green guy... but I certainly miss the halfling PCs.
My first long lived character, Zak, was kind of buddies with Kust. And he was a Legionaire.
I was the green one.
http://www.armageddon.org/original/showType.php?type=Artwork (http://www.armageddon.org/original/showType.php?type=Artwork)
You can use that link to see Nok, Katar and Kust..in that order.
Yes, it was fucking depressing, no, I am not happy about it. Yes, you suck hairy fucking balls. No, I will not apologise for flaming
Ah, nothing sweetens a PKill like GDB rage. :-*
Quote from: Synthesis on September 19, 2011, 11:52:18 AM
Ah, nothing sweetens a PKill like GDB rage. :-*
:'( Seriously, I've been PK'd before, and accepted it, I've only ever once sent in a Player complaint, in nearly four fucking years, and that was rejected, and rightly so.
This how-ever, even the fucking Dali lama couldn't convince me the person was in the right on this one.
It wasn't me. I'm just sayin'--you ragin', they baskin'.
Quote from: Synthesis on September 19, 2011, 11:59:20 AM
It wasn't me. I'm just sayin'--you ragin', they baskin'.
I figured, otherwise, you'd be baskin'.
Link death. Link death during an intense scene. Nuff said.
I've had a few, loosing a good character with the best stats I've had was a bit gutting, I hadn't even realized I was linkdead until I went to log in the next time to play to find I had no character, I think I must have left in a rush and not noticed 'you are to excited to leave just yet'.
Also loosing a nearly 20 day HG that I was enjoying playing to a one round KO in an RPT was disappointing, from 180 stun to 0, one round.
Lost a ~35 day warrior in a stupid way as well, but that one was totally my own fault.
Riding a 50+ day ranger off the shield wall neck deep in plots bc it was my 2nd PC and I had no idea that would happen.. or about scramble..
More I read here, the more you realize that we all have those n00bed deaths. I -was- a n00b though..
Quote from: Kol on September 19, 2011, 11:54:35 AM
This how-ever, even the fucking Dali lama couldn't convince me the person was in the right on this one.
Send in a player complaint and then move on. Shit happens!
Quote from: jstorrie on September 19, 2011, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Kol on September 19, 2011, 11:54:35 AM
This how-ever, even the fucking Dali lama couldn't convince me the person was in the right on this one.
Send in a player complaint and then move on. Shit happens!
COMING FROM THE DICKWOD THAT GOT ZAK KILLED?!
(jk, dude)
Quote from: Sunburned on September 19, 2011, 05:55:17 PM
Quote from: jstorrie on September 19, 2011, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Kol on September 19, 2011, 11:54:35 AM
This how-ever, even the fucking Dali lama couldn't convince me the person was in the right on this one.
Send in a player complaint and then move on. Shit happens!
COMING FROM THE DICKWOD THAT GOT ZAK KILLED?!
(jk, dude)
lulz
Quote from: jstorrie on September 19, 2011, 04:49:14 PM
Quote from: Kol on September 19, 2011, 11:54:35 AM
This how-ever, even the fucking Dali lama couldn't convince me the person was in the right on this one.
Send in a player complaint and then move on. Shit happens!
Done, may not do for a few days, or ever.
Quote from: Dakota on September 19, 2011, 04:44:21 PM
Riding a 50+ day ranger off the shield wall neck deep in plots bc it was my 2nd PC and I had no idea that would happen.. or about scramble..
More I read here, the more you realize that we all have those n00bed deaths. I -was- a n00b though..
I wish I had had any PC live longer than 15 days played.....maybe I should look at clans more..=/
Quote from: wildhalfling on September 18, 2011, 09:42:39 PM
I was the green one.
http://www.armageddon.org/original/showType.php?type=Artwork (http://www.armageddon.org/original/showType.php?type=Artwork)
You can use that link to see Nok, Katar and Kust..in that order.
I think this is the picture in question:
http://www.armageddon.org/original/artwork/388.jpg
Yes, I had one, yes, I got over it. I did kind of enjoy it for a little while too.
This is an issue I know way to well, beeing an old player 95 not to brag Ive lost a ton of characters. But you got to remember, one code is not perfect, two players find ways to cheat code and three dont ever go pee when in the waste..grin... My last character was a rl year. I love him to death. Its hard but it takes alot of pacients. Once you get 20 30 days on your person you find that he becmes well rounded and almost a part of you. you crate social and private contacts and freinds that you enjoy. An issue that alot of folks forget or dont know is arm is an escape from your own reality to play someone you want to be or would be in such a world. My guy died a real stupid death while pissing in the bathroom. It was hard and I was hartbroken but you have to push through it and start a new idea. So far as a human aspect. there are restrictions, but it nothing like it use to be and I give the Imms old and new a big thumbs up.. they dont get paid and theres alot of time involved. I have alot of respect towards that and thanks as well... the new codes over the last 5 or so years have really brought a new light to the roleplay and I love it. one last note, remember where all here to have fun. If you lose your favorite character its hard to step back in, but give it a few days and that old arm crack pipe will lite and youll be surprized how easy it is to get back into it.. always remember where here to have fun and enjoy the game.
And to the imms that know me, I bet your all glad I quit drinking... wink
Zharal
I'm waiting for the bitter death notes thread.
:'( When instead of going alone, you bring someone along. An -that's- when shit happens.
Thought I was pretty bad ass at climbing, fell down a well and broke my neck :(
Reread my log of my fav. char's stupid last moments to check if it had been a year yet.
Felt the pain and frustration and puppy-punching WHY surge bile-like up my throat, nearly as fresh as that day.
Oh for the day I can mourn openly.
The shit factor in regards to manner of death increases exponentially in relation how much I enjoy a character.
Playing a somewhat powerful elementalist, that had been recruited into a special (hard to join) group of "evil" type magiker peers that are planning to take over the world when I encounter a strange NPC fighting friendly NPCs in our camp. The enemy NPC casts a spell killing me. If I'd had properly prepared myself, it wouldn't have happened.
Got to play a character I had wanted to for awhile... it was a Ranger. He was rather solo on most things, but with good reason. The character was going to be long lived in my opinion, had a few plots going on that were rather interesting. I'm off hunting, this guy can take on pretty much anything, nearly unstoppable... This is when my lack of attention got this guy killed... Went and toyed with a mob and got poisoned. Didn't have any cures for that poison... didn't have ability to get cure... none of his friends were around... he died a slow, pitiful death in a cave trying to sleep it off. I was very sad to loose that one... just because I didn't think ahead to check my cures. :(
That reminds me of my loneliest death, in a tavern full of the uncaring. I even arranged the evidence for my death, but it got nicked straight away.
Getting lost in a storm trying to find Red Storm and getting poisoned and chased in a storm by beetles and other things galore and Making it through all that.
Fighting my way north, with Gith on my ass the entire way.
Struggling and falling off the shield wall and making it.
Hauling ass through the PAH with gith again chasing me.
Getting nailed by a carru on the way and living still
Evading toks on the road though they got a piece of me.
Made it all the way to the gates of Tuluk before finding them closed cause some fool lured something there.
Fighting my way around and getting lost in a storm but making it to find a raptor waiting.
Welcome to Armageddon
My most depressing death was lying there perained and slowly (like 10+ RL minutes slowly) bashed to death by a single kryl after fighting off a dozen or more. All while something much bigger and badassier than a kryl (who should have been helping me out) sat there and "stared down, his alien features indifferent."
It was quite a fun ride up until that point though. And hearing, later on, about what happened next made it more than worth while. But it still sucked at the moment. :D
I once lost an almost fully-branched Rukkian to a perfect storm of southern wildlife (beetle + tarantula + silt flier) while unbuffed. Losing the character wasn't such a big deal; it was losing her relationships that I regretted.
Out in the Boonies [NSE]
The shattered ruins of things buitl by people much scarier than you loom here, loomfully. Something indescribable prevented from going downstairs. Aside from hostile humanoids and hostile wildlife, no other living soul seems to be here and you're pretty sure you should go home.
The figure in a dusty, sand-brown greatcloak looks at you.
You whirl around, shrieking.
The figure in a dusty, sand-brown greatcloak says, cheerfully, in sirihish,
"Oh! Aren't you <censored>'s sister?"
My most depressing death happened about eight years ago, back when the staff were a lot less stringent about promoting players/characters to positions of game authority that would make the game more scary and fun, and instead used a different criterion, heh.
So back then I had my first-ever desert elf. I certainly don't want to spoil the fun for newer players who have not yet experienced a desert elf, but suffice it to say that my character was pretty seriously jacked. By the time that I'd logged a couple of days of play time this character was already dominating the wastelands. Growing a little bored of this, I started spending a bit of time in the civilized areas as a change of pace.
At some point my character was approached by The Babe. The Babe was this foxy half-elven chick who lived in Luir's Outpost. Very pragmatic and businesslike, she was lusted after by many a warrior but never had more than a dozen words to spare for passing travelers or rolling stones. So you can understand how this made me feel.
We were chatting one day and things got to the point where I was seriously considering MUDsexing her. I don't MUDsex at all these days, and didn't much back then. I've always had a thing about getting women to open up to me (emotionally) who are tough nuts to crack. This is sort of my thing.
Right about the time that I was getting ready to make my move, up comes That Guy pacing behind me, and points a weapon in my back. He was some jerk that was an officer in the Kurac Fist, which as you know more or less makes him a god inside of Luir's Outpost. Please take note that a couple of other posts in this thread have mentioned this type of character before.
Ignoring him didn't make That Guy go away, so I had to apologize to The Babe and turn to address That Guy. He basically told me that he wanted to run me through if I didn't go to a holding cell somewhere where he could interrogate me. Understanding that the guy probably was a staff avatar and also was probably only interested in me based upon metagamming, I wasn't thrilled with doing what he said but obviously didn't want to die. I moved slowly to comply with his instructions...
...apparently not fast enough for him, because he attacked me anyway. And so a half-giant, a Kuraci with a broadsword and a guard all (NPC) insta-rush me as well.
So there I am, hodling off the four of them with my knife for three or four combat rounds, trying to negotiate a surrender with That Guy while The Babe looks on in horror. That Guy was far more interested in killing/looting me. My hit points drop below about 40% and so I decided to make a run for it. I made it half way through Luir's to the gates when...wouldn't you know it, the nutcase NPC with the broadsword caught up with me and mowed me down.
I was killed by a noncombatant. I'd seen That Guy give similar treatment to a couple of other (mostly harmless) travelers.
Fortunately, the staff do a lot better job than they used to in weeding people out who are going to behave like that. Luir's used to be really funny, though. A Kurac sergeant would have about 90% of the power of a Templar but only go through about 30% of the screening. Which brings me to the only other in game death that I resent.
My sympathies for your situation depend on what kind of desert elf you were playing at the time...
I'm mostly confused as to why a half-elf was considered a trophy seduction... ???
My most depressing death came following the words "Of course you'll see me again."
Part II
Okay, so about a decade of playing and I don't really resent but two of my deaths.
This was about a year after the previous one. I was playing an elven gangster from the North Quarter of Allanak. My character was pretty low-key but a reasonably competent business man. I'd made it past the month mark so other players were starting to recognize and welcome my influence in Allanak.
Fast forward in time a few days and this new player (also playing an elf) kept running into trouble with people. He was having trouble surviving the sort of confrontations (e.g. harrassment) that are the background static of playing an urban elf. By this point many were clamoring for his blood. ,
I put some serious thought into the matter, and I had to admire the kid. Here he was, new to the game, and he had the courage to try to play an elf. Against my better judgment, I decided to do a good deed and to take him under my wing. I have a soft spot for new player, and this --ALWAYS-- lands me in trouble. Typically trouble with veteran players.
So I make the rounds and apologize to all of the people who he has offended (merely by being an elf, heh) and then work to smooth things over. All is forgiven. Respect for my character has grown around Allanak for the way that I've handled the situation. That accomplished, I realized that I lacked the time to make a round of public apologies every time the kid screwed up. He needed more supervision than I could offer him.
Mentally I made an inventory of all the places I could stash the kid while his player learned the game syntax, etiquette, etc. No one in Allanak would conceivably be willing to take him in. There was not much of an active playerbase in Red Storm. Luir's outpost, and hence the Kuraci Fist, became the most appropriate Baby Sitters for the kid.
So we set out. On the road, I left behind my protective network of employees, friends, clients and even the city guard to reach Luir's. I won't complain about this being difficult because it is actually more difficult to get a city elf to Luir's now than it was then. Just keep in mind I had another city elf slowing me down who was being played by a total noob.
Yet we reach Luirs. I show the kid around. He seems to like the place. I do some shopping, smoke some spice, get my clothes cleaned. All is well. And it turns out that there are openings for soldiers in the Kuraci Fist. Unfortunately, none of the officers are online, so we need to wait to talk to one. Game days turn into real life days. We wait. Surprisingly the kid has taken pretty well to my coaching and manages to avoid offending everyone important in Luirs. I start to feel good. Perhaps I was right? All the kid needed was a fresh start.
And the natives don't seem to resent our presence at all. In fact, there is a good deal of interest in us. Our belongings. Our back story. Our motives for traveling to Luir's. I explain to people that the kid is my nephew, and that he's a troubled young man who just needs some military discipline to help him find his place in the world. A common enough problem for people to face, and in this case it's about 90% true.
This story succeeds mainly in generating a ton more interest in my character, and here is where the metagaming really starts. In real life, it's very common for someone to want to jump a border to avoid dealing with minor legal trouble, or to find a job.
Finally I'm granted a second interview with a Sergeant, this time presumably to close on a deal that will exchange several years of military service from my "nephew" in exchange for some discipline. I attend the interview with Sergeant Fussyface.
Now, as far as background goes, I have especial reason to dislike Sergeant Fussyface. I'd known her since before she was a trooper (through other characters.) Back when she was a new character, she was a little too quiet. Her emotes were a little too perfect. Her character lacked any kind of personality, for reasons that were entirely obvious to me (as a player). She wanted power. Staff were once-upon-a-time more willing to promote really bland players to leadership than they were to promote someone like Sharlo Kadius or Raul d'Furies.
So long story short, I hate this bitch. But I wasn't expecting any trouble, going into the meeting. The Fist was hiring and I was supplying cheap labor. It wasn't an interview, it was a confirmation hearing. What could be simpler?
But right off the bat, the questions started getting weird.
Her: Why have you come to Luir's?
Me: Uh, to get my nephew a job? (I thought I'd told her this?)
Her: Why don't you get him a job with your clan?
And I think here is where the disconnect happened. I mean, it's true that I was a mid-tier operator in a reasonably heavy-weight elven criminal clan from Allanak. But I don't think she understood a simple fact about elven culture. I mean, I don't think her player understood. Some elven families provide employment to their members. Some elven families --don't-- provide employment to their members. She just couldn't seem to wrap her brain around the fact that there were no jobs for a wayward elf in Allanak, criminally or otherwise. She couldn't accept at face value the simple situation that a young man had a bit of trouble and needed someplace to go for military discipline.
The discussion became pretty tense when it became clear that she thought my character was lying to her, and that I felt the problem was 90% out of game.
At some point I realized that her player was just absolutely batty insane. Having learned from my previous experience getting jumped in Luir's, I decided to spam run the fuck away and just cut the kid loose. The whole situation wasn't worth loosing a respected eight-day gangster.
leave;s;w;s;w;n;n;n;n;e;n;run;e;n
went well enough and I'm out. I jog a few miles in the wasteland and then find a spot to catch my breath, pulling my blade just in case. Quick sip of water. It occurred to me that the decent thing to do was to use the Way to send a message to the kid, warning him to get the hell out and every man for himself.
But some cloaked people come up to me on mounts. It's her. Proving that she's insane by tracking me through the wastelands over a misunderstanding.
But hell, she doesn't have her legion of goons around her now? There's only two of them. I attack.
And begin to win? She pulls a different blade and then nails me with a 1,000 coin poison. Seriously.
So I run away, and somehow manage to loose them. I happen upon a group of like six PCs. Desperately, I give them my story. They've heard of Her. They hate Her. They agree that she's nuts. They offer to help me, so long as it doesn't cause them any grief.
...except that she comes riding up at that moment, and give the group of PCs the lamest excuse, and proceeds to slaughter me in front of a group of witnesses.
*****************
Whew! That felt good to get off my chest. It's been about ten years and really there's only the two death experiences that I really regret. I've mostly been lucky. When the code eats my characters, I chalk it up to experience. When PCs kill my characters, I chalk it up to competitiveness. When mobiles kill my character, it's part of the harsh atmosphere.
I was following you until you started blaming a player for something that can easily be explained away as something entirely IC. The player is NOT the PC.
Moral of both stories: when you take your desert elf/rinthi elf out of the places that they are supposed to have power/influence, don't blame it on other players when you get schooled.
Quote from: Delirium on October 17, 2011, 02:19:56 PM
I'm mostly confused as to why a half-elf was considered a trophy seduction... ???
I was living in Columbus Ohio at the time? I was about 33 and really horny. There are no attractive women in Columbus. I once drove from Columbus to Pittsburg just to get laid.
MUDsexing some bored housewife (or possibly a guy) seemed perfectly reasonable.
If there was some long-lived, mysterious, emotionally reserved PC badass hanging around, I'd try to crack them just because no one else had. A breed that thinks they're too good for my PC? Hell no, not unless I'm a miserable shoddy breed, too.
Quote from: Nyr on October 17, 2011, 02:53:54 PM
Moral of both stories: when you take your desert elf/rinthi elf out of the places that they are supposed to have power/influence, don't blame it on other players when you get schooled.
Damned skippy.
Quote from: jriley on October 17, 2011, 03:03:53 PM
Quote from: Delirium on October 17, 2011, 02:19:56 PM
I'm mostly confused as to why a half-elf was considered a trophy seduction... ???
I was living in Columbus Ohio at the time? I was about 33 and really horny. There are no attractive women in Columbus. I once drove from Columbus to Pittsburg just to get laid.
MUDsexing some bored housewife (or possibly a guy) seemed perfectly reasonable.
Truly more depressing than any death :-[
My most depressing death was when I died to poop due to my own stupidity/drunkenness. No, not in the way that you would think. Unless you were there. Then you would know.
You would know.
damn that was a long drop :(
dude.. I really need to stop playing this game high..
Quote from: askaran on October 22, 2011, 05:05:44 AM
dude.. I really need to stop playing this game high..
I did, but not because of stupid mistakes. I find myself taking so long to type emotes when high that by the time I complete the emote or say, the moment for it has passed, resulting in perpetual silence from my end.
Playing drunk, however, is filled with mistakes. I apparently logged in once with a mul assassin while blackout drunk and started killing random shit and got him tossed into the arena. Which I have no recollection of whatsoever, so I actually thought the imm who responded to me to tell me what happened was lying. Haha.
The only time I ever played Armageddon while drunk, I rolled up a character after a long period of not playing.
Imagine my surprise when I came back a while later to discover lo, I had a character! Where the hell did that guy come from?
The only death I feel crappy about is logging in early, getting into a bad situation while bleary, and forgetting how to type his weapon`s name.
Quote from: WWYD on October 29, 2011, 10:18:51 PM
The only death I feel crappy about is logging in early, getting into a bad situation while bleary, and forgetting how to type his weapon`s name.
> draw sword
You don't have that.
> draw simiter
You don't have that.
> draw scim
Your vision goes black.
Welcome to Armageddon!
I don't know if I'll be able to enjoy this game again. I'm not leaving, I'm going to keep trying. I am not mad at what happened, I'm mad at myself. I blame myself, because there is so much I could have done, that I didn't do. I am kicking myself. I really loved that character, I really had fun on them. It's my fault and my fault alone. Largely player error, largely my own stupidity. I don't think I'll connect with another one, I miss this last one so much. I am full on hating myself so hard right now.
I resent those of you who have someone else to blame for this. You can be mad at them, you can believe that you did what you could and that it was unfair.
But this wasn't the case. It was me. I did it. I killed them. Me. I was stupid, and I'll never have that again.
...and I'm having such a hard time playing the game now.
I'm fucking heartbroken.
I was playing one of my favorite PCs (my 1st real Byner) and finally after a lot of stuff she and her brother (real, IC brother) were going to do some much-needed planning. They were hiding in the 'rinith when these NPCs from one room over start hassling them. Finally, the NPCs straight out attack the brother. I rush to assist (* this was when assist was still pretty new, so I was used to >hit <keyword>) and (because all the NPCs are coming out of the woodwork and all have the exact same keyword) I instead end starting a fight with an NPC. Needless to say my PC is put down -- all because some Staff Member decided it would be "fun" (yes, fun, I was told this later in an Imm email that the Staff member thought it'd be fun).
My first Bynner, was no bynner. I had made my 1st HG a non-combat type. But, then a templar forced him into the Byn for training and he easily lost to a dwarf.
Quote from: My 2 sids on November 19, 2011, 11:57:12 AM
I was playing one of my favorite PCs (my 1st real Byner) and finally after a lot of stuff she and her brother (real, IC brother) were going to do some much-needed planning.
I've got good memories of her, especially when the Sarg pulled her out of his hat.(Sister..yeah?)
I'm sorry to hear she died more or less accidentally, though she was the more expendable one. :P
Quote from: Karieith on November 19, 2011, 10:31:38 AM
I don't know if I'll be able to enjoy this game again. I'm not leaving, I'm going to keep trying. I am not mad at what happened, I'm mad at myself. I blame myself, because there is so much I could have done, that I didn't do. I am kicking myself. I really loved that character, I really had fun on them. It's my fault and my fault alone. Largely player error, largely my own stupidity. I don't think I'll connect with another one, I miss this last one so much. I am full on hating myself so hard right now.
I resent those of you who have someone else to blame for this. You can be mad at them, you can believe that you did what you could and that it was unfair.
But this wasn't the case. It was me. I did it. I killed them. Me. I was stupid, and I'll never have that again.
...and I'm having such a hard time playing the game now.
I'm fucking heartbroken.
It's rough. As you lose more you'll get a bit more used to it, but there will always be those that really hurt.
It's part of the game, part of the world, and you just have to get back on the horse when you're ready to ride again.
That's the fun right, the riding? Knowing that it won't be forever.
Quote from: Karieith on November 19, 2011, 10:31:38 AM
It was me. I did it. I killed them. Me. I was stupid, and I'll never have that again.
...and I'm having such a hard time playing the game now.
I'm fucking heartbroken.
Nearly _every_ death of every PC I've had has been a mistake on my part or it's part. I prefer the mistakes when they are character driven. But regardless the good ones always break your heart. They should. Like reading a good book and some character you love dies. It isn't a good story otherwise. So - congratulations on having something worth feeling bad about, for having a good story. That's what the game is about. In a sense we're all masochists. We all know our characters are going to die, the question is when?
It's my hope that you never play perfectly. And if you do, then never allow your characters to play perfectly. Remember to allow yourself to forget which fruit is poison, which dude is the REAL bad guy and how exactly to get from Tuluk to Allanak or from Allanak to Red Storm.
Keep making mistakes. That is where you will find your real character development.
Quote from: Karieith on November 19, 2011, 10:31:38 AM
I don't know if I'll be able to enjoy this game again. I'm not leaving, I'm going to keep trying. I am not mad at what happened, I'm mad at myself. I blame myself, because there is so much I could have done, that I didn't do. I am kicking myself. I really loved that character, I really had fun on them. It's my fault and my fault alone. Largely player error, largely my own stupidity. I don't think I'll connect with another one, I miss this last one so much. I am full on hating myself so hard right now.
I resent those of you who have someone else to blame for this. You can be mad at them, you can believe that you did what you could and that it was unfair.
But this wasn't the case. It was me. I did it. I killed them. Me. I was stupid, and I'll never have that again.
...and I'm having such a hard time playing the game now.
I'm fucking heartbroken.
This is what happens to most of my characters, and it Hurts. Loss of friends/ enemies and clan as well. Loss of skills and loss of a life that I've seen develop most times from a youngish 'un. Just loss of them.
My ignorance I can live with, but when I think I'm over playing OOC stupidly and I'm not....
Most new characters are an attempt to get as far away from the old one as I can, so it normally takes a long time to warm to some of them.
I hate it.
Quote from: Karieith on November 19, 2011, 10:31:38 AM
I don't know if I'll be able to enjoy this game again. I'm not leaving, I'm going to keep trying. I am not mad at what happened, I'm mad at myself. I blame myself, because there is so much I could have done, that I didn't do. I am kicking myself. I really loved that character, I really had fun on them. It's my fault and my fault alone. Largely player error, largely my own stupidity. I don't think I'll connect with another one, I miss this last one so much. I am full on hating myself so hard right now.
I resent those of you who have someone else to blame for this. You can be mad at them, you can believe that you did what you could and that it was unfair.
But this wasn't the case. It was me. I did it. I killed them. Me. I was stupid, and I'll never have that again.
...and I'm having such a hard time playing the game now.
I'm fucking heartbroken.
Sometimes when I kill a character I wonder how much anguish I've caused on the other end to the player. Sometimes I'm able to see it for myself when someone PKs my character.
I once got really mad at one PK that I thought was completely unnecessary. I even sent a few emails off in anger to the staff about it as kudos began to roll in. I think I stayed out of the game for six months because of it.
It gets easier, but there will always be characters you will miss terribly.
This is one of those reasons why I post a lot on the GDB, actually.
Long lived character loss sucks because there's that whole ... terrible feeling that comes with having to start over from scratch, but the community going on here really lessens the blow. :-*
Yeah. As embarrassing as this sounds to admit, when my longest lived PC died, I literally reeled. Like, in real life. You could've told me a close friend had died and you might've gotten about an equal to lesser reaction out of me in comparison to how I felt when my PC died.
I think, mostly, it was just the unexpected abruptness of it.
Truly jarring.
I remember having another application in within fifteen minutes of my longest-lived PC's death.
Had a death of a recent year-longish character I really liked. He was "going places" and whammo. Had a spark of some action just prior to his death though that was kinda neat.
But yeah, took a couple of days to get over. After you have a few of those you realize that next character will meet new people and you'll do "neat things" (tm) and will be back to where you started, just in a different way.
When my year+++ PCs die I am like OH THANK GOD!!!
By then I have 16253553553 concepts saved up.
Aged: 10 years Played: 56 days, 16 hours Start Date: Tue Jul 28 16:44:06 2009 Last Logon: Fri Oct 22 16:01:45 2010
next character
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Sometimes I get depressed as a murderer of pc's. I watch a pc grow through one of my characters, then a few characters down the line they become a victim to another of my characters. Despite it being ic, I feel like I betrayed them.
I've shed a tear over murdering a pc ig before, I'm such a wuss.
Having PKd a few that didn't know they had it coming, I generally feel bad for the player because I know it sucks to not know why you have died and that it can feel like no one role-played. Hey, been there myself, so I know it sucks. Sometimes, when I can recognize them from their grief-stricken GDB post, I'll contact them to ensure that there was RP before and after and that it wasn't just for their boots. Well, sometimes it is - but I lie about that.
I doubt it helps them get over their grief, but maybe it helps them see the picture is larger than what they could see through their own character's eyes. That is, after all, what makes this world what it is. There is a perpetual sandstorm out there and we see very little.
It helps me to let go of a sense of achievement. It's not about gaining rank or skill or anything else. It's about living that character. That way I don't feel like I'm at ground-zero again, but that I've turned a page in a living story.
Is this healthy? Are we playing a real game with real lives? Does a person, a soul occupy the part that makes up these characters, formed by a piece of our psychy, and who and what the come to represent in game? Are we just cruel gods deriving entertainment from the deaths of real, feeling beings..?
Or am I just trolling
If you were trolling those questions would be statements.
Quote from: X-D on November 23, 2011, 11:24:51 PM
When my year+++ PCs die I am like OH THANK GOD!!!
lol
Quote from: X-D on November 23, 2011, 11:24:51 PM
When my year+++ PCs die I am like OH THANK GOD!!!
So is everyone else.
Do not...do not...do not come here to bitch about recent deaths. Nope. Just don't do it. Or the thread will go bye-bye.
All those deaths from your desire to explore the amazing wilderness and when you actually are knowledgeable enough to know what to avoid and where to go and NOT to go out in certain strengths of sandstorms without the proper guilds... you don't anymore because you know what's out there. But you still die. There is so, so much to die from.
if you're reading this and are in that state of mind, where you're independent, want to explore, don't know what's out there and keep losing characters to it, I recommend ranger, if you don't already know that. I must have lost thirty characters to the desire to explore the world.
I once killed a PC, but died soon after myself. With my next character I met my old victim's lover and heard a heartbreaking story of her lost love. Then I died and somehow my 'next' character ended up listening to the same story again, and then ... some other character character down the road ended up hearing the same story again. Now "THAT" is depressing. Especially since I knew that the guy I killed was only using and manipulating the woman.
Quote from: Dar on December 29, 2011, 06:49:34 PM
I once killed a PC, but died soon after myself. With my next character I met my old victim's lover and heard a heartbreaking story of her lost love. Then I died and somehow my 'next' character ended up listening to the same story again, and then ... some other character character down the road ended up hearing the same story again. Now "THAT" is depressing. Especially since I knew that the guy I killed was only using and manipulating the woman.
That is so fucking awesome.
Some deaths can suck, sure. My trick to getting over it is to just make a new PC as soon as possible and get back in.
Focus on feeling out the new mindset and learning this new person. It is like breaking up in a relationship in real life, at first it sucks, but when you meet that beautiful new other you start to forget about the last one.
My deaths stopped being depressing about, say, ten genuine got-killed not-stored deaths ago and more so, goddamn funny. I think its because I haven't had a genuine, I'd-die-for-you relationship with anyone in the game in at least a few months which would have made my deaths an ass.
The only depressing deaths I've had have been to foolish mistakes on my part. Gotta hate those badass NPCs.
I take that back.
There was a noble in Tuluk that didn't last very long, but they managed to take down my long-lived ranger in the meantime because they felt I had slighted them. I wasn't depressed, but I was very disappointed. At least the RP was decent.
My very first Red Fang ever. He was .. awesome. When I began playing RF, the tribe was not how most remember it in the past few years. There was no coded camp. Red Fangs had to claim they were ... sand jakhals, celves, or lonefoots just to survive one single RL day due to SLK and ... admittedly ... everyone else and ... for the most part ... for a good reason.
Anyway, he was awessome. The stuff he did was ... the stuff of legends. I was probably the 'only' Red Fang in the entire world at the time. Though it was hard to be sure, since RF would begin in the Elven Outpost and either bolt and run or be slaughtered by SLK on their first day. So RF was ... scattered.
Anyway, that RF ... was ... awesome. It was ... awesome. It was ... just. I really liked it. He have managed to somehow overcome odds that were crazy, considering how young and unskilled he was. He performed full raids, sometimes on sheer bluffing, sometimes straight out cons. He was the elf who stole a beetle off some woman in luirs and then sold it back to her on his first hour of gameplay.
Then ... I had an emergency at work and I had to go. Like stand up, put shoes on and leave. I come back ... did SLK get him? No. Did some dangerous critter? Nah. He died of hunger ... the npc who sold food ... was IN the room with him.
A month or two later, hunger stopped ticking down after one hour of idleness.
A few months later, another one of my RFs along with some other RF created and staked out a collection of tents in some caves that later on would turn out into the awesomeness of what the RF camp used to be until their extinction :D
One of the things I love most about Armageddon is the longevity and memory of it's players and staff.
I was gone from Arm for 11 years or so. I logged into my account just for shits and giggles, and found it was still active, much to my surprise..
Entered the world as my last character, a Fale Lord, who was half insane and spoke to the world with a hand-puppet. I immediately checked his stats and noticed he was 150 years old, give or take.
I wished up, since the GDB and character requests such as storing weren't available back then, so I didn't know, saying "Hey, this character needs to die so I can make a new one", the staff sent me a message "Dead or Stored?"
I said "Dead, he's 150 years old!"
The Staff who was accomodating me sent "I vaguely remember Mr. Tek"
And before I could wish back "OMG That's so freakin' cool that something I did that long ago is still remembered by someone! You've renewed my Arm Addiction!!"
I saw the mantis head.
Depressing that I couldn't get that thought out. :-\
I'm interested to see what your stats and health/stun/stamina was like, at age 150.
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on January 13, 2012, 02:04:31 AM
I'm interested to see what your stats and health/stun/stamina was like, at age 150.
Wise as all get-out, minimum on all the others, I'd imagine.
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on January 13, 2012, 02:04:31 AM
I'm interested to see what your stats and health/stun/stamina was like, at age 150.
The only thing that I remember for sure was only having like 40 stamina.
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Quote from: Gunnerblaster on January 13, 2012, 02:04:31 AM
I'm interested to see what your stats and health/stun/stamina was like, at age 150.
The only thing that I remember for sure was only having like 40 stamina.
You can send a Staff Kudos, to get that last wish/thought to the staff member who accommodated the death wish.
Oh damn... that might be fun as hell to play. Maybe he bribed the crap out of a black robe or something so he's still alive but has the body of like... Mr. Burns.
Quote from: Marauder Moe on January 13, 2012, 03:24:14 PM
Oh damn... that might be fun as hell to play. Maybe he bribed the crap out of a black robe or something so he's still alive but has the body of like... Mr. Burns.
Seriously, this is a good idea. Templars could potentially get away with a lot of ideas that wouldn't be accepted applying as anyone else.
Quote from: jriley on October 17, 2011, 02:34:07 PM
Staff were once-upon-a-time more willing to promote really bland players to leadership than they were to promote someone like Sharlo Kadius or Raul d'Furies
You're fucking awesome for that.
My most depressing death: Sharlo Kadius'
most depressing death is a toss up between my delf/undead nilazi vire, or my red fang cur.
vire got involved involved in a lot of amazing shit back when bhagarva ran the desert elves, and opened my eyes to a lot of really incredible and intriguing aspects of the world. i was having a lot of fun playing that character until someone cast a non-combative spell and he instantly died. lame. i think the most depressing part about that death was knowing that it could've easily been prevented. i tend to get complacent when i think that my characters are "powerful".
cur was such a fun character to play, and a total shithead that deserved to die. i had never played a "raiding" sort of character before and i really tried hard to go out of my way to give people rp when they were more or less powerless to fight him. he definitely killed or otherwise totally fucked over his fair share of pcs but i'd like to hope that -i- didn't act like a dickhead in the process. anyway.. he more or less ran around and did whatever the fuck he wanted, which included a lot of fun play with characters that shouldn't have involved themselves with him or his tribe. it was a hell of a lot of fun. he got cocky in some dealings with kurac and stupidly went into a wagon to talk to agent whomever, then got magically dragged our of luir's and instantly knocked out by "a blue hazy cloud" or some shit. of course he died afterward. depressing because he was so goddamn fun to play, and because of the "what ifs"... like typing 'draw sword' probably would've saved his life.
I remember Cur. That motherfucker was everything a Red Fang should be.
I remember battling Cur with my clumsy, oft-raging mul.
Definitely a highlight rival.
Ah Cur. Our rare meetings were memorable.
Quote from: Khorm on January 25, 2012, 05:21:40 PM
most depressing death is a toss up between my delf/undead nilazi vire, or my red fang cur.
vire got involved involved in a lot of amazing shit back when bhagarva ran the desert elves, and opened my eyes to a lot of really incredible and intriguing aspects of the world. i was having a lot of fun playing that character until someone cast a non-combative spell and he instantly died. lame. i think the most depressing part about that death was knowing that it could've easily been prevented. i tend to get complacent when i think that my characters are "powerful".
cur was such a fun character to play, and a total shithead that deserved to die. i had never played a "raiding" sort of character before and i really tried hard to go out of my way to give people rp when they were more or less powerless to fight him. he definitely killed or otherwise totally fucked over his fair share of pcs but i'd like to hope that -i- didn't act like a dickhead in the process. anyway.. he more or less ran around and did whatever the fuck he wanted, which included a lot of fun play with characters that shouldn't have involved themselves with him or his tribe. it was a hell of a lot of fun. he got cocky in some dealings with kurac and stupidly went into a wagon to talk to agent whomever, then got magically dragged our of luir's and instantly knocked out by "a blue hazy cloud" or some shit. of course he died afterward. depressing because he was so goddamn fun to play, and because of the "what ifs"... like typing 'draw sword' probably would've saved his life.
One of Sephiroto's most depressing deaths should be that time where you accidentally paralyzed him with your Elkran while we were raiding outside of Tuluk... and our raidee whacked him. Well played sir.
One of my most depressing deaths: Passing out from eating Xanax (IRL) and slowly dehydrating outside the gates of Nak as Khorm's PC frantically emoted pouring water down my throat
Fucking sad.
I remember Cur! That douche raided me so many times.....and then asked for protection money. A true Red Fang. You should post some of his raid logs if you ever get the chance.
I am still substantially upset about the manner of my last character's death. I occasionally need to lay down to cope with it. I wasn't this upset when my grandfather died. At least he had closure and a good reason to go.
I had a most depressing PC ending, but i have to say, I have moved on, except at times when I encounter reminders. Then the longing for that Pc returns and thus the pang of an ill conceived ending.
Mmmmm. This is what I love about Armageddon.
RGS caused mine. :p
I think my retirements have all been more depressing than my deaths. Well, except for that one time I got gang-banged by salt worms.
Quote from: jstorrie on March 01, 2012, 07:08:04 PMI think my retirements have all been more depressing than my deaths.
This. After the last time, I thought about it, and wondered, why didn't I just go out with a bang? Facepalm.
I swore I would do my best to die awesomely instead of ninjastore, from then on. Unless it really, really doesn't make sense, I guess.
Sometimes the most depressing deaths arent yours, but someone else's.
Quote from: Maso on March 01, 2012, 07:05:22 PM
RGS caused mine. :p
Still kinda feel bad about that one. I was pretty nubby back then. Could have worked that situation much more into his favor... And he died so fucking stupidly too.
I still get icky about it, 2 years! Worse because your character ended up dying before she did. :p
What a waste!
Ugh. Almost 2 years later and I still just shake my head and draw in a deep breath, whenever I think about how my most favored went out.
It won't go. Mine died 3/4 years ago. Funny how attached you get.
Quote from: Maso on March 01, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
It won't go. Mine died 3/4 years ago. Funny how attached you get.
Yeah. It's fucking weird. I've never had such an emotional reaction, like I did for that character, than I've had for any other. Hell, I reacted as seriously as if someone had just told me a very close friend had died.
I just haven't been able to enjoy the game, the way I used to, since then. I
really want to enjoy playing again and, believe me, I rolled up a few characters afterwards but I just... Lost the ability to really care for them, as characters.
I think that's the most depressing part about it.
I think you find, when you have a long lived character that you really get into...it kind of becomes second nature. This game is so immersive...and playing the same character for such a long time is bound to create a connection. It's bizarre. I'd played her for two years give or take...and still wasn't getting bored or wanting to move on - at all. I rolled some throwaways after that...then went through two nobles which I just couldn't get into either...wasn't ready to move on...so I quit...for 3 years. :p
It is the nature of the beast though, I guess. :)
Quote from: just_another_face on March 01, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Sometimes the most depressing deaths arent yours, but someone else's.
+1
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Quote from: Maso on March 01, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
It won't go. Mine died 3/4 years ago. Funny how attached you get.
Yeah. It's fucking weird. I've never had such an emotional reaction, like I did for that character, than I've had for any other. Hell, I reacted as seriously as if someone had just told me a very close friend had died.
I just haven't been able to enjoy the game, the way I used to, since then. I really want to enjoy playing again and, believe me, I rolled up a few characters afterwards but I just... Lost the ability to really care for them, as characters.
I think that's the most depressing part about it.
When I was new to the game, my PC pretended to be your aforementioned character after he died, and tried to become a raider for five minutes.
FAILED MISERABLY.
That's a pretty cool homage.
Lol - It wasn't his gear which made him so awesome :P
That dude was awesome. From Day 1, I played him extreme - Literally had him walking around in boots, leggings, barechested and wearing only a sleeveless cloak with a huge bone sword, traveling by foot with his trusty Erdlu carrying his pack.
Quote from: Kronibas on January 13, 2012, 03:48:57 PM
My most depressing death: Sharlo Kadius'
This is also one of my most depressing deaths.
My most depressing to date was my first spec app / Drovian years ago. I think it was like, my 5th PC ever or something. It was so depressing that I couldn't eat for two days straight - embarrassing, I know. All my other PC deaths were only about half a day of sulking at most.
It was the Drovian from my signature, by the way.
She only cast like... 5 spells ever, and only lived a bit over 5 days of accumulated playtime, but she had this mute VNPC daughter and an incredibly deep and rich personality and history right off the bat. Tlaloc even spread some Byn rumor for the sake of her background. I could solo RP for hours and never be bored.
The most depressing part was that she sat in jail for several RL days because I was offpeak, and the executing templar just couldn't make my times. Waiting to probably die, unable to do anything, being depressed in RL over it. I remember going to the cinema just to get my mind off this pending character death for a few hours.
Oh, and my very next PC after that had an assassin hired on her for basically no reason other than being a goody two shoes who wanted to help. Same PC who was the downfall of my Drovian.
Yeah, I'm STILL bitter about it. >:(
Depressing death:
Aide to Winrothol noble just after liberation.
Winrothol noble decides to seduce said aide.
Aide and Captain of the Guard flee after finding out sexy time with noble NOT allowed in New Tuluk (?!?)
Assassinated in the balcony of the Bard's Barrel cause (wait for it.... wait for it) She fled DOWN (curtain open).
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 02, 2012, 03:33:58 PM
Aide and Captain of the Guard flee after finding out sexy time with noble NOT allowed in New Tuluk (?!?)
This would go in my Most Depressing Doc Addition To The Game thread.
Quote from: Malken on March 02, 2012, 03:40:40 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 02, 2012, 03:33:58 PM
Aide and Captain of the Guard flee after finding out sexy time with noble NOT allowed in New Tuluk (?!?)
This would go in my Most Depressing Doc Addition To The Game thread.
Honestly I think the Northern Nobles get Shelved the Moment the Kank out of Caste thing is unfair. I think they should be able to get away with it until they're CAUGHT. It makes for more interesting plot.
Valla, ordered to go throw fire seeds at an army of gith by herself with her fairly brand new padawan by a not so bright Templar. Last words, "This is stupid shes going to get us killed". Last thing she saw...Samos's failed rescue. I should have fled but I wasnt getting hit then double tap and mantis head.
I dont mourn this char so much because she was awesome and fully branched and did all sorts of the things Im sure the staff would never let anyone ever do again. I mourn this pc to this day because I was surround by some truely awesome RPers and we had fucking blast playing together. You guys know who you are and get get perma free artwork from me ;)
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Quote from: ShaLeah on March 02, 2012, 03:33:58 PM
Aide and Captain of the Guard flee after finding out sexy time with noble NOT allowed in New Tuluk (?!?)
This would go in my Most Depressing Doc Addition To The Game thread.
Honestly I think the Northern Nobles get Shelved the Moment the Kank out of Caste thing is unfair. I think they should be able to get away with it until they're CAUGHT. It makes for more interesting plot.
I (as a player) had NO idea that it wasn't permitted, the noble did apparently cause of the docs I wasn't able to access.
It's just another opposite Allanak thing me thinks. Meh.
Northern nobles fucking commoners is like elves riding kanks. I don't see any problem with auto storage. Especially in Tuluk.
Because someone always knows in Tuluk.
I once had a character before I came on staff. Been around for a while, bascially had a portion of the world
on lockdown from outsiders. One day me and another where running around and I typed down instead of l down
and fell to his death because of a no climb room. I survived the fall, but something else was down there. :(
Quote from: Rahmi on March 04, 2012, 12:37:26 AM
I once had a character before I came on staff. Been around for a while, bascially had a portion of the world
on lockdown from outsiders. One day me and another where running around and I typed down instead of l down
and fell to his death because of a no climb room. I survived the fall, but something else was down there. :(
That is the single most dangerous typo that I sometimes still do. I really should be typing 'look' out, it's safer.
k templar instead of l templar can be pretty dangerous too.
I recommend aliasing 'k' to 'l' as per a staff suggestion.
I prefer aliasing "k" to "key" - much safer than even "l".
Kissing Templars? Haha
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Quote from: just_another_face on March 01, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Sometimes the most depressing deaths arent yours, but someone else's.
+1
+ another 1.
+ another 1 too.
emote sends comfort.
Been a rough week. The pain's finally fading for me, I think.
=( Why do interesting characters have to go out beyond the walls alone! Why can't they be so interesting that people go with them and like... They die to something better than NPC #0987413
Quote from: Jeshin on March 09, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
=( Why do interesting characters have to go out beyond the walls alone! Why can't they be so interesting that people go with them and like... They die to something better than NPC #0987413
I'm pretty sure NPC's are the reason behind 90% of PC deaths
Quote from: Iiyola on March 09, 2012, 01:18:22 AM
I'm pretty sure NPC's are the reason behind 90% of PC deaths
Challenge accepted.
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Quote from: Jeshin on March 09, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
=( Why do interesting characters have to go out beyond the walls alone! Why can't they be so interesting that people go with them and like... They die to something better than NPC #0987413
I'm pretty sure NPC's are the reason behind 90% of PC deaths
Pretty close, since the end of January 12.84% of deaths can be directly attributed to a PC getting the killing blow.
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Quote from: Jeshin on March 09, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
=( Why do interesting characters have to go out beyond the walls alone! Why can't they be so interesting that people go with them and like... They die to something better than NPC #0987413
I'm pretty sure NPC's are the reason behind 90% of PC deaths
Pretty close, since the end of January 12.84% of deaths can be directly attributed to a PC getting the killing blow.
By how many unique PCs? 8)
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 02, 2012, 03:33:58 PM
Depressing death:
Aide to Winrothol noble just after liberation.
Winrothol noble decides to seduce said aide.
Aide and Captain of the Guard flee after finding out sexy time with noble NOT allowed in New Tuluk (?!?)
Assassinated in the balcony of the Bard's Barrel cause (wait for it.... wait for it) She fled DOWN (curtain open).
Little too much coincidence on this to not be the same players, but I believe I was one of the attackers. I remember two people from the north who had left a House and we had a contract on. I went after the male while my friend (read Boss) went after the female. If memory serves, I held off the male while my friend attacked the female until she fled and fell off the balcony. We killed the male together and my friend climbed down to check below. He reported her dead, we collected our coins from our go between, and life was good.
This was close to ten years ago. I might even have the log somewhere. Have to check some time.
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Quote from: Jeshin on March 09, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
=( Why do interesting characters have to go out beyond the walls alone! Why can't they be so interesting that people go with them and like... They die to something better than NPC #0987413
I'm pretty sure NPC's are the reason behind 90% of PC deaths
Pretty close, since the end of January 12.84% of deaths can be directly attributed to a PC getting the killing blow.
By how many unique PCs? 8)
By far the majority are distinct killers. I don't want to make this into a competition, so I'm not going to give specific numbers, but of the PC deaths caused by PCs, 90% of them were from unique killers.
I'm pretty sure more than 12% of my characters have deaths have been due to PC's. You foul evil murderers....you know who you are. -.-
Quote from: Maso on March 09, 2012, 03:08:28 PM
I'm pretty sure more than 12% of my characters have deaths have been due to PC's. You foul evil murderers....you know who you are. -.-
When you get your account notes you can look and see. You are right, your deaths are more in the 30-40% range, although to be fair the sample size isn't that large.
Haha, whoot! Personalised statistics, awesome! It was meant light heartedly, by the by. Guess I'm just good at either avoiding NPC's or annoying PC's. Or a bit of both. ^.^
I've lost multiple PCs to the same killer.
Quote from: Yam on March 10, 2012, 02:42:46 PM
I've lost multiple PCs to the same killer.
I don't care whether it's IC; I destroy those kegs wherever I find them.
In my newbie days, I once used that (empty) keg as a water cask, and filled my skin from it. One day I drank directly from it...
... d'oh.
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Quote from: Jeshin on March 09, 2012, 12:34:25 AM
=( Why do interesting characters have to go out beyond the walls alone! Why can't they be so interesting that people go with them and like... They die to something better than NPC #0987413
I'm pretty sure NPC's are the reason behind 90% of PC deaths
Pretty close, since the end of January 12.84% of deaths can be directly attributed to a PC getting the killing blow.
By how many unique PCs? 8)
By far the majority are distinct killers. I don't want to make this into a competition, so I'm not going to give specific numbers, but of the PC deaths caused by PCs, 90% of them were from unique killers.
Party pooper. :P
Quote from: Delirium on March 10, 2012, 02:58:19 PM
In my newbie days, I once used that (empty) keg as a water cask, and filled my skin from it. One day I drank directly from it...
I wasn't a newbie when I did this. I was, however, within spamrun distance of an NPC who fixed me. ;)
Haven't they since remedied this happening by accident, more or less?
Quote from: BuNutzCola on March 11, 2012, 09:57:09 PM
Haven't they since remedied this happening by accident, more or less?
Protip: always smell your drink before you sip it.
Quote from: Iiyola on March 12, 2012, 03:58:09 AM
Quote from: BuNutzCola on March 11, 2012, 09:57:09 PM
Haven't they since remedied this happening by accident, more or less?
Protip: always smell your drink before you sip it.
And sip before you drink.
Yeah, but some kids have to learn by experience.
I made a fairly basic, mundane character that I didn't think was going to be anything special...and they weren't. They died with maybe 8-10 hours....but I was actually really upset and found that I had seriously got into this random little character in such a small amount of time. Totally bummed.
Omg. ARGHHHHHHHHHH.
I've finally managed to start enjoying my characters again...and now I can't fricking keep them alive.
Quote from: Maso on March 30, 2012, 07:00:10 PM
Omg. ARGHHHHHHHHHH.
I've finally managed to start enjoying my characters again...and now I can't fricking keep them alive.
Your pain.
I feel it.
Hng. I have a story in a year.
getting lost in combat against a mob and not seeing who attacked my PC
Quote from: Barsook on April 02, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
getting lost in combat against a mob and not seeing who attacked my PC
brief combat is useful!
Quote from: Nyr on April 03, 2012, 08:58:04 AM
Quote from: Barsook on April 02, 2012, 05:18:41 PM
getting lost in combat against a mob and not seeing who attacked my PC
brief combat is useful!
I know, but I was a newbie then.
Quote from: Kol on January 27, 2012, 08:42:13 AM
I remember Cur! That douche raided me so many times.....and then asked for protection money. A true Red Fang. You should post some of his raid logs if you ever get the chance.
i finally got around to getting my log off of my old hard drive and all of the raids are basically him threatening to cut people open and fuck them to death unless they gave him something. those scenes were punctuated by trying people to sniff a pair of sweat-stained panties he found, or instigating everyone possible. it's hard to track down memorable moments in the log since it's a 95mb word file and probably 99% of the text is various desert room descriptions.
Swapped words of wisdom with Cur, over a few quiet drinks. Was certainly an odd time. We were almost enemies, but mostly too lazy.
Quote from: Gunnerblaster on April 05, 2012, 05:47:39 AM
We were almost enemies, but mostly too lazy.
that's sad :(
Another Depressing death?
My special App Red Fang that was, to be honest, just meant to be end-game fodder for the closing of the Red Fangs.
I had fun howling and whooping my way towards a violently pathetic death, though.
Just depressing that it signified the close of the Red Fangs :(
RED FANGS!!!! TwT
Quote from: Khorm on January 25, 2012, 05:21:40 PM
cur was such a fun character to play, and a total shithead that deserved to die. i had never played a "raiding" sort of character before and i really tried hard to go out of my way to give people rp when they were more or less powerless to fight him. he definitely killed or otherwise totally fucked over his fair share of pcs but i'd like to hope that -i- didn't act like a dickhead in the process. anyway.. he more or less ran around and did whatever the fuck he wanted, which included a lot of fun play with characters that shouldn't have involved themselves with him or his tribe. it was a hell of a lot of fun. he got cocky in some dealings with kurac and stupidly went into a wagon to talk to agent whomever, then got magically dragged our of luir's and instantly knocked out by "a blue hazy cloud" or some shit. of course he died afterward. depressing because he was so goddamn fun to play, and because of the "what ifs"... like typing 'draw sword' probably would've saved his life.
Oh my god, I can finally post this since it's been long enough.
This scene was one of the most hilariously confusing things that ever happened to me on Arm, because Kurac didn't actually want Cur dead and we had no idea what the hell was going on with the magicking, and at first I think my PC assumed that the mage had been trying to kill the Agent or something, and I didn't even realize Cur was dead until we were trying to contact him like "what in the blue hell just HAPPENED?"
It was a cluster event of great magnitude.
Oh man. Every time I try to play a desert elf.
Quote from: Maso on March 06, 2012, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 05, 2012, 12:56:56 AM
Quote from: Mooney on March 05, 2012, 12:52:09 AM
Quote from: Kismetic on March 02, 2012, 01:24:30 AM
Quote from: just_another_face on March 01, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Sometimes the most depressing deaths arent yours, but someone else's.
+1
+ another 1.
+ another 1 too.
+ another 1 :(
+ 1 :'(
Quote from: Bast on April 09, 2012, 11:34:15 AM
Quote from: Maso on March 06, 2012, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: ShaLeah on March 05, 2012, 12:56:56 AM
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Quote from: Kismetic on March 02, 2012, 01:24:30 AM
Quote from: just_another_face on March 01, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Sometimes the most depressing deaths arent yours, but someone else's.
+1
+ another 1.
+ another 1 too.
+ another 1 :(
+ 1 :'(
+1... *comfort*
Too many depressing deaths just get too ... depressing. :(
Quote from: solera on April 18, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
Too many depressing deaths just get too ... depressing. :(
Yup.
It's been more than a year... maybe two?
I was the thrall of a sorcerer, roleplaying slowly coming under his influence. Then after trying to influence him into fucking over some enemies I had made he made me duel one of them, with predictable results :)
It's funny because looking back I can still remember the moment the sorcerer "figured out" he wasn't the only one pulling strings. Probably the best roleplaying experience I've had on Arm, and I've had a lot of good ones.
This guy really played his sorcerer well, and many months later I'd hear of his demise through other characters. I'm sure he had a ball.
Quote from: janeshephard on May 23, 2012, 03:05:58 PM
It's funny because looking back I can still remember the moment the sorcerer "figured out" he wasn't the only one pulling strings. Probably the best roleplaying experience I've had on Arm, and I've had a lot of good ones.
This doesn't sound like a depressing death to me, it sounds like you had a great time RPing. :)
That was an awesome scene. Not sure if I sent you kudos, but it was blood-pumping. I wonder if it has too much magick for me to submit the log?
My PC became said sorcerer's chewtoy afterwards and had a depressing death.
Quote from: WWYD on May 23, 2012, 09:44:50 PM
That was an awesome scene. Not sure if I sent you kudos, but it was blood-pumping. I wonder if it has too much magick for me to submit the log?
My PC became said sorcerer's chewtoy afterwards and had a depressing death.
I think I got kudos months later from the player behind the sorcerer.
Quote from: Taven
This doesn't sound like a depressing death to me, it sounds like you had a great time RPing.
The depressing part is never being able to go back to RP with that character. It was a magical moment indeed :D
Agreed that sounds like fun...I wonder where all the sorcerers are hiding these days. I love getting messed with by defilers. ;D
Quote from: janeshephard on May 23, 2012, 11:27:20 PM
The depressing part is never being able to go back to RP with that character. It was a magical moment indeed :D
Yuh. I feel that. The more fun the character the more depressing the death. I think I could literally have played my favourite character until she died of old age - and then I still would have been bummed about her death.
Quote from: Bast on May 23, 2012, 11:31:05 PM
I wonder where all the sorcerers are hiding these days.
As Krathis with mad combat skillz. (Karma
5 4+3) [Edit: thanks for the correction, Is Friday.]
Krathis are 4 karma.
Very codedly powerful Rukkian with an interesting not so powerful personality (meaning passive... not underdeveloped -- I worked hard on it) fell down a hole, and got buttraped by a gith.
Not really, that would have made the death awesome. It just beat him to death. I usually brush deaths off, but this one I just sorta stared at the screen for a while.
Made a silt-sailor rebound character after that and had a hell of a short-lived time.
That's pretty IC secret magick info
Quote from: WWYD on May 23, 2012, 09:44:50 PM
I wonder if it has too much magick for me to submit the log?
I saw your question on ATS, and while it's between you and the staff to decide, I do feel there was a lot of magick involved. Just wanted to post that here. My post wasn't meant to break up a can of secret.
(And you too can be involved with a sorcerer if you roll a character and put in the playtime for it. Just roll a dwarf with a focus of wanting to serve a sorcerer :)
Quote from: Yam on May 25, 2012, 01:29:06 AM
That's pretty IC secret magick info
Not sure who you're responding to, so I got paranoid and removed a single word.
Probably something you would only be able to extract if you knew about it, but meh. Rather safe than sorry.
I removed a separate post referring to a specific magicky thing. Unless it was something you posted...in which case, I didn't see it as that bad.
I just think people really need to stop dying >.> hmm, this is probably more of a random thought.
I so want to post. How long do I have to wait?I know, this that, and the feckin' other. But feck, that should not have happened. Read my bio then delete me.
Quote from: DesertWind on May 26, 2012, 11:23:22 PM
I so want to post. How long do I have to wait?I know, this that, and the feckin' other. But feck, that should not have happened. Read my bio then delete me.
If it's about something IC, generally we are supposed to wait a real life year. Longer if some of the characters still live after that year.
The death of this stump was awesome, so I removed this post also.
Damn, that was like ten years ago. Am I that old?
l n
North of here is a forum.
[Near]
Is here, trolling.
Quote from: Kismetic on May 27, 2012, 01:55:03 AM
l n
North of here is a forum.
[Near]
Is here, trolling.
There is no way anyone can be mad for 10 years plus about a character :)
Duh, I'm not mad about that death. That dick covered elf gicker did real good. If you don't understand, don't respond.
Quote from: DesertWind on May 27, 2012, 02:05:15 AM
Duh, I'm not mad about that death. That dick covered elf gicker did real good. If you don't understand, don't respond.
Thanks for the idea of my new app.
(Sorry moderators I had to troll back)
Good luck. That guy was awesome.
Hmmm. A twelve-foot tall, dick-covered man. . .
o shit (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc)
Dick tattoed as I recall. Scariest thing I ever saw. They were carved in. And real well played.
As my final retaliation, before I am deleted or kill all gickers. This is me, the one with hat:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=1yWeMIALolY
Ps Looks like a relative too, Oh no
/em trys to calm down
Going aggro on a magicker who has the jump on you is stupid, anyway. The only way to survive that scenario is to drop all your loot and ask what it will take for him or her to let you leave with your brains intact.
I too once played a dick covered elf. He died to mantis because I accidentally had a torch out instead of a weapon.
Oops.
What was up with that tribe and dicks ???
Red Fangs was originally a typo?
Quote from: musashi on May 27, 2012, 03:28:15 AM
What was up with that tribe and dicks ???
Their players hadn't seen enough vulvas in RL to properly RP drawing one.
*rimshot*
I shouldn't be speaking of this here. Deleted.
Calm the fuck down yo please
No no. Let him keep going ;D it's like a spam bot with arm specific script generation.
I'm going to make a wild half-giant tribe that only use clubs shaped like dicks. Are ritualistically tattooed with dicks, and who's entire diet is based around eating sausage... An RP requirement of said tribe is you must carry all conversations out in a highly ritualized form using only filthy limericks.
(http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Popcorn-09-Psych.gif)
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on May 27, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
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This guy is great. I'd kill him if I was alive. It's a good reply, thanks.
Quote from: Yam on May 27, 2012, 03:46:31 AM
Calm the fuck down yo
I just shot that cat. Stupid thing was up in my garbage.
Please do not derail this thread. Depressing deaths only, please, thanks.
I'm done then. I actually missed my shot on that cat :o /out
I... Don't even know what the fuck to say to that.
Depressing death:
Traveled across the Known to bury the body of a fallen comrade in his homeland. Died about an our after roleplaying a personally touching burial. About 15 minutes before he died, he had picked up a little toy soldier to give to his barely a year-old son. During his death, he lived long enough between that life/death phase to emote/think about his family, etc.
It was very emotional for me but I'm glad it wasn't an insta-death like many tend to be. Gave me a quick minute to bring it to a startling, but conclusive, end.
Depressing Death = Sending in report about something IG that wasn't working properly. It gets fixed (and then some). Then you die to the new changes.
*facepalm*
My most depressing Armageddon death was also very Zalanthan in nature, so I kind of look at it fondly. Not sure if it's been a year, but I'll be vague just in case.
I found someone in trouble where I could have killed them/left them to die without danger to myself. I helped them instead and made sure they were not going to die. They killed me and took my stuff.
Sort of awesome really, even if I really liked that char.
Quote from: Yam on May 27, 2012, 03:46:31 AM
Calm the fuck down yo
It's better to report him than telling him that. And sorry if this too late. I did see the post when it was posted but I didn't want to say anything because it will start the troll up and make a mess.
Anyways, mine is blacking out from a contact and getting my stuff stolen in Tuluk. After my PC woke up, they asked a person who was with me that time what happened. They told my PC that a thief from Under Tuluk stole my items and told me that he can take me down there to fight back for my items. So, I followed them down there. Fought the thief and lost on a maybe a one to two day warrior.
Storage
edit: I'm over it.
All the one's I've caused. They were much better characters than mine.
Sparring incidents on an 8 month old character suck. :c
Quote from: BadSkeelz on May 31, 2012, 02:56:09 PM
All the one's I've caused. They were much better characters than mine.
You mention killing people so often on the GDB that one could get the impression you're enjoying it!
Killing real players player characters in this game is thrilling. Wish I could get the chance to do it more than once every couple years.
Edit: That could have come out a bit awkwardly.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on May 31, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Killing real players player characters in this game is thrilling. Wish I could get the chance to do it more than once every couple years.
Edit: That could have come out a bit awkwardly.
It's more thrilling when they started it. You can wash your hands of PKers guilt, in some of those cases.
The guilt makes it even better.
You guys feel guilty? I mean, I'm averaging 1 PK every .5 years. In my mind, that's a low amount. But guilt? Oh, please.
Yes, that's why we play perma-death. To start our own Smurf village. ;)
I'd like to PK someone...like...just once.
Quote from: Kismetic on May 31, 2012, 04:41:40 PM
You guys feel guilty? I mean, I'm averaging 1 PK every .5 years. In my mind, that's a low amount. But guilt? Oh, please.
Yes, that's why we play perma-death. To start our own Smurf village. ;)
Maybe my memory is skewed, but on one PC my dude killed about 13-20 over a period of 3 RL months. I don't PK all that much, though. Most of my PCs never do. They're just assholes.
Quote from: Is Friday on May 31, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Kismetic on May 31, 2012, 04:41:40 PM
You guys feel guilty? I mean, I'm averaging 1 PK every .5 years. In my mind, that's a low amount. But guilt? Oh, please.
Yes, that's why we play perma-death. To start our own Smurf village. ;)
Maybe my memory is skewed, but on one PC my dude killed about 13-20 over a period of 3 RL months. I don't PK all that much, though. Most of my PCs never do. They're just assholes.
Yes, do it. I endorse this. :)
Quote from: Maso on May 31, 2012, 09:40:59 PM
I'd like to PK someone...like...just once.
App for the arena. Pick giant, mul, elf, or roll a human who can *ahem* "talk" their way to a victory.
:D
There are opportunities during arena events to train, and *plan* things. I feel that's what I like most about the one I participated in.
Quote from: Kismetic on May 31, 2012, 11:07:39 PM
Quote from: Is Friday on May 31, 2012, 09:47:33 PM
Quote from: Kismetic on May 31, 2012, 04:41:40 PM
You guys feel guilty? I mean, I'm averaging 1 PK every .5 years. In my mind, that's a low amount. But guilt? Oh, please.
Yes, that's why we play perma-death. To start our own Smurf village. ;)
Maybe my memory is skewed, but on one PC my dude killed about 13-20 over a period of 3 RL months. I don't PK all that much, though. Most of my PCs never do. They're just assholes.
Yes, do it. I endorse this. :)
I had someone in game request my pc (at the time) be the one to take their life. When I arrived they knelt and offerer their neck, saying it was an honor to die at my pc's hands. Does this count as a Pk I wonder?
I think so. Probably counts as a depressing death, too, if their RP forced them into suicide.
It's just my shitty opinion that PK should happen as much as mudsex. Wishful thinking.
Quote from: Kismetic on June 01, 2012, 10:29:55 AM
I think so. Probably counts as a depressing death, too, if their RP forced them into suicide.
It's just my shitty opinion that PK should happen as much as mudsex. Wishful thinking.
We need a dedicated raiding clan that isn't iso
Start one.
what do you mean by a non iso. As in, not limited to certain turf? One that actually lives in the city? What?
Pretty sure they mean one that isn't stuck to a specific area and that roams abroad. You seen with a certain d-elf clan for a long time before the change-over.
Quote from: Dakota on June 01, 2012, 07:45:58 PM
We need a dedicated raiding clan that isn't iso
I'd give that clan a week, at best...
Quote from: Malken on June 02, 2012, 12:34:27 AM
Quote from: Dakota on June 01, 2012, 07:45:58 PM
We need a dedicated raiding clan that isn't iso
I'd give that clan a week, at best...
Basically. You would be asking the entire player base to basically not take action against the group under the pretense that they were one of many virtual raiding groups picking off random unimportant nobodies.
Expect they wouldn't be picking off random nobodies. They would be picking off PC's who are all connected to someone somehow.
And when you do that, you get dog piled.
Quote from: musashi on June 02, 2012, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: Malken on June 02, 2012, 12:34:27 AM
Quote from: Dakota on June 01, 2012, 07:45:58 PM
We need a dedicated raiding clan that isn't iso
I'd give that clan a week, at best...
Basically. You would be asking the entire player base to basically not take action against the group under the pretense that they were one of many virtual raiding groups picking off random unimportant nobodies.
Expect they wouldn't be picking off random nobodies. They would be picking off PC's who are all connected to someone somehow.
And when you do that, you get dog piled.
Alternatively, people in positions of power could actually treat their underlings like the unimportant, expendable meatbags they're supposed to be, instead of obsessing over them and coddling them like precious little snowflakes.
THANK YOU, SYNTHESIS.
It's kind of a pity I can't fit that into my signature.
Hah Synth - I have an indie clan written up for my next run that heavily emphasizes such a meatbag treatment idea.
...
If only I had the time, and my current PC would just die.
Quote from: Synthesis on June 02, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
Alternatively, people in positions of power could actually treat their underlings like the unimportant, expendable meatbags they're supposed to be, instead of obsessing over them and coddling them like precious little snowflakes.
Indeed. When a meatbag dies, that's a bad meatbag. After all, it died on you. What use is a meatbag when it's dead? Stupid meatbag, I'm going to have to find a way to hire better meatbags.
Oh, we know who killed the meatbag? Send them word that I'm hiring a replacement.
Yeah, you're basically asking players to ... not act like players. :-\
I accept responsibility in helping derail this thread, but maybe we can make another one for this topic, or something.
D'oh
Quote from: Synthesis on June 02, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
Alternatively, people in positions of power could actually treat their underlings like the unimportant, expendable meatbags they're supposed to be, instead of obsessing over them and coddling them like precious little snowflakes.
That isn't going to happen, simply because steadily active, loyal and reasonably long lived underlings are rare, but are required to get most anything done. A flood of short lived meatbags won't typically get the clan anywhere.
I wouldn't want to play in a clan where my longevity, loyalty and constant contribution to moving clan plots along isn't appreciated.
PC's are, much more often than not, beautiful unique snowflakes. That's what most people like to play. That's why deaths are depressing in the first place.
Quote from: musashi on June 03, 2012, 05:27:07 AM
PC's are, much more often than not, beautiful unique snowflakes. That's what most people like to play. That's why deaths are depressing in the first place.
the wiry, shaved-headed man says: "You are not your how good you are with your broadsword. You're not how much black you have in Nenyuk. You're not the mount you ride. You're not the contents of your backpack. You're not your krathdamn silk dress that you sew with your dainty little fingers between handjobs. You're the all-singing, all-dancing kankshit of the known."
Quote from: Akaramu on June 03, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
I wouldn't want to play in a clan where my longevity, loyalty and constant contribution to moving clan plots along isn't appreciated.
They should be appreciated, but not to extent where your boss mobilizes all the resources of his organization to start a war on someone who took your pack.
Whatever happened to OOCly appreciating your underlings while ICly giving them a single nod at best in recognition for their work, then a wave of the hand to shoo them away? I mean, that makes me feel good as an underling, and I've only ever been underlings.
Depends on who you are working for.
Self Centered (good or evil) Would give two shits about an underling. Hence, being self centered.
But then ya got your manipulative ones, good and evil, whom give ya attention, so that way you'll do dumb shit for them. A good ego rubbing and a few thank yous, next thing ya know, your trying to kill a bahamet with your bare hands.
Quote from: spicemustflow on June 03, 2012, 06:02:58 AM
Quote from: Akaramu on June 03, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
I wouldn't want to play in a clan where my longevity, loyalty and constant contribution to moving clan plots along isn't appreciated.
They should be appreciated, but not to extent where your boss mobilizes all the resources of his organization to start a war on someone who took your pack.
Never seen this happen. Pretty sure it's rare enough not to be an issue.
Quote from: Akaramu on June 03, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
Quote from: spicemustflow on June 03, 2012, 06:02:58 AM
Quote from: Akaramu on June 03, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
I wouldn't want to play in a clan where my longevity, loyalty and constant contribution to moving clan plots along isn't appreciated.
They should be appreciated, but not to extent where your boss mobilizes all the resources of his organization to start a war on someone who took your pack.
Never seen this happen. Pretty sure it's rare enough not to be an issue.
It doesn't happen often but I have seen it happen a few times. House Peon gets fucked with by somebody, the leader character brings all their house backing to bear on fucking them up. It's awfully unrealistic and silly when it happens.
Quote from: A Large Bag on June 03, 2012, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: Akaramu on June 03, 2012, 02:38:34 PM
Quote from: spicemustflow on June 03, 2012, 06:02:58 AM
Quote from: Akaramu on June 03, 2012, 05:05:28 AM
I wouldn't want to play in a clan where my longevity, loyalty and constant contribution to moving clan plots along isn't appreciated.
They should be appreciated, but not to extent where your boss mobilizes all the resources of his organization to start a war on someone who took your pack.
Never seen this happen. Pretty sure it's rare enough not to be an issue.
It doesn't happen often but I have seen it happen a few times. House Peon gets fucked with by somebody, the leader character brings all their house backing to bear on fucking them up. It's awfully unrealistic and silly when it happens.
This happened to me and I've only played for about two months. It -is- silly.
I know! I stole someone's backpack one time and got shanked later on by House Backpackalarrius wtf yo?! So silly!! ;D
...when did this turn into 'I bit into an animal way bigger than me and it bit me back and it should have ignored me' thread?
Quote from: Rhyden on June 03, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
I know! I stole someone's backpack one time and got shanked later on by House Backpackalarrius wtf yo?! So silly!! ;D
I don't think a helper being sarcastic is being very helpful, btw.
Yeah, that's not what anyone is talking about here. Stealing, is penalized by death with some organizations. I'm talking about:
Peon: This guy was mean to me and talked shit!
Leader: Really?
*Orders his people to kill them if they catch them. Pays for a hit on the guy to have them killed etc.*
Most clans would not realistically condone the use of resources to kill a guy who talked shit to one of their recruits.
Quote from: Synthesis on June 02, 2012, 11:21:13 PM
Quote from: musashi on June 02, 2012, 10:41:40 PM
Quote from: Malken on June 02, 2012, 12:34:27 AM
Quote from: Dakota on June 01, 2012, 07:45:58 PM
We need a dedicated raiding clan that isn't iso
I'd give that clan a week, at best...
Basically. You would be asking the entire player base to basically not take action against the group under the pretense that they were one of many virtual raiding groups picking off random unimportant nobodies.
Expect they wouldn't be picking off random nobodies. They would be picking off PC's who are all connected to someone somehow.
And when you do that, you get dog piled.
Alternatively, people in positions of power could actually treat their underlings like the unimportant, expendable meatbags they're supposed to be, instead of obsessing over them and coddling them like precious little snowflakes.
Alternatively, people who perceive this as an issue could actually -become- leaders of House Snowflake and show all the "coddling" leaders how expendable snowflakes really are. :-*
Quote from: A Large Bag on June 03, 2012, 02:54:01 PM
Quote from: Rhyden on June 03, 2012, 02:49:51 PM
I know! I stole someone's backpack one time and got shanked later on by House Backpackalarrius wtf yo?! So silly!! ;D
I don't think a helper being sarcastic is being very helpful, btw.
Yeah, that's not what anyone is talking about here. Stealing, is penalized by death with some organizations. I'm talking about:
Peon: This guy was mean to me and talked shit!
Leader: Really?
*Orders his people to kill them if they catch them. Pays for a hit on the guy to have them killed etc.*
I know, but I'm an extremely sarcastic and facetious person. Sorry! :)
My point is yes, if you take one step out of line, House A can and may come down on you and squish you like the bug you are.
In this thread so far, I've seen people complaining that clans come down waaaaaaaaaay too hard on folks for issues like this, and I've seen people complaining that clans coddle their minions and everyone else with flowers and daisies.
It's the standard GDB Goldilocks syndrome. You know, my porridge is too hot! Waaaaah! My porridge is too cold! Waaaah! You can't please everyone. You surely can complain on the GDB about issues like this but it won't do anyone a lick of good.
My point is, go in game and fix the problem in game, instead of wasting your time and energy complaining about it on the GDB! :)
Bah, now I've had to think about it and help derail, but I just wanted to insure this is understood.
Minions are, indeed, just that...minions. Yes, overlord A can afford to lose minion A's backpack.
However, you also have to realize that this is one of his izdari pieces. Messing with that thing messes with his plan, potentially. Messing with minion A shows a willingness to mess with House A, as well. Messing with minion A can affect the image of House A. There are a multitude of facets further than 'I just stole a pack', all of which are more important to overlord A than the well-being of the minion itself. Among them? If minion A starts telling overlord A that this person is causing trouble for those he uses to carry out his plans, then the potential to have his plans fucked up grow in the presence of said non-minion. Said overlord will -probably- be irritated with said non-minion as a result...and -when is it ever a good idea to cause irritation to an overlord-?
One of the first things in this game I was told as a noob was 'Don't mess with people who are employed with nobles or templars unless you can deal with a shit storm.' That's how it is. That's how it's always been. And yes, that's how it should be.
^+1
Just because it looks like they're fucking you over because the noble is fucking the underling doesn't mean that that's the real reason.
As I mentioned in another thread, the relative power of noble houses very much revolves around status, or "face." Making a noble or merchant house look bad is not separate from preventing their success. Quite the opposite, making a house look bad has everything to do with their success.
Whether a specific leader chooses to solve the problem by taking care of the outsider, or by removing the employee who is part of the problem, is another question. If an employee makes the house look incompetent, he or she might be removed...possibly permanently, depending on the temperaments of the people involved.
Keep this in mind the next time you have a pack stolen. Sloppy employees might not get fired, especially if it is considered that they might know a few things they should not: things like the layout of defenses of a house, or the identity of an informant, could easily be worth a no-cost killing.
"What happened to Amos?"
"Hunting accident."
Better to not lose a pack...and sometimes better to keep your mouth shut so you look more competent.
And it is usually better to use your own resources to take care of the problem before you report it to your employer. "Marky Sharp stole my pack. It has been handled."
Marky Sharp got out of jail.
Marky Sharp fell down a well.
Poor, poor Marky Sharp.
^ +1 This is more along the lines of my way of thinking about it. By running to your employer about it, you should consider that the employer might consider it a failing on your part and punish you over it rather than they will go get that big meanie for me.
Quote from: Rhyden on June 03, 2012, 02:54:28 PM
Alternatively, people who perceive this as an issue could actually -become- leaders of House Snowflake and show all the "coddling" leaders how expendable snowflakes really are. :-*
I agree that we should be the change we want to see, and I'm working at it. I played for 8 hours yesterday, more than I've played in one sitting in probably a year. This stuff takes time if you aren't going the special-app route.
But I would add that this change doesn't have to happen as a leader. I think what people are complaining about can be improved upon from all sides, antagonist, underling, and leader too of course.
Just my two cents here, and I'm done "bitching on the GDB" for today.
Should be new thread as it's currently a massive derail.
It's also that current game commentary that is best handled tactfully in its own topic, dealt with ICly, or with the request tool. Fuck.
Quote from: Yam on June 03, 2012, 04:17:52 PM
Should be new thread as it's currently a massive derail.
+1
It's such a sad complicated issue. On one hand, it's a good idea not to involve the "heavy guns" like employers and nobles into your little problems. On another hand ... nobles are very often bored out of their minds and would appreciate a little extra content. I've had my employers pissed off to shits when at some point my character starts blabbering at all kinds of conflict and plots that he's been into and finished, and they were not part of.
On another hand. Before RF became the power house with their own camp. It always amused me how raiding some salarri brought every mundane and non mundane, human and non human, legal and non legal clan on me.
Admittedly, it was also very fun.
Musashi made one.
Are clans too nice to their minions? Derail from Depressing Death (http://www.zalanthas.org/gdb/index.php/topic,43542.msg684833.html#msg684833)
We can now resume discussion of depressing deaths.
When I was still pretty new to the game I decided to make a warrior thug character. I wanted to mug people, so I got clubs to knock them out, and ended up joining on with the Guild somehow(as a southsider too). So I convinced this one character who was obviously new to the game that I had a lucrative business proposition for them...they just had to follow me to this conveniently un-crimcoded place called the 'Rinth. In which I attacked said newbie and my warrior brought them to a withheld mercy blow in a few combat rounds.
My character is all badass picking through his stuff like he doesn't care, when an elf happens along and steals the coins right out of his hands. All the while I'm talking to this person about how I was affiliated with the guild so there'd be trouble, then suddenly -ding- poor noobie dies. It was extremely out of the blue for me because I though I'd just knocked the poor guy out with my clubs.
Then I felt guilty for picking on someone who was newbish to the game for like, an entire year and didn't kill anyone(outright) for a long time. I still get depressed when I think back that I didn't get any loot, and maybe caused some poor nub to either leave the game or never trust anyone again.
My first gemmer was in the Copper Wars. That was pretty awesome. He got gemmed, went to the temple, and started looking around. He did not even spend an hour in the temple before a templar showed up and said, "you have just volunteered."
He had many adventures.
In one adventure, he wandered away from the camp (stupid breed) and got lost for days in a storm. He walked into a gith camp, and managed to flee. He managed to kill a snake (barely) with a dagger, and wandered all the way to Luir's on foot.
On another adventure, he was targeted for death. It was a very brief adventure. Beep!
That was a depressing death.
I had a pretty awesome (I thought so anyway) halfbreed warrior. She was starting to get pretty ugly in combat. Entered some contast at a festival in Tuluk and won a horse. A couple of days later, my internet connection dropped out while I was on the north road, near the span. I log back in at -1- hitpoint, fighting a carru. I immediately reacted, and typed flee, and then south, to try and get away from it. Unfortunately my character fled UP a cliff side, then south off of it. Splat. My wife still mocks me for this, 3 years later, because that day she'd told me not to play (because she wanted attention).
First death is very depressing indeed!
Quote from: hatchets on June 06, 2012, 04:13:02 PM
First death is very depressing indeed!
Reroll and welcome to Arma.
:'( The one I had today because I could have avoided it and knew better and died before similar many times. It's all about knowing I could have chosen different.
I have so many I've stopped counting. I'm such an idiot sometimes when I get bored, which is a lot......and its my fault there to...which adds to the depression.......*sooooob* *sniffle*
Quote from: janeshephard on June 06, 2012, 04:18:07 PM
Quote from: hatchets on June 06, 2012, 04:13:02 PM
First death is very depressing indeed!
Reroll and welcome to Arma.
Not even sure what to play now lol, least it makes writing the end of a character report easy, (He died the end.) Was just in the middle of putting one together for him, bah! time to think up a new idea, still depressing just started to like that one
On one of my first characters (I think a year ago, if not he didn't last long anyways) I was this elf in the 'rinth. I'd just fought someone and got them under my control, I decided to drag them somwhere to loot them. I looked at the person and saw that she still was holding weapons, so I think "Hmmm, I should disarm them".
>disarm
What I hadn't realized is that command initiates combat, and the person died. That was depressing. :-[
Sometimes, it's depressing when you don't die along with people and your character gets to deal with being forever alone all of a sudden, except not really. Still, it's depressing.
Quote from: Eriad on June 06, 2012, 04:59:48 PM
On one of my first characters (I think a year ago, if not he didn't last long anyways) I was this elf in the 'rinth. I'd just fought someone and got them under my control, I decided to drag them somwhere to loot them. I looked at the person and saw that she still was holding weapons, so I think "Hmmm, I should disarm them".
>disarm
What I hadn't realized is that command initiates combat, and the person died. That was depressing. :-[
That actually is really depression.
Quote from: Feco on June 06, 2012, 05:47:36 PM
Quote from: Eriad on June 06, 2012, 04:59:48 PM
On one of my first characters (I think a year ago, if not he didn't last long anyways) I was this elf in the 'rinth. I'd just fought someone and got them under my control, I decided to drag them somwhere to loot them. I looked at the person and saw that she still was holding weapons, so I think "Hmmm, I should disarm them".
>disarm
What I hadn't realized is that command initiates combat, and the person died. That was depressing. :-[
That actually is really depression.
Aww shucks. If you have someone subdued or unconscious...can you just 'steal' the weapons out of their hands?
If someone is unconscious they drop the items in their hands.
If you want get take someone weapons away when they're subdued try roleplaying it out, as I don't believe there's another way, other than disarm, of course..
Steal should probably work.
Quote from: Yam on June 08, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Steal should probably work.
Is subdue code like unconscious code? Where you can't fail a steal attempt? If so, then yeah, probably.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on June 08, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: Yam on June 08, 2012, 10:52:25 AM
Steal should probably work.
Is subdue code like unconscious code? Where you can't fail a steal attempt? If so, then yeah, probably.
Yes, I think so.
I'm glad we're all so sure :P
Steal auto-works on unconscious, however it can still initiate criminal code.
But what about subdued people?
And what exactly are the differences between steal incriminating on unconscious/conscious people? I could swear I've removed things from someone who was unconscious with the militia sitting there staring at me. In a highly vnpc populated room, in broad daylight.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on June 08, 2012, 11:31:23 AM
But what about subdued people?
And what exactly are the differences between steal incriminating on unconscious/conscious people? I could swear I've removed things from someone who was unconscious with the militia sitting there staring at me. In a highly vnpc populated room, in broad daylight.
Stealing from someone who is paralyzed or knocked out is very easy to do, but there is still a chance that guards/populous will notice and incriminate you for it. It's slim, but it's still a chance. Stealing from someone who is just 'asleep' is easy, but not nearly as easy as someone who can't resist. Having 'nosave steal' on makes it always succeed and no chance of any incrimination.
Quote from: Morgenes on June 08, 2012, 11:29:05 AM
Steal auto-works on unconscious, however it can still initiate criminal code.
Don't you always get the echo about creeping up on your target? That's what always confused me. I didn't know if it was OK to steal from someone I knocked out, or not.
Presumably it's not okay with them, but what are they going to do about it?
There is some stealth involved. You are still trying to be furtive about it. If a proper authority notices, you can be incriminated, but that is a pretty slim chance.
When you don't even see what kills you, that has always put me in the dumps. :(
Quote from: titansfan on June 10, 2012, 12:03:23 AM
When you don't even see what kills you, that has always put me in the dumps. :(
That was one my favorite deaths. Just lights off.
Second character, just getting while some interesting plots and connections are forming, and the game is starting to make sense to me. I got outside like a newb, having no idea wtf I'm doing and SANDSTORM. Something searches for tracks. Something bites you. Dead.
- I screamed at my laptop.
Welcome to Armageddon! ;D
Thanks for sending the welcomeraptor. :P
Quote from: greasygemo on June 16, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
Second character, just getting while some interesting plots and connections are forming, and the game is starting to make sense to me. I got outside like a newb, having no idea wtf I'm doing and SANDSTORM. Something searches for tracks. Something bites you. Dead.
- I screamed at my laptop.
Man, I wish I had balls like that when I was new. I never left the gates on my own as a newbie, and didn't play a ranger until like my 10th character.
Quote from: hyzhenhok on June 16, 2012, 02:51:04 PM
Quote from: greasygemo on June 16, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
Second character, just getting while some interesting plots and connections are forming, and the game is starting to make sense to me. I got outside like a newb, having no idea wtf I'm doing and SANDSTORM. Something searches for tracks. Something bites you. Dead.
- I screamed at my laptop.
Man, I wish I had balls like that when I was new. I never left the gates on my own as a newbie, and didn't play a ranger until like my 10th character.
Same, but I'm still chicken.
My first PC died to a pot-bellied gurth wandering around outside Tuluk. I have serious issues with staying inside the gates, I don't like it!
That's nothing, my first character wandered a bit, tried to backstab an NPC, who flee'd (didn't know about subdue) And then the next 20 mins went down like this..
Hide
A guard walks through
N
Hide
A guard walks through
W
A gaurd subues you!
Kill guard
Stab, Stab
Flee
W,N,W,E,W,S,E,S,N,E,E,E,S,W,W,W,S,N,E,W,S,E
A gaurd subues you!
Kill guard
Stab, Stab
Flee
W,N,W,E,W,S,E,S,N,E,E,E,S,W,W,W,S,N,E,W,S,E
(repeat 5 times until exit gate found)
Outside Gates
Sandstorm
W,N,W,E,W,S,E,S,N,E,E,E,S,W,W,W,S,N,E,W,S,E
Think "Where the hell is Luirs Gate or whatever??"
You are starving, You are Dehydrated
You Die
Hahahahahaha, I'm amazing. And soooo ashamed.
There's nothing to be ashamed of in there at all. I'm quite impressed you survived the Soldier NPC's.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on June 17, 2012, 09:56:56 AM
There's nothing to be ashamed of in there at all. I'm quite impressed you survived the Soldier NPC's.
You know, in hindsight, I will always wonder what my first characters stats were. I never knew about the score command...
*palms face, sighs with regret*
Quote from: greasygemo on June 17, 2012, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on June 17, 2012, 09:56:56 AM
There's nothing to be ashamed of in there at all. I'm quite impressed you survived the Soldier NPC's.
You know, in hindsight, I will always wonder what my first characters stats were. I never knew about the score command...
*palms face, sighs with regret*
I never knew about the skill command for like five characters.
Quote from: greasygemo on June 17, 2012, 12:25:32 PM
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on June 17, 2012, 09:56:56 AM
There's nothing to be ashamed of in there at all. I'm quite impressed you survived the Soldier NPC's.
You know, in hindsight, I will always wonder what my first characters stats were. I never knew about the score command...
*palms face, sighs with regret*
You probably rolled all AI's. :p
Quote from: Maso on June 17, 2012, 01:17:11 PM
You probably rolled all AI's. :p
I'm going to believe I didn't to ease the sadness, lol
Dying of random, impersonal poisoning that poisoners do in order to skill up. :-X I should have just logged out when I had the chance, but I thought I could handle it. I really did.
You poisoned yourself? Should've found some cures before trying.
Logging out doesn't stop you from being poisoned, by the way. Not even positive you can log out while poisoned. I've never tried. But I can definitely tell you that trying to do so is a pretty big no-no.
Well that answers some questions.
As for depressing death: Any day now...
You can't log out while poisoned...not exactly...if you try the game will prompt you, something like, This will cause DEATH...type quite die to do so anyway...or at least the last time I tried...which was many years ago.
You might be able to with poisons that don't kill though.
Quote from: RogueGunslinger on June 17, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
You poisoned yourself? Should've found some cures before trying.
Logging out doesn't stop you from being poisoned, by the way. Not even positive you can log out while poisoned. I've never tried. But I can definitely tell you that trying to do so is a pretty big no-no.
Yeah, this was a situation in which I knew there was no way I'd be able to find cures, unfortunately.
Didn't know about the no log out thing though.
Forgetting the #1 rule of PK, I stopped to emote for a group of people, and someone spam-charged me while I was typing out the emote about how I was sprinting by at a fair distance from the group.
I've never even had a chance to be Pk'd. Dammit... why did I start loving this game during mechanical failure era..... So not fair. I wish I could just fix it. Sigh.
I logged out no problem under the influence of a slow poison. Next log in of course , I continued on my slow death, but I deliberately chose a time when my clannies could be around to help or watch.
Quote from: Synthesis on June 18, 2012, 08:05:22 PM
Forgetting the #1 rule of PK, I stopped to emote for a group of people, and someone spam-charged me while I was typing out the emote about how I was sprinting by at a fair distance from the group.
I tried to emote how I WOULD start to attack this person, but they kept on spam fleeing. Eventually i just thought: fuck it. And spam attacked them.
I spam-charged a staff animation once. Whoops.
In order to avoid a depressing death, since now I'm going to emote only after I bring them to negative hit points first. Or after I spam flee to the other side of the world.
I played the last PC member of a friggin' awesome clan that's now closed and may or may not have been ICly obliterated.
I died to dehydration, because I'd gone on a trading trip to buy water after IC circumstances forced my character to abstain from water for LIKE A REALLY LONG TIME.
> arrive in civilisation with oodles of stuff to sell! woohoo! gonna stock up on WATER!
> game reboots.
> every NPC merchant in town says to you, "I'm sorry, but I don't have enough money to buy ANYTHING."
> get coins pack
> you have 6 coins shy of delicious water.
> you think, "screw it, i'll just con or mug somebody or something."
> who
> it's offpeak. there's like 4 other people in the world. you're fucked.
> you think, "it's okay, i'll just journey to <wilderness source of water>! it's a long journey, but i can make it!"
> you run out of stamina within mere rooms of delicious water.
> you think, "that's okay, i'll regen stamina really, really slowly before my health ticks down too far..."
> the lean, sandy-red gith arrives from the north. you're too tired to flee and you have like 40 hp.
> did i mention you're fucked?
I had a Dwarf warrior, seven days played. Not a particularly long lived character, but not brand new either. He joined Salaar and was out on some exploratory mission with the sarge and one other guy. We got light injuries and were heading back to Allanak when we discovered a cave. We had been searching for something important and thought that this could be our break. The Sarge ordered my Dwarf to lead us in, he protested mostly because he was already injured, but the sarge insisted that we enter the cave. WE enter the cave and are jumped by a giant red tarantula, a silt flyer and some other stuff. My Dwarf takes damage and yells for the sarge to leave the cave. The sarge's Flee failed and she ran farther into the cave and fell dead. I spam Flee and make it out of the cave with like 3 hp, I was panicked and command stacked because I kept hitting flee. I could have entered "stop" and walked out and got away, but instead one of the mob came out of the cave. DING!
Too recent to post. :'(
I had a templar a couple of years ago. Poo code was just added. It was a wonderful time.
I had the habit of going on RPTs with him drunk. On two of them I made very stupid mistakes. The second one lead to his very ignoble death in the sewers.
The worst part though is that I whined at Olgaris about it afterwards. If you're out there, Olgaris, sorry buddy.
Quote from: jstorrie on July 30, 2011, 02:51:39 AM
>disarm mantis best.buddy
>aw man
still this
sorry, best.buddy
The most depressing death was not my char.
Quite a few years ago I played a kid. And he developed a father figure who was a half-giant.
The half giant died protecting my char where mine was able to escape. this was like over 5 rl years i think.
I suppose it is not the depressing that this thread is about.
*stupid decisions* >:(