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Title: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 24, 2010, 01:12:50 PM
I think we should consolidate the MMA into one thread so that we stop bum rushing the other threads every couple of weeks when a fight happens.

Please bump this one whenever you have something MMA-related.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: aphex on October 24, 2010, 03:12:54 PM
I can't believe Werdum beat Fedor. What an upset. But both of them handled it so gracefully. I can't wait for the rematch - Emelianenko's gonna truck him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 24, 2010, 03:23:45 PM
I can't believe Werdum beat Fedor. What an upset. But both of them handled it so gracefully. I can't wait for the rematch - Emelianenko's gonna truck him.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_K-X5-ANqK70/SIPYR8BQz5I/AAAAAAAAALY/dCtccmJzqEk/s400/fedor.jpg.gif)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on October 24, 2010, 03:38:23 PM
Lesnar got wrecked, Boo hoo, but now I can go back to hating the fucker.

But what about Jake Shields? What a huge let down. Did he have a poor camp this time or what, because I've followed this guy and it wasn't him in the ring lat night.

Pretty lame card, I say. But then again I was fairly drunk and not really paying attention to the filler fights.

Cung Le will be fighting soon, I belive in Strikeforce again. Good stuff. I want to see him fight alot more before he gets any older.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 24, 2010, 03:39:22 PM
The Sanchez/Thiago fight was great, WP.

Also: Shields cut way too much weight. If he shows up like that against GSP he's going to get wrecked in seconds.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: aphex on October 24, 2010, 03:58:57 PM
I can't wait to see Cung Le fight again. Dude, have you guys seen CRAZY HORSE in WEC?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on October 24, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
I haven't seen Krazy Horse fight in awhile, but his premiere in EXC against KJ Noons was fucking BRUTAL. ANd he's one of the best interviews ever "I don't know kung-fu, and I don't know Judo. I'm a ghetto nigga. I fuck. People. Up."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: aphex on October 24, 2010, 04:09:28 PM
C(K?)razy Horse is one of my favorite fighters, because win or lose, every fight is an exciting brawl. He really enjoys going out and trying to rip the other guy's head off or die trying. I salute you, Krazy Horse.

He looks like he smokes crack rock before and after the fights.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 24, 2010, 04:10:57 PM
Okay, okay. Here's a list of my favorite fighters per weight class:

Heavyweight:
Junior Dos Santos
Big Nog
Roy Nelson (:D)
Fedor
Andre Arlovski
Shane Carwin

I loved Napao and Cro Cop back in their heydays.

Light Heavyweight:
Rashad Evans
Forrest Griffin
Ryan Bader
Jon Jones
Lil' Nog

Brandon Vera before he started to get lazy, too, was great.

Middleweight:
Anderson Silva
Yushin Okami
Sexyama
Alan Belcher
Tom Lawler
Cort Mcgee
Nate Quarry for eye candy.
Cyborg - if you're counting women's middle with men's. ;)

Welterweight:
GSP
Jon Fitch <3
Matt Brown
Koscheck before the Ultimate Fighter show (Douche!)
John Hathaway
Dustin Hazelett (Needs a better chin. :( -- but who pulls off flying ankle locks anymore?)
Anthony Johnson
Cris Lytle
Karo Parisyan, back in the day before his Vike addiction.
Paulo Thiago (anyone else think he looks like Franz Kafka? Hah.)
Nick Diaz

Lightweight (and littler):
Kenny Florian
Clay Guida
Jose Aldo
Matt Serra
BJ Penn, back in the day
EDIT: AND KOREAN ZOMBIE. I need one of those shirts.

And if there's any Black House fighters fighting, I usually root for them ... because I am a sucker for a Brasilian man.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Sephiroto on October 24, 2010, 04:11:51 PM
I haven't seen Krazy Horse fight in awhile, but his premiere in EXC against KJ Noons was fucking BRUTAL. ANd he's one of the best interviews ever "I don't know kung-fu, and I don't know Judo. I'm a ghetto nigga. I fuck. People. Up."

Krazy Horse = quality entertainment.  I love watching the guy in and out of the ring.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 30, 2010, 10:55:08 AM
WEC has merged with the UFC. Awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 03, 2010, 10:37:27 PM
God, Koscheck is such a piece of shit. There was the scene in Spartacus where they crucified and castrated this slave...Yeah. I think that would -almost- slake my thirst for Koscheck's blood and tears.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 03, 2010, 10:38:44 PM
Yuck...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 03, 2010, 10:53:46 PM
I wonder why he peroxides his hair ...  ??? ??? ???

Women can't honestly find that attractive.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 03, 2010, 11:01:44 PM
God, Koscheck is such a piece of shit. There was the scene in Spartacus where they crucified and castrated this slave...Yeah. I think that would -almost- slake my thirst for Koscheck's blood and tears.
I've yet to see TUF this week. He's a pretty big douche, yeah. I'm actually staying up tonight so I can watch it. I think it's on in 2 hours....
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 04, 2010, 02:03:23 AM
I wonder why he peroxides his hair ...  ??? ??? ???

Women can't honestly find that attractive.
He's pretty homophobic. He's probably a closet queer.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Wolfsong on November 04, 2010, 10:49:10 AM
I wonder why he peroxides his hair ...  ??? ??? ???

Women can't honestly find that attractive.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NldQwDmK_vc/R1BXrxliQcI/AAAAAAAACws/1TGq6-_Guz0/s1600-R/billy_idol.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on November 04, 2010, 11:22:03 AM
I'm working on the UG's mobile app.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 04, 2010, 06:32:45 PM
I wonder why he peroxides his hair ...  ??? ??? ???

Women can't honestly find that attractive.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NldQwDmK_vc/R1BXrxliQcI/AAAAAAAACws/1TGq6-_Guz0/s1600-R/billy_idol.jpg)

THAT is fine. But this is not:

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdXN6fr-jv2YURBsQNLjB6-GMRZ8m6uqDNyt2-18HFTXOxtgU&t=1&usg=__kvKRnCaYL_qZgCSovgecJiwSs3I=)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 04, 2010, 07:17:33 PM
I just couldn't believe his gall last night.

"You're a male nurse. A MALE NURSE!"

Yeah. He's a male nurse or a paramedic. Which means that he helps people and saves lives. What the fuck are you, except a douchebag that gets beat up by better men?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on November 04, 2010, 07:28:01 PM
If you want to stay up all night mesmerized by the best mma showman of all time go type 'Genki Sudo' into your browser.  Of particular interest is his fight against Butterbean who apparently decided to take on an mma bout in Japan at some point.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 04, 2010, 08:32:49 PM
I just couldn't believe his gall last night.

"You're a male nurse. A MALE NURSE!"

Yeah. He's a male nurse or a paramedic. Which means that he helps people and saves lives. What the fuck are you, except a douchebag that gets beat up by better men?

No doubt. What a cocksucker.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 05, 2010, 06:06:37 PM
That was a great Bully Beatdown episode. :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 06, 2010, 06:55:07 PM
Lesnar got wrecked, Boo hoo, but now I can go back to hating the fucker.

But what about Jake Shields? What a huge let down. Did he have a poor camp this time or what, because I've followed this guy and it wasn't him in the ring lat night.

Pretty lame card, I say. But then again I was fairly drunk and not really paying attention to the filler fights.

Cung Le will be fighting soon, I belive in Strikeforce again. Good stuff. I want to see him fight alot more before he gets any older.

I hate Lesnar! I was so glad he got his ass stomped. Carwin should have done it, but he tired out trying to finish it. I believe though,
the fight might have been called if it weren't a championship match and wasn't in the first round.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 06, 2010, 06:58:45 PM
Rahmi speaks truth. I jumped up and down like a crazy woman and nearly kiss the big screen TV after I saw Cain wreck his ass.

*swoon*
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Aruven on November 07, 2010, 03:15:05 PM
Lmao why are you all hating on brock?

I have to listen to all the mexicans that work in the shop with me talk about hispanic supremacy everday. I hope the next guy fucking smashes cain's face into surgery and early retirement.

Lyoto vs rampage, anyone?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 07, 2010, 04:37:23 PM
How about we all just stop with the borderline racist remarks and just chill?  The dude is proud of his cultural heritage, and he got a stupid tattoo to prove it.  Big deal.

This sort of "gawd I can't stand uppity hispanics" stuff is pretty offensive.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 07, 2010, 04:40:58 PM
I just couldn't believe his gall last night.

"You're a male nurse. A MALE NURSE!"

Yeah. He's a male nurse or a paramedic. Which means that he helps people and saves lives. What the fuck are you, except a douchebag that gets beat up by better men?

No doubt. What a cocksucker.

Also, I just have to comment that it's pretty amusing that you're sticking up for males working in a predominantly female field by flinging an epithet used to denigrate males who perform a typically female act.   I mean, seriously...if you're going to be a decent human being, why not go all the way and ditch the homophobia and juvenile vernacular as well?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 07, 2010, 04:43:58 PM
I think Cain's stupid tattoo is stupid. He's a great fighter, and a greatly humble competitor, though. It's impossible to dislike him if you have brain cells.

With that being said, most of the Marine Corps moto-tats are stupid, too. You've got your standard Old English "USMC" on your left tricep, or your motivated EGA over your breast. That is, until you get out of the Marine Corps--and whether or not you hated every second in the institution... you're bound to think it'll impress people by getting one.

Hey, BTW. Andre Galvao was spotted at TUF 13 Tryouts--apparently he got dropped from Strikeforce after getting handled by Woodley. That shit is gonna be sweeeeet. If he got in a good year or two of serious striking/wrestling practice, he'd be out of control.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 07, 2010, 08:09:35 PM
I just couldn't believe his gall last night.

"You're a male nurse. A MALE NURSE!"

Yeah. He's a male nurse or a paramedic. Which means that he helps people and saves lives. What the fuck are you, except a douchebag that gets beat up by better men?

No doubt. What a cocksucker.

Also, I just have to comment that it's pretty amusing that you're sticking up for males working in a predominantly female field by flinging an epithet used to denigrate males who perform a typically female act.   I mean, seriously...if you're going to be a decent human being, why not go all the way and ditch the homophobia and juvenile vernacular as well?

You're making this thread ridiculously silly. There's no reason for it. Should I go a step further and say, "Well, I'm Italian. All Italians say "cocksucker" and "douchebag" as part of their vocabulary"? That'd be racist, too. There's no need to be so PC. People just don't like certain people. Some people like certain insults. Blah, blah. C'est la vie.

And exactly the point, Is Friday. People can have lame brain tattoos, but he doesn't reek of some "Viva La Raza" mentality. He never said he was gonna go lay on his wife and insult a sponsor of his card and he seems like a decent human being. But, anyway.

Can we all at least agree Chael Sonnen is a turdbrain?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 08, 2010, 11:59:20 AM
Lmao why are you all hating on brock?

I have to listen to all the mexicans that work in the shop with me talk about hispanic supremacy everday. I hope the next guy fucking smashes cain's face into surgery and early retirement.

Lyoto vs rampage, anyone?

Hands down Machida in this one. I highly doubt Rampage even touches him. Machida is a great counter striker.
I want to see Machida fight Rashad again and make him look bad AGAIN. Give him the stanky leg.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 08, 2010, 08:34:27 PM
Lmao why are you all hating on brock?

I have to listen to all the mexicans that work in the shop with me talk about hispanic supremacy everday. I hope the next guy fucking smashes cain's face into surgery and early retirement.

Lyoto vs rampage, anyone?

Hands down Machida in this one. I highly doubt Rampage even touches him. Machida is a great counter striker.
I want to see Machida fight Rashad again and make him look bad AGAIN. Give him the stanky leg.

But Rahmi, I -love- Rashad. People think he's an asshole and he isn't. He's a psych major and totally fucks with people to get inside their skull. I don't see how anyone could like Rampage's lame brain over Rashad. But they do. And I am always alone in rooting for him. :(

That being said, gawd, I can't stand Machida with his unibrow and sloth eye! He just - I don't know. He's one Brasilian fighter I'm just not keen on. Shogun, on the other hand ... whew. Suga has his hands full.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 08, 2010, 09:10:15 PM
You're so inconsistent with your judgments on fighters, Boog. You like Rashad for being fake but hate Rampage or Koscheck for trying to do the same thing Rashad does for fights.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 08, 2010, 09:25:42 PM
You're so inconsistent with your judgments on fighters, Boog. You like Rashad for being fake but hate Rampage or Koscheck for trying to do the same thing Rashad does for fights.

I don't think he's ever made fun of anyone for being a male nurse, or consistently done things to be obnoxious, a la the Paul Daley fight with Kos. And there is nothing real about Rampage other than him being in a hit and run and apparently finding God in a dream. And in the end, Rashad is respectable, always, as he was after his fight with Rampage. His level of hype never gets out of hand, at least in my opinion. Kos's antics, and even sometimes Rampage's, especially when he acts like a muscle bound idiot, when he's really not, make me think twice on supporting them.

I think Rashad's really well spoken and I don't think he's as immature as people make him out to be. And, I think, he's also one of the best fighters to come off of the show. I think that the people who enjoy MMA as a whole perhaps don't appreciate eloquence as much as maybe I do.

Also, I'm a woman. We're finicky.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 08, 2010, 09:44:37 PM
I can see that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 08, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Lmao why are you all hating on brock?

I have to listen to all the mexicans that work in the shop with me talk about hispanic supremacy everday. I hope the next guy fucking smashes cain's face into surgery and early retirement.

Lyoto vs rampage, anyone?

Hands down Machida in this one. I highly doubt Rampage even touches him. Machida is a great counter striker.
I want to see Machida fight Rashad again and make him look bad AGAIN. Give him the stanky leg.

But Rahmi, I -love- Rashad. People think he's an asshole and he isn't. He's a psych major and totally fucks with people to get inside their skull. I don't see how anyone could like Rampage's lame brain over Rashad. But they do. And I am always alone in rooting for him. :(

That being said, gawd, I can't stand Machida with his unibrow and sloth eye! He just - I don't know. He's one Brasilian fighter I'm just not keen on. Shogun, on the other hand ... whew. Suga has his hands full.

I do not like any fighter who has to drop a weight class in order to win. Same thing goes for Diego, he had to drop two
weight classes in order to actually be good.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 08, 2010, 10:08:33 PM
I LOVE RAHMI.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 08, 2010, 11:41:24 PM
I LOVE RAHMI.

Why dat?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 09, 2010, 12:05:27 AM
Lmao why are you all hating on brock?

I have to listen to all the mexicans that work in the shop with me talk about hispanic supremacy everday. I hope the next guy fucking smashes cain's face into surgery and early retirement.

Lyoto vs rampage, anyone?

Hands down Machida in this one. I highly doubt Rampage even touches him. Machida is a great counter striker.
I want to see Machida fight Rashad again and make him look bad AGAIN. Give him the stanky leg.

But Rahmi, I -love- Rashad. People think he's an asshole and he isn't. He's a psych major and totally fucks with people to get inside their skull. I don't see how anyone could like Rampage's lame brain over Rashad. But they do. And I am always alone in rooting for him. :(

That being said, gawd, I can't stand Machida with his unibrow and sloth eye! He just - I don't know. He's one Brasilian fighter I'm just not keen on. Shogun, on the other hand ... whew. Suga has his hands full.

I do not like any fighter who has to drop a weight class in order to win. Same thing goes for Diego, he had to drop two
weight classes in order to actually be good.

Eh, Diego's 5'10", 171.  That's perfectly acceptable fighting weight for that height, and he wasn't any good at 155.  It's not like he was suffering at welterweight...he's 8-3 at that weight.  Most of the good fighters at 185 are around 6'1"-6'2".

And Rashad was only 5'11" and 225 on TUF.  That's way too small for most fighters to compete at heavyweight, even the good ones.  Only thing you'd accomplish is either a) beating up shitty fighters and wasting your talent or b) getting owned by bigger fighters.  Fedor and Couture could do it, but they're freaks.  You can't fault a guy for dropping 20 pounds when the alternative is getting squashed by someone up to 40 pounds heavier and up to 9 inches taller than you.  Hell, Rashad is even kinda small for a light heavyweight.  Average is about 6'1".
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 09, 2010, 12:40:49 AM
WTF, why does anyone care if someone drops weight? They made weight, so why should it matter?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 09, 2010, 12:42:06 AM
I think most times when people drop weight their quality and stamina go down so much, it's almost ... sad, to see them fight. God. Jake Shields looked horrible last fight and you know ... I don't think he deserved that win over Kampmann.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 09, 2010, 07:52:24 AM
Kampmann used to fight at 185, and dropped down to 170...so if he could do it and perform well, I don't see any reason why Shields shouldn't have been able to.

That boiled down to shitty preparation, not the weight-cutting itself.  They're both the same height, and it's not like Shields is some sort of muscle-bound freak.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 09, 2010, 06:50:56 PM
WTF, why does anyone care if someone drops weight? They made weight, so why should it matter?

I just don't feel like you are a good fighter if you have to drop multiple weight classes in order
to actually be good. You can't tell me, the talent doesn't get easier the more you drop in
weight class. Mabye not in Rashad's case, as there are some good talent in Light Heavy,
but for Diego? Dropping from a Middleweight to a lightweight is a major difference
in talent. Diego just looked sick fighting as a lightweight. He is a natural middleweight
and having to drop so much surely had to drain a lot of out him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Derain on November 09, 2010, 08:36:07 PM
WEC  Nov. 11th my friend is fighting.  Michael "mayday" McDonald on the under card for the Uriah Faber fight should be a slug fest.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 09, 2010, 09:18:55 PM
Dude, cutting weight isn't about talent.  EVERYONE does it.  If you're the one guy who doesn't do it, you're basically fighting UP a weight class just to prove a point.  I guarantee you every good fighter in the welterweight division walks around on a normal day between 185 and 195 lbs.  If you're a natural 170, you're giving up 15-25 lbs of muscle.  Cutting weight is just an unfortunate part of the game.  The only people who can go down two full weight classes are guys who have flab to spare.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 09, 2010, 09:53:40 PM
Dude, cutting weight isn't about talent.  EVERYONE does it.  If you're the one guy who doesn't do it, you're basically fighting UP a weight class just to prove a point.  I guarantee you every good fighter in the welterweight division walks around on a normal day between 185 and 195 lbs.  If you're a natural 170, you're giving up 15-25 lbs of muscle.  Cutting weight is just an unfortunate part of the game.  The only people who can go down two full weight classes are guys who have flab to spare.

Is a good point. Maybe I just do not like Diego or Rashad period.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 11, 2010, 08:57:32 PM
Dude, cutting weight isn't about talent.  EVERYONE does it.  If you're the one guy who doesn't do it, you're basically fighting UP a weight class just to prove a point.  I guarantee you every good fighter in the welterweight division walks around on a normal day between 185 and 195 lbs.  If you're a natural 170, you're giving up 15-25 lbs of muscle.  Cutting weight is just an unfortunate part of the game.  The only people who can go down two full weight classes are guys who have flab to spare.
Maybe it was once possible for those Jap fighters to not cut very much, but nowadays the game has advanced so far that not cutting weight is a death sentence. If you do it right, there is no detriment to your performance. It'll probably just dick up your health in the long run.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 14, 2010, 09:58:57 AM
It's pretty awesome to see a Jap in line for a title shot, (Okami.) I thought Nate came in without the ability to pull the trigger this time--being afraid of the takedown, therefore allowing Okami to control the pace.

I didn't know Amir was so awesome to watch. He's like a robot on fast forward. Too bad he didn't have it in his gameplan to finish.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 14, 2010, 10:36:06 AM
Okami vs. Silva II. Whee. Hopefully Silva doesn't do another illegal upkick this time? I'm so glad Okami won. Nate already had his chance. Pfffbt.

Oh wait. Vitor's in the way. I fohgot.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 19, 2010, 10:21:09 PM
That girl-on-girl episode of Bully Beatdown (available online!) was epic. :)

Also: Rampage v. Machida tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 19, 2010, 11:00:12 PM
I just can't imagine Okami beating Silva in any way.  He's tough, but his technique doesn't seem sharp enough.

For tomorrow:  GAWD, I hope hating Matt Hughes is enough to get B.J. Penn off his lazy fucking ass and TRAIN for once.  And for Christ's sake, can you please do some fucking jiu-jitsu?  They don't call you "the prodigy" for your fucking slightly-above-average boxing skills.

My predictions:
Tyson Griffin wins by decision
Karo Parisyan wins by decision
Aaron Simpson wins by second round ground and pound
Brian Foster wins by submission because Matt Brown is such a sucker for losing by sub
Sotiropoulos wins by submission after he overpowers Lauzon...probably rear naked choke  (I like Lauzon, but Sotiropoulos is a stud)
Penn wins by decision after three rounds of shitty stand-up, because Hughes doesn't trust his ground game anymore and Penn certainly isn't going to press the issue, because anyone can box better than Matt Hughes (except Renzo Gracie, apparently)
Machida wins by decision after three rounds of being really evasive, but landing better shots from outside while working Rampage over with leg-kicks
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 19, 2010, 11:37:14 PM
Parisyan being back in the UFC ... god. I don't even know.

I pick ...

Griffin ... hm. Decision.
Parisyan by a boring ass decision victory since his thigh is too fucked up for his judo to be a factor anymore. Parisyan looked like shit. No way. I'm going with the other guy.
Muñoz on the prelim.
AND I LIKE MATT BROWN THEREFORE I AM ROOTING FOR HIM.
Sotiropoulos via submission.
Hughes even though I like Penn much better.
Machida via TKO.

I'm hoping some of these lightweights will drop to lower weight classes with the upcoming merger. This is where I think Griffin might exceed, for instance.

I'm thinking Boetsch will lose by like, self TKO Haha. At least he fights exciting fights.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 20, 2010, 02:37:28 AM
Ha, that reminds me of that fight where Gray Maynard slammed that dude so hard he knocked -himself- out, but the other dude tapped at the same time because it hurt so bad.  Most epic fight ending since that double-knockout in King of the Cage.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 20, 2010, 09:54:56 AM
Are you telling me that Maynard did something exciting? You mean he doesn't just barely pull off lame ass split decisions?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 20, 2010, 03:24:49 PM
Are you telling me that Maynard did something exciting? You mean he doesn't just barely pull off lame ass split decisions?

hahaaa <3

I'm sort of excited for his and Frankie's fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 21, 2010, 01:11:43 AM
NON SPOILER COMMENTS:

Damn, the BJ Penn / Hughes fight was nuts.

The Rampage/Machida fight was crazy, too. I can't blame the judges on the decision, though--one of those fighters didn't do shit for the first two rounds.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 21, 2010, 02:08:37 AM
They're talking BJ Penn v Jon Fitch right now--since Penn is at welterweight now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 21, 2010, 02:59:40 AM
They're talking BJ Penn v Jon Fitch right now--since Penn is at welterweight now.

Fiiiiitch
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 21, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
Dude.

Just.

Dude. That is so ridiculous.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 21, 2010, 02:05:00 PM
Dude.

Just.

Dude. That is so ridiculous.
You can be more vague.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 21, 2010, 04:33:05 PM
I didn't want to spoil it, but that decision. Whew.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 21, 2010, 04:35:16 PM
Man, I'm going to have to re-watch it.  I ended up drunken rambling at Bogre the entire time.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 17, 2010, 12:04:05 AM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TQrst99qWTI/AAAAAAAAA-4/pduzoiHqZww/s1600/12.gif)

You cannot be unamazed by this Van Damme moment in MMA.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on December 17, 2010, 12:51:17 PM
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_zz3p63WSXZE/TQrst99qWTI/AAAAAAAAA-4/pduzoiHqZww/s1600/12.gif)

You cannot be unamazed by this Van Damme moment in MMA.

Hah, was jut about to post this. Whapeeeeesh!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 18, 2010, 09:47:42 PM
Am I the only person who thinks the WEC lightweights are better than the UFC's?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 18, 2010, 10:03:18 PM
Am I the only person who thinks the WEC lightweights are better than the UFC's?
We shall see very soon.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 19, 2010, 11:25:11 AM
I just watched the K1 Grand Prix. Overeem is a fucking monster. A barbarian raider out of a nightmare. I'd love to see him fight Lesnar or Velasquez or any of the -top- Heavyweights right now. Strikeforce has a goldmine there and they need to take advantage rather than let him run hog ass wild in Dream and K1.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 19, 2010, 11:32:02 AM
I just watched the K1 Grand Prix. Overeem is a fucking monster. A barbarian raider out of a nightmare. I'd love to see him fight Lesnar or Velasquez or any of the -top- Heavyweights right now. Strikeforce has a goldmine there and they need to take advantage rather than let him run hog ass wild in Dream and K1.
He's the Strikeforce Heavyweight Champ. He's unlikely to get bought out anytime soon. (Although, Shields was--but he had an invested interest in switching over. I don't think OVereem does.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 19, 2010, 11:49:55 AM
He's the SF champ, but when was the last big fight he had? Rogers? In that time he's smashed Dream apart, won the Grand Prix, and become a bigger name than ever. They're talking about him fighting on the New Year's Strikeforce card, but against who I dunno (haven't looked). No matter who it is, though, it's going to be against an inferior stock unless it's Fedor, SF's only other Heavyweight big-dick. Strikeforce should keep him locked down, no doubt, but they need to bring in some talent for him to beat up otherwise they're just pissing away a hell of a fighter in what is obviously his prime.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 02, 2011, 02:02:26 PM
Captain Stann pummeled the shit out of Leben. :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on January 02, 2011, 02:13:56 PM
Captain Stann pummeled the shit out of Leben. :)

That one was alright.  Maynard blew it, wtf is a draw man!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 05, 2011, 12:28:16 AM
Man, reading the comments on the UFC Facebook page disgusts me. Everyone's busy tossing racial slurs at Anderson Silva. It's really sad to see what jealousy does to people, I guess, huh?

That being said, my picks for tomorrow night are:

Silva v. Belfort - Silva. Belfort either comes to kill or sucks. I hope it's the former for a good fight, but I think Silva's uncanny and sort of 'bred' natural ability is going to win out here, especially if it gets past rounds one or two. :)
Jones v. Bader - I've never really like Bader. I don't know why. I know this'll be a good fight - I hope Jon Jones pulls off another awkward looking throw or something ridiculous. I'm going with Jones. (Also, racial slurs about Jones on the Facebook page too. I just don't get it! Then I got called mean names for asking them to be more intelligent. I giggled, at least.)
Franklin v. Griffin - I like Forrest. He has a little more heart. That being said, Rich has been a beeeast in his last few fights (knocking Chuck out with a broken hand!?), so I'm sure this'll be a goodie, too.

There are more fights. I'd post, but my fingers are cold.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on February 05, 2011, 01:04:52 AM
What the fuck was the mask at the weigh ins? Silva is such a douche.

Vitor is tough but I don't think he's bringing his sword this time.

I'm stoked for Jones to win and then see where he goes next. Of all the up and comers, I've been following him the most avidly over the past year.

I'm torn to pick between Rich or Forrest. They're both personal favorites. I'll say Rich wins with late ko or decision unless Griffin gets beat on a little bit and remembers through the fog that he's a muthafuckin' gangster, but it hasn't happened in awhile.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 05, 2011, 02:06:06 AM
He wasn't um, being a douche. It was a play on words. Vitor said, "Anderson hides behind a mask of talking shit about people", and so, Anderson wore a mask to weigh-ins. ;)

I've honestly never heard smack talk from his mouth, but there again, I don't speak Brasilian Portuguese fluently. I know how to say like, 5 things. :/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on February 05, 2011, 11:04:59 AM
Man, reading the comments on the UFC Facebook page disgusts me. Everyone's busy tossing racial slurs at Anderson Silva. It's really sad to see what jealousy does to people, I guess, huh?

UFC's Facebook and the UG are wretched hives of scum and villainy. Heh, the GDB on its very worst day would be a shining beacon of civility on those site's very best day.

That said, UFC party at our place tonight. Go Vitor!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on February 05, 2011, 01:28:15 PM
Yeah...MMA numbskulls are pretty annoying.  It's just one of those complex sports with multiple layers of appeal, sort of like football (American-style).  For every person who sits around debating the relative value of the zone defense versus the quarterback option, there will be ten who are like, "DUDE, HE CRUSHED THAT GUY SO HARD HIS UNBORN CHILDREN GOT CONCUSSIONS!"

I'd like to see Belfort win, but I wouldn't bet on it because he doesn't have enough tools in the toolbox.  He has quick and powerful hands, but against a reach disadvantage, I think he's going to end up doing a lot of swinging at the air.  Then again, he definitely has a puncher's chance if he keeps it standing...it's not like Silva's defense is 100%.  I'd say his best chance for winning is to keep Silva pressed against the cage for the vast majority of the fight, and score points with dirty boxing and minor takedowns to win a decision.  I don't think he has that kind of mental discipline, though...I have a feeling he's going to come out swinging for the fences and run into a hard right, eat a couple of knees, then wake up in the hospital ready to go to the weigh-ins.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Majikal on February 05, 2011, 03:23:24 PM
Think you about summed up my opinion on how I think the fights going to go Synth.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 06, 2011, 08:38:19 AM
lolololololololololol

I screamed like a banshee. And I didn't care. One of the funnest knockouts ever.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 15, 2011, 02:47:52 AM
I am so STOKED for Penn versus Fitch. Jon Fitch is one of my favorites, ever. People bitch that he never finishes fights, but man, they are always, always exciting to me. Always. *excited*

I also like Paulo Thiago, too, but he's injured. :(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 02, 2011, 10:09:37 PM
THREAD NECRO.

We had some grappling fun today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAzvYGlT88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LijCNMzfz_4
I'm trying to coach the poor LCpl in the background, but he is unable to heed my words of wisdom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NqGOI1jbUA
Me and an instructor. (He's the black belt.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on March 02, 2011, 10:38:48 PM
THREAD NECRO.

We had some grappling fun today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUAzvYGlT88

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LijCNMzfz_4
I'm trying to coach the poor LCpl in the background, but he is unable to heed my words of wisdom.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NqGOI1jbUA
Me and an instructor. (He's the black belt.)

Oh man, you're lucky he didn't know what he was doing in that first video.  Crossing your ankles when you take the back is a huge mistake.  Once someone pulls the counter on you once, you will never do it again...it's that painful.

Also, in the third one...repeat after me:  "Never one arm in, one arm out."  Repeat that to yourself 100 times every day before you start rolling.  If you make it second nature, your chances of being triangle choked go down like 90%.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 02, 2011, 11:12:21 PM
Gracie's kids did a nice video about back mounts and stuff. It's on mma-scraps, I think. Or mma-tko. I don't remember which.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 02, 2011, 11:22:36 PM
Gracie's kids did a nice video about back mounts and stuff. It's on mma-scraps, I think. Or mma-tko. I don't remember which.
I'm watching their breakdown of UFC 127. Very cool. Thanks.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 02, 2011, 11:24:04 PM
Gracie's kids did a nice video about back mounts and stuff. It's on mma-scraps, I think. Or mma-tko. I don't remember which.
I'm watching their breakdown of UFC 127. Very cool. Thanks.

No problem! I loved it, even though they were a little ... just, too happy! Haha.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 09, 2011, 02:02:08 AM
Jon Jones or Shogun?! Manboog thinks Bones. I'm thinking Shogun, just because of his experience level.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: brytta.leofa on March 09, 2011, 02:35:18 PM
We had some grappling fun today.

In some of the grappling postures, the throat and/or groin look vulnerable to a strike.  Am I wrong?  Or am I right, but teh grapping teaches other valuable stuff notwithstanding?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 09, 2011, 02:36:29 PM
We had some grappling fun today.

In some of the grappling postures, the throat and/or groin look vulnerable to a strike.  Am I wrong?  Or am I right, but teh grapping teaches other valuable stuff notwithstanding?
You are not wrong. We were not striking, however.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Derain on March 09, 2011, 02:42:20 PM
http://mmajunkie.com/news/21384/wec-52-fight-video-michael-mcdonald-vs-clint-godfrey-prelim-bout.mma

Michael Mcdonald is a friend of mine from when I lived in California has his first UFC bout this month against Nick Pace.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on March 19, 2011, 06:35:59 PM
Tonight's UFC is going to be awesome!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 19, 2011, 07:12:54 PM
I love Jones but I really think Rua's got this one.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 20, 2011, 01:13:02 AM
I love Jones but I really think Rua's got this one.
Rua took Jones further than anyone else, but y'know--still got decimated. That was kind of depressing.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 20, 2011, 01:24:12 AM
I love Jones but I really think Rua's got this one.
Rua took Jones further than anyone else, but y'know--still got decimated. That was kind of depressing.

Yeah. I haven't seen it yet, but I figured. All the old timers are just -- y'know. Crumblin'.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 20, 2011, 01:25:06 AM
I love Jones but I really think Rua's got this one.
Rua took Jones further than anyone else, but y'know--still got decimated. That was kind of depressing.

Yeah. I haven't seen it yet, but I figured. All the old timers are just -- y'know. Crumblin'.
Sorry I spoiled. Why can't you watch it in REAL TIME, dude?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 20, 2011, 01:31:53 AM
I love Jones but I really think Rua's got this one.
Rua took Jones further than anyone else, but y'know--still got decimated. That was kind of depressing.

Yeah. I haven't seen it yet, but I figured. All the old timers are just -- y'know. Crumblin'.
Sorry I spoiled. Why can't you watch it in REAL TIME, dude?

I don't really mind. Manboog does. Anyway, I've gotten sick every time I've tried to sit at B-Dubs lately and so I don't go out to watch it. On those MMA sites I link they usually post the fights later, so then I watch them.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on March 20, 2011, 01:39:47 AM
Jon Jones whooped that ass like a boss.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 20, 2011, 01:43:20 AM
Jon Jones whooped that ass like a boss.
I really wonder how much of it is his trollish stature. The LHW division has gone through some radical changes within the last couple of years--I wonder if Jones will last. Our last two Champs had a legitimately dominant challenging performance just like Jones did.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 20, 2011, 02:00:17 AM
Jon Jones whooped that ass like a boss.
I really wonder how much of it is his trollish stature. The LHW division has gone through some radical changes within the last couple of years--I wonder if Jones will last. Our last two Champs had a legitimately dominant challenging performance just like Jones did.

Yeah. Rua was AMAZING against Machida and I really thought it'd be -that- Rua, the Rua of Yore, coming out to lay the smacketh down, but ... alas. :/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on March 20, 2011, 02:07:37 AM
Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva.

Rashad Evans can eat a bag of dicks.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 20, 2011, 02:09:37 AM
Jon Jones vs. Anderson Silva.

Rashad Evans can eat a bag of dicks.

Hey. Heyyy. Hey.

I root for him because he's from my area of upstate NY and ... he ... um. He was the best choice on his season of the Ultimate Fighter! Don't hate on puffy lips. :(

Silva's gotta get Georgy Porgy out of the way first.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on March 20, 2011, 02:11:28 AM
Georgy who?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 20, 2011, 10:56:58 AM
http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Minotauro-Wanderlei-Rush-to-Japans-Aid-30936

<3 Big Nog. And Wandy. Sometimes on the latter, but always on the former.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 13, 2011, 11:08:33 PM
OH LOOK BROCK LESNAR PUSSES OUT AGAIN. They need to just let him go. I'm so sick of him. So sick of him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 13, 2011, 11:10:39 PM
OH LOOK BROCK LESNAR PUSSES OUT AGAIN. They need to just let him go. I'm so sick of him. So sick of him.
I don't think injuries are "pussing out". Do you know what it's like to go through intensive training and get hurt?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 13, 2011, 11:13:49 PM
OH LOOK BROCK LESNAR PUSSES OUT AGAIN. They need to just let him go. I'm so sick of him. So sick of him.
I don't think injuries are "pussing out". Do you know what it's like to go through intensive training and get hurt?

Roy Nelson predicted he'd back down. Diverticulitis? Yeah. I wouldn't FIGHT if I had it, because I'm not an idiot and I don't want my colon exploding.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 13, 2011, 11:17:31 PM
The frequency of injuries amongst the top tier of fighters is very high for good reason. They're pushing themselves beyond charted safe-zones.

The layoff will probably help Lesnar, though. He needs more striking development.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on May 14, 2011, 12:17:57 AM
Diverticulitis is a fighting injury ...?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 14, 2011, 12:35:09 AM
Diverticulitis is a fighting injury ...?
No it's not. Brock came down with some stomach ulcer or something a year back.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 14, 2011, 07:57:58 AM
Diverticulitis is a fighting injury ...?
No it's not. Brock came down with some stomach ulcer or something a year back.

That turned out to be diverticulitis. It's really, probably, not something you should fight with as it is reoccurring. It's not something that can be 'fixed' to the point of a broken bone or a detached retina (though, Lawd, I wouldn't fight with the latter, probably, either). It sucks, but the UFC isn't like wrestling where you can have a storyline and go away and come back and still be champ. The whole organization doesn't bow to Brock's singular star in the sky and he should begin to realize this. He has gotten good in a quick amount of time due to his college wrestling background, but to me he is still overly cocky and confident. I would've loved to see JDS blast the shit out of him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Jdr on May 14, 2011, 08:07:51 AM
I liked Lesnar when he was a rassler and I have never seen UFC but he is still awesome because of that. Does he still do the thing with the shooting sparks like in WWE? His little signature entrance theme thing?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on May 14, 2011, 11:39:45 AM
I can only find one case report of someone suffering a ruptured colonic diverticulum as a result of abdominal blunt-force trauma, and that was caused by a seatbelt during a high-speed MVA.  That being said, I suppose it isn't out of the realm of possibility that a kick to the sigmoid colon could cause a rupture, but overall, your abdominal contents are fairly well-protected against blunt forces.  Straining during exercise could be another potential thing to worry about, but it seems like increased intra-colonic pressure (which would cause the rupture) would mostly be equalized with increased intra-abdominal pressure, so that the net force on the diverticulum itself would be relatively unchanged...but that's just speculation.  My guess is that if he can train to fight without any problems, actually being in a fight isn't going to present much more of an increased risk, with respect to the diverticulosis.  The same generally applies if he had the affected bit of colon removed.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 14, 2011, 01:43:25 PM
I can only find one case report of someone suffering a ruptured colonic diverticulum as a result of abdominal blunt-force trauma, and that was caused by a seatbelt during a high-speed MVA.  That being said, I suppose it isn't out of the realm of possibility that a kick to the sigmoid colon could cause a rupture, but overall, your abdominal contents are fairly well-protected against blunt forces.  Straining during exercise could be another potential thing to worry about, but it seems like increased intra-colonic pressure (which would cause the rupture) would mostly be equalized with increased intra-abdominal pressure, so that the net force on the diverticulum itself would be relatively unchanged...but that's just speculation.  My guess is that if he can train to fight without any problems, actually being in a fight isn't going to present much more of an increased risk, with respect to the diverticulosis.  The same generally applies if he had the affected bit of colon removed.

I was, in my pregnant rage, more wishing it just would blow up because I don't really like him. I think that his ride so far, before Cain, was fairly easy and that he was handed a lot of his success. Sure, he is a big 'crowd pull' from the wrasslin' crowd (lol, South Park), but I think he was given unfair advantages and has been unsportsmanlike in many situations. So, yeah. He's big and fast and a great wrestler, this is true, but he shouldn't be the face of MMA.

rantrantrant.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 14, 2011, 03:14:49 PM
You're such a purist.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 15, 2011, 12:58:14 PM
(http://www.mmatko.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/machida-bath.jpg)

WHAT THE FUCK?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 28, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
Durn. That picture broke. Needless to say it's the Machida family all in the bath together.

Did anyone see the weigh-ins? Yeah, Rampage, you're so cool to be mean muggin' a deaf guy. Lemme tell ya.

Some of these fights are wicked interesting to me! I'll edit and post picks a lil later.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 28, 2011, 03:59:49 PM
Rampage has said been nothing but respectful leading up to this fight. p.s. a lot of people mean mug Matt Hammill. It's a fighting sport.

p.p.s. Stop hatin on Rampage because he's legit.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on May 28, 2011, 05:37:21 PM
Has Matt Hammill ever failed to disappoint?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 28, 2011, 07:24:31 PM
Rampage has said been nothing but respectful leading up to this fight. p.s. a lot of people mean mug Matt Hammill. It's a fighting sport.

p.p.s. Stop hatin on Rampage because he's legit.  ;D

I dunno ... I guess I just haven't found him fascinating since Pride and he plays up on his, "I'm a dumb gangster," act way too much. Also, lol, yes, when you cheat on your wife and have a baby with someone else, you are prolly gonna have to pay for it. Chroist.

Hammer's gonna go all out! I'm excited for it. I'm also excited for Nelson and Mir! I want Boetsch to wreck Grove (I CAN NOT STAND TITO'S PERSONAL BUNGHOLE LICKER). All the other fights I don't particularly have a 'pick', but I'm hoping they'll be good. I'm hoping. IF, you're all about Stann, right?

Also, IF, you're not allowed to talk to me until like, 3am your time, because you always spoil the fights for me! Rofl. <3
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 29, 2011, 12:03:17 AM
Goddamnit I wanna talk shit to you right now boog. I'll wait until tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 29, 2011, 12:31:49 AM
Goddamnit I wanna talk shit to you right now boog. I'll wait until tomorrow.

IT'S OKAY FACEBOOK RUINED IT FOR ME.

I "liked" a JDS fan page and so they go and blab every fucking thing on me. Hate hate hate.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 29, 2011, 12:35:47 AM
Yeah, too bad Hamill had nothing for Rampage. He needed a few more fights before he jumped up to the Top 10, baby.

p.s. Brian Stann FTWWWW. I'd like to see him against a contender, now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Jdr on May 29, 2011, 12:49:49 AM
God, why don't you two just get married. ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 29, 2011, 12:56:43 AM
God, why don't you two just get married. ;)

You just want to fight me for him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Jdr on May 29, 2011, 12:58:24 AM
Was my jealousy that evident? :(

<3 boog
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 29, 2011, 01:00:17 AM
Ladies, gentlemen... we can have a free-for-all. Worry not.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 29, 2011, 01:01:21 AM
Ladies, gentlemen... we can have a free-for-all. Worry not.

It's gotta be after October. I bet your wife could take Jdr!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 29, 2011, 01:02:46 AM
I'm not sure if I'd really get turned on by my wife beating up an opponent with smaller boobs.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Jdr on May 29, 2011, 01:03:15 AM
Oh please, like some Canuck could beat me.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 29, 2011, 01:12:52 AM
Oh please, like some Canuck could beat me.

Them's fightin' words.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 29, 2011, 02:50:38 AM
Man. Boetsch had some sweet fucking wrestling. Holy balls!!! That flippy thing -- wow. I was so impressed. Thank god stupid ass Kendall got pwned. Meow.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on May 29, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
you guys see our new thing? ufc.com/bars

Let me know if how it works makes sense

Eh, moved to sub-domain: http://bars.ufc.com/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 29, 2011, 02:20:02 PM
You code for the UFC website?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on May 29, 2011, 05:11:06 PM
You code for the UFC website?

Some of the newer stuff like Bars & Octagon Nation Tour, yup!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 29, 2011, 05:40:40 PM
Dude that shit is cool. Makes sense to me. Even had my local joint that I like going to.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on May 29, 2011, 05:56:38 PM
Dude that shit is cool. Makes sense to me. Even had my local joint that I like going to.

Awesome. We were burning the candle at both ends to roll that out for 129. Lots of neat stuff planned for the future. Thanks for checking it out.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on May 29, 2011, 06:28:37 PM
Yeah, a few years ago you couldn't find a bar that would host it, because the licensing fees were really high.  Not sure if that's changed, or if the increase in popularity has made it more attractive.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 29, 2011, 08:52:09 PM
Yeah, a few years ago you couldn't find a bar that would host it, because the licensing fees were really high.  Not sure if that's changed, or if the increase in popularity has made it more attractive.

If I were a waitress at B-Dubs ... I would work every single UFC fight. They make so much bank!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on May 29, 2011, 09:35:39 PM
Yeah, a few years ago you couldn't find a bar that would host it, because the licensing fees were really high.  Not sure if that's changed, or if the increase in popularity has made it more attractive.

If I were a waitress at B-Dubs ... I would work every single UFC fight. They make so much bank!

My sister is a waitress at B-Dubs when she's not a ringside girl at some of those regional UFC fights.  :P
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 29, 2011, 09:36:42 PM
If you're meaning to say MMA instead of UFC, that's kind of annoying.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on May 30, 2011, 10:27:33 AM
Yeah, a few years ago you couldn't find a bar that would host it, because the licensing fees were really high.  Not sure if that's changed, or if the increase in popularity has made it more attractive.

If I were a waitress at B-Dubs ... I would work every single UFC fight. They make so much bank!

Yeah, it's a cash cow and all the new Bar stuff (website and mobile apps) help more people find your spot if you're officially showing the event.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on May 30, 2011, 12:58:32 PM
If you're meaning to say MMA instead of UFC, that's kind of annoying.

Oh, crap, you're right.  MMA.  Who cares?  Boxing rules.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 10, 2011, 04:26:45 PM
your picks, gents?

...And ladies, I guess. If any girls other than me um, have picks, you can post, too. ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 10, 2011, 11:03:14 PM
I dunno, but we're gonna play the Steven Seagal: Lawman drinking game prior to the UFC. Also, my boy Joey is fightin.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on June 11, 2011, 01:54:04 PM
Friday are you excited about Carwin vs Santos?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 11, 2011, 04:23:59 PM
Who cares if he is!? I am! I'm going with JDS KOing Carwin, front kick to the face.

No, but in all seriousness, JDS is one of my like top 5 favorite fighters. I love those humble Brasilians. I'm going with Munoz over Maia, TKO ... Edwards over Stout (though I LOVE, absolutely LOVE Sam Stout. I swear, I met him at Enchanted Forest when I was like, 10. I must have. That kid's name was Sam, too, and god, Ontario's RIGHT FREAKIN THERE.) via decision. I worry about Cerrone getting subbed, because those have been his only defeats. Um. I have to rah rah for Herman because he's from Indiana and manboog says, "OH LOOK," whenever someone is decent from Indiana ... and I think Nunes is going to give Kenflo a run for his friggin' money. Don't get me wrong, I love Kenny, I just -- Nunes is good. I'd like to see Massenzio sub Soszynski, but ... well. I won't hold my breath, since I rarely get to see amazing arm, leg, body breaks anymore since everyone's a wrassler. :(

I wish your boy Beltran luck, IF!

...I'll have to ask manboog when he wakes up which fighter was an Abu Dhabi champ. He was swooning over the dude's credentials earlier.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on June 11, 2011, 04:52:49 PM
Kenny Florian's strategy is to cut weight until he makes it into a division he can finally dominate.  Eventually he's going to have to start amputating limbs.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 11, 2011, 05:22:13 PM
Kenny Florian's strategy is to cut weight until he makes it into a division he can finally dominate.  Eventually he's going to have to start amputating limbs.

And his nose ... ;)

Also, I didn't mean IF's opinion isn't important! I just meant, mostly, I think I'm excited enough for this fight for the whole GDB combined.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 11, 2011, 05:41:24 PM
The pre-pre-pre-pre fights start streaming on Facebook in 10 minutes. LIKE Ultimate Fighting Championship and click on live video or whatever it is.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 11, 2011, 06:50:47 PM
I HOPE I AM NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO THINKS THAT FUCKING COCKEYED MOHAWK IS RETARDED AS SHIT.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 11, 2011, 09:37:50 PM
Sometimes, I really enjoy being wrong. :) :) :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 11, 2011, 11:48:29 PM
Yeaaaah Joey finished tonight. He's gonna get another fight! Sweet!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on June 14, 2011, 10:20:47 AM
Woo, tics to Strikeforce in Dallas this Saturday!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 18, 2011, 11:07:13 PM
Noons' poor face. Whoosh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on June 20, 2011, 09:34:42 AM
Noons' poor face. Whoosh.

Man, that was a big fuckin gourd.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 20, 2011, 11:29:24 AM
Noons' poor face. Whoosh.

Man, that was a big fuckin gourd.

(http://cdn1.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/1452880/masvidal_brutalizes_noons_in_pulling_the_upset_at_strikeforce_large.jpg)

It was even worse after they cleaned him up. Good gawd. Can you -break- someone's forehead? Because at the end of that fight, that boy's forehead was swollen beyond belief.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on June 20, 2011, 12:26:48 PM
It wasn't quite a Hominick, but damn!

(http://megamma.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/bighominick.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 26, 2011, 11:13:52 PM
OMG!

That was the craziest KO ever.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 27, 2011, 12:38:46 AM
OMG!

That was the craziest KO ever.

I'm glad to see Kongo back! I am. I wasn't sure how that shit was gonna turn out. Neither of them disappointed.

Unless you mean Mitrione's fight. That was good. Or Brenneman! That was good, too.

They were all good. And free. *glee*
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 27, 2011, 01:06:26 AM
Yeah I meant Kongo. I was just trying to not ruin it for you if you hadn't seen it!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Jdr on June 27, 2011, 10:41:32 AM
You two should just get married already. ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on June 27, 2011, 03:59:00 PM
That really was sick. Here' the KO in question if anyone's curious:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpZPBPIVVok
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 27, 2011, 04:05:22 PM
So I'm new to this whole MMA thing. IF I want to watch fights and not pay, and don't have tv is there an easy way, or should I just stick to my normal piracy methods. Also, I have a couple favorites, and I know a few names, but who should I be looking out for, which matches are usually the best and in which divisions.

Thanks :)

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on June 27, 2011, 04:05:38 PM
Somebody told me once that having heart was good in a fight, but you only need it when you're beat.  That KO was pretty awesome!

As an aside, Joe Rogan (is that his voice I heard?) is so annoying.  "It's over."  Loser!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 27, 2011, 04:43:45 PM
So I'm new to this whole MMA thing. IF I want to watch fights and not pay, and don't have tv is there an easy way, or should I just stick to my normal piracy methods. Also, I have a couple favorites, and I know a few names, but who should I be looking out for, which matches are usually the best and in which divisions.

Thanks :)



Google: MMAtko, MMA-Scraps ... Manboog has a few others he goes to to watch stuff and keep up on news.

If you ask me, all of the weight classes are pretty stacked. Google something like, "top 10 MMA fighters" of "whatever weight class" and you will probably get a decent ranking of who you should be on the look out for.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 28, 2011, 11:46:12 PM
sherdog.com is a pretty good resource for information. Just don't go on the forums--it's a cesspool.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on July 05, 2011, 06:03:53 PM
We has new toys:
http://m.ufc.com/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 05, 2011, 08:56:38 PM
What a good picture of Mr. Puffy Lips. Lawdy, I love him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on July 05, 2011, 10:54:39 PM
What a good picture of Mr. Puffy Lips. Lawdy, I love him.

Boog and Friday, kick the shit out of our new mobile site and let me know if it's fan worthy.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 05, 2011, 10:58:52 PM
What a good picture of Mr. Puffy Lips. Lawdy, I love him.

Boog and Friday, kick the shit out of our new mobile site and let me know if it's fan worthy.

It is VERY nice on my phone, and my phone isn't very technically profound. Love it, holmes. Love it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on July 06, 2011, 09:42:56 AM
It is VERY nice on my phone, and my phone isn't very technically profound. Love it, holmes. Love it.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Symphony on July 06, 2011, 09:43:44 AM
It is VERY nice on my phone, and my phone isn't very technically profound. Love it, holmes. Love it.

 ;D

Also downloaded the application for my Android. Found a couple, actually and they'll come in extremely useful. Thanks for letting us know, Fnord!


- Symph
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on July 06, 2011, 10:38:25 AM
Also downloaded the application for my Android. Found a couple, actually and they'll come in extremely useful. Thanks for letting us know, Fnord!

- Symph

Cool, which appy? We did Bars. Someone else did the new UFC TV.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Symphony on July 06, 2011, 10:45:11 AM
Also downloaded the application for my Android. Found a couple, actually and they'll come in extremely useful. Thanks for letting us know, Fnord!

- Symph

Cool, which appy? We did Bars. Someone else did the new UFC TV.

I downloaded both UFC Bars and UFC TV. Only have used the bars one so far. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on July 06, 2011, 12:16:20 PM
I downloaded both UFC Bars and UFC TV. Only have used the bars one so far. Works like a charm.

Thanks for trying out our shiz.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 04, 2011, 10:57:16 PM
Bueller?! BUELLER?

Who the hell is everyone picking for Saturday? I get to go out and get gussied up and taken to B-Dubs. :) :) :) :) Oh yeah. Pregnant lady screaming at the big screen TVs with a rib stickin' out of her mouth.

That being said, I hope Rashad smacks the bleach out of Tito's hair.

And I hope Jorge wins, just because manboog always says, "Hey, it's your dad!" (Weirdly enough he does look like my pops. Shit.)

I'll get more picks after I go and research some of the names I'm not too familiar with.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 04, 2011, 11:32:11 PM
I've got Vitor beating Sexyama. I'm not entirely sure why Sexyama was given this fight other than "hey... we'll take anybody to fight Vitor."

If Rashad does not completely dominate Tito then he shall feel ashamed.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 05, 2011, 12:12:18 AM
I've got Vitor beating Sexyama. I'm not entirely sure why Sexyama was given this fight other than "hey... we'll take anybody to fight Vitor."

If Rashad does not completely dominate Tito then he shall feel ashamed.

Uh-greeed.

I hope Vitor comes out guns blazin'. But he did just have Hep. A, so ... let's hope.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 05, 2011, 10:37:46 AM
I've got Rashad beating Tito, but I do want Tito to win, I just think the smart money is on Rashad. How awesome would it be to see Tito back on top after almost falling completely out of the bottom? Pretty awesome.

I'm taking Sexyama over Vitor. I havent been impressed with Vitor in ten years. His chin straight up from the chest punches just don't work that well against trained fighters anymore, but I will give him props, he was a force back when everyone was still basically half-trained or only trained in a single art.

Ebersole over Hallman. Ebersole looks like a goof-ball, no doubt about it, but the guy impressed me in his last fight.

Hamill over Gustafsson. Why they are feeding this kid to Hamill I'm not really sure, I guess just to put Hamill back in the win column.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on August 05, 2011, 05:27:33 PM
How awesome would it be to see Tito back on top after almost falling completely out of the bottom? Pretty awesome.


Not awesome at all.  Tito is a douchebag and I have reveled in every moment of his descent.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 05, 2011, 05:52:31 PM
How awesome would it be to see Tito back on top after almost falling completely out of the bottom? Pretty awesome.


Not awesome at all.  Tito is a douchebag and I have reveled in every moment of his descent.

Amen, brother.

(Sue me, I heard that lame ass Hulk Hogan and Troy Aikman commercial three times on the way to work today from Rent-A-Center.)

I think this IS one of the douchiest cards though. In terms of douchers. The only thing that would level out its douchebaggery in terms of personalities would be to fit Rampage on the bill somehow. Tito, Vitor, Sexyama even at times (I've read interviews, anyway), and Rampage? Maaaan. Whew. Too bad. Oh. Fit the Diaz brothers in, too. I think a black hole would all of a sudden manifest and ...

I'm done, really. I just like to pick. Though, Tito is like the biggest douche of them all. Go Rashad!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 05, 2011, 08:32:44 PM
How awesome would it be to see Tito back on top after almost falling completely out of the bottom? Pretty awesome.


Not awesome at all.  Tito is a douchebag and I have reveled in every moment of his descent.

Tito is absolutely a douchebag. Without a doubt. The man is a huge douchebag. But, it makes him FUN to hate. I dont "like" Tito, but I love having him around to hate. I always want to see what his next stupid shirt is going to say, or what he is going to pop off to piss someone off.

Like it or not, this is entertainment, is it a sport? Absolutely, but it is also entertainment. My trainers preach this, you have to remember that the promoters dont care how good of a fighter you are, they care about your ability to sell tickets.

Thats the name of the fight game. Selling tickets, and on the higher levels, pay-per-views. Guys like Tito sell tickets because people love to see them get their ass kicked, or love to see them pop off smartass stuff because its funny, or it gets them up in arms and angry, you get the picture.

We almost lost one of the great douchebags of the sport. The sport needs guys like Tito and Tito is one of the best.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 06, 2011, 05:24:08 PM
Prelims start on Facebook in 20 minutes.

Then on Spike at 5pm PST.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on August 07, 2011, 01:14:46 PM
Last fight of the night was very entertaining. Standing rear naked choke, spinning backfist, flying knee strike... for the loss.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 12, 2011, 03:37:35 PM
I've got Rashad beating Tito, but I do want Tito to win, I just think the smart money is on Rashad. How awesome would it be to see Tito back on top after almost falling completely out of the bottom? Pretty awesome.

I'm taking Sexyama over Vitor. I havent been impressed with Vitor in ten years. His chin straight up from the chest punches just don't work that well against trained fighters anymore, but I will give him props, he was a force back when everyone was still basically half-trained or only trained in a single art.

Ebersole over Hallman. Ebersole looks like a goof-ball, no doubt about it, but the guy impressed me in his last fight.

Hamill over Gustafsson. Why they are feeding this kid to Hamill I'm not really sure, I guess just to put Hamill back in the win column.



My words, I eat them.

Vitor dominated, I was impressed. Good job Vitor. Sexyama, you are a nice guy, but dang man, win one for Japan already.

Ebersole with that goofy chest hair. When Hallman showed off his panties he was going to fight in the entire bar I was in started laughing so hard it was rediculous. It made it ten times more hilarious when Ebersole beat him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 18, 2011, 01:17:36 PM
Way to go, Dana.  You're selling my favorite pastime to a corporate conglomorate of shit.

:( Fuck Fox. We're gonna see quality swandive in favor of smoke and mirrors.

A sad day for the sport, my friends.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on August 18, 2011, 03:26:51 PM
Way to go, Dana.  You're selling my favorite pastime to a corporate conglomorate of shit.

:( Fuck Fox. We're gonna see quality swandive in favor of smoke and mirrors.

A sad day for the sport, my friends.

I hate to break it to you, but the UFC has been in deals with Fox since at least 2002.  Virtually the entire era of modern UFC (that is, Zuffa-owned) has taken place in the context of deals with Fox.

Anyone remember UFC 37.5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_37.5)?  Lots of old UFC fights get aired on Fox Sports Net, too.

Don't get your groin protector in a wad about it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 18, 2011, 03:50:24 PM
Oh, I get it, but watching the Press conference they're going from 'dealing with' to getting right in bed with them. Fox, as a whole, is a turd, imho. FFS, these are the assholes that cancelled Firefly and Family Guy!

Not a fan, but if they don't shit all over mma, I'll gladly eat my words.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 10:58:09 AM
Of course I have Silva over Okami.

Then I have Griffin over Shogun.

One thing that worries/bothers me about Griffin is a recent interview (I can not find the link now, gah, it just came out yesterday and I have lost it) he basically says he doesn't have any heart to fight anymore.

The worst part is, I kind of get exactly where he is coming from. He said that there was a time when he was living on a mattress in his coach's house and fighting was his way out of his problems. He needed the money then, he was alone, and fighting was his road out of his emotional and financial troubles. Basically, he was "hungry" then.

He goes on to explain that now he has a wife he loves, a nice home, money in the bank, his family is taken care of, and he is very happy with his life. So, when he wakes up every morning he does not want to go fight to forget his troubles, or train to better himself, he is very happy and so sometimes the desire to go be a fighter just isn't there. He also stated that he knows he isn't getting any better as a fighter, if anything, he is getting worse. And this was not the typical funny self-depriciating Forrest we all know and love, it was a serious sad Forrest.

This makes me sad because I like Forrest. I think his loss to Tito in their first fight was the fight that really made me like him. He was battered and bloody but he wasn't beaten, no matter what he refused to stop fighting. (I thought his first win against Bonnar wasn't nearly as impressive personally, even though everyone credits that fight for putting MMA on the map.)

I think success, happiness, and being content makes men soft. I have seen it personally in my own life. You get a woman that loves you, a job that takes good care of you, a lifestyle that is easily maintained and comfortable, and then, you get soft. Emotionally, and usually physically. You lose that inner anger and semi-depression that drives you to continue to succeed in the most primal sense of the word. When the world is treating you good, you just do not have that little spark inside of you that screams, "Fuck you world, I will show you." I think success is the absolute worst thing that can happen to a lot of fighters, be it in their personal lives or in their career, but I think its worst in their personal lives.

I think women make you weak. (Edited to Add: That might have sounded a little harsh. I think women make you happy, and happy men are not fighting men. There, fixed.)

Examples?

Matt Hughes, loving wife, career went down hill.

Forrest Griffin, loving wife, doesn't even want to be a fighter anymore.

Randy Couture, loving wife (who then divorced him) career went into a slight slump, then he gets single and comes back to kick some butt in his later years.

BJ Penn, dominated like you wouldn't believe, gets a longterm girlfriend, she has a child in 2008, career goes down hill.

Tito Ortiz, was the most dominant light-heavyweight champion of all time, gets married, has twins, career goes into the tubes.

GSP, no loving wife, dominates like a mad animal.

The exception to the rule would be Anderson Silva I think, but, he has a very unique background that sets him apart from the rest of the crowd.

Micky from Rocky said it best, "Women weaken legs."

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on August 24, 2011, 11:24:50 AM
Fedor was married basically his entire career.

Manny Pacquiao is married and has 4 kids.

Jose Aldo is married.

Vitor Belfort is married.

Wanderlei married twice.

Rampage is married with 4 kids.

I hate to break it to you, but Forrest Griffin was never really that good at fighting.  Endurance and a very tough chin can take you a pretty long way, but you can't keep fighting like that for very long.  He's probably sick of fighting because he gets his ass beat to shit in just about every fight, whether he wins or loses.

He seems like a pretty cool guy, I guess, but I watch it for the art, skill, and athleticism, not for the personalities.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 12:22:17 PM
Fedor was married basically his entire career.

And he could never cut it in the UFC.  ;)

Manny Pacquiao is married and has 4 kids.

Boxers are not fighters.

Jose Aldo is married.

Hmm, touche.

Vitor Belfort is married.

And his career is not actually very stellar. Though his last win impressed me.

Wanderlei married twice.

I love Wandy, but again, not a very stellar career honestly. And his current wife is not his forever wife, he was married before. Maybe his pride glory days were between marriages? I know his UFC glory days never really came to be.

Rampage is married with 4 kids.

He is also a major thorn in my "Lost his heart to fight." side. I feel bad when I see the Rampage of today stacked up against the Rampage of Pride. They are not the same man. He has also gotten comfortable. He seems to be on an upswing of late though. I hope he continues to do well and not fall back into a slump.

I hate to break it to you, but Forrest Griffin was never really that good at fighting.  Endurance and a very tough chin can take you a pretty long way, but you can't keep fighting like that for very long.  He's probably sick of fighting because he gets his ass beat to shit in just about every fight, whether he wins or loses.

I know, Clay Guida is the exact same way. But, thats why you have to love those guys. Everyone knows Forrest Griffin is not a good fighter, everyone knows that Clay Guida is not a good fighter, but, they are FIGHTERS, and thats why we love them. If they lose that, they are just, guys. This is the part that makes me sad.

He seems like a pretty cool guy, I guess, but I watch it for the art, skill, and athleticism, not for the personalities.

I wake up eating the art, skill, and athleticism, I go to sleep thinking about it. I live it several days a week. Sometimes, I just want to sit back and enjoy the drama of the fight game. *shrugs* The fighter mindset is very interesting to me because I see guys in my gym who are extremely driven, but not very talented, and I see guys who are very talented, but not very driven.


Also, its not like this is an exact science lol. These are just my thoughts based on what I have seen and my own personal experiences.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2011, 12:30:28 PM
I'm sorry, but if you don't think Manny would dominate someone in the UFC ... I can think of a handful of fighters that would be decimated by Manny!

Also... Randy Couture, fyi, has been married like 4 times. ;) To blame his spiral downward on anything other than just ... age, and wear and tear, is silly.

Also, Rampage has/had been cheating on his wife recently, and she left him. I think I would maybe blame that for his lack of good performance than being or getting married. That was all his fault. Also, he's a chauvinist pig -- I read an article where he said, "MAN I LOVE DEM JAPANESE WOMEN. THEY GIVE YOU ALL THEY GOT, THEY FALL IN LOVE SO EASY, ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS BONE THEM. blahblahblah."

I think that maybe it's the MONEY that makes fighters just sort of ... lose heart after a while. You make so much money, you write books, you do all of these things, you get to the point where you have enough money where you don't want for anything ... then you're like, "Why risk my life, my physical being, my everything, when I have a cushy bunch of money in the bank, a nice house, and can provide for my family for a long time now?"

Yeah... Yeah.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 12:36:18 PM
I'm sorry, but if you don't think Manny would dominate someone in the UFC ... I can think of a handful of fighters that would be decimated by Manny!

Anyone who has no ground game would be decimated by Manny, without a doubt. Anyone with a ground game would own him.

Also... Randy Couture, fyi, has been married like 4 times. ;) To blame his spiral downward on anything other than just ... age, and wear and tear, is silly.

Meh, Captain America doesn't age.

Also, Rampage has/had been cheating on his wife recently, and she left him. I think I would maybe blame that for his lack of good performance than being or getting married. That was all his fault. Also, he's a chauvinist pig -- I read an article where he said, "MAN I LOVE DEM JAPANESE WOMEN. THEY GIVE YOU ALL THEY GOT, THEY FALL IN LOVE SO EASY, ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS BONE THEM. blahblahblah."

If he had never got married, he never would have cheated...meh, I dont even believe this myself though the impulse to debate it for the sake of it is pretty strong. Point Boog.

I think that maybe it's the MONEY that makes fighters just sort of ... lose heart after a while. You make so much money, you write books, you do all of these things, you get to the point where you have enough money where you don't want for anything ... then you're like, "Why risk my life, my physical being, my everything, when I have a cushy bunch of money in the bank, a nice house, and can provide for my family for a long time now?"

Yeah, thats kind of where I was going. Just being comfotable in life seems to make fighter's lose their hearts. Its kind of sad. But I do think having a loving partner in your life, someone to live for and who lives for you makes it that much easier to get comfortable and lose that edge.

Yeah... Yeah.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2011, 12:40:18 PM
Well, yeah. But I still would like to see Manny just pop somebody in the face. :O He could probably get high up there, until he went against a wrassler or someone who had elite BJJ.  :-[ :-[ :-[ I do love Manny.

Anyway. I get a point. I win!

Manboog was giggling when I read the exchange between Duke and the Doc. He said Clay Guida needs some "skill enhancements for srs" and that he agrees Wanderlei's never been all that good.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 24, 2011, 01:57:24 PM
Wanderlei's real talent is smashing people's faces... Not the'art' of MMA that we have now. A friend of mine has a grip of old tapes where they were fighting in front of 200 people in middle school gyms in Brazil and... fuck. He was a brutal monster.

Picking Forrest over Shogun is a fool's bet.

I've been praying Silva contracts gonorrhea or something and Okami pulls the upset, but nothing doing...

I'm really just waiting to see GSP and Diaz come October. I fucking -despise- the Diaz brothers and their whole bitch ass crew. GSP lost my backing a few fights back, but he's got me in his corner for this one. Hopefully Diaz will make some poor remarks and we'll see a fire lit under Frenchie's ass instead of the usual drag-assing decisions we've got for the last, what, four years? Bleh.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 03:04:12 PM
Well, yeah. But I still would like to see Manny just pop somebody in the face. :O He could probably get high up there, until he went against a wrassler or someone who had elite BJJ.  :-[ :-[ :-[ I do love Manny.

Anyway. I get a point. I win!

Manboog was giggling when I read the exchange between Duke and the Doc. He said Clay Guida needs some "skill enhancements for srs" and that he agrees Wanderlei's never been all that good.

Well this isn't fair. Its like saying Chuck Liddell was never very good, or that Royce Gracie was never very good.

Its not that they were never very good, its just that their glory days were in a time when the sport was different.

There was a time when Chuck dominated because he was a great counter striker against guy's who had no defense for it. There was a time when Wandy's blizt of crazy fists and his clinch game made him dominate, because noone had a counter for it. There was a time when noone knew anything about BJJ but Royce Gracie and so noone had a counter for it.

There was a time.

I'm sure 25 years from now we will look back and say, "That GSP, he was never that good." Because the sport will keep evolving. We are already doing it to Matt Hughes and Matt isn't even that old yet (not like Chuck and Wandy.)

Its a different sport now than it was ten years ago, but, for the sport of their time Wandy and Chuck and Royce were badasses.

Edited to Add (Because I forgot where I was going apparently): Along these lines, even though I would definately watch a Manny fight, because I like the guy, truthfully, amateur fighters would dominate him in the cage, I wouldn't even want to think about him in the UFC. It would just be a disgrace for a guy who is a good guy. The day of one-dimensional fighters is in the past. You are either pretty good at everything and really good at one thing, or, you lose.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 03:06:23 PM

Picking Forrest over Shogun is a fool's bet.

I'm really just waiting to see GSP and Diaz come October. I fucking -despise- the Diaz brothers and their whole bitch ass crew. GSP lost my backing a few fights back, but he's got me in his corner for this one. Hopefully Diaz will make some poor remarks and we'll see a fire lit under Frenchie's ass instead of the usual drag-assing decisions we've got for the last, what, four years? Bleh.



I know, I know, but I have a bad habit of betting in the corner of the fighters I want to win, instead of the one's I think will win. Forrest will -probably- lose, but, I -want- him to win.

And yes, the Diaz brothers are thug scumbag garbage and I think the world would be a better place if they walked into traffic. I don't even care for GSP that much, but, I want him to smash Diaz into tiny little ghetto-gangster-wannabe pieces.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on August 24, 2011, 03:16:30 PM
lol wut...nobody with any sort of perspective will ever claim that Matt Hughes wasn't extremely talented at what he did.  Nobody will ever make the claim of GSP either, because not only did he beat Hughes at his own game, so far he's taken all challengers and beat them wherever the fight went.  He and Anderson Silva are going to be the archetypes for MMA fighters for the next decade.

The difference between them and Griffin is that Griffin's only talent seems to be not getting knocked out despite taking entirely unreasonable amounts of damage.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 03:29:29 PM
lol wut...nobody with any sort of perspective will ever claim that Matt Hughes wasn't extremely talented at what he did.  Nobody will ever make the claim of GSP either, because not only did he beat Hughes at his own game, so far he's taken all challengers and beat them wherever the fight went.  He and Anderson Silva are going to be the archetypes for MMA fighters for the next decade.

Which is exactly what I said, but in 25 years, let's see if that is still the case. You and I are in violent agreement. I have this debate constantly with people who say "Chuck always sucked." or "Hughes always sucked." or "Wandy always sucked." No, it was just a different sport then. The sport is still very very very young and it is evolving constantly, and will continue to evolve along with the fighters.

The difference between them and Griffin is that Griffin's only talent seems to be not getting knocked out despite taking entirely unreasonable amounts of damage.

I guess because I fight in a similar fashion I am endeared to him somewhat. I am not the most technical fighter, on my feet or on the ground, I am a grinder. My goal is to out last the other guy until he finally makes a mistake. I am good enough to be dangerous enough to capitalize on a moment of weakness and win. I will never be that guy who dominates someone with my wrestling or pulls Matrix moves on his feet. (GSP and Silva). I have this odd impulse, that I sometimes go through with, to just drop my hands and let the guy hit me, especially if I am on the ground on my back,  so that I can FEEL like I am in a fight, and then I'm good to go. I sort of enjoy seeing how much I can take in training just so I know. Its one of those things where you are like, "I have been there, I have felt that, its no big deal, lets get on with what we are about now." Its hard to explain.  
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on August 24, 2011, 06:38:36 PM
I wouldn't bother continuing to argue with anyone who said something as patently absurd as "Matt Hughes always sucked."

I think he's a colossal douche, and I don't really enjoy watching wrestlers do their thing, but even I can admit that he (and Sean Sherk) are fantastically good at being wet blankets.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2011, 09:40:52 PM
I wouldn't bother continuing to argue with anyone who said something as patently absurd as "Matt Hughes always sucked."

I think he's a colossal douche, and I don't really enjoy watching wrestlers do their thing, but even I can admit that he (and Sean Sherk) are fantastically good at being wet blankets.

I had a friend who said he knew someone who was sexually abused by Matt Hughes. I agree, he was a douche, but he was unstoppable back in the day. Just like how BJ Penn was. Rampage was.

But then, there's also that fine line of "was". Because, you look back at Randy and you say, "He -was- great." Even with his losses, he still is such a potent figure and a pop culture icon of MMA, if you will. It's just ... I dunno.

Forrest -was- good at getting his face kicked in, until he suffered too much brain trauma and had to quit. Wandy -was- good at overwhelming people, until people stopped being overwhelmed. That's a lot different than, say, Anderson -was- good at being the best and having the most consecutive wins in the UFC, or that GSP was the welterweight title holder for so many years.

That's a lot different, to me.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 10:16:30 PM
I wouldn't bother continuing to argue with anyone who said something as patently absurd as "Matt Hughes always sucked."

I think he's a colossal douche, and I don't really enjoy watching wrestlers do their thing, but even I can admit that he (and Sean Sherk) are fantastically good at being wet blankets.

I had a friend who said he knew someone who was sexually abused by Matt Hughes. I agree, he was a douche, but he was unstoppable back in the day. Just like how BJ Penn was. Rampage was.

But then, there's also that fine line of "was". Because, you look back at Randy and you say, "He -was- great." Even with his losses, he still is such a potent figure and a pop culture icon of MMA, if you will. It's just ... I dunno.

Forrest -was- good at getting his face kicked in, until he suffered too much brain trauma and had to quit. Wandy -was- good at overwhelming people, until people stopped being overwhelmed. That's a lot different than, say, Anderson -was- good at being the best and having the most consecutive wins in the UFC, or that GSP was the welterweight title holder for so many years.

That's a lot different, to me.

Its kind of sad the way it works really. Take Chuck for example, seven wins in a row by knockout wasn't it? He was THE BEST IN THE WORLD!!!! People looked at Chuck then the same way people look at Anderson Silva now.

He loses two, wins one, loses three, and suddenly Chuck was "never really that good."

Eventually, Anderson will lose his edge (if he does not retire on top, which is what I recommend, but, fighters won't do that, it isn't in them, I wouldn't) and he will put together a string of a few losses, probably to dominant wrestlers, and a couple of years after that people will say, "Well, Anderson was only that good because noone had figured out how to counter him with wrestling at the time, but when they did, he wasn't that good."

Forrest isnt comparable, Forrest was never that good, the man was/is just fun to watch in a fight.

GSP is a different sort of guy though, I can see him actually retiring on top. Its his style, I do not see any holes in his gameplan. I can see him keeping up his run for pretty much as long as he wants to.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2011, 10:21:17 PM
But then ... Chuck also wasn't as well rounded as these guys. Talented at knocking guys out, sure! But ... Then, he also was a near alcoholic for years, wasn't he? Especially toward the end? Dana always mentioned Chuck doing better and not 'drinking' anymore and all that. I mean. He seems like a really decent person, but he's never been my type of fighter.

People feel that way about my favorite fighter now, though, so I feel you on that, brotha. It makes me want to cry. Nobody is even talking about his fight this Saturday. :/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 10:24:18 PM
But then ... Chuck also wasn't as well rounded as these guys. Talented at knocking guys out, sure! But ... Then, he also was a near alcoholic for years, wasn't he? Especially toward the end? Dana always mentioned Chuck doing better and not 'drinking' anymore and all that. I mean. He seems like a really decent person, but he's never been my type of fighter.

People feel that way about my favorite fighter now, though, so I feel you on that, brotha. It makes me want to cry. Nobody is even talking about his fight this Saturday. :/

??? Who is your favorite fighter?

(Mine retired, Captain America, the man was an inspiration.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
But then ... Chuck also wasn't as well rounded as these guys. Talented at knocking guys out, sure! But ... Then, he also was a near alcoholic for years, wasn't he? Especially toward the end? Dana always mentioned Chuck doing better and not 'drinking' anymore and all that. I mean. He seems like a really decent person, but he's never been my type of fighter.

People feel that way about my favorite fighter now, though, so I feel you on that, brotha. It makes me want to cry. Nobody is even talking about his fight this Saturday. :/

??? Who is your favorite fighter?

(Mine retired, Captain America, the man was an inspiration.)

Rodrigo. I would leave manboog for him in an instant. It was like, as soon as he lost to Mir, due to not being fully over his staph infection, everyone sweeps him under the rug. It makes me upset, as he -was- one of the best; you know, to me, at least. The people who watch UFC nowadays don't even know who he is!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 24, 2011, 10:32:10 PM
That's why I'll always root for Chuck. He always carried a few lbs of beer-gut and was just dropping people left and right about the time I really started keeping up with mma.

I will also miss Captain America. :(

Wonder what Overeem will do now...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2011, 10:32:38 PM
That's why I'll always root for Chuck. He always carried a few lbs of beer-gut and was just dropping people left and right about the time I really started keeping up with mma.

I will also miss Captain America. :(

Wonder what Overeem will do now...

Get skinny again since he won't be able to afford the 'horse meat'?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2011, 10:39:40 PM
That's why I'll always root for Chuck. He always carried a few lbs of beer-gut and was just dropping people left and right about the time I really started keeping up with mma.

I will also miss Captain America. :(

Wonder what Overeem will do now...

Get skinny again since he won't be able to afford the 'horse meat'?

*snicker* Oh Boog, you are hoot.  ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 24, 2011, 10:45:12 PM
I'm all for "horse meat" if it raises the level of brutality.

But yeah. Lots of placed have him top five in the world. I'd love to see him get with DS or Cain.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 25, 2011, 12:44:42 AM
Am I seriously the only person who knows Anderson was looking to shut Chael up by submitting him since Chael, before their fight, had talked smack about the Nogueiras?

wtfwtfwtfwtf?

This interview shit is stupid. Chael is so stupid. Okami is so stupid for training with Chael. UGH.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 25, 2011, 09:47:58 AM
Am I seriously the only person who knows Anderson was looking to shut Chael up by submitting him since Chael, before their fight, had talked smack about the Nogueiras?

wtfwtfwtfwtf?

This interview shit is stupid. Chael is so stupid. Okami is so stupid for training with Chael. UGH.

And it only took him four and a half rounds to pull off said submission.

Look, Anderson is a strange guy, maybe that was always his plan, but there is no denying Chael was giving him a bit of a run for his money up until the triangle-turned-armbar halfway through the 4th.

Also, rumor has it Anderson went into that fight with cracked ribs.

I like Chael, he is entertaining. Everyone knows that he does not believe half of the things he says, he is just playing the bad guy, and its usually pretty funny.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 25, 2011, 11:18:23 AM
Am I seriously the only person who knows Anderson was looking to shut Chael up by submitting him since Chael, before their fight, had talked smack about the Nogueiras?

wtfwtfwtfwtf?

This interview shit is stupid. Chael is so stupid. Okami is so stupid for training with Chael. UGH.

And it only took him four and a half rounds to pull off said submission.

Look, Anderson is a strange guy, maybe that was always his plan, but there is no denying Chael was giving him a bit of a run for his money up until the triangle-turned-armbar halfway through the 4th.

Also, rumor has it Anderson went into that fight with cracked ribs.

I like Chael, he is entertaining. Everyone knows that he does not believe half of the things he says, he is just playing the bad guy, and its usually pretty funny.

I don't even wanna talk about him. But, if I were Yushin, I'd be training with someone else. Maybe Chutebox, since Anderson was with them for a while before splitting and making Black House -- and definitely not Chael.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 25, 2011, 12:15:31 PM
Am I seriously the only person who knows Anderson was looking to shut Chael up by submitting him since Chael, before their fight, had talked smack about the Nogueiras?

wtfwtfwtfwtf?

This interview shit is stupid. Chael is so stupid. Okami is so stupid for training with Chael. UGH.

And it only took him four and a half rounds to pull off said submission.

Look, Anderson is a strange guy, maybe that was always his plan, but there is no denying Chael was giving him a bit of a run for his money up until the triangle-turned-armbar halfway through the 4th.

Also, rumor has it Anderson went into that fight with cracked ribs.

I like Chael, he is entertaining. Everyone knows that he does not believe half of the things he says, he is just playing the bad guy, and its usually pretty funny.

I don't even wanna talk about him. But, if I were Yushin, I'd be training with someone else. Maybe Chutebox, since Anderson was with them for a while before splitting and making Black House -- and definitely not Chael.

Oh come on now, you can't tell me that watching the Chael vs Anderson fight you werent on the edge of your seat? That was a pretty exciting fight. It looked like the king was about to be dethroned.

Give Chael his little bit of credit, even if its just a little.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 25, 2011, 03:57:19 PM
Eh. You don't have to be a 'nice guy' or likeable in the slightest to be talented, and Chael Sonnen is definitely talented. I even like his attitude as I'm given to gross exaggeration myself. Okami isn't there to be his chum or get named Godparent. He's there to learn to wreck a mufucka and Chael can do that.

I've heard the theory that Silva was 'playing' with Sonnen the whole match. Hah. He pulled off the submission and credit to him, but for 23.5 minutes he was getting handily thrashed. Even Silva has given credit where it's due. Best fight in the last year, I say. And in the end, isn't what I say the only thing that matters?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 25, 2011, 04:20:08 PM
@dm: I wasn't actually worried at all with anderson versus chael. To me, fighters like him and GSP are the pinnacle of what you can be/accomplish with MMA, like, with pure, nautral born sort of talent. Chael didn't worry me one bit, especially because I am a believer in karma coming around and kicking your ass for being a douche no matter how conditionally talented you might be, a la chael.

Anyway, okami doesn't worry me. Schaub worries me for Nog, buuut... If he does kick nog's ass, at least then I get fodder for my sexual fantasies of licking his wounds and carressing his swarthy, brasilian skin...

Anyway, uh, yeah. People who abuse steroids and are self righteous cocks, talented or not, do not impress or worry me. This is MMA, not wrasslin'.

Sorry in advance for any typos. Posting from my phone @ work!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 25, 2011, 04:25:43 PM
@dm: I wasn't actually worried at all with anderson versus chael. To me, fighters like him and GSP are the pinnacle of what you can be/accomplish with MMA, like, with pure, nautral born sort of talent. Chael didn't worry me one bit, especially because I am a believer in karma coming around and kicking your ass for being a douche no matter how conditionally talented you might be, a la chael.

The girl has faith. You have to admire that.

Anyway, okami doesn't worry me. Schaub worries me for Nog, buuut... If he does kick nog's ass, at least then I get fodder for my sexual fantasies of licking his wounds and carressing his swarthy, brasilian skin...

Ewwww....icky...and ewww.w..ww.w..w.w.w.w.w....ew.....You may be the only girl I have ever seen who has a thing for either Big Nog or Little Nog, those guys are not attractive. WTF is wrong with you? I hear it a lot from chicks about GSP, but Nog? Really? Ewwww.
Anyway, uh, yeah. People who abuse steroids and are self righteous cocks, talented or not, do not impress or worry me. This is MMA, not wrasslin'.

Granted. I don't like Chael, but I like having Chael around, much like Tito. He is good at being around so you can hate him. He is also funny.
Sorry in advance for any typos. Posting from my phone @ work!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 25, 2011, 06:31:59 PM
Random comment: Silva vs Sonnen was not the greatest fight in the past year.

Great fights within the past year off the top of my head that went the distance...
Edgar vs Maynard 2
Bendo vs Jim Miller
Bendo vs Anthony Pettis
Aldo vs Hominick
Cruz vs Faber 2
Sanchez vs Thiago

There's a lot of ways you can judge great fights, but for that list I had two things: It went the full time and it was highly competitive throughout. I highly encourage anyone that hasn't seen some of these to go and watch them.

(http://urdirt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2h6yhrm1.gif)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 25, 2011, 08:28:49 PM
I'm guessing he tapped out right after that?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 25, 2011, 08:37:56 PM
There's a lot of ways you can judge great fights, but for that list I had two things: It went the full time and it was highly competitive throughout. I highly encourage anyone that hasn't seen some of these to go and watch them.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 25, 2011, 09:13:57 PM
I'm guessing he tapped out right after that?

I doubt it, I have never seen a guy tap from a guillotine choke on the top while in side control. I know I can't tap a guy from there, its extremely hard to do even if you have him in half-guard. One of the best ways to defend a guillotine is to pass guard and get to side control actually.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 25, 2011, 09:47:26 PM
Brendan Schaub thinkin' he can keep up with Big Nog on the ground ... yeaaaaaah.

I don't think so.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 25, 2011, 11:24:48 PM
I'm guessing he tapped out right after that?
Sanchez went on to win the decision over Thiago--for the most part dominating the fight. No, he was not tapped on a non-sunk guillotine. The important part of the gif was a screaming madman running with his opponent on his shoulder and slamming him into the canvas.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 26, 2011, 12:24:53 AM
Hah, yeah. That was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 26, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
Brendan Schaub thinkin' he can keep up with Big Nog on the ground ... yeaaaaaah.

I don't think so.

QFT
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 27, 2011, 08:08:20 PM
Vrasilian sweep for the big three fights with the ezception of Forrest. Om nomming at B-Dubs, trying to convert my sister to MMA madness.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 27, 2011, 09:38:39 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 27, 2011, 11:10:05 PM
;D ;D ;D
It looked like he was casting a spell just prior to the laser strike punch.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 27, 2011, 11:26:08 PM
Wow, I can't fucking spell on smart phones, that's for sure. Who said they were smart, anyway?

So, when Big Nog ... yeah. I think I have the highest recorded pregnant woman jump in history. I shrieked like a possessed banshee. The cop that was hanging around (the place we go to is sometimes prone to fights) just stared and shook his head.

Then, I was zen the rest of the night.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on August 27, 2011, 11:46:09 PM
14 and 0 in UFC fights. The Spider is unstoppable.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 29, 2011, 10:48:25 AM
Silva made Okami look like a mentally/physically disabled child, as expected. Nog took a guy out on the feet, which was not expected but I was pleased with the outcome (not as pleased as Boog, but pleased).

Forrest did not look like Forrest, as expected. I am about to give up on him. He was my favorite fighter next to Randy Couture, and so by default got promoted to my favorite fighter when Captain America retired, but, the only reason I liked him was his heart. I never cared if Forrest won or lost, I just cared that Forrest showed up to fight. (Stephan Bonnar is next in line to be my number one guy I guess, he seems to have never lost the never-say-die spirit that Forrest seems to have lost. Clay Guida will always be in my top three, but, he is just not the same to me for some reason.)

That was respectable, and honorable, and he had a good dose of humility even though he was tough as nails and his spirit couldn't be broken.

It seems like he just shows up for a paycheck now.

Silva broke him inside, and this leaves me with a great sadness in my heart. (Seriously, I am sad when I think about it and I don't even really know this guy.)

Forrest Griffin was a model for, "Even if you arent horribly naturally talented, hard work and an indominatable spirit can still take you to the top." Strangely, a lot like Naruto.

Anyways, now he is turning into a model for, "A broken man can not be unbroken."

It has got the point that I am not excited to see him fight anymore, I am kind of afraid because every time he shows up and is not his old self, a little part of me dies inside. 

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 29, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
Bro, it's just martial arts.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 30, 2011, 10:37:17 AM
Bro, it's just martial arts.

Blasphemer!

It's not about making sense. It's about believing in something, and letting that belief be real enough to change your life. It's about faith. You don't fix faith, IsFriday. It fixes you.


(Oh yeah, I went there.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 30, 2011, 08:41:29 PM
So ... MMA is Jesus?!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 30, 2011, 10:29:21 PM
It's just MMA, bro.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 31, 2011, 10:31:18 AM
It's just MMA, bro.

No, Boog said it best, MMA is Jesus.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 16, 2011, 11:33:42 AM
Fight Night tomorrow night on Spike.

While I am not too excited about the card, thats to be expected, its just a Fight Night.

However, for some reason I cant explain like Cody McKenzie, and I hope he pulls out a choke to win.

The most interesting thing I noticed was there are two guys on this card (not fighting each other) and one is named Ellenberger, and the other is named Waldburger.

I really hope Ellenberger and Waldburger do well, only because I want to see a headline fight between Ellenberger and Waldburger.

Battle of the Burgers.

Hmm.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 18, 2011, 01:21:32 AM
Joe Rogan: "He's so slippery!"

 :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 19, 2011, 02:38:54 PM
Joe Rogan: "He's so slippery!"

 :o :o :o

Oh that wiley Joe.

Some of my favorites...(Quoted from memory, I might have them slightly wrong, but you get the picture.)

"Karo Parysian has the best buttocks in Judo."

"If Tyson Griffin was a girl he would have a badonkadonk."

He also said something about, I think it was Eddie Sanchez, about him "free balling." (Wearing no underarmor/cup.)

And one that made me really laugh...

Goldberg said something like, "so and so fighter is like the Michael Jordan of MMA!!!"

Joe Rogan...awkward silence for a good 10 seconds on the air live.

Joe, slowly, "Umm, no, no he's not, nothing like that."

Goldberg, questioning tone his voice, "Uhh, the Scotty Pippen?...."

Joe, again, "No."

Sometimes you can tell that Joe just want to slap Goldie in the face.



I did not expect Shields to go out in the first round.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 19, 2011, 03:24:53 PM
I'm glad he did. I'm not a Jake Shields fan.

And yeah. Goldberg one time was like, "These two kids got out of the streets ... by fighting!" I think it was Nick Diaz versus Melvin Guillard. Yeaaah.

Joe Rogan definitely has some homoerotic tendancies.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Derain on September 20, 2011, 03:57:43 PM
I am patiently waiting for my friend Michael 'mayday' McDonald to get another fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 26, 2011, 01:56:06 PM
Nate Diaz interviews.

 :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on September 26, 2011, 05:13:09 PM
Oh. Shit!

CUNG LE. Gonna be fighting Wanderlei at 139. I am sooooooo fired up. He's one of my favorite fighters. I can't wait to see him in action again.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 26, 2011, 07:58:39 PM
Oh. Shit!

CUNG LE. Gonna be fighting Wanderlei at 139. I am sooooooo fired up. He's one of my favorite fighters. I can't wait to see him in action again.

That seems like such a GIMME! I mean, Wandy...? Nowadays...? Bleeeeh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on September 26, 2011, 08:12:06 PM
I figure they threw him to the wolf y'know. Poor ole Wanderlei is on his way out. Cung Le is like 39 already though and I haven't seen him perform in awhile. Maybe he's slipping too.

But I loved seeing him stomp Frank into mush. He won my support forever.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 26, 2011, 08:20:48 PM
I figure they threw him to the wolf y'know. Poor ole Wanderlei is on his way out. Cung Le is like 39 already though and I haven't seen him perform in awhile. Maybe he's slipping too.

But I loved seeing him stomp Frank into mush. He won my support forever.

Who doesn't like seeing anyone with the last name "Shamrock" curbstomped? 8)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 02, 2011, 12:54:17 AM
I thought the Johnson v. Brenneman stoppage was fair. He was so wobbled, BEFORE the facekick...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 02, 2011, 12:55:34 AM
I thought the Johnson v. Brenneman stoppage was fair. He was so wobbled, BEFORE the facekick...
He landed on his elbows, dude. You don't do that when you're knocked out. C'mon.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on October 02, 2011, 07:15:19 PM
I thought the Johnson v. Brenneman stoppage was fair. He was so wobbled, BEFORE the facekick...
He landed on his elbows, dude. You don't do that when you're knocked out. C'mon.

I didn't see the fight, so I can't comment on the particulars of that.

However, the rule isn't "knocked out."  It's "unable to intelligently defend yourself."

Leaving aside the snark as to whether or not some fighters meet that criterion before they step into the octagon, it's clearly possible to be concussed so badly that the only possible outcome is further brain injury, even while technically remaining conscious.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on October 02, 2011, 07:48:52 PM
I've got no problem with the stoppage. It was pretty savage and it would rapidly have gotten even worse.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 02, 2011, 08:16:40 PM
I've got no problem with the stoppage. It was pretty savage and it would rapidly have gotten even worse.

That's definitely how I felt.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 03, 2011, 01:31:57 AM
I've got no problem with the stoppage. It was pretty savage and it would rapidly have gotten even worse.
Lesnar vs. Carwin
Edgar vs. Maynard 2
Kongo vs. Barry

... should have probably been stopped before the finish, too. But they weren't, and they led to some of the greatest moments in MMA in the past year.

Not to take anything away from the 220lb man somehow cutting weight to 170 (Rumble,) because he was definitely controlling the whole fight up to that point. It's just that Chuck was fully coherent and wasn't receiving the hammerfist flurry that usually signals the end of such a situation.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 06, 2011, 01:13:17 AM
Cyborg is fighting again in December! Whoooo! Who wants to watch lilboog so mommy and daddy can go out for a date night?!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 08, 2011, 02:51:55 PM
My boy Joey is fighting tonight. He's the last fight on the Facebook prelims. (Free!) Starts at 3pm on UFC's facebook page, then it goes to the free fights on TV. Then main card on PPV.

Joey's phone video of him dicking around during the expo:
http://youtu.be/z3qzItWMlyQ


Matchups for Main Card:
UFC Lightweight Championship
Gray Maynard (No. 3 LW) vs. Frankie Edgar (No. 1 LW, No. 4 PFP)

UFC Featherweight Championship
Jose Aldo (No. 1 FW, No. 3 PFP) vs. Kenny Florian (No. 4 FW)

Chael Sonnen vs. Brian Stann
Melvin Guillard vs. Joe Lauzon
Nam Phan vs. Leonard Garcia

Prelims on Spike:
Jeremy Stephens vs. Anthony Pettis
Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago

Facebook Prelims:
Stipe Miocic vs. Joey Beltran
Steve Cantwell vs. Mike Massenzio
Aaron Simpson vs. Eric Schafer
Tiequan Zhang vs. Darren Elkins
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 08, 2011, 03:17:59 PM
I always get excited for you when I see Joey! And then I imagine him teaching the kids at the gym. 8)

My picks:

Beltran, Massenzio, not sure about the other prelims - I need to look them up before they start. Even though I think Guillard's a weiner, I'm going with him over Lauzon and I'm goin' with Nam Phan over Garcia! I'm picking Santiago over Maia, unless Maia has vastly improved being a well-rounded fighter, and because Santiago's birthday is babyboog's due date (which is tomorrow!). Hah.

Aldo over Florian, most definitely. I love Kenny, but I do not see him winning this fight at all.

And ... Edgar vs. Maynard #3? I'm about to say who cares, but I hope someone showed up ready to do something outside the normalcy of their last fights.

Also, for east coast people, the prelims start at 6:10pm on Facebook. IF got me all excited that they were starting mega early. Then, I cried!

Edit: I hate Sonnen so much I forgot about him. I hope Stann beats his face in.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 08, 2011, 05:30:59 PM
I'm particularly excited for Stann, Pettis, and Joey to beat some faces in.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on October 08, 2011, 07:34:49 PM
Aldo aldo aldo aldo....

Can't decide if I care enough to get off my ass and go watch or if napping some more would be the ticket.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 08, 2011, 07:58:28 PM
Aldo aldo aldo aldo....

Can't decide if I care enough to get off my ass and go watch or if napping some more would be the ticket.

Manboog won't take me to B-Dubs. Nor will he take me to get some fuckin' chicken wings since I'm allowing him to be a homebody tonight. Fucker!

http://mmatko.com

^They usually have the fights up after a while (usually 1-2am EST) if you wanna snooze, WP.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on November 12, 2011, 09:48:31 PM
FFS, I waited an hour for that?  Fucking heavyweights, man.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 12, 2011, 09:56:38 PM
I have to wait to see it because I don't have Foooooooooooox. My TV won't get any channels, apparently.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 12, 2011, 10:07:45 PM
Yeah. I hate Fox.

But it was nice to see ole Brown Pride take a beating. Dos is the man.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 12, 2011, 10:08:45 PM
He's so nice!  :D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 20, 2011, 02:10:02 AM
He's so nice!  :D

He is the sweetest. If I ever meet him (I really want to go to an Expo for a present. ((WHICH I DESERVE.)) Someday.) I am going to just give him a big hug and a kiss. I'm good at getting kisses from famous people. And then I'm going to tell him what a darling he is.

And, um, am I the only person who thinks Hendo needs a lesson in etiquette? In the ring, he is like the fighting version of Chael out of the ring: pure douche.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 02, 2011, 10:22:36 PM
Bisping's obviously taking this seriously.

Coming in overweight and stuff.

I hope Mayhem creams him. He's a little whiner.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 03, 2011, 12:05:40 PM
Bisping's obviously taking this seriously.

Coming in overweight and stuff.

I hope Mayhem creams him. He's a little whiner.
More than likely going to be a Bisbing decision but I'm a big Mayhem fan, obviously. (player pics)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 09, 2011, 08:37:30 PM
Picks:

Lil Nog over Ortiz
Big Nog over Mir (even though I love both of them. Frank Mir is hilarious, but Big Nog is forever my favorite and thus, I must root only for him!)
Jones over Machida
I'm mixed on Ebersole vs. Patrick, 'cos manboog's from La Porte and so isn't Ebersole ... which makes sense. You do stupid things like shave your body hair into an arrow if you're from there. But, Patrick was tazed, brah!
Hominick over the Korean Zombie

I'm gonna go look up a few on the prelims and what have you that I don't know. but for the main card, those are mah picks.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 11, 2011, 12:22:28 AM
idon'twannatalkaboutit
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 11, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
idon'twannatalkaboutit

Yes...yessss...your Butt-Hurt is delicious.

Give me your tears.

Dat Shoulder.....

(To be fair, it isn't Mir's fault, Big Nog knew that shoulder was about to go, but he refused to tap until after he felt it snap. He gets some major "tough" points, sure, but, that gets balanced out by his lack of smart points. I just hope he doesn't require reconstructive surgery on that thing, that was a pretty sick dislocation.)

You don't play tough when a 265lb BJJ blackbelt has you locked up in a kimura, what was he thinking? Shame too, I like both of the Nog's.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 11, 2011, 02:01:42 PM
IF HE WOULD HAVE JUST STAYED STANDING AND PUNCHED MIR A FEW MORE FUCKING TIMES I SWEAR TO GOD

I jumped up and down when Mir buckled and then almost cried and couldn't watch the replays of Nog's fucking arm. And then I got made fun of all fuckin' night.

Though, the funniest joke occurred this morning in my household. I woke up and asked if manboog had watched the post-fight interviews and he said, "Yeah."
"So, Big Nog wasn't there?"
"Neither was Tito. They were both in the hospital."
"Oh. What's the verdict?"
"Well, Nog's arm and then Tito's got busted ribs and an infected tear duct."
"Seriously?"
"No, but he sure did cry enough."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on December 11, 2011, 10:29:42 PM
Nog is dumb.  He could have tapped 50 times before he had every tendon and ligament shredded in his arm.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 12, 2011, 12:01:53 AM
I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT



 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 12, 2011, 01:43:41 PM
I DON'T WANNA TALK ABOUT IT



 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

A cruel and heartless Desertman has arrived for the north, wielding the source of your sorrows.

(http://imgboot.com/images/jason4k/fc140fmirsubmitanog.gif)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on December 12, 2011, 03:36:04 PM
Boog, if you don't want to see an xray of Nog's broken arm, then don't look at this picture.

(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/917408/469883841_medium.jpg)

Nog, you dummy.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 12, 2011, 04:38:37 PM
Thats an interesting break from a kimura. Nog must have one stout shoulder for his humerus to snap before his shoulder went out.

I know a couple of guys who have had to have shoulder reconstruction from getting locked up in kimuras in BJJ tournaments and not tapping but I have never heard of a guy's humerus snapping from a kimura.

Maybe it had to do with the way Frank's hip was pressing against Nog's shoulder, it might have provided an unnatural (as natural as having your arm twisted can be I mean) point of pressure or something for the technique.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on December 12, 2011, 06:20:59 PM
I suspect there was plenty of tissue damage accompanying that fracture.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 12, 2011, 07:10:16 PM
Thats an interesting break from a kimura. Nog must have one stout shoulder for his humerus to snap before his shoulder went out.

I know a couple of guys who have had to have shoulder reconstruction from getting locked up in kimuras in BJJ tournaments and not tapping but I have never heard of a guy's humerus snapping from a kimura.

Maybe it had to do with the way Frank's hip was pressing against Nog's shoulder, it might have provided an unnatural (as natural as having your arm twisted can be I mean) point of pressure or something for the technique.

It also might have been part of the reason he didn't tap.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on December 12, 2011, 08:12:32 PM
Pretty standard kumura from north south.  Set it up in side control and move to north south, bringing a leg over his head for base and leverage.  Nog is a bjj black belt.  Nothing about that surprised him or prevented him from tapping or yelling.  He was just being a stubborn Brazilian hardass.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 13, 2012, 12:15:10 PM
I spent last night chasing a 6'8 thai kickboxer with 60 lbs on me and getting my face/body smashed in by him. The frusteration involved in that scenario is just, irritating, to put it lightly.

There is just no reasonable way to fight a guy that tall unless you are also that tall. You just have to be prepared to take some damage to get inside and hope he is isnt prone to running, which this guy was.

Run, run, stop, throw long shots, run, run, stop, throw long shots. I felt like I was running track trying to get to that guy, not fighting him.

Any shots you throw to the head are just going to leave you so over-extended and open for counters, you have to over-extend just to reach his head. That leaves you with a fair opening for body shots, but, lets be real here, you have to really swat a guy to make him respect a body shot, and in training, you don't want to be that guy who goes at 100%, you get labeled the jerk trying to hurt people. To that end you are still on the receiving end of 80% power headshots, and those aren't fun even at 80%.

I'm just, frusterated. I spent an hour trying to figure out something that would work, nothing did. After the fact I get with one of the trainers, and he really knows his stuff, and the only answer I got was, "Cover up, try to get inside, and be ready to take some hits." Well yeah, look at my face, I figured that out on my own bud.

No matter what you do, that just isn't going to be a good time for you.

(Yes I know, the ideal situation is to get the guy to the ground where his height doesn't matter, but this was Muy Thai training, no takedowns. Its at times like this you have to realize that you do have your own preset limits, and I guess it just sucks having to look those limits in the face and accept them. No real point to this post I guess, its just, even after a long nights sleep I am still kind of irritated about this.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 13, 2012, 12:49:40 PM
Don't fight big-ass people :P

I'm sure it was a very good lesson to learn though. Chin up dude. You'll probably never need that experience in real life, but, if you do; You'll go into it knowing your limits and options.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on January 13, 2012, 12:57:26 PM
You probably want to keep your chin down most of the time, in that situation.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 13, 2012, 01:07:19 PM
lol
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 13, 2012, 02:50:46 PM
lol cris cyborg
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 14, 2012, 08:19:55 PM
ufc ... nfl music ... fx ... what the heck
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 14, 2012, 08:58:54 PM
That's the Fox Sports BS, since FX is owned by Fox.

p.s. Gonzaga is gonna die.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 14, 2012, 10:34:07 PM
That's the Fox Sports BS, since FX is owned by Fox.

p.s. Gonzaga is gonna die.

didn't!! napao is back!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 15, 2012, 12:01:09 AM
lol

That was a crazy ass PPV. It was THE NIGHT for Brazilians. Some crazy critical hits, fosho.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 15, 2012, 12:32:57 AM
lol

That was a crazy ass PPV. It was THE NIGHT for Brazilians. Some crazy critical hits, fosho.

SOME PEOPLES' ENDURANCE WAS WORTHLESS THO --

Uh. Mike Pyle won. At least.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on January 15, 2012, 12:56:42 AM
You just have to be prepared to take some damage to get inside and hope he is isnt prone to running, which this guy was.

I'd say this was your problem here.  Sounds like he was baiting you.

Kind of a jerk move from a guy with such a physical advantage.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 15, 2012, 02:18:23 AM
Not really. Sounds like Desertman learned a valuable lesson, though.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 15, 2012, 03:20:41 AM
It's not a jerk move to use every advantage you have to win.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 15, 2012, 09:15:57 AM
You're not really... competing, when sparring.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on January 15, 2012, 02:53:08 PM
Not really. Sounds like Desertman learned a valuable lesson, though.

Yeahp, still think it would have been a better fight in a real match.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 15, 2012, 04:51:37 PM
You're not really... competing, when sparring.

OH.

I wasn't paying attention to the sparring part. I just saw that a big dude kicked D-man's ass.

The baby was ... crying, yeah, crying, while I was reading ... yeah. Yeah.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 17, 2012, 10:30:12 AM

I just saw that a big dude kicked D-man's ass.


Because I'm still sore about this days later, I just want to clarify....sparring match.

I also want to clarify, Muy Thai training...no takedowns or ground game allowed. Stand up only. (The taller guy always has the advantage.)



I'd say this was your problem here.  Sounds like he was baiting you.


Its really pretty basic. He can stand back and bait me and keep me at the end of his much longer jab/kick. I can stand back and try to bait him, which doesn't work when he has the ability to just hit me with his much longer jab/kick.

Its a lose lose situation really. I've thought about, thought about, and thought about it.

I even took the guy aside after the fact and talked to him about it to get him to help me out with someone his size. He said everyone has that sort of trouble with him because noone is really as tall as him.

He wasn't trying to be a jerk. I don't know any jerks at my gym, he's just doing what he does best.

(Granted, he doesn't come to anything but Muy Thai training, so, he has no ground game. He's one of those people who only focus on one thing they are comfortable with (see good at) so he will always have huge holes in his game, but then again, he doesn't want to fight, he just shows up to train and have fun, so, good for him, enjoy dude.)

I'm done ranting. I'm going to leave this behind me now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Dalmeth on January 17, 2012, 12:29:30 PM
Know it's done, but I have my final comments.

Its a lose lose situation really. I've thought about, thought about, and thought about it.

Not really, but thinking about it isn't going to help much at this point.  Gotta get more of something before you'll shake that guy out of his apathy.

I don't mean to say you'll necessarily win, but you'll probably feel better about it.

Only reason I can imagine your trainers would keep the fella around, anyhow.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 17, 2012, 03:57:02 PM

I just saw that a big dude kicked D-man's ass.


Because I'm still sore about this days later, I just want to clarify....sparring match.

I also want to clarify, Muy Thai training...no takedowns or ground game allowed. Stand up only. (The taller guy always has the advantage.)

But, I still love you, bb. <3
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 17, 2012, 04:11:19 PM
You can learn something from everyone, no matter their skill level -- or if they're a douchebag.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 28, 2012, 06:40:29 AM
I am so sick of listening to Nick Diaz bitch about not getting paid enough, about not loving to fight ... Christ. This last interview makes me just wanna poke his frigging eyes out.

I'm so excited for the free fights tonight, though!!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 28, 2012, 11:03:24 AM
Joey fights tonight again. I don't have Fuel TV, though. I'm going to have to figure out a way to see the fight.....

I'm picking Rashad over Phil. I think his boxing is too good and Phil won't be able to take him down.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 28, 2012, 03:18:14 PM
I really like that Fuel TV (just added it to my plan so I could watch all the UFC biz,) has pre-show/post-show stuff. It makes me feel like UFC is a real sport.  :D

Prior to now all I've had is Sherdog Radio. (Probably still going to listen to that, though.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 28, 2012, 07:40:23 PM
Joey fights tonight again. I don't have Fuel TV, though. I'm going to have to figure out a way to see the fight.....

I'm picking Rashad over Phil. I think his boxing is too good and Phil won't be able to take him down.

I am, as well. It should be a good match!

I hope Chael bites it. UGH. I can not articulate how much I loathe him. UGH. UGH. UGH. I'm just sorry Munoz couldn't whallop him. I can settle for Bisping, though I ain't sure how well he's gonna do on only a week+ notice.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 28, 2012, 09:17:12 PM
Absolute fucking bullshit. Absolute fucking bullshit decision.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on January 29, 2012, 03:42:08 PM
Chael is the man, he doesn't give a fuck.  Did you see Joe Rogan trying not to crack up during his 'interview' after the fight?  Hilarious.

I want to know what kind of conditioner he uses, his hair is mesmerizing.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 29, 2012, 03:56:12 PM
Chael is the man, he doesn't give a fuck.  Did you see Joe Rogan trying not to crack up during his 'interview' after the fight?  Hilarious.

I want to know what kind of conditioner he uses, his hair is mesmerizing.



I once thought I loved you.

I no longer do.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on January 30, 2012, 11:00:29 AM
Don't give up on me, boog. We will get the magic back.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 30, 2012, 11:44:28 AM

I hope Chael bites it. UGH. I can not articulate how much I loathe him. UGH. UGH. UGH. I'm just sorry Munoz couldn't whallop him. I can settle for Bisping, though I ain't sure how well he's gonna do on only a week+ notice.

Boog, his goal is to be extremely amusing to the people who realize he is just trying to be amusing (me for example) and to make the people who don't realize that hate him with a passion. (You, well, you might realize it, but, you still hate him.)

He knows you want to see him get his face stomped in. He knows you will be there watching when the time comes, hoping he will get the crap kicked out of him. The key here, is he knows you will be watching...his fights will get viewers, he will make millions, he still wins.

You are on the Chael Train....if you like it or not.... 8)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on January 30, 2012, 12:09:24 PM
Honey badger.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 30, 2012, 07:34:58 PM

I hope Chael bites it. UGH. I can not articulate how much I loathe him. UGH. UGH. UGH. I'm just sorry Munoz couldn't whallop him. I can settle for Bisping, though I ain't sure how well he's gonna do on only a week+ notice.

Boog, his goal is to be extremely amusing to the people who realize he is just trying to be amusing (me for example) and to make the people who don't realize that hate him with a passion. (You, well, you might realize it, but, you still hate him.)

He knows you want to see him get his face stomped in. He knows you will be there watching when the time comes, hoping he will get the crap kicked out of him. The key here, is he knows you will be watching...his fights will get viewers, he will make millions, he still wins.

You are on the Chael Train....if you like it or not.... 8)

No, see. If I had a gun on me and Chael Sonnen was walking down the street, I would shoot him in the penis. And then the mouth. I don't watch his antics (except indirectly when they cut to his blabbermouthing) and I could give a shit less about his fights except that I DO want him to get seriously injured every time he fights. I don't watch the cards JUST to see his fights or JUST because I hope he loses. I watch the cards because most of the time, he fights on a card with fighters I like (this past one being Glass Chin Rashad! Er, I mean Suga.)

I hope Anderson 'Rich Franklins' Chael this time. The last time was slow since he just wanted to show off his jiu jitsu since Chael gravely insulted the Nogueiras. Oh, and I'll be watching because I like Anderson and hope he rapes face -- not because I dislike (haaaaaaaaaaaate) Chael. ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2012, 08:35:49 PM
Sounds to me like exactly what DM is talking about...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 30, 2012, 08:40:21 PM
Sounds to me like exactly what DM is talking about...

I know. I was teasing.

wtb way to exude tone over interwebz
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 30, 2012, 08:46:08 PM
Hah. Probably just me being dense. Should have caught it after reading this board for so long.

I'm looking at you, Brytta.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 12, 2012, 10:04:41 PM
LOL

Lavar Johnson and Pat Barry. I know someone who's gonna get beaten to a pulp...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Derain on February 22, 2012, 07:46:18 PM
Miguel Torres vs Michael McDonald @ UFC 145  What you guys think? I am biased I have to pull for my friend Michael.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 22, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
I can't wait for this card on Saturday! Gonna be awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Derain on February 22, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
For sure man.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on February 26, 2012, 01:20:01 AM
I have never seen UFC before. It was amazing!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 26, 2012, 01:41:58 AM
Great main event. Great card. Great, great, great.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 26, 2012, 03:32:44 AM
TIM THE BARBARIAN BOETSCH
WITH THE BEST COMEBACK OF THE NIGHT!! YEAH BOY!

Thanks for not spoiling it, IF <3 Lubba you. Nobody has the main event up yet! I am impatiently waiting.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 26, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
TIM THE BARBARIAN BOETSCH
WITH THE BEST COMEBACK OF THE NIGHT!! YEAH BOY!

Thanks for not spoiling it, IF <3 Lubba you. Nobody has the main event up yet! I am impatiently waiting.
The bar went apeshit in round 3. bwahaha. I screamed, "AMURRICA!"
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 02, 2012, 05:05:09 PM
The flyweights are coming to the UFC tonight!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on March 02, 2012, 05:10:14 PM
The flyweights are coming to the UFC tonight!

Those guys are so small I can't even comprehend how the mechanics of them fighting is going to work.

I don't even know any guys who would qualify for this weight class in my gym and we have a few teens.

Its going to be interesting to watch though, sure enough.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 02, 2012, 05:19:52 PM
That Anderson Silva documentary, what I've watched of it so far ... is bangin'.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 02, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
The flyweights are coming to the UFC tonight!

Those guys are so small I can't even comprehend how the mechanics of them fighting is going to work.

I don't even know any guys who would qualify for this weight class in my gym and we have a few teens.

Its going to be interesting to watch though, sure enough.
Okay, don't you know anybody that's around 5'4"? They're probably around 145-150lbs, right? If they're not overweight. Imagine that, only extremely fit. These guys are cutting 15-20lbs, usually.

And they're going to strike at the speed of Dragonball Z.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 03, 2012, 10:20:50 AM
Great main event. I'm glad they rectified the situation with the McCall/Johnson fight. I'd love to see them fight again. The main event comeback was super sweet, too. :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on March 03, 2012, 10:07:05 PM
The flyweights are coming to the UFC tonight!

Those guys are so small I can't even comprehend how the mechanics of them fighting is going to work.

I don't even know any guys who would qualify for this weight class in my gym and we have a few teens.

Its going to be interesting to watch though, sure enough.

Okay, don't you know anybody that's around 5'4"? They're probably around 145-150lbs, right? If they're not overweight. Imagine that, only extremely fit. These guys are cutting 15-20lbs, usually.

And they're going to strike at the speed of Dragonball Z.


I love watching the smaller weight classes. Those goes throw like a million punches and don't even come close to tiring out like the bigger classes.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 04, 2012, 12:25:09 AM
lol quotefail.

I thought Tate was in the clear once she took Rousey past 1:40, haha.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 04, 2012, 01:05:47 AM
lol quotefail.

I thought Tate was in the clear once she took Rousey past 1:40, haha.

I about puked. Sylvia v. Mir, lady style.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 03, 2012, 02:12:15 PM
(http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426842_142339209221754_118488611606814_160136_1847137954_n.jpg)

hehehe
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 05, 2012, 11:55:36 PM
LOL @ Alistair Overeem having a greater than 10:1 ratio of testosterone to estrogen level.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 06, 2012, 07:32:51 AM
LOL @ Alistair Overeem having a greater than 10:1 ratio of testosterone to estrogen level.
So annoyed....
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 06, 2012, 08:17:01 AM
Sooo predictable.

Seriously. You don't go from that thin to that big by just diet. I mean, I'm sure it's possible over a REALLY LONG TIME, but ...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 17, 2012, 10:53:56 AM
Pretty interesting interview with Rashad.... Sums up everything for those of us who can't be bothered to follow pre-fight drama.

http://www.sherdog.com/videos/videointerview/Rashad-Evans-Tells-All-3919
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 20, 2012, 10:41:19 PM
I'm putting $20 on Rashad to win the upset. He has the best chance out of anyone who has fought Jon Jones to beat him. It should be a great fight and I expect Rashad, even if he does not win, to push the pace the entire fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 20, 2012, 11:06:21 PM
I am pumping my fist for Suga lips Rashad!!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on April 20, 2012, 11:26:29 PM
I am pumping my fist breasts for Suga lips Rashad!!

misread
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 22, 2012, 12:58:46 AM
whatever

I'm going to write a criticism called, "Jon Jones, the Next Lay and Pray Champion out of Greg Jackson's Camp?"

Really. REALLY?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 22, 2012, 09:38:47 AM
Daaaamn, Rashad looked good in the first round so it gave me false hope.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 22, 2012, 12:23:37 PM
I know.

God. I know.

Dammit. DAMMIT.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Derain on April 30, 2012, 06:32:52 PM
Miguel Torres sure ran his mouth alot before he got KOd first round.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 30, 2012, 10:49:27 PM
I am pumping my fist breasts for Suga lips Rashad!!

misread

Damn. I didn't even see this until now.

Rofl. <3
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 25, 2012, 11:57:32 PM
Anderson Silva opened up during the conference call today:

Quote from: The Spider
"Chael is a criminal, he is a criminal. He has been convicted of crimes and he doesn't deserve to be inside the Octagon. When the time is right, I am going to break his face and every one of his teeth in his mouth. Playtime is over, the jokes are over. I am going to beat his ass out of the UFC. He is never going to want to fight again after I am done with him. It doesn't matter if I am on bottom, side or top. Chael is going to get his ass kicked like never before. What I do inside the Octagon is going to change the image of the sport. I am going to make sure his legs are broke and arms are broke he will not be able to walk out by himself. I know he is listening; no more shit talking, it is on now. I'm going to make him pay and make him eat everything he said about myself and my country. I'm going to make sure he does not disrespect any other fighter. I'm going to beat him like his parents should have beat him to have manners. He can say whatever he wants, but I am not playing anymore. It will be the same like the first fight. He walked out the loser and this time he is going to walk out the loser. The only difference is that this time he is going to have to visit a plastic surgeon after the fight."

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on June 26, 2012, 12:05:48 AM
lol, that is awesome ...  I may watch that.

I read that Chael guy's comments about his fight being bigger than the 2012 Olympic games ...  LOLOL.  Idiot.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 26, 2012, 08:01:41 AM
Anderson Silva opened up during the conference call today:

Quote from: The Spider
"Chael is a criminal, he is a criminal. He has been convicted of crimes and he doesn't deserve to be inside the Octagon. When the time is right, I am going to break his face and every one of his teeth in his mouth. Playtime is over, the jokes are over. I am going to beat his ass out of the UFC. He is never going to want to fight again after I am done with him. It doesn't matter if I am on bottom, side or top. Chael is going to get his ass kicked like never before. What I do inside the Octagon is going to change the image of the sport. I am going to make sure his legs are broke and arms are broke he will not be able to walk out by himself. I know he is listening; no more shit talking, it is on now. I'm going to make him pay and make him eat everything he said about myself and my country. I'm going to make sure he does not disrespect any other fighter. I'm going to beat him like his parents should have beat him to have manners. He can say whatever he wants, but I am not playing anymore. It will be the same like the first fight. He walked out the loser and this time he is going to walk out the loser. The only difference is that this time he is going to have to visit a plastic surgeon after the fight."

 ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, I swooned.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 26, 2012, 11:44:54 AM
Anderson Silva opened up during the conference call today:

Quote from: The Spider
"Chael is a criminal, he is a criminal. He has been convicted of crimes and he doesn't deserve to be inside the Octagon. When the time is right, I am going to break his face and every one of his teeth in his mouth. Playtime is over, the jokes are over. I am going to beat his ass out of the UFC. He is never going to want to fight again after I am done with him. It doesn't matter if I am on bottom, side or top. Chael is going to get his ass kicked like never before. What I do inside the Octagon is going to change the image of the sport. I am going to make sure his legs are broke and arms are broke he will not be able to walk out by himself. I know he is listening; no more shit talking, it is on now. I'm going to make him pay and make him eat everything he said about myself and my country. I'm going to make sure he does not disrespect any other fighter. I'm going to beat him like his parents should have beat him to have manners. He can say whatever he wants, but I am not playing anymore. It will be the same like the first fight. He walked out the loser and this time he is going to walk out the loser. The only difference is that this time he is going to have to visit a plastic surgeon after the fight."

 ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, I swooned.

I want Chael to win.

I want Chael to win because Chael makes me laugh every time he opens his mouth and as a champion he would be extremely entertaining.

I understand Chael stands no chance of actually winning. That does not keep me from wanting him to win.

I have never cared for Anderson Silva, he bores me outside of the Octagon. Watching him inside the cage is like watching a artist create a masterpiece. The man is talented on a level that makes other professional fighters look like uncoordinated children. I do not take that away from him. But, he is boring.

Chael is the kind of guy you would want to get drunk with. Anderson Silva is the kind of guy you would want to train under.

All of that being said, I like this new Anderson Silva.

Can't wait for this fight.

Also, more of a "Things That Made Me Happy", but those people there won't care, this is semi-related. My ankle I tore out a few months ago is finally rehabbed, I have my full range of motion back, and it feels as strong as ever. Happiness.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 26, 2012, 03:36:45 PM
No, see... I wouldn't want to get drunk with Chael because he seems like the sort of self-entitled douche that would try to force you against your will to have sex with him.

He's not deserving of it at all. I DO hope Anderson breaks his fucking face because I'm tired of listening to his mouth. This sport shouldn't be a circus sideshow with some ignorant shit blasting his idiotic commentary through a loudspeaker. Martial arts is about respecting your opponent, not spitting your racist drivel all over the fucking place.

Anderson's probably only boring to a majority of people because he's calm. There's probably a good reason his documentary was called "like water". I have a lot of respect for him as a person, and definitely as a fighter.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 26, 2012, 05:01:01 PM
Martial arts is about respecting your opponent, not spitting your racist drivel all over the fucking place.

Yes. Nothing says respect like mashing someone face to a  pulp with your fists. Every sport needs its heel.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 26, 2012, 05:04:54 PM
Anyone who is a martial artist understands Chael for what he is: An asshole. That's about it. And he's trying to sell the fight, too.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 26, 2012, 05:23:01 PM
And he's trying to sell the fight, too.

Anyone who is at all familiar with basic marketing understands this.

Might Chael really be an a-hole off screen?

Sure, but I doubt it.

I have personally never encountered a single person in the two gyms I have trained in that were disrespectful at all. I'm sure all of the guys in Chael's gym only ever see a respectful good-natured easy going Chael Sonnen.

In this sport, with the kind of training we do, a-holes just don't last long. Not real a-holes. The environment does not suite them for many reasons.

The guy Chael is when he is being "entertaining" to a crowd of people who show up to be "entertained" is likely not the "real" Chael Sonnen.

Yes, it is a sport.

But like any other sport it only exists in big time entertainment for the entertainment factor. We need a bad guy to fight the good guy, Chael fills that role well and I appreciate it.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 26, 2012, 05:37:55 PM
I don't watch MMA for the Pro Wrestling aspect, personally. Martial arts is interesting enough to me without having to craft a poorly written and predictable Hero vs. Villain angle.

Americans in general eat that dumb shit up, though--just like they keep watching Jersey Shore and Real Housewives.

The work ethic of a martial artist isn't enough to entertain dumbasses and Chael understands that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 26, 2012, 05:38:40 PM
I don't watch MMA for the Pro Wrestling aspect, personally. Martial arts is interesting enough to me without having to craft a poorly written and predictable Hero vs. Villain angle.

I don't watch it "for" that aspect, I do however still get a chuckle out of it here and there.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 26, 2012, 05:41:44 PM
I'm mildly curious which route he'll take after he gets brutalized in the re-match when talking to Joe Rogan post-fight.

Will he take the: "Our beef is squashed now" option or "This is bullshit I was winning for an entire 37 seconds and then he magickally broke my arm. In the mean streets of suburbia Oregon, that's not called 'winning'."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 26, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
I'm mildly curious which route he'll take after he gets brutalized in the re-match when talking to Joe Rogan post-fight.

Will he take the: "Our beef is squashed now" option or "This is bullshit I was winning for an entire 37 seconds and then he magickally broke my arm. In the mean streets of suburbia Oregon, that's not called 'winning'."

I think WHEN he loses this time he will go the whole, "Well, I gave it my best, Anderson was the better man tonight, blah blah blah."

I think it would be a bad PR move to keep up his garbage-spewing after losing a second time, unless maybe it goes to an EXTREMELY close decision, but, there is no way I see that happening.

Anderson is just an elite fighter and Chael is a good wrestler, at best.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on June 26, 2012, 05:55:38 PM
Yeah, but good wrestling can shut. down. everything.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 26, 2012, 05:57:00 PM
Sonnen should have lost that decision to Bisbing, as much as I dislike Bisbing for nearly the same reason as Chael.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 26, 2012, 07:53:37 PM
Sonnen should have lost that decision to Bisbing, as much as I dislike Bisbing for nearly the same reason as Chael.

I wholeheartedly agree with this, actually. Their fight was, to me, no way a victory for Chael. I thought Bisping deserved the decision.

Man. I guess I just don't get some of you guys. Most fighters are respectful of one another because martial arts is taught that way. The only thing that bothers me is when people come into their post fight interviews and "thank God" that their punches were so accurate that they mauled their opponent. That's silly. But there is a modicum of respect, or there used to be, for a fighter's prowess. I mean, I'm pretty sure most of us have taken a class or two of a martial art sometime in our life and I know that, after testing for my blue belt in Taekwondo before having to move, we were taught never to use our fighting for anything other than self defense. MMA/UFC/etc, to some practitioners, could just be seen as a paid sparring match without the pads. We had plenty of those, and plenty of tournaments, too. *shrug*
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on June 27, 2012, 01:39:10 AM
boog, you always congratulate your opponent when you win, because it makes you even more superior.  That's sportsmanship, duh.  :P
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on June 27, 2012, 10:46:59 AM
I kinda hope Chael uses his superior wrestling to lay on him for 25 minutes, just because he can.  Nothing aggravates me more than watching wrestlers abandon their core skillset because most fans don't appreciate the fact that wrestling is y'know...a martial art.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 27, 2012, 11:28:19 AM

Man. I guess I just don't get some of you guys. Most fighters are respectful of one another because martial arts is taught that way. The only thing that bothers me is when people come into their post fight interviews and "thank God" that their punches were so accurate that they mauled their opponent. That's silly. But there is a modicum of respect, or there used to be, for a fighter's prowess. I mean, I'm pretty sure most of us have taken a class or two of a martial art sometime in our life and I know that, after testing for my blue belt in Taekwondo before having to move, we were taught never to use our fighting for anything other than self defense. MMA/UFC/etc, to some practitioners, could just be seen as a paid sparring match without the pads. We had plenty of those, and plenty of tournaments, too. *shrug*

I'm trying to find a way of explaining this, from my first hand experience, that doesn't come off the wrong way. And I just keep deleting it because after I read it, I think it has a tone that I'm not aiming for.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on July 05, 2012, 03:37:55 PM
Anderson Silva opened up during the conference call today:

Quote from: The Spider
"Chael is a criminal, he is a criminal. He has been convicted of crimes and he doesn't deserve to be inside the Octagon. When the time is right, I am going to break his face and every one of his teeth in his mouth. Playtime is over, the jokes are over. I am going to beat his ass out of the UFC. He is never going to want to fight again after I am done with him. It doesn't matter if I am on bottom, side or top. Chael is going to get his ass kicked like never before. What I do inside the Octagon is going to change the image of the sport. I am going to make sure his legs are broke and arms are broke he will not be able to walk out by himself. I know he is listening; no more shit talking, it is on now. I'm going to make him pay and make him eat everything he said about myself and my country. I'm going to make sure he does not disrespect any other fighter. I'm going to beat him like his parents should have beat him to have manners. He can say whatever he wants, but I am not playing anymore. It will be the same like the first fight. He walked out the loser and this time he is going to walk out the loser. The only difference is that this time he is going to have to visit a plastic surgeon after the fight."

 ;D ;D ;D

Seriously, I swooned.

I want Chael to win.

I want Chael to win because Chael makes me laugh every time he opens his mouth and as a champion he would be extremely entertaining.

I understand Chael stands no chance of actually winning. That does not keep me from wanting him to win.

I have never cared for Anderson Silva, he bores me outside of the Octagon. Watching him inside the cage is like watching a artist create a masterpiece. The man is talented on a level that makes other professional fighters look like uncoordinated children. I do not take that away from him. But, he is boring.

Chael is the kind of guy you would want to get drunk with. Anderson Silva is the kind of guy you would want to train under.

All of that being said, I like this new Anderson Silva.

Can't wait for this fight.

Also, more of a "Things That Made Me Happy", but those people there won't care, this is semi-related. My ankle I tore out a few months ago is finally rehabbed, I have my full range of motion back, and it feels as strong as ever. Happiness.

Chael makes me laugh too. I actually like him.

I found this video that I think you will find funny if you haven't seen it arleady. Be sure to watch the video and not read the
article beforehand. It will ruin it.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1248357-ufc-148-chael-sonnen-talks-growing-up-on-mean-streets-of-west-linn-oregon
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 05, 2012, 03:50:46 PM
I'm in the: I'd rather see Chael win because the motha fucka cracks me up club.
I don't think he will win but I'm rooting for him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 05, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
I'm in the: I'd rather see Chael win because the motha fucka cracks me up club.
I don't think he will win but I'm rooting for him.

Dude also promised his father on his death bed infront of his family that he would win this title one day.

You have to root for that.

There is the showman Chael, and then there is the real Chael. The real Chael seems like a fairly decent guy. Showman Chael is a hilarious d-bag.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 05, 2012, 03:57:43 PM
Dude also promised his father on his death bed infront of his family that he would win this title one day.

You have to root for that.

That I didn't know. A good reason to root for the guy.


You gotta feel for a guy that has seen the things he's seen too. Hahah, that video is funny, Rahmi.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 06, 2012, 02:09:38 PM
One more day.

Excited.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 06, 2012, 02:12:15 PM
Wow, he delivered that perfectly, that was hilarious. Should go into acting once Silva retires him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 06, 2012, 02:20:51 PM
Wow, he delivered that perfectly, that was hilarious. Should go into acting once Silva retires him.

I was impressed my own self.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 06, 2012, 02:24:20 PM
He hangs out with Stone Cold Steve Austin and that other heavyweight dude CM Punk. It's no surprise he has taken this style of interviews in order to get himself more money.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 06, 2012, 02:28:35 PM
He hangs out with Stone Cold Steve Austin and that other heavyweight dude CM Punk. It's no surprise he has taken this style of interviews in order to get himself more money.

Really?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 06, 2012, 02:31:12 PM
http://www.themmanews.com/chael-sonnen-training-with-stone-cold-steve-austin/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 06, 2012, 02:35:00 PM
http://www.themmanews.com/chael-sonnen-training-with-stone-cold-steve-austin/

Kind of fitting.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 06, 2012, 07:55:56 PM
surprise surprise
not
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 06, 2012, 09:31:25 PM
Shoulder checked. Meow.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 08, 2012, 01:48:52 AM
(http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-8n7yn5.gif)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 08, 2012, 02:29:45 AM
(http://h9.abload.de/img/untitled-8n7yn5.gif)

Hey man.

He wasn't on his knees.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 08, 2012, 10:24:05 AM
It was a knee to the body. Therefore: legal. Rashad Evans did that to Tito.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 08, 2012, 11:07:35 AM
It was a knee to the body. Therefore: legal. Rashad Evans did that to Tito.

Yesss. I just saw it after they replayed, but I posted before the replay.

Exquisite.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 09, 2012, 11:18:38 AM
I think I will attempt a spinning backfist on the most dominant striker in UFC history.

Really Chael?

REALLY?

Son, I am dissapoint.

That being said, Anderson did a great job stifling him from the bottom. That knee was legal even though it didn't look like it at first. It landed on his chest, not his face. And the greasing at the beginning of the fight (Anderson rubbing vaseline all over his body from his face repeatedly) was questionable, but, I honestly don't think he did it on purpose. I think he was just trying to get some of that gunk off of his face.

I wanted Chael to win because he is funny and it would be entertaining to see his interviews as a defending champion. I wanted Anderson to win because the guy is just a master of his trade and every fight he is in always has me wondering "What is he going to pull out of his bag this time.".

Overall, I was pleased.

Also, Griffin won, I always like it when Griffin wins.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 09, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
In that gif, I would be the person wearing the white shirt.

Except, I would be jumping up and down like a fuckin' mad woman.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 09, 2012, 12:52:42 PM
Quote
Griffin won, I always like it when Griffin wins.

Best fight of the event I think.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 09, 2012, 02:25:45 PM
Quote
Griffin won, I always like it when Griffin wins.

Best fight of the event I think.

Yeah, Griffin pre-Silva beatdown was my favorite fighter (he seems to have lost his heart since then). Mainly because our styles are pretty similar.

We are 'decent' at everything, and not the best at anything, other than getting punched in the face and waiting for the other guy to make a mistake. We have that getting punched in the face part down. It isn't the BEST plan, but, its a pretty sure-fire-gonna'-happen way to go. At least I never get surprised.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 09, 2012, 03:52:46 PM
Silva has been known to wipe vaseline from his face onto his body before some fights and he gets toweled down before he starts, heh.

Chael coming into this fight had to fight his "perfect" fight to win. Anderson Silva only needed one mistake to capitalize and win. This is why no one wants to fight him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 09, 2012, 03:56:55 PM
Quote
Griffin won, I always like it when Griffin wins.
Best fight of the event I think.
Yeah, Griffin pre-Silva beatdown was my favorite fighter (he seems to have lost his heart since then).

Besides Randy Couture, Griffin was my next favorite. Watching what happened with Silva and how he lost heart since then really sucked. Also another reason for me to hate Silva.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 09, 2012, 04:02:54 PM
Quote
Griffin won, I always like it when Griffin wins.
Best fight of the event I think.
Yeah, Griffin pre-Silva beatdown was my favorite fighter (he seems to have lost his heart since then).

Besides Randy Couture, Griffin was my next favorite. Watching what happened with Silva and how he lost heart since then really sucked. Also another reason for me to hate Silva.

Yeah, I actually moved on to Captain America after I realized Forrest had lost his heart. I didn't expect Forrest to win the Silva fight, I fully expected him to lose, but, I expected a bit "more" out of him. I was never a Forrest fan because he won, I was a Forrest fan because he always fought. A small part of me will always feel like maybe Forrest knew he was going to lose, so, he just stayed down when if he had wanted, he -could- have got back up.

After Captain America's retirement I've got a bit less excited about most fights.

Still like watching Guida, minus his last performance. Wasn't like him at all.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 09, 2012, 04:14:03 PM
Yeah the fight with Silva was the first time to me that Griffin really -quit-. It felt like he went into the fight thinking: "I can't beat this guy" from the getgo. Very unlike him up to that point. My favorite thing about the guy was he'd fight it out until the end or they put him out.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 09, 2012, 04:21:09 PM
I think both of you are not putting into perspective that everyone that Silva ever hits doesn't see straight and their systems start shutting down. Go look at all of Silva's fights and what happens to his opponents when he punches/kicks/knees them. If you get hit the right way there is no way around being semi-conscious and therefore unable to "heart it out".

(http://sadpanda.us/images/1069808-0EQB1RA.gif)
Chael Sonnen's legs buckling after receiving a punch from A Silva.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/hs2epw.gif)
Chael Sonnen's legs buckling after receiving an elbow from A Silva. (First fight I believe.)

(http://www.mmainterplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/anderson-silva-front-kick-vitor-belfort1.gif)
Front kick to the face that flash KO's Vitor. He comes back when he hits the ground.

(http://i54.tinypic.com/t01auf.gif)
Maia getting knee'd in the face.

(http://thewellversed.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/silvagriffin3.gif)
The infamous retreating jab KO.

(http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/2338/silvaleben.gif)
Leben.

(http://www.sanmayce.com/Downloads/Anderson-Silva_under-fire,%20ha-ha.gif)
Pootey Tang A Silva.

(http://www.fightreport.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/anderson-silva_rich-franklin2.gif)

(http://tkohub.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/silva-griffin.gif)
You can't tell me Forrest wasn't trying there. Silva's just too Neo.

(http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q83/Mattiasblogger/UFC126/SilvaBelfort5.gif)
Him dodging Vitor, the "fastest hands in MMA".

(http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd399/Cody_Pickard/AndersonOkami1.gif)
Knockdown of Okami.

etc. etc. etc.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 09, 2012, 04:50:23 PM
Forrest Post-Anderson Fight: :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1R50LpFh_M
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 09, 2012, 05:01:31 PM
Forrest Post-Anderson Fight: :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1R50LpFh_M

I can't see that video atm, but is it where he says having a little girl turns you into a pussy? Because I died laughing when he said that in an interview I saw before the Tito fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 10, 2012, 10:37:39 AM
I think both of you are not putting into perspective that everyone that Silva ever hits doesn't see straight and their systems start shutting down. Go look at all of Silva's fights and what happens to his opponents when he punches/kicks/knees them. If you get hit the right way there is no way around being semi-conscious and therefore unable to "heart it out".


Without a doubt. I've been "on queer street" (not a homophobic term, honestly I don't know where it came from, thats just what we call it) many times myself. You rarely even remember those moments after its over and you act purely on instinct. You are not unconciouss though, and you can still act/react.

He was absolutely on queer street. The part that confused me was after he hits the ground and Silva is standing over him, before another shot is even thrown, Griffin waves Silva off.  Basically, Griffin tapped to strikes. He was conciouss enough to tap to strikes.

Griffin was known, and popular for, the exact opposite. Before that fight no one could have possibly imagined Griffin tapping to much of anything, especially strikes, and especially a single fading/retreating (we call it fading) jab, no matter how devestating. Its not like he was caught up in a flurry of skull crushing ground and pound he couldn't escape.

On top of that his pre-fight interviews for Silva did not showcase his "normal" self. Instead of being comically self-depriciating, he seemed genuinely convinced he was not going to win. I remember watching them and thinking, "Did Forrest's dog die or something?".

I still like Forrest, and a really wish the "old" Forrest would make another appearance. But, I think the fame and the money and the easy life has made him somewhat less hungry than he used to be. Still like the guy and buy all of his books and never miss his fights.

Somewhat related, I am really liking Bonnar these days. He seems to have not lost his drive at all since The Ultimate Fighter. Guy still throws down.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 10, 2012, 11:13:50 AM
On top of that his pre-fight interviews for Silva did not showcase his "normal" self. Instead of being comically self-depriciating, he seemed genuinely convinced he was not going to win. I remember watching them and thinking, "Did Forrest's dog die or something?".
I still like Forrest, and a really wish the "old" Forrest would make another appearance. But, I think the fame and the money and the easy life has made him somewhat less hungry than he used to be. Still like the guy and buy all of his books and never miss his fights.
Yeah, he had himself beat before the fight even started. That's definitely not the right mindset to go fight anyone. I'd like to see the "old" Forrest come back too but it's doubtful at this point.

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Somewhat related, I am really liking Bonnar these days. He seems to have not lost his drive at all since The Ultimate Fighter. Guy still throws down.

He looks about the same as he did then.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 10, 2012, 01:26:30 PM
...Yeah, Stephan hasn't improved at all since the Ultimate Fighter. He's definitely "the same".
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 10, 2012, 01:28:53 PM
...Yeah, Stephan hasn't improved at all since the Ultimate Fighter. He's definitely "the same".

Not any better but not any worse. Still puts up a good fight any time he gets into the ring.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 10, 2012, 01:52:55 PM
...Yeah, Stephan hasn't improved at all since the Ultimate Fighter. He's definitely "the same".

The Nog brothers tried to feed a bus a carrot. I have it on good authority.

Stephan and Forrest are UFC royalty. Show respect you blasphemous girl!

Soon I bet you will be saying Randy Couture wasn't the best to ever grace the octagon.



I will never get the image of you licking the sweat from Big Nog's swarthy skin out of my mind. I shall never forgive you for this Boog. Never.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 10, 2012, 01:59:51 PM
Well, you know. I'm a sucker for people who came from nothing! And well, swarthy men .... Anyway. I mean, Stephan's bleh, but I do love Forrest, at least! He is so funny.

"Have fun at that Joe Rogan comedy. Cookies are better."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 10, 2012, 02:03:35 PM
Well, you know. I'm a sucker for people who came from nothing! And well, swarthy men .... Anyway. I mean, Stephan's bleh, but I do love Forrest, at least! He is so funny.

"Have fun at that Joe Rogan comedy. Cookies are better."

I do like JDS for the same reasons.

You got me there.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 10, 2012, 08:31:39 PM
Being conscious enough to fight is not the same thing as being conscious enough to tap. Is there any doubt in anyone's mind that A Silva stalking towards Forrest after the knockdown would not have caused the KO?

Why are you so invested in Forrest Griffin fighting to the death when plausibility and any semblance of intelligence caused him to tap? He couldn't see straight and had his brain scrambled 3-4 times with hits precise enough to induce a temporarily unconscious state.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 11, 2012, 01:14:25 AM
Why are you so invested in Forrest Griffin fighting to the death 

Because pre-Silva he came off as exactly the type of fighter that would do just that and sold himself as exactly that. "Griffin is tougher than anyone" was why everyone loved him. Not because he was a "great" fighter who always won.

The only reason they even put together the Griffin/Silva fight is because Griffin was marketed as a tough fighter who could take Silva's shots and keep coming. In the lead up to the Silva/Griffin fight the UFC never promoted Griffin's skill as a fighter, they promoted his indomitable will to keep fighting no matter what.

You know, that sort of thing.....Why is it hard for you to understand that I thought the guy could never be broken and when he was broken it was like watching a real life hero of mine fall and I'm a little sore about it?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 11, 2012, 08:01:10 AM
Because you sound like a 12 year old and it's funny to keep going on about it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 11, 2012, 10:47:28 AM
Because you sound like a 12 year old and it's funny to keep going on about it.

Actually edited again, I can't be seen involved in a flame war or I'll get banned again.


Edited to Add: I don't mind being trolled, get your chuckles. I've trolled so much over the years I probably deserve it a bit.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Delirium on July 11, 2012, 10:51:35 AM
Dman = Chael, IF = Silvia
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 11, 2012, 10:51:47 AM
Armageddon MMA event! Desertman vs. Is Friday! Three rounds of mixed martial arts action in the sand pit for -your- entertainment! If at the end of three rounds we have a tie, there will be a sudden death tiebreaker with each of our fighters using bone swords!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 11, 2012, 10:53:04 AM
Dman = Chael, IF = Silvia

Why am I Chael?

I can't wrestle like Chael. I also can't troll as well as Chael, actually, I'm the one being trolled here. Does that mean I'm Marcus Davis?

I'm more of a Stephan Bonnar honestly. I'll do it if I can be introduced by someone who sounds kind of like Bruce Buffer.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 11, 2012, 03:18:50 PM
I didn't watch the weigh-ins for this fight. I just saw the infamous Anderson Silva shoulder check.

That isn't like him at all.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 11, 2012, 03:22:51 PM
I didn't watch the weigh-ins for this fight. I just saw the infamous Anderson Silva shoulder check.

That isn't like him at all.

Really? I felt like it was the real him coming out in the open directly for once.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 11, 2012, 05:51:40 PM
I think Delirium is referring to personalities rather than fighting style. p.s. you don't actually want to fight me.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on July 11, 2012, 06:19:55 PM
Without a doubt. I've been "on queer street" many times myself. You rarely even remember those moments after its over and you act purely on instinct. 

I am really liking Bonnar these days.

I think Delirium is referring to personalities rather than fighting style. p.s. you don't actually want to fight me.

Fight you?  Or take you to queer street... and something about boners?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 11, 2012, 07:35:58 PM
I want to fight Is Friday.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 11, 2012, 09:32:04 PM
I didn't watch the weigh-ins for this fight. I just saw the infamous Anderson Silva shoulder check.

That isn't like him at all.

Really? I felt like it was the real him coming out in the open directly for once.

Seriously? What the hell is everyone's problem with Anderson Silva?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 11, 2012, 09:45:38 PM
I didn't watch the weigh-ins for this fight. I just saw the infamous Anderson Silva shoulder check.

That isn't like him at all.

Really? I felt like it was the real him coming out in the open directly for once.

Seriously? What the hell is everyone's problem with Anderson Silva?

He's cocky and a show off. Big ego. These are things that people generally bring up.

I'm an "MMA purest" I just like to watch a good fight. I couldn't care less about the person behind the fighter. I don't watch interviews or even stick around for post-match comments from fighters. I like watching people duke it out and that's about it for the extent of my interest. This is why I like Anderson. You're probably going to see a good moves if you watch him fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 11, 2012, 10:20:46 PM
I think Delirium is referring to personalities rather than fighting style. p.s. you don't actually want to fight me.

*Yawn*

In other news we had a black belt fresh from Brazil Gracie-BJJ as a guest at my gym tonight. Even with limited English this guy was an awesome instructor to spend some time with.

When it came to pure BJJ (no Gi) this guy was a wizard. Makes me wish I had the time to go to Brazil to spend a little while training there.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 11, 2012, 10:43:54 PM
I didn't watch the weigh-ins for this fight. I just saw the infamous Anderson Silva shoulder check.

That isn't like him at all.

Really? I felt like it was the real him coming out in the open directly for once.

Seriously? What the hell is everyone's problem with Anderson Silva?

He's cocky and a show off. Big ego. These are things that people generally bring up.

Yeah, the showboating in the ring just pisses me off. And even when he does try to -act- respectful and humble that's how it comes across to me is just an -act-. Great fighter but no class, imo.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 11, 2012, 11:10:37 PM
He showboats ... Oh. You mean when people aren't fighting him? Like Demian Maia? Well no shit. Would you want to sit there in the Octagon with someone who wouldn't man up and fight you? Who would just roll onto his back and grab feebly for your legs and feet? Right.

Do you like Chael Sonnen? You really can't like him if you're going to rag on Silva for "showboating".
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 11, 2012, 11:11:54 PM
Wow you really like Anderson, don't you. :P
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 11, 2012, 11:21:35 PM
He showboats ... Oh. You mean when people aren't fighting him? Like Demian Maia? Well no shit. Would you want to sit there in the Octagon with someone who wouldn't man up and fight you? Who would just roll onto his back and grab feebly for your legs and feet? Right.

Do you like Chael Sonnen? You really can't like him if you're going to rag on Silva for "showboating".

 I can like him if I want. Just like you have every right to like a jackass like Silva if you want. Chael was putting on a show -outside- of the fight and I find it entertaining.  With Silva if he's got them so outclassed he can showboat, then he should just -finish- them instead of acting like an ass -in- the ring. Dragging it out and showboating to humilate the other guy is a dick move. Silva is a douchebag and a showboating ass.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 11, 2012, 11:29:30 PM
Wow you really like Anderson, don't you. :P

It's not just that. I just don't like cocky fucking douchebags like Chael Sonnen who have had everything their WHOLE LIVES handed to them. And yet he still has to do shady shit? Money laundering? Inserting his political views into everything he does? Insulting an entire nation of people because he doesn't like -one guy-?

I'll take Silva over some cockmunching dirtbag like Chael Sonnen anyday. I don't get the difference between showboating inside or outside the ring. Anderson doesn't do it always. And if you think his dodging or his tossing down of his hands is showboating, plenty of other fighters do it, too. They just happen to usually fail and get knocked out. Silva's just good enough that he never does.

Sorry if this is coming off a bit snippy. I'm pregnant and angry and sick and nauseous. And I hate privileged little punk bitches. >_>
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 11, 2012, 11:37:08 PM
Yeah it's been made pretty obvious you don't like people with money, and you've got a bleeding heart for people who "worked their way up from nothing". Like I said before I couldn't give two shits about the people behind the fighter. I just like watching a good fight. I refuse to make opinions about peoples personality based off of the facade they present to the masses. I generally got to meet a person to know if he's actually a douchebag or not. People have surprised me enough times after sitting down and chatting with them, by completely shattering my perception of them based on what I'd seen before, that I don't think it's as easy to read someone as some make it out to be.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 11, 2012, 11:59:39 PM
Peeps are kinda dumb about the "ego" thing with A Silva. He doesn't trash talk before a fight. He only taunts opponents that don't engage him. He wants to make a good fight for the fans. I don't see what anyone has a problem with.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: A Large Bag on July 12, 2012, 12:21:24 AM
I hardly see showboating and dragging out a fight against a lesser opponent as "making a good fight for the fans".
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 12, 2012, 12:24:34 AM
I hardly see showboating and dragging out a fight against a lesser opponent as "making a good fight for the fans".
You mean when Maia/Leites jumped onto their backs the entire five rounds? How is that his fault?

Props to my boy Joey for going out there and fighting a hard brawl with Te Huna on short notice.


p.s. holy shit late stoppage ref.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 12, 2012, 11:18:03 AM
I didn't watch the weigh-ins for this fight. I just saw the infamous Anderson Silva shoulder check.

That isn't like him at all.

Really? I felt like it was the real him coming out in the open directly for once.

Seriously? What the hell is everyone's problem with Anderson Silva?

He comes off as a bit douchey at times. So what? I like him anyways because he is a great fighter. Very possibly the greatest fighter. The difference between his doucheyness and Chael's doucheyness is that Chael is blatantly completely full of crap. He is obviously a clown who doesn't believe anything he says. Chael is a goofball doing it for laughs and/or publicity. Most of the time if you keep that in mind he is pretty dang funny. When Anderson is douchey, he seems to be fairly sincere in his belief about his own superiority. And why not? The guy has proven time and time again that he is better than other men from all over the world in the most base animalistic sense of the word. So what if he is a little cocky? He kind of has a reason to be.

I give him points for the air guitar strumming booty dance he did in the cage though. That had me rolling.

 
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 12, 2012, 11:21:24 AM
Wow you really like Anderson, don't you. :P

It's not just that. I just don't like cocky fucking douchebags like Chael Sonnen who have had everything their WHOLE LIVES handed to them. And yet he still has to do shady shit? Money laundering? Inserting his political views into everything he does? Insulting an entire nation of people because he doesn't like -one guy-?

I'll take Silva over some cockmunching dirtbag like Chael Sonnen anyday. I don't get the difference between showboating inside or outside the ring. Anderson doesn't do it always. And if you think his dodging or his tossing down of his hands is showboating, plenty of other fighters do it, too. They just happen to usually fail and get knocked out. Silva's just good enough that he never does.

Sorry if this is coming off a bit snippy. I'm pregnant and angry and sick and nauseous. And I hate privileged little punk bitches. >_>

Boog, once you are no longer pregnant, I have a place for you in my gym. You need to get this rage out. Come punch some folks in the face, I promise you will enjoy it.  :D

Bring Mirko.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on July 12, 2012, 09:08:01 PM
Boog doesn't get Chael's shtick. He's promoting a fight.  :-\

If you are angry and hate Chael he has succeeded.

Wow, I feel sorry for you.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 12, 2012, 09:24:14 PM
I feel sorry that you had to state just how sorry you felt for me. But thank you for your concern. Have a lovely day. :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: HammerofJericho on July 12, 2012, 09:35:39 PM
A. Silva is a fuckin' pimp daddy in the ring. He showboats because he can, he wins because, well.....fuck, he's that much better than everyone else.You have a problem with Silva, go fight him. See which is better... his showboating or his fighting. ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on July 13, 2012, 12:28:11 AM
I feel sorry that you had to state just how sorry you felt for me. But thank you for your concern. Have a lovely day. :)

I feel sorry that I had to do it as well.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 13, 2012, 10:31:50 AM
I feel sorry that you had to state just how sorry you felt for me. But thank you for your concern. Have a lovely day. :)

I feel sorry that I had to do it as well.

Incase you were wondering, you are the one coming off as a jerk in this exchange bud. Just letting you know.

I would go the route of dignified semi-apology to save face at this point if it were me.

Something along the lines of, "That was a bit snippy, sorry about that, that wasn't called for."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Bluefae on July 13, 2012, 01:35:03 PM
Martial arts is about respecting your opponent, not spitting your racist drivel all over the fucking place.

Yes. Nothing says respect like mashing someone face to a  pulp with your fists. Every sport needs its heel.

     In fairness, there is a difference between the sport of MMA (and the UFC, which I love watching) and the philosophy of many martial arts in which respect for self and others is a quintessential element.  I've practiced judo and tae kwon do most of my life, and both incorporate a strong ethic of honorable conduct (with respect as a pillar therein).  Judo, in particular, emphasizes acting in harmony with others, be it physically, emotionally, or even spiritually.

     How people behave at tournaments can be something entirely different, but I wouldn't lay the blame of unruly actions at the doorstep of the art. 

     As for the Chael/Anderson fight, I was really, really looking forward to it (Dad and I watch 'em together, and my brothers whenever they're in town).  I'm a little bummed that it was decided not because Silva definitively "solved" the riddle of countering Sonnen's very aggressive wrestling, but rather because the later made a gross blunder (I believe it was Desertman who pointed out the absurdity of trying to catch the man who is likely the world's best striker with a sloppy spinning backfist, especially with little to no set-up).  Of course, that's how most "real" fights are determined, and to a lesser extent hard sparring:  he (or she) who makes the least mistakes, wins.  It's rare, in my experience, for both people to be "on", and for the contest to be one of pure skill and cunning instead of who messes up least.  I was hoping to see just such a bout, though.  Still, that's part of Silva's remarkable skill - his sheer consistency.  The man is machine-like in that.  Chael Sonnen is the only person I've seen him fight in the UFC who's made him even look human (some of his earlier bouts were a tad more wild).
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 12, 2012, 11:09:46 AM
Jake Shields needs to go home. If he had that much trouble against Ed Herman, who hasn't really fought top billing in nearly 3 years ... I'm sorry. He is overrated. He has no cardio. Joe sat there and said that Jake could submit someone lickity split and would get excited every time Jake had his digs in and, oh, wait, nothing happened. The UFC feeds him guppies to make him look good (which backfired in this case) and then claims he's fit to fight a champion. Spare me. (PS - that fight against Kampmann back in the day, I had Kampmann winning. Split decision my ass.)

That was probably one of the more boring cards I've seen. I'm glad I didn't waste money on it.

Also, please, Frankie. You say you deserve this, that, and the other, and your fights are 90% of the time draws or split decisions. That obviously wasn't Henderson's best performance, but my god. You didn't exactly convince anyone you deserve a third try.

I haven't seen the post fight conference yet. I am scared to. They'll probably say Henderson v. Edgar III. Gross!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 12, 2012, 11:27:22 AM
Shields is still an undersized middleweight trying to put on more weight since he is moving up from 170. He can easily beat anyone at 170 or 185 unless they are top 10. Does that mean they should cut him? No. It means he's a mid-tier fighter until he proves otherwise. Not everyone in the UFC is going to challenge A Silva.

Frankie stopped Gray. BJ Penn has only been stopped by the two best welterweights of all time while outside of his weight class, so good luck getting anyone to stop him. Frankie is undersized when compared to Bendo/most lightweights, despite putting on some size for this event.

D Cruz and GSP haven't finished anyone in a while because they're fighting the best in their divisions yet they are champs and considered (rightfully) to be the best. When you're facing A Level competition some styles just do not lend toward a finish. Jose Aldo has been unable to finish a few of his opponents recently. Yet he beat them soundly... that man is a wrecking machine, (K Flo, Mark Hominick, Faber.)

Boog you sound like an uneducated mma noob.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 12, 2012, 11:42:09 AM
I'm sick of watching and listening to whiny ass bitches saying they deserve things they don't. I didn't know this sport had turned into pussy wussy time.

No one likes sore losers. Edgar is definitely one of the sorest.

I don't care what I sound like. My opinion is my own. The fights I saw were boring.

Edit: Shields had to cut to get down to 170 and always looked gaunt. He looked bad this time. Clinching the entire fight, being touted as one of the best BJJ artists, and not getting anything off, hell, barely even anything getting locked up ...

Yes. Frankie did well, like, a few times. I just find him incredibly boring. I guess maybe I just don't like watching itty bitties fight. I thought Bendo did well, and I enjoy watching him fight usually, even though I don't personally care for him.

The champions are great. They all are. I might be disappointed when they might not finish fights, or lay and pray, but they execute their shit beautifully. Shields looked sloppy and Frankie, meh. Meh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 12, 2012, 11:49:33 AM
He said during the press conference "Dana isn't going to give me another shot" when asked about it. I'm not sure what you're ranting about.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 12, 2012, 11:52:47 AM
He said during the press conference "Dana isn't going to give me another shot" when asked about it. I'm not sure what you're ranting about.

Um. I haven't watched it yet, like I said. ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 24, 2012, 11:37:50 AM
Chael Sonnen. Well played Sir, well played.

Before I just found the guy amusing. I think I'm starting to genuinely like the guy.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 24, 2012, 11:51:28 AM
After having read all "sides" of the whole UFC 151 debacle....

Jon Jones: Everything to lose by fighting Sonnen on short notice, who had been training with D Hendo. Long term: Sonnen/Jones down the road will make more money than it would have at UFC 151. Jones will still be fighting within a month's time. Jones doesn't have an obligation to accept fights on short notice when there's nothing in it for him.

Fighters are independent contractors. While it sucks that the event was cancelled--ultimately this happened because Hendo got injured. Not because Jones was ducking an opponent.

Because MMA is becoming much more professional and dealing with higher level athletes nowadays, more things of this nature are going to happen. Fighters are going to be looking out for their long term careers, not feeling obligated to "save a card" and committing career suicide to be some kind of "hero".

Dana White's a dumbass for treating one of his biggest stars like this.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 25, 2012, 01:26:11 AM
Chael offered, Anderson offered to save the card. Lyoto and Shogun were given the chance, declined.

Belfort vs. Jones. Heh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 13, 2012, 12:49:25 AM
oh dear god

Bonnar versus Silva? Was there no one else uninjured enough to fight Anderson?

can not compuuuuute -

Oh. Yep. Now I've read a few reports, that's why. No one else was healthy enough to fight. Doh! Silva at light heavyweight - yesss.

EGADS. NOG'S FIGHTING. FUCK THE REST OF THE CARD. WAHOO.

Oh wow. Gonzaga, too?! And Fitch. It's like they made this card for me.

Now watch all my favorites get their asses beat. :(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on September 13, 2012, 01:12:04 AM
Oh man, if Stephan Bonnar knocked Silva out...trollface forever.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 13, 2012, 11:23:59 AM
When Bonnar toughs it out and manages to win, I expect all of you to show proper respect.  ;)

I know the chances are slim to none, but, I like Bonnar, so, yeah.

Even without a win, I would be happy just to see a few rounds of Bonnar style slug-fest brawling. (Anything but a Griffing vs Silva repeat.) You don't watch Bonnar to see him win, you watch him to see him fight. I'm looking forward to this one.  :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on September 13, 2012, 11:32:15 AM
I like Bonnar too, but lets face it. After the Griffin fight, he didn't get any better. He just stayed the same while everyone
else surpassed him.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 13, 2012, 11:37:09 AM
I like Bonnar too, but lets face it. After the Griffin fight, he didn't get any better. He just stayed the same while everyone
else surpassed him.

Truth.

But, I wouldn't say he got any worse either.

He was fun to watch then, he is fun to watch now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 13, 2012, 11:49:40 AM
I like Bonnar too, but lets face it. After the Griffin fight, he didn't get any better. He just stayed the same while everyone
else surpassed him.

Truth.

But, I wouldn't say he got any worse either.

He was fun to watch then, he is fun to watch now.

Really? Meh. I agree, he never got better, but that's like, the point of MMA! Watching a fighter grow and evolve. Kinda like Pokemon or like, Tamagotchi.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 13, 2012, 07:41:48 PM
These are gon' be some leet fights. I'm very excited for nearly ALL of them!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on October 14, 2012, 02:47:44 AM
Lyoto and Shogun were given the chance, declined.

Are you referring to fighting Jones and saving UFC 151?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 14, 2012, 09:01:10 AM
That post was from 2 months ago. And, based off the context of my post, yes.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on October 14, 2012, 07:36:22 PM
thanks bro
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 16, 2012, 08:14:26 PM
http://www.mmatko.com/jon-jones-vs-chael-sonnen-coaching-the-ultimate-fighter-17-fighting-on-april-27/

What, what, what?! Omigosh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on October 17, 2012, 11:28:19 AM
http://www.mmatko.com/jon-jones-vs-chael-sonnen-coaching-the-ultimate-fighter-17-fighting-on-april-27/

What, what, what?! Omigosh.

 :)

Glorious.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on October 17, 2012, 12:11:03 PM
"Listen, here is what you need to know," Sonnen told UFC tonight. "This show has some tremendous young talent on it. I will be taking 50 percent of that talent and teaching them how to fight. The other half is going to be taught how to be selfish, entitled brats like Jones. The good news is that when it is all over, I'm sure coach Jones will throw in a hell of an after party."



So it begins.... :D

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on October 17, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
Rofl.

I kinda hafta agree, though I'm not sure the pot should be calling the kettle black about entitlements, but hey. I am excited for the coach drama. It's always way more interesting than the wussy guy stuff on the show. (SERIOUSLY, this season makes me wish the baby was a girl. Some of these dudes are bigger dramahos than girls on like, The Real World.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on October 18, 2012, 04:30:47 AM
Someone spiked their testosterone injections with estrogen.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on October 20, 2012, 01:10:18 PM
Man, if only Chael had a shred of hope to beat him....
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 17, 2012, 08:03:26 PM
Go Condit! Wait, I mean GSP. Erm. God. I love you both.

I'm hoping for a Kampmann win, but Hendricks is a beast! We'll see, rawr.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Malken on November 17, 2012, 08:06:38 PM
Go GSP! Montreal represents, woot!  ;D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 18, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
When GSP was kicked in the head I yelled, "MY DREAM IS BEING REALIZED!" while Sophie was yelling "Noooo!"
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: K54 on November 18, 2012, 02:23:08 AM
Booo. I love them both too, buuuut... I love Condit more!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 18, 2012, 09:06:59 AM
Condit definitely brought it.

But, like I told manboog, if he didn't stop the fight and it went to decision, it didn't matter how hard he fought - he was in Montreal!

I definitely would like to see a rematch. It was a great main event. GSP's face ... whew.

Also - dear gawd, Johny Hendricks.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 18, 2012, 09:56:44 AM
Oh. I'm double posting because I forgot:

Fuck whoever went on Carlos Condit's Wikipedia page while we were driving home! They put him as winning and I was like, "Whoa, no way!"

Then it was changed about 5 minutes later. Gat-dammit.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Malken on November 18, 2012, 05:45:00 PM
But, like I told manboog, if he didn't stop the fight and it went to decision, it didn't matter how hard he fought - he was in Montreal!

I definitely would like to see a rematch. It was a great main event. GSP's face ... whew.

Brutal fight was brutal.

(http://i.imgur.com/aOJ4Y.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Delirium on November 18, 2012, 06:33:34 PM
Damn...
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 19, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
Condit definitely brought it.

But, like I told manboog, if he didn't stop the fight and it went to decision, it didn't matter how hard he fought - he was in Montreal!

I definitely would like to see a rematch. It was a great main event. GSP's face ... whew.

Also - dear gawd, Johny Hendricks.

To me, with the exception of the brilliant head kick that GSP didn't see coming and the brief ground and pound, it was a pretty one sided fight.
Condit let GSP off the hook and should have kept him on the ground and not let him get up.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 19, 2012, 02:25:06 PM
I am sure GSP didn't lay and pray the whole fight because no one wants to come back after a year and a half and win that way, Rahmi! :)

That being said, GSP can't do that with Anderson. That'd be suicide!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on November 20, 2012, 04:47:21 AM
To me, with the exception of the brilliant head kick that GSP didn't see coming and the brief ground and pound, it was a pretty one sided fight.
Condit let GSP off the hook and should have kept him on the ground and not let him get up.

Blame GSP's wrestling and ground control.

Here's a video I think everyone (even casual fans) might enjoy watching: http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/11/18/3662072/ufc-154-georges-st-pierre-gsp-carlos-condit-gracie-breakdown-video

Truly incredible how his ground game completely negates jitz practitioners. His submission defense truly is impeccable.

Last note: I completely disagree with the bold portion of your statement. Condit threatened GSP in all phases of the fight. GSP was simply better that night. Watch his Koscheck/Fitch/Serra II/Penn II fights; THOSE were the definition of one-sided beatdowns.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Rahmi on November 20, 2012, 05:23:49 PM
I am sure GSP didn't lay and pray the whole fight because no one wants to come back after a year and a half and win that way, Rahmi! :)

That being said, GSP can't do that with Anderson. That'd be suicide!

Probably not, because Silva is a much bigger dude.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on November 20, 2012, 07:17:39 PM
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2012/11/20/3662386/ufc-154-results-gsp-st-pierre-career-defining-performance-submission-defense-carlos-condit

And Condit's no slouch either.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 06, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
I'm cheesed. The UFC named Rousey its female champ ... without her fighting anyone first.

Sorry, but if you're too scared to fight Cyborg, even at a catchweight, you don't deserve the title.

She's worse than Chael Sonnen in her mouthiness, if you ask me. I've never heard a more crass person speak in my life. Oh wait. She trains with the Diazes, doesn't she? NEVERMIND. I guess they're not so much crass as they just come off as completely unintelligent.

Anyway. Whatever. I hope they aren't handing it to her solely because she's pretty or ... whatever. She's a good fighter, yes, but she's nowhere near Cyborg's brilliance. Maybe Carano's, but definitely not Cyborg.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 06, 2012, 08:38:13 PM
I'm cheesed. The UFC named Rousey its female champ ... without her fighting anyone first.

Sorry, but if you're too scared to fight Cyborg, even at a catchweight, you don't deserve the title.

She's worse than Chael Sonnen in her mouthiness, if you ask me. I've never heard a more crass person speak in my life. Oh wait. She trains with the Diazes, doesn't she? NEVERMIND. I guess they're not so much crass as they just come off as completely unintelligent.

Anyway. Whatever. I hope they aren't handing it to her solely because she's pretty or ... whatever. She's a good fighter, yes, but she's nowhere near Cyborg's brilliance. Maybe Carano's, but definitely not Cyborg.

She is the UFC women's champion because she was the Strikeforce women's champion.

The UFC is pulling the very few credible women fighters that exist, that are in Strikeforce, and putting them in the UFC.

She is the UFC champion, because she beat every woman in Strikeforce.

You can say she didn't beat Cyborg, and I will say that Cyborg has more testosterone in her system than I do. She has more male hormones in her than a typical male, which is why she is built like a tank and has a hard time even making 155, much less 135. This isn't a wild claim. She was tested. She failed her test. Big surprise there.  

If I was a legit female fighter, I wouldn't fight Cyborg either, for the exact same reason they don't let women fight against men to begin with, it isn't safe for them all things considered.

Now, I would love to see her fight GC. I think that would be a great fight. But, GC hasn't been seen in a gym since she lost to Cyborg from what I understand, so, slim chances there.

Seriously, there are legit male fighters not on roids who aren't this cut and jacked. I would be afraid to fight this beast.

(http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5329/crisroids.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on December 07, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Sorry, but if you're too scared to fight Cyborg, even at a catchweight, you don't deserve the title.

lolmmalogic
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 07, 2012, 09:13:59 PM
Rousey would armbar the shit out of a steroided arm.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 30, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
Lets see brown pride pull that cage-clench gutless shit on my monster Overeem. Dos was punch drunk for 23 minutes but cain couldnt put him away. Talented enough to grind him away, but too chickenshit to put in real work against an opponent that barely knows where he's at. Because he's a bitch and even in the end was too afraid of Dos' power to push off and really lay hands. Reem will sort him and his massive nipples the fuck out. And then reign as a heavyweight tyrant.

Miller/Lauzon was a bloodbath. Barbaric. I loved it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 30, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
If Overeem can ever pass a drug test.

 ::)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 30, 2012, 11:41:23 AM
I know boog! :( I'm praying he gets it together, because he just plays the part so well. I want a barbarian raider out of a nightmare as my HW champ. He fits the bill.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 30, 2012, 11:52:52 AM
Man the guy next to me at the bar had no idea what Jim Miller was all about. He kept yelling for Lauzon to take him down and do "his work". He was apparently unaware that Jim Miller is impervious to submission attack and frequently grinds the shit out of people by kamakaze attack no matter where the fight is. Played out much like I thought it would.

Also: I think Cain being unable to finish JDS is less indicative of Cain's skill than it is of JDS being a work mule. Regardless, we've seen the role reversal and what happens when JDS has somebody hurting.

Belfort & Bisbing is coming up. As usual, I'll be cheering for whichever guy punches Bisbing in the face.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: KankWhisperer on December 30, 2012, 05:41:22 PM
Lets see brown pride pull that cage-clench gutless shit on my monster Overeem. Dos was punch drunk for 23 minutes but cain couldnt put him away. Talented enough to grind him away, but too chickenshit to put in real work against an opponent that barely knows where he's at. Because he's a bitch and even in the end was too afraid of Dos' power to push off and really lay hands. Reem will sort him and his massive nipples the fuck out. And then reign as a heavyweight tyrant.

Yeah, he should of played to Dos Santos' strength. Great plan. Long reign Cain.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 31, 2012, 12:26:54 AM
Poor Tim Boetsch! I felt he definitely could have won that fight. I have'nt seen the post-fight press conference yet though, so I don't know what was broken. I suspected it was his jaw from Phillipou's uppercut in the first round, but Joe Rogan kept mentioning he thought it was his hand.

And god, he soldiered on even getting poked/scratched on the eye/brow so hard he started to bleed from it, too. What a man. I hope he doesn't drop too low in contendership just because he lost to Phillipou in what was a fight in which he persevered even with ridiculous injuries.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 31, 2012, 10:08:13 AM
JDS got wrecked like I never imagined that dude would get wrecked, at least not for another several years after age had slowed him down.

I fully expected a repeat of JDS vs Cain one. I wanted JDS to win, I don't care for Cain that much, but no denying he took JDS to school. He even outclassed him on the feet.

Respect Cain, respect.

Also, we had never seen JDS have his chin tested before. This was the first time we have seen him really take shots, and he took them like a champ (fitting considering he was the champ). Before this fight I couldn't imagine anyone taking that many hard shots directly on the jaw and still getting up with the exception of Roy Nelson (Heavyweights). So we now know that JDS has a first class chin.

I'm looking forward to the rubber match. I will be interested to see what JDS does to evolve before the next fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: KankWhisperer on February 02, 2013, 11:45:33 PM
Haha, go Bigfoot!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on February 03, 2013, 12:17:56 AM
The Maia - Fitch fight has been the best so far. Maia is LEGIT at 170.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 03, 2013, 01:20:39 AM
Haha, go Bigfoot!

Manboog got home, watched this fight, and cried from laughing so hard.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on February 03, 2013, 08:20:04 AM
I was so happy for bigfoot, I hope he took Overeems girlfriend home after crushing his skull with those freaky big mitts last night.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on February 03, 2013, 09:51:51 AM
The two cocky bastards lost last night: Reem and Rashad. Poor Frankie. Such a great fighter. I truly don't know how he didn't slow after those leg kicks. Aldo usually suffers in the later rounds, because he cuts so much weight, but he'd been so dominant the first two.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 03, 2013, 12:30:59 PM
If you ask me, Frankie comes off fairly cocky to me, too. :/

I love Rashad, but I admit he can be a bit jerky. But he's got that Psychology degree and I think he puts it to good use when it comes to messing with other people. Also, he's um, kind of a "hometown" boy, so I can't ever cheer against him ... at least not outright!

 :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on February 04, 2013, 06:20:21 AM
If you ask me, Frankie comes off fairly cocky to me, too. :/

Example?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Romy on February 23, 2013, 11:23:01 PM
This has been a damn good UFC card. Great week of fights including the Bellator card.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on February 24, 2013, 12:48:32 AM
Fantastic fights tonight. Please check out the new m.ufc.com and tell me what you think. We just launched it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 25, 2013, 10:14:42 AM
Fantastic fights tonight. Please check out the new m.ufc.com and tell me what you think. We just launched it.

If you were responsible for changing the UFC.COM main page, I am displeased with you. Just saying.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Fnord on February 25, 2013, 11:02:04 AM
Fantastic fights tonight. Please check out the new m.ufc.com and tell me what you think. We just launched it.

If you were responsible for changing the UFC.COM main page, I am displeased with you. Just saying.

www.ufc.com is a whole other animal, done by a totally different company. My company only handles the mobile site. Take a spin through, let me know what you think.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 25, 2013, 02:22:40 PM
I wonder when the all female TUF episode is going to hit the market. Hmm.

Put a bunch of professionally trained women-folk fighters in a house together for six weeks making them live in close quarters where all they have to do the entire time is plot against and backstab each other.

I would watch it. I wouldn't be surprised if a large part of the reason for making a women's division was just so they could produce a women's TUF season. I would argue it might be more "dramatic" and "volatile" than a men's season of TUF.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on March 04, 2013, 11:01:39 AM
Second round knockout. Good job Wandy.

(One of the few remaining guys from that era of fighters, good to see him put two together.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Jenred on March 08, 2013, 04:09:50 PM
So the commercials/promos for UFC 158 are making it look more and more like professional wrestling nonsense
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Kismetic on April 28, 2013, 01:00:44 AM
Won a couple bets, Big Country, Bisping, but then I lost it all betting on Sonnen's last ditch attempt at a run.  I wanted Jon Jones to win.  Man, what a great fighter!  I thought because he was 100% against takedowns, that a ground fighter like Sonnen might take him.  Damn, those elbows, though!

Old school boxing fan, but I'm definitely warming up to UFC.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: KankWhisperer on June 03, 2013, 12:19:25 AM
Made me laugh because of the horse meat controversy.

http://i396.photobucket.com/albums/pp46/antiwhipped/Horse.gif
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 07, 2013, 02:19:35 AM
GOAT finally got caught and his streak ended. Weidman did a superb job of staying composed where none of Silva's UFC opponents could prior (or be as accurate). I was in absolute shock for 10 minutes, but them's the breaks. You can't juke guys forever.

Definitely one of my favorite fighters. Always entertaining (except gorram Abu Dhabi!) He's accomplished a ton and has the most ridiculous highlight reel of any fighter I've seen. Much love A Silva!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Zul on July 07, 2013, 04:26:16 AM
Got caught? More like caught clowning.

I'm sorry, but as a relatively new fan to MMA his performance somewhat turned me off to the sport. What he displayed was textbook hubris and a total lack of respect for his opponent.

Very, very pathetic.  :-\
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 07, 2013, 10:11:48 AM
Got caught? More like caught clowning.

I'm sorry, but as a relatively new fan to MMA his performance somewhat turned me off to the sport. What he displayed was textbook hubris and a total lack of respect for his opponent.

Very, very pathetic.  :-\
I guess you've never seen Anderson Silva fight. He's literally been doing that since 2006, bro.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Zul on July 07, 2013, 10:20:07 AM
I've seen his fight with Bonnar and Sonnen, and I did not like the way he acted in the former. Going back and watching his fights with Maia, Leites and Cote, my initial observations were reaffirmed: Silva is a disrespectful, showboating asshole. So no, dudebro, you guessed wrong.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 07, 2013, 10:25:38 AM
I've seen his fight with Bonnar and Sonnen, and I did not like the way he acted in the former. Going back and watching his fights with Maia, Leites and Cote, my initial observations were reaffirmed: Silva is a disrespectful, showboating asshole. So no, dudebro, you guessed wrong.
Throwing fighters off their game plan and making them play his game=disrespectful.  :D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Zul on July 07, 2013, 12:10:56 PM
Playing air guitar is not an attempt to mindfuck someone, but rather indicative of a grade A douche bag. Sorry, but I don't believe that's what martial arts is about. We'll just have to agree to disagree here.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 08, 2013, 10:20:03 AM
Playing air guitar is not an attempt to mindfuck someone, but rather indicative of a grade A douche bag. Sorry, but I don't believe that's what martial arts is about. We'll just have to agree to disagree here.

This isn't martial arts. This is fighting. You go to a traditional dojo to learn martial arts. You go to a fight gym to learn fighting. They typically don't even teach them both at the same place.

There is a huge difference. Not all fighters are martial artists, and not all martial artists are fighters. Though it does stand to reason that most of the guys rising to the top of the heap these days are both.

Being a martial artist does not make you a fighter.

You have to look at it from the side of the guy who is fighting Anderson Silva. Having stood in the cage more times than I can count now, I can tell you that if some guy dropped his hands, laughed at me, dodged me like the Matrix, and started playing the air-guitar, I would be so thrown off my gameplan and swinging with rage I would probably exhaust myself in 45 seconds.

I used to think Anderson was being a douche. He kind of is, but it is extremely intelligent calculated douchebaggery. You have to be an extremely good fighter to pull off what he has pulled off, and a lot of that can probably be contributed to him completely clowning guys and making them fight stupid and angry/humiliated instead of smart. Anderson Silva is extremely physically talented in the fight game, but more importantly, and he doesn't get a lot of credit for this, he has mastered the psychological game. I've been on both ends of it and I can tell you that sometimes you lose the fight before you ever get in the cage just because of how the other guy has messed with your head. Sometimes they break you after you have already put in a round and a half, and you realize, he isn't even concerned with me. It is a feeling that you have to experience to really understand. More than half of the fight is all in your head and against yourself.

The difference in this fight was he finally got caught.

I won't lie, I have wanted that to happen for a long time. At first I wanted it to happen because I didn't like Anderson Silva being what I thought was disrepectful at the time. Over the last few years I turned to wanting it to happen because, "No man should be so good that he can do that to other professional fighters and not get his chin checked." It finally happened and as a fighter, I'm pretty happy about it.

Edited to Add: I'm happy about it not becuase I dislike Anderson Silva, but because it feels good to finally see him "get what was coming to him" for doing exactly what I have been trained not to do over the years. You can only get away with going away from the basics for so long before the simple fundamentals of the thing rear up to remind you that they are called "the basics" for a reason.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 08, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
Also, the thing I don't like about this is that Weidman isn't going to get the credit he deserves.

Even I contribute his win to, "Anderson made a stupid mistake.", and not to Weidman beating Anderson.

If Anderson took a rematch and fought "smart", he would probably beat Weidman. True or not, that is the way a lot of people are going to look at it. I still see Anderson as the pound-for-pound best in the world. He just made a stupid mistake.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Zul on July 08, 2013, 08:51:30 PM
This isn't martial arts. This is fighting. You go to a traditional dojo to learn martial arts. You go to a fight gym to learn fighting. They typically don't even teach them both at the same place.

MMA is an acronym for "mixed martial arts", is it not?

Being a martial artist does not make you a fighter.

I never argued it did, but thank you for this.  :)

The rest of your post I agree with to some extent.

Edit: And regarding your last comments, I agree wholeheartedly. The fans and Weidman were robbed of a great match.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 08, 2013, 10:57:00 PM
This isn't martial arts. This is fighting. You go to a traditional dojo to learn martial arts. You go to a fight gym to learn fighting. They typically don't even teach them both at the same place.

MMA is an acronym for "mixed martial arts", is it not?



That is correct. Yet you can be a mixed martial artist and not be a fighter, and you can be a fighter and not be a mixed martial artist.

The UFC features fighting, not necessarily martial arts, and most certainly not always martial artists.

Fighting is not martial arts, and martial arts is almost always not fighting with a few exceptions comparatively, with the UFC being one of those.

The issue at hand was that you don't like Anderson Silva because he doesn't practice martial arts in a way that you think is proper for a martial artist to act.

I agree, in the traditional sense, a martial artist wouldn't play the air guitar to taunt his opponent.

But I remain by my point, you aren't watching martial arts, you are watching the UFC, which features fighting, which can, but doesn't necessarily, feature martial artists.

So you don't like Anderson Silva because he doesn't act like a "martial artist". That is because he is a fighter who is fighting, not practicing martial arts.

In the end we agree with one another. Martial artists should act a certain way. That is part of the "art". The discipline.

Our only point of disagreement is that Anderson Silva isn't trying to be a martial artist, and thus shouldn't be judged for not acting like one. He is trying to be the best fighter in the world, and up until recently, did a very good job of it.

Edited to Add: However an extremely good, probably the best, example of a true martial artist who is also a fighter, would be GSP. That guy has managed to do/be both perfectly. He presents himself as such and claims to be such openly. If we wanted to judge him for being a douche, if he ever did anything douchebaggy, that would be more than fair and justified.


Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 22, 2013, 09:08:07 PM
Watched the Jones vs Gustafsson title fight. It was an incredibly good fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: KankWhisperer on October 20, 2013, 01:12:55 AM
Decent PPV. Go Cain.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 02, 2015, 08:49:58 AM
This Cormier vs Jones fight has turned me into a full fledged fanboy. I've watched every piece of Sherdog, or UFC media for the fight. I've watched every single one of their fights leading up to this.

I'm rooting for Cormier, for multiple reasons. Firstly he's the underdog. I love rooting for the underdog. Secondly he's so damn personable and nice, a real family man. He's jsut got a very likable personality.

I think Jon Jones is an excellent fighter, and he interacts so well with his fans. He still feels so young and energetic, it's great to watch him fight.

 I have no idea how this fight will go. I hope it will be back and forth, close. But I have a feeling that Jones will either win with strikes, or Cormier will press inside and make it a grind, a long slow "boring" match. I think it's much more likely Jon Jones will win, but the idea of seeing Cormier getting a couple takedowns and throws is really exciting to me. IF He can get inside without taking damage, and can exact his grappling game, I think he will have the upper hand.

I AM SO EXCITED FOR THIS FIGHT GUYS.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 02, 2015, 09:59:16 AM
I think Jones really hates Cormier, and I think Cormier is just playing into that and toying with Jones' mindset. I think Cormier is giving him the ole' Sonnen-bait.

Cormier isn't going to out strike Jones. Cormier might out wrestle Jones, but that is at best a 50/50 scenario. Both are dominant wrestlers. I don't think either of them come to the table with enough BJJ to make it a huge factor.

Cormier carries a lot of fat weight, and Jones could fight heavyweight and still be lean due to the natural size of his frame. Cormier can also fight heavyweight obviously, but.....he could also fight middleweight if he wanted to. Jones couldn't make middleweight without some serious health issues.

A lot of people don't realize the advantage ten pounds can give to you in a fight when both fighters are trained and skilled fighters. Sometimes that is the only edge that separates the two other than raw luck. (Especially when both fighters are wrestling-dominant fighters. It matters a bit less in a striking match.)

In the end I give the fight to Jones. His wrestling is strong enough that I can't imagine him being ragdolled by a smaller Cormier, and Cormier doesn't have the striking tools to put Jones out without a lot of luck. Anything can happen, but the smart money goes to Jones.

I think Gus has everything it takes and probably more to put him away.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 02, 2015, 12:02:51 PM
I think Cormier is going to come in stronger than Jones in this fight and be able to bully Jones like he hasn't been before. You don't see Olympic level takedowns like Cormier's often in MMA (unless you look at some Rousey fights!) It'll be interesting to see if Jones can weather the first two rounds.

If Cormier takes Jones down in the first two rounds I believe he's going to win the fight.

Apparently a lot of pros think that Cormier is going to win.

I would say Jones has a better chance of winning, overall. Because striking. (Elbows. Knees.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 04, 2015, 10:07:09 AM
Spoilers

It was an ok fight. Both seemed tired quicker than they should have been. Lots of uppercuts from DC that Jones just ate. Eyepokes were minimal. DC moved forward most of the fight. The first two rounds were close. Everything after that jones dominated, and he did well the first round too. Neither persons striking was very potent at that part. Lots of clinching, and good takedown defense by Jones. I was super excited the first two rounds, but when it became apparent DC had nothing sneaky planned, I lost some interest. One thing I noticed is both fighters are very similar, in ways,

I enjoyed watching The Cowboy literally start kicking Jury's ass at the end of his match way more though.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 07, 2015, 02:47:25 PM
Jon Jones is on cocaine. Wut?

Jon, y u snort dem sugurz?

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ635iHp-RCsINOn4IAf9Cz6pOc24l5Odw3oehfhga2CYOOJEss)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 07, 2015, 02:49:03 PM
Jon Jones is on cocaine. Wut?

Jon, y u snort dem sugurz?

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ635iHp-RCsINOn4IAf9Cz6pOc24l5Odw3oehfhga2CYOOJEss)
My wife broke this news to me.

Whelp, that's one way to cut weight. :D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 07, 2015, 02:52:28 PM
Jon Jones is on cocaine. Wut?

Jon, y u snort dem sugurz?

(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ635iHp-RCsINOn4IAf9Cz6pOc24l5Odw3oehfhga2CYOOJEss)
My wife broke this news to me.

Whelp, that's one way to cut weight. :D

Yeah, I like how during this exact timeframe he went from, "Heavyweight is a certainty as I age.", to, "I don't have any problem cutting weight these days, I don't think heavyweight is still a certainty.".

My chuckles.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 07, 2015, 04:59:48 PM
Now, Jon just needs to pick up Coke as a sponsor.

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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 07, 2015, 05:28:15 PM
What a shame.

It's also a shame the UFC ditched other fighters for illegal substances but haven't stripped or dropped Jones yet... and Jones also has that prior DUI.

I think his success has gotten to him, just a wee bit.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 07, 2015, 07:47:19 PM
UFC drops who it wants then uses things like weed as an excuse. The idea of them getting rid of their champ for this would be dumb. The UFC is hypocritical, but they're not dumb.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 07, 2015, 10:38:36 PM
Even more drama, apparently Jone's 'passed' drug test has T/E levels off.

https://twitter.com/KevinI/status/552922220969066496/photo/1 (https://twitter.com/KevinI/status/552922220969066496/photo/1)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 19, 2015, 12:14:00 AM
What a joke. Dennis at #10? That fight was a pathetic gimme to McGregor.

And Benson was robbed.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 19, 2015, 02:34:26 AM
What a joke. Dennis at #10? That fight was a pathetic gimme to McGregor.

And Benson was robbed.
I would really like to see Conor fight a Frankie Edgar or Chad Mendes before the title shot -- since I feel he needs the growth. But the money's with the title shot asap, so that's what is gonna happen.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 19, 2015, 03:03:07 AM
Freddie Prinze Jr. replied to my Tweet about Jose eating CM for breakfast. My life must be complete now or something. 8)

Anyway... I dunno. The money's wherever the most charismatic guys are. I get that. I just feel like it's turning into a circus. I'd watch wrestling if I wanted to see some of these antics.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 19, 2015, 09:36:30 AM
The only fight I enjoyed from the main card last night was scored wrong.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 19, 2015, 10:51:31 AM
The only fight I enjoyed from the main card last night was scored wrong.

If you're referring to Benson vs Cerrone -- nah. Benson has always had a style that means he's risking a loss at decisions. He doesn't have a style that makes it obvious he's controlling a fight.

If Benson doesn't put guys away he is particularly at risk for losing decisions. He's not a pressure fighter or a bully in the ring, despite being really active.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 23, 2015, 11:51:40 PM
Kangaroo rear naked choke. (These fuckers just get more and more creepy.)

(http://i.imgur.com/3mtgayT.gif)

That is all.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 24, 2015, 12:14:53 AM
Notice how he doesn't go for hooks. Very Blackstom-esque in his technique, Joe. You could say he's the Niklas Blackstom of the Kangaroo jujitsu world.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 27, 2015, 10:24:16 AM
Mirko Cro Cop, coming back to the UFC apparently. I want him to have a good run, but I know it is extremely unlikely. First opponent back...Gonzaga. I don't see this ending well for Mirko. 

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 27, 2015, 11:39:42 AM
They're both on the tail end of their own respective careers. I love them both, regardless.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on January 27, 2015, 02:46:03 PM
They're both on the tail end of their own respective careers. I love them both, regardless.

+1
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 05, 2015, 05:42:06 PM
Spelling error aside, I giggled hard!

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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on February 05, 2015, 05:52:21 PM
Is that the same guy who turned his leg in to a pool noodle on national television?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 05, 2015, 06:03:51 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on February 05, 2015, 06:06:45 PM
In that case, I don't know whether to think steroid use is somewhat understandable, or wonder why they didn't seem to do him very much good. Would depend on the date of juicing I suppose :P
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 05, 2015, 06:15:03 PM
In that case, I don't know whether to think steroid use is somewhat understandable, or wonder why they didn't seem to do him very much good. Would depend on the date of juicing I suppose :P

Breaking his leg was a rare freak accident, had nothing to do with steroids. I think it's pretty apparent most athletes in major competition juice, so I tend to just laugh at all the controversy around positive tests, much like with Armstrong.

As for their effect? It's widely accepted that an athlete on steroids is going to be better than one not. That shit works great, it just doesn't turn your bones into steel.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 05, 2015, 10:16:14 PM
Bonnar and Sonnen are two opponents that Silva has had that tested positive for steroids whereas Silva did not. Also, his prior 3 fights have been in Nevada which has stricter testing than say Brazil. (Hence, he got caught this time.) There was undoubtedly a lot of pressure for him coming back after the injury and I can understand why it happened, but I can't stay a Silva fan afterward. Really disappointed.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 05, 2015, 10:22:39 PM
Does the military use steroids and supplements? That seems like something they should be doing.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on February 05, 2015, 10:38:45 PM
There are a lot of good reasons not to use them. Backne, testicular shrinkage and psychosis being the top three I can think of.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 06, 2015, 01:42:03 AM
Bonnar and Sonnen are two opponents that Silva has had that tested positive for steroids whereas Silva did not. Also, his prior 3 fights have been in Nevada which has stricter testing than say Brazil. (Hence, he got caught this time.) There was undoubtedly a lot of pressure for him coming back after the injury and I can understand why it happened, but I can't stay a Silva fan afterward. Really disappointed.

I'm the same way.

RGS sounds so resigned to accepting that everyone does it so why not. I think that it's terrible that sports aren't about natural physicality but are now about who can abuse what and not get caught.

There was a documentary on steroids I watched a few years back... I'll have to ask manboog what the name of it was. The military, no one, for that matter, should use steroids; they're dangerous no matter which way you slice them.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 06, 2015, 01:54:49 AM
The only reason it's an issue is because it's poorly regulated. If they didn't regulate at all then the best would be the best. If they regulated right the best would just be the best without HGH. It's only a bad thing when you have some people using and others not, creating an unfair advantage.

That way it makes me feel better to think everyone at the top is juicing, even if they're not getting caught.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 06, 2015, 10:20:31 AM
The under-leagues of MMA are filled with juicers. I know a few clean fighters, but the majority I know will openly admit they juice. I even train with a few guys who aren't fighters who juice (which doesn't bother me) and are proud of the fact.

It is an issue of 85% of the guys doing it from the time they are fighting in the amateurs in a culture that widely but secretly accepts it as a common thing. By the time they get to the pro's, most of them have been on the test for so long they can't imagine getting off of it. It is just a part of their life and training.

I hear guys talk about their "cycles" so much I keep expecting them to all hit menopause eventually.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 06, 2015, 03:13:57 PM
Does the military use steroids and supplements? That seems like something they should be doing.
Lol no. Terrible idea.

As it is right now, steroids are treated like illegal drugs. If you pop on a piss test, you receive a bad conduct discharge.

To clarify: No, we shouldn't put a bunch of young aggressive men in a roid cycle then deploy them to austere environments just in time for their withdrawals.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 06, 2015, 11:16:14 PM
I have never really taken a great interest in kickboxing outside of MMA just as a raw sport in its own right. I watched a Glory event tonight, and I have to say, I think I will start tuning into them. I found it to be very interesting and entertaining.

I think the last time I watched "just" kickboxing was before I started training in kickboxing, so it makes sense I would appreciate it a lot more now.

The same can be said about boxing. I never liked watching it before I started training in it, and now I can enjoy it almost as much as watching a UFC event.

So, I recommend watching a Glory event for you folks who enjoy MMA and might have never given it a chance.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 06, 2015, 11:23:47 PM
The under-leagues of MMA are filled with juicers. I know a few clean fighters, but the majority I know will openly admit they juice. I even train with a few guys who aren't fighters who juice (which doesn't bother me) and are proud of the fact.

It is an issue of 85% of the guys doing it from the time they are fighting in the amateurs in a culture that widely but secretly accepts it as a common thing. By the time they get to the pro's, most of them have been on the test for so long they can't imagine getting off of it. It is just a part of their life and training.

I hear guys talk about their "cycles" so much I keep expecting them to all hit menopause eventually.

There's this dumb bitch, and yes, I rarely dislike a person so severely as to call them an ugly name just to be vicious, but regardless, this dumb bitch at work has a boyfriend who is all into peak wellness and fitness, whatever. They are like the persona of white trash wrapped up into one couple. Anyway - he openly admits to doing something illegal, much like the people you know (seriously, who the fuck admits to doing roids? Don't they expect to get caught??), and then complains when he can't get his dumb bitch girlfriend pregnant, even though they're still living at his mother's house, and he's living on the dime of both dumb bitch and dumb mom.

Anyway - I just never have understood why people admit to doing something that's not only illegal, but stupid, and physically, and mentally, crippling after a while.

Anderson's definitely lost some of that... for a lack of a better descriptor, ethereal quality, for me.

So! I'm super saddened now. I haven't been following the UFC as closely as I had been and this probably seals the deal for me.

I don't care to watch the little guys fight all that much and I don't honestly care for female MMA unless it's Cyborg (who is also tainted by steroids), so... yeah.

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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 08, 2015, 10:26:02 AM
wtf you aren't a Rousey fan? Go watch some Rousey fights, boog.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 08, 2015, 11:36:28 PM
I hate her attitude. I hate anyone that acts like the Diaz brothers. Gross!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on February 09, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
Does the military use steroids and supplements? That seems like something they should be doing.
Lol no. Terrible idea.

As it is right now, steroids are treated like illegal drugs. If you pop on a piss test, you receive a bad conduct discharge.

To clarify: No, we shouldn't put a bunch of young aggressive men in a roid cycle then deploy them to austere environments just in time for their withdrawals.

I dunno, man.  After being with 3rd recon on ship....All I know is they were way, way, way, way, way, way, way bigger than any dude I ever saw from 1st recon.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 09, 2015, 03:35:35 PM
That's because they don't hike in 3rd Recon.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: valeria on February 11, 2015, 08:44:43 AM
My personal trainer is going professional MMA in June (after years of amateur).  I'm kind of excited for him and may actually go watch his last amateur fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 11, 2015, 09:51:06 AM
My personal trainer is going professional MMA in June (after years of amateur).  I'm kind of excited for him and may actually go watch his last amateur fight.

What's his name?

Also, Cerrone has fought four times in five months and won all four. That's a pretty ridiculous fight pace. Especially for three of those to have gone the distance and he's already back in the mix for a fight again in May.

Guy is a machine. I hope his body keeps holding up to the pace because I enjoy his fights.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: valeria on February 12, 2015, 08:08:45 AM
Kory Wertz (http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/f/C8B881D14709BA42/Kory-Wertz/).  I'm not sure what weight class ~150 lbs is, but that would be his weight class.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 19, 2015, 07:12:41 AM
Hate to get my hopes up when injuries are so possible within the next 3 months, but...

Jon Jones Vs Anthony Johnson, Chris Weidman vs Vitor Belfort and Khabib vs Cowboy in the same goddamn night.

That's one hell of a card.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on February 19, 2015, 10:05:35 AM
Hate to get my hopes up when injuries are so possible within the next 3 months, but...

Jon Jones Vs Anthony Johnson, Chris Weidman vs Vitor Belfort and Khabib vs Cowboy in the same goddamn night.

That's one hell of a card.



Interested to see the outcome of Jones and Johnson. I fully expect Belfort to fail his piss test even if he beats Weidman, and for some reason Weidman just doesn't do anything for me. I don't dislike or like him. His name on a card does nothing for me. Khabib is just going to lay on top of Cowboy for three rounds or get knocked out when he starts winging wild punches. I expect it to be a bit of a snore-fest to a wrestling decision where Khabib gets the nod and Cowboy walks away without a scratch on him but still a loss on his record.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 19, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
I actually see the Cowbow vs Khabib match being a close grappling match with some strikes peppered in, in which Khabib wins by a close margin but the judges give it to Cowboy anyways.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 19, 2015, 12:00:30 PM
http://sherdog.com/news/news/UFC-Introduces-Revamped-Drug-Testing-Advocates-Harsher-Penalties-for-Positive-Tests-82013

Yay.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on March 01, 2015, 05:25:29 PM
Well that was fast.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on March 01, 2015, 05:35:09 PM
Rousey has no competition, unfortunately. Cyborg can't/won't make 135. They're talking about Holly Holm like she's going to contend but she's at least 3-4 fights from being ready for a title shot against Rowdy. She looked good last night but not in the same league as Rowdy. Even the opponents that are considered in Rowdy's "league" get demolished.

She is truly special. And she's alarmingly normal looking/acting in person when she doesn't have her kill face on. Cool lady. I don't buy into the Rowdy hate being spewed by folks that can't fathom a strong female who has an opinion. (p.s. I saw her at UFC Expo last year.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 27, 2015, 01:05:48 AM
Damn. I loved that DJ Mighty Mouse vs Horiguchi fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 27, 2015, 01:08:06 AM
Yeah, I was impressed with how GSPesque Mighty Mouse dominated. Only it was less boring than a GSP domination.

Also:
Jon Jones fleeing the scene of a car accident with coke in the car? lolwut
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on April 29, 2015, 10:15:51 AM
Jon Jones, stripped of the UFC LHW title.

I didn't expect them to take that stance. For the best for everyone and most of all probably Jon Jones himself.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 29, 2015, 10:19:24 AM
Jon Jones, stripped of the UFC LHW title.

I didn't expect them to take that stance. For the best for everyone and most of all probably Jon Jones himself.
Felony charges will do that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on April 29, 2015, 10:37:29 AM
Jon Jones, stripped of the UFC LHW title.

I didn't expect them to take that stance. For the best for everyone and most of all probably Jon Jones himself.
Felony charges will do that.

I expected them to wait and see what sort of punishment he got and possibly do their best to mitigate the extent of the punishment if they could in hopes of keeping their money-maker around. I was surprised they actually stepped up and did the right thing immediately.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 29, 2015, 10:40:38 AM
Naw, he's gonna have a felony charge. No way around that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 01, 2015, 06:37:53 PM
He'll likely be slapped on the wrist, take a fine and get 100-200 hours community service, then be back in a year (or less) and will draw a huge crowd because of the drama and "comeback story". And the UFC will make so much goddamn money.


I'm excited for Rumble vs Cormier.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on May 07, 2015, 09:55:58 AM
That Reebok deal.....what a joke.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 24, 2015, 07:20:44 PM
So, last nights main card was fucking beautiful.

Check out this cowboy .gif  (no fight spoiler)

http://gfycat.com/ConsiderateDeepBoa (http://gfycat.com/ConsiderateDeepBoa)

That is some beautiful shit. Watch the way the impact wave travels down his arm into his left breast.

That fight was awesome and there were like 2-3 other fighters just as good or better. Every fight went the way I wanted it do. Preliminary fights were okay too.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 19, 2015, 11:33:29 AM
Shamrock vs Kimbo tonight for free on Spike.

I should be horribly ashamed that I am going to watch this. In fact, I can't wait. Neither of these old guys should be in a cage fighting. But, I can't look away. I just can't. I have to watch it. It's a glorious train wreck waiting to happen on rails greased with slick morbid curiosity that can't be stopped by any force of man or nature.

I saw this quote about Shamrock these days, and just had to laugh. "The dude carries a Bible and a Glock, and feels they have equal sway in morality.".

Have you seen Shamrock though? This man is 51 years old.

(http://static0.thesportsterimages.com/cdn/660/400/90/cw/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/shamrock-51-years-old.jpg)

This guy is so completely jacked to the gills on gear I will be surprised if he doesn't bleed pure test when he gets cut in this fight.

I can't look away.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: valeria on June 19, 2015, 01:04:33 PM
If two older guys want to get into a cage and beat the shit out of each other and feel young again, I say more power to them.  The closed head injuries they could possibly attain will affect a lower percentage of their entire life though, so maybe that makes it less entertaining.  ;)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 19, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
If two older guys want to get into a cage and beat the shit out of each other and feel young again, I say more power to them.  The closed head injuries they could possibly attain will affect a lower percentage of their entire life though, so maybe that makes it less entertaining.  ;)

They haven't actually discovered any MMA fighters with long-term brain injuries typically associated with sports like boxing, or American football for example.

The gloves are so small that they really only serve to protect the hand, and not the head. If you get with a hard enough shot to cause potential repeated blunt force trauma, it isn't repeated, because you are knocked out and the fight is over. With sports like boxing and American football, you can take that cushioned blunt force trauma repeatedly hundreds of times in a single fight/game and never get knocked out....so you are still in the game/fight to get hit more, and more, and more.

It's certainly not a "safe" sport, but, we can't start associating brain trauma with it just yet until we start seeing some real measurable data on it.

As it stands, there are more brain injuries associated with driving a car every year...a lot more...than there are with MMA.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: valeria on June 19, 2015, 05:42:25 PM
My comment was mostly tongue in cheek (hence the smiley), but...

There are also a lot more people that drive cars.  I don't know about professional, but I've seen at least a couple of amateurs pulled for being concussed/knocked out.  There is a correlation between concussions and traumatic brain injuries.  I wouldn't say MMA is as or more dangerous and football or boxing, and MMA hasn't really been a big thing for long enough for there to be any specific studies, but I think the general correlation will probably hold.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 19, 2015, 08:53:16 PM
My comment was mostly tongue in cheek (hence the smiley), but...

There are also a lot more people that drive cars.  I don't know about professional, but I've seen at least a couple of amateurs pulled for being concussed/knocked out.  There is a correlation between concussions and traumatic brain injuries.  I wouldn't say MMA is as or more dangerous and football or boxing, and MMA hasn't really been a big thing for long enough for there to be any specific studies, but I think the general correlation will probably hold.

Well, I've been involved at the amateur level for eight years (at the pro-level if you count all of the pro-fighters I train with/help train). From everything I have learned and experienced, I'll stick with what I know until they somehow find that one fighter one day to use as "proof"....which they never have.

I know you aren't super serious, but I used to field/sometimes still get to/have to field these questions to people who are just starting or are thinking about starting.

I recommend you give it a try. You might like it. I know a lot of ladies who love it. Take some BJJ classes, or fundamental Muy Thai classes, they won't even punch you in the face or anything and I promise, you will feel great.  :)

(I get people constantly who are scared of getting punched in the face. It isn't like they are going to throw you to the sharks on day one, and never will, unless you decide you want them to.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 19, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
............That felt like such a work.

The whole crawling on his stomach shit while caught in a "deep" rear-naked choke and refusing to tap....I've seen better acting to "get out of the hold" in the WWE.

I wonder how much Shamrock got paid to throw that fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 20, 2015, 12:22:38 AM
What the fuck was that shit. Nobody in the world is going to believe he couldn't finish that choke. All he had to do is lock his arm and squeeze, instead he handed that arm to Kimbo and said "Here's your escape."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 20, 2015, 12:57:32 AM
What the fuck was that shit. Nobody in the world is going to believe he couldn't finish that choke. All he had to do is lock his arm and squeeze, instead he handed that arm to Kimbo and said "Here's your escape."

Yup. 100%
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 20, 2015, 10:43:14 AM
In case you guys forgot that Joanna Jedrzejcyk is fighting today (in 4'ish hours from this post.) UFC Fight pass, you can start a free 7 day trial. She's awesome. Hype video below.

https://youtu.be/R3ytFkkjcQ0
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 20, 2015, 11:00:35 AM
I think this fight is going to be closer than everyone is making it out to be. Joanna is awesome, and her last fight was ridiculously one-sided. But they're not all going to be like that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on June 20, 2015, 11:07:02 AM
Slice beat up a geriatric Shamrock and had to put the fix on it to assure victory. Bellator is a joke.

UFC is falling down the toilet lately into pro-wrestling land ads well. It sickens and depresses me.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 20, 2015, 11:17:29 AM
I think this fight is going to be closer than everyone is making it out to be. Joanna is awesome, and her last fight was ridiculously one-sided. But they're not all going to be like that.
Penne's takedowns aren't good enough to get it to the floor imo.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 20, 2015, 11:23:58 AM
UFC is falling down the toilet lately into pro-wrestling land ads well. It sickens and depresses me.

Eh, depends on the fight matchups, like it always has.

I think this fight is going to be closer than everyone is making it out to be. Joanna is awesome, and her last fight was ridiculously one-sided. But they're not all going to be like that.
Penne's takedowns aren't good enough to get it to the floor imo.

I think you're right, and that Jo will win. I just feel like it will be a decision instead of the clinic she put on Correia.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 20, 2015, 05:09:19 PM
That was destruction.

(http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20150620021701_IMG_1277.JPG)

(http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20150620021701_IMG_1297.JPG)

(http://www4.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20150620021702_IMG_1305.JPG)

The UFC needs to start advertising this woman hard.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 21, 2015, 01:24:15 AM
I was so wrong.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 21, 2015, 01:30:27 AM
p.s. Correia is the woman about to face Rousey, not JJ's last victim. JJ's last victim was Esparza.

Double wrong.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 30, 2015, 06:29:16 PM
Quote
Correia told Combate the following during a recent interview.

"Ronda talks about being a superwoman, a hero, but is a woman like me. Actually, I’m way stronger, I come from an underdeveloped country, where people fight to survive. It’s a lot different form the reality of her life. Under pressure, she’s showing she’s weak. When mommy put some pressure, she ran away from home. When she lost, she did drugs. That’s not a super hero. I want to see her reaction when I put some pressure against her. I want her to feel pressure and realize that I’m ready to fight her. She doesn’t have a good head, she needs to get help. There are a lot of people around her, she’s winning, but when she realizes that’s not everything, I don’t know what might happen. I hope she doesn’t commit suicide [laughs]."

Rousey responded to the controversial remark on Twitter. Rousey's father committed suicide when she was younger.


Quote from: Ronda's tweet response
@bethecorreia suicide is no joke or selling point. My father will be with me the day I hand you the comeuppance you deserve.

(https://mmainfographics.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/rouseyvscorreia.jpg?w=670)

She gonn' get REKT.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: awkward on June 30, 2015, 06:42:24 PM
Word.

Love me some Ronda Rousey. Fuck that statement about her not having a good head, she is just a warrior to an extent we are not used to seeing from a woman and she is exceptional in that and many other regards.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 01, 2015, 10:00:20 AM
That's not how Bethe looks.....

This is how Bethe looks.

(http://cdn.mmaweekly.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Bethe-Correia-UFC-177-post-press-750x370.jpg)

(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/cHd4ivi-xQLT_KyFg_Dbf0GcoVE=/84x28:1484x961/730x487/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/45797962/003_Bethe_Correia.0.0.jpg)

They shaved about sixteen inches off of her steroid induced wide-angle jaw. I'm fine with doing a little photoshop on your stars to get rid of small blemishes and make their hair more shiny or whatever....but they built that steroid monster a new face.

That aside, Ronda is going to roflstomp her. Looking forward to it. I would also put money down in Vegas Correia fails her drug test with flying colors.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 01, 2015, 12:57:15 PM
I'm still waiting for Cyborg and Ronda to fight.

I think RR is a good fighter. But she's a grade A dink when it comes to attitude and personality.

Did Bethe know about Ronda's dad? I didn't, but that's because I don't care to get to know her story the way I know like, Big Nog's.

Regardless- Bethe is gonna die.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 01, 2015, 01:37:03 PM
Cyborg will never make that weight.

I think Rhonda is just selling tickets, I don't think she cares about Bethe's comment, because it was clearly not meant the way Rhonda is taking it.

Either way I'd love to see a competitive fight and not a trouncing.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: BadSkeelz on July 01, 2015, 01:46:22 PM
Either way I'd love to see a competitive fight and not a trouncing.

As someone who only became interested in this fight (or the sport in general) when Bethe tried to put down 'murica, I respectfully disagree.

USA! USA! USA!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 01, 2015, 03:00:00 PM
Ronda is a -1100 betting favorite if that tells you how it is going to go.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 01, 2015, 03:27:46 PM
Not a horribly big surprise.

Ronda - 11 Wins, all by stoppage. (All but 1 happened in the first round. 7 of these happened in under one minute.)

Bethe - 9 Wins, 7 by decision.


That is an insane stoppage rate. Most people don't realize exactly what that means. Fundamentally it means Ronda Rousey killed other trained fighters with her bare hands elven times in a row at a pro level. The only reason those other fighters did not die, is a ref stopped her before she ended them. A stoppage means Ronda had them in a position to kill them while they had zero ability to prevent it, and a ref said, "Nope, fight is over.", before death happened.

Seven of those it took her less than a minute to get "the kill".

Four of those it took her less than 30 seconds.

Seven of her eleven fights were title defenses or winning a title. That means her opponent was literally the best female fighter in her weight class in the world, aside from herself, seven times of the eleven she's fought, and she still got the kill every time.

Bethe has 7 decisions out of 9 fights. A decision is when both fighters can't get "the kill" and the fight is stopped before either fighter can "end it". None of Bethe's fights have been for a title or against a number one contender.

If Bethe was coming in with 9 fights, 9 wins, and 9 finishes, I might be convinced it was going to be anything but a one-sided beat down....Bethe, you simply aren't ready.


Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 01, 2015, 04:03:58 PM
As for the Cyborg question.

She has 13 wins - Two of these were decisions. - All of them were against women who were naturally smaller than her due to the amount of test she has been shooting for however many years now.

The only reason anyone finds this fight interesting is because it is as close as we will ever see Ronda Rousey get to fighting a man due to the amount of gear that has been pumped into Cyborg over the years in a highly unregulated and untested Brazilian fight market where steroids are the norm and not only not illegal, but commonly accepted. There are no rules against them. You can fight in Brazil juiced absolutely out of your gourd, and you will never even take a pee test.

I don't blame Cyborg for being part of the steroid fight culture. In Brazil, it is expected and legal even in competition. She was born into that. That is where she's from. It's who she is now.

That doesn't change the fact of it.

The Ronda/Cyborg fight is interesting for the same reason it's fun to talk about Ronda fighting men at the same weight class just to, "See how she would do.".

I don't blame Ronda for not fighting her for the same reason I don't blame Ronda for not wanting to fight Renan Barao.

(http://asiasportsnetwork.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/640-Header-w-Cris-Cyborg_large_huge.jpg)

Edited to Add: I would still watch the crap out of it, because like everyone else, I kind of do, "Just want to see how it would go.".
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 01, 2015, 04:56:59 PM
Upvote for the Barao mention. I can't wait to see him fight TJ again. Dude is a monster with that crazy win streak he had.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 01, 2015, 06:01:29 PM
Except Ronda will fight Floyd and  other dudes.

Just not Cyborg.

Meh. I've come to the conclusion that most people juice that are in the industry. I give up. :(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 01, 2015, 08:49:09 PM
Except Ronda will fight Floyd and  other dudes.


Umm, no she won't.

Unless you are referencing where she said if she did, she would crawl over to him on her belly....obviously joking.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 02, 2015, 07:07:33 AM
Fights I want to see really badly:

Jacare vs The Chris AND Jacare vs Rockhold.

Rafael Dos Anjos Vs Khabib II

Barao vs TJ Dillashaw


Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 12, 2015, 12:47:16 AM
What a fucking great night of fights. That was worth buying, I would have paid more.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 12, 2015, 12:54:32 AM
(http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20150710052837_6DX_0148.JPG)

FTW


Here we come, McGregor V Aldo!

(http://cdn.crossmap.com/images/2/74/27431.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 12, 2015, 07:22:34 AM
Great fights all night. Between this and 187 it's been my favorite year of UFC.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 12, 2015, 12:10:59 PM
Just so everyone is aware how bloody this card was.
(http://i.imgur.com/tNBVopi.jpg?1)

Just before the stoppage. (editted and found one with a liver kick just prior to the punches.)
(http://i.imgur.com/IlG7So3.gif)

Shattering nose.
(http://media.giphy.com/media/lCzrsWjtIpCGA/giphy.gif)

edit:

Conor's straight left is on point.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-oZdDF-h1Knc/VA5DPL6dytI/AAAAAAAAA4k/iClxPlM_FL0/s1600/cross%2Bcounters.gif)

Definitely one of the few UFC cards I don't regret spending $60 on. I usually go out but now that we have babby that's more difficult. Glad this turned out to be great.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 14, 2015, 08:54:17 PM
Hahahah

http://i.imgur.com/OhZ0ppP.gifv
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 14, 2015, 10:22:01 PM
I'm an official Conor fan now. He has beautiful striking, and comes off as a genuinely nice person and fan of the sport whether he wins or loses. And then he's got that confidence and trash talk to hype the fights.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 16, 2015, 01:11:50 AM
First round knockout by Mir....I did not expect it, but damn it was nice to see. Good job Mir.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 16, 2015, 09:35:55 AM
https://vine.co/v/eria3eAYmQQ
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 17, 2015, 02:21:43 PM
I'm an official Conor fan now. He has beautiful striking, and comes off as a genuinely nice person and fan of the sport whether he wins or loses. And then he's got that confidence and trash talk to hype the fights.

Yeah, he's actually a nice guy. He's just playing the game. Just like Chael Sonnen. Neither of them are/were ever mean or hateful people....they just play to win.

It's a fist fight. There are a few ways to approach it, and they choose to approach it like a fight instead of a sport. Both approaches can be entertaining.

I do think he loses to Aldo if Aldo ever fights him.

I see Aldo taking him to a decision, or putting him away after the 3rd round. I would love to see Connor win. He is infinitely more entertaining than Aldo and having him as champ would be great for that division. I just don't see it happening though.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 24, 2015, 11:46:08 PM
To get yourself prepared for the upcoming Baron fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwP04-diHtc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwP04-diHtc)

And:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kHnKkEIiXY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kHnKkEIiXY)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 02, 2015, 01:12:35 AM
Nice to see Shogun in there looking good.


edit: Jesus christ. I love watching Ronda fight. She's not just on another level she's 2-3 levels ahead. 
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 02, 2015, 01:33:13 AM
34seconds.gif
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 02, 2015, 01:44:36 AM
"Goes down like she got hit by a sniper." (http://streamable.com/8di2)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 02, 2015, 01:51:06 AM
Damn, you take so many roids you end up with a man-beast jaw, and you still get dropped in 34. Sucks to be you. Upside, watching you get the dead drop faceplant made watching some of the other slow fights on that card worth it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: bartenderer on August 02, 2015, 02:14:40 AM
34 seconds! USA!!!!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on August 02, 2015, 02:49:55 PM
The Nogs seriously need to stop letting themselves get punched and kicked in the head.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 02, 2015, 02:50:34 PM
The Nogs seriously need to stop letting themselves get punched and kicked in the head.
They've reached that point of being much too old to move around.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 02, 2015, 03:18:27 PM
old in the sport, yeah.

It was rough for me to watch last night.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on August 02, 2015, 04:25:09 PM
34seconds.gif

http://i.imgur.com/YkTlcUx.gifv
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on August 13, 2015, 05:09:51 PM
Cowboy getting his shot in December. Looking forward to it. Guy is on an eight fight tear. He's tied Maynard for the most consecutive wins in the division history. If he wins the title he not only gets the title, he gets the record.

Guy is a machine. He's not the favorite going in, but it would be great to see him get the title after all of his hard work.

Also it is free on Fox...which makes it double plus good.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 24, 2015, 10:28:51 PM
Esophageal tear. Holy shit.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 23, 2015, 02:30:12 PM
Today Tank Abbot challenged Ronda Rousey to a fight.

I am both amused and saddened.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Synthesis on September 23, 2015, 05:13:34 PM
Today Tank Abbot challenged Ronda Rousey to a fight.

I am both amused and saddened.

The only thing Tank Abbott is notable for is getting his ass beat by notable fighters.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 27, 2015, 01:03:24 AM
Roy Nelson's struggling panting though.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 05, 2015, 08:20:19 PM
I'm so hyped for Aldo vs Mcgregor and Rockhold vs Weidman.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 05, 2015, 08:59:00 PM
I hope Aldo shuts that stupid douche up for good. OMG, I can't stand him. And wouldn't it suck to be Dana, to have your two biggest, LOUDEST, cash cows, be knocked to high heaven in a row? Oh, I would do a little jig.

I like Rockhold. I don't know that he can take Weidman, but as a matter of personal tastes, I prefer Luke.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 05, 2015, 09:21:08 PM
Gee, I wonder why.  ;)



(http://a1.fssta.com/content/dam/fsdigital/fscom/UFC/images/2014/11/15/111514-UFC-luke-rockhold-ahn-PI.vadapt.955.high.41.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/09/39/4f/09394fee56a5790940db878d2b16124a.jpg)
(http://www3.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20120713072957_003_Luke_Rockhold2.JPG)

I think we all prefer Luke.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 05, 2015, 10:15:55 PM
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Also, I mean, the fact that Weidman slaughtered one of my favorite fighters of all time and turned his fucking shin to jello makes me want to see him get banged up a little.

But yeah.

Luke's... umm, appearance, helps things out, too.

 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 05, 2015, 11:39:31 PM
Rooting for McGregor.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 06, 2015, 12:34:16 AM
I want an epic fight, with Aldo winning in the 5th, but that wont ever happen.

Betting money is on Aldo by decision. My brain says Conar wins in the third round by KO.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 06, 2015, 12:42:15 AM
Agh, really!? I certainly hope not. I've never been dazzled by Conor's ability. Maybe my view of his skill is tarnished by his brand of loud mouthed fuckery.

I'll go watch some old fights of his tomorrow and see if my opinion changes. I hold Aldo in very high esteem and I certainly think he's one of the best fighters the sport has ever seen. But, he's SO plagued by injuries. I seriously have been waiting to hear an announcement from his camp again, stating he broke something, or tore something again.

Bah!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 06, 2015, 01:19:16 AM
Conor is a very creative and impressive striker. He's not orthodox in his angles or approach to the game. Very fun to watch. It'll be a good fight hopefully.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 12, 2015, 10:04:48 AM
I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED GUYS

Warming up on some Frankie Edgar vs Chad Mendes.

Aldo looked like a beast compared to Conar during weigh ins. Conar was like a damn skeleton, he should really move up in weight. Funny thing though is Conar looked better this time around than the last couple.

I'm hyped sooooo much for this. I've got it all riding on Aldo. The most money I've ever made a bet with... $5
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 12, 2015, 10:08:01 PM
"He says he trains with jabronies! I guess we'll see what he means later!" -Mike Goldberg
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 12, 2015, 10:30:22 PM
Fuck Mcgregor. The day he put hands on the belt without winning it, he lost every possible ounce of respect from me. Aldo by decision.

Excited for Weidman and Rockhold. I like them both, but my heart says Weidman by KO.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 12, 2015, 10:51:14 PM
Fuck Mcgregor. The day he put hands on the belt without winning it, he lost every possible ounce of respect from me. Aldo by decision.

Excited for Weidman and Rockhold. I like them both, but my heart says Weidman by KO.

You're my MMA watching best friend!

Also, am I the only person that likes or dislikes some fighters based on their walk in music? Because that happens sometimes all the time. It's the reason that I still love Gonzaga, even though he's not been impressive in years. He walks out to fucking DANZIG. C'mon now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 12, 2015, 11:16:50 PM
I will completely turn my back on a fighter with a stupid haircut or lame walkout music. I always hated GSP because of his entrance theme. French rap? Seriously.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 12, 2015, 11:18:43 PM
I will completely turn my back on a fighter with a stupid haircut or lame walkout music. I always hated GSP because of his entrance theme. French rap? Seriously.

I didn't like Demian Maia to begin with. Now I dislike him more because... Linkin Park. I mean - is Brasil like Japan? Do they get our music 50 years later? *stare*
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 13, 2015, 01:11:59 AM
(https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12357242_483213071883672_8757105758572713138_o.jpg)

Called it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 13, 2015, 01:17:34 AM
mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

I called... the other one? :x
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 13, 2015, 02:35:48 AM
I was very impressed by Rockhold. Post-fight I saw who was in his camp and then I was like "Oh. That makes sense. He has like 4 world class grapplers helping him."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 13, 2015, 06:26:48 AM
Rockhold went out and dominated, but it took him a while to get going. Do you think he will do the same to Yoel? And god damn, Yoel is some sort of biologically engineered hybrid.  I may have lost 5 on the main event but it was perfect. All that hype deflated like a whoopee-cushion under an elephants ass. 

We better see Frankie fight Conar really soon. I'm now aboard the hype train.
Quote from: Random Reddit Quote
I know, right? It's just like in a samurai movie when two guys face each other down and then they charge and there's a single stroke and one dude falls.
Awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 14, 2015, 10:24:43 AM
I didn't expect that to end that way. I actually expected Jose to win but wanted Connor to win. It is going to be good for the UFC, MMA, and especially that division.

He's also actually a very respectful and humble guy when he's not doing his job of creating an entertaining story for television....which is his job and is the only reason these tickets get sold. Keep that in mind. Jose didn't sell those tickets. Jose was never a ticket seller. The guy is a damn beast in the cage and I absolutely enjoyed watching him fight personally, but the "casual fan" didn't. The UFC needs those casual fan ticket sales. Those people buy tickets because of guys like Chael Sonnen and Connor.

You can hate him for the character he is creating, but that really only works if you yourself fool yourself into thinking it's anything but a character, in which case....that just means he's doing a great job.


(I want to see Frankie beat him. I just like Frankie. I feel like Frankie deserves it just for being Frankie.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 14, 2015, 12:26:21 PM
Frankie doesn't sell tickets, either.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 14, 2015, 08:34:59 PM
Frankie doesn't sell tickets, either.

I don't care. I just like Frankie. I want him to win for an entirely different reason.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 14, 2015, 08:48:29 PM
Frankie doesn't sell tickets, either.

I don't care. I just like Frankie. I want him to win for an entirely different reason.

Like how I wanted Aldo to win? :p
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 14, 2015, 09:09:04 PM
Frankie doesn't sell tickets, either.

I don't care. I just like Frankie. I want him to win for an entirely different reason.

Like how I wanted Aldo to win? :p

*shrug*

I like Aldo too and enjoy watching him fight personally.

I'm not sure, but I think you think I am disagreeing with you about something.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 14, 2015, 09:34:55 PM
I was applying the logic you used on me about Aldo to Frankie. That's all! :)

They're both great fighters, but they're not know for their heel type shenanigans that apparently sells tickets.

I suppose that's my biggest problem with MMA right now: you have to be a loud mouthed showboat to draw in the sales of the mouth breather, potato IQ audience, which sadly, makes up a large percentage of this country these days.

I dunno. On the whole, the dumbing down of story lines in the UFC to wrestling type asshattery makes me sad for the future on an existential level.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 14, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
I was applying the logic you used on me about Aldo to Frankie. That's all! :)

They're both great fighters, but they're not know for their heel type shenanigans that apparently sells tickets.

I suppose that's my biggest problem with MMA right now: you have to be a loud mouthed showboat to draw in the sales of the mouth breather, potato IQ audience, which sadly, makes up a large percentage of this country these days.

I dunno. On the whole, the dumbing down of story lines in the UFC to wrestling type asshattery makes me sad for the future on an existential level.

Connor, Chael, even Ronda to an extent legitimately make people angry. They make people hate them. That's the psychological game at play.

It's been that way in the fight game since the beginning of the fight game.

This sort of thing goes all of the way back to the very early days of boxing. This is not a new thing. This is just the first time the general public has got to see it on a world-wide in-every-household scale if you weren't a professional boxing fan.

It's not being dumbed down to "wrestling", it's falling into line with every other major fighting promotion in history throughout all of combat sports.

The difference? These guys are just really good at it and the UFC is really good about promoting it so you hear about it even if you aren't a fight fan...and then you become one.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 14, 2015, 10:52:24 PM
Shutting down the #1 p4p fighter in 13 seconds is about as legit as it gets.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 14, 2015, 11:08:13 PM
I'm not disputing competency at all. I just think that humble skill is more attention grabbing than fuckery. That's it.

If I wanted to listen to constant trash talking or self ego stroking, I'd watch WWE. It just has become silly to me, because to me, it goes against the culture of martial arts to begin with. And the shenanigans pander to people who watch only to see said trash talk, who are the same ones that can't appreciate a world class grappling match, or whine when BJJ fighters are rolling on the mat because they look like homos.

Anyway, I've said my piece! I'm looking forward to Cruz fighting, and Condit, too.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 14, 2015, 11:43:47 PM
I dunno. That's kind of like saying Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson are against the spirit of combat sports.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: roughneck on December 15, 2015, 06:43:11 AM
I dunno. That's kind of like saying Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson are against the spirit of combat sports.

Both Ali and Tyson had a genuineness and authenticity to their trash talking that most mma showmen do not. Ali truly believed what he said and Tyson just can't help himself. They meant what they said in press conferences, they weren't just pandering to a fat bald white guy to get a few more bucks.

Either way, trash talking has become kind of empty to me, for the most part, because as soon as the fight is over they switch gears. I'm all for some hate, but fucking mean what you say and stand by it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 15, 2015, 07:54:09 AM
I dunno. That's kind of like saying Muhammad Ali or Mike Tyson are against the spirit of combat sports.

Both Ali and Tyson had a genuineness and authenticity to their trash talking that most mma showmen do not. Ali truly believed what he said and Tyson just can't help himself. They meant what they said in press conferences, they weren't just pandering to a fat bald white guy to get a few more bucks.

Either way, trash talking has become kind of empty to me, for the most part, because as soon as the fight is over they switch gears. I'm all for some hate, but fucking mean what you say and stand by it.

Agreed. When it's all for show, it means less. I mean, shit, I don't much like the Diaz brothers, but at least they don't flip flop more than a greasy, lifer politician.

And, I've never watched boxing much, so I don't know much about its culture. But BJJ and tae kwon do, for instance, both have philosophies of respect woven into the art. That's what I was referring to when I spoke of martial arts' culture.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 15, 2015, 10:23:24 AM
All fighters are martial artists, but not all martial artists are fighters.

There is a huge difference in the two.

You can go to any "Family Fun Time Dojo" around town and find dozens of martial artists, but you are extremely unlikely to find any fighters.

It's human cockfighting. There is no way around that. It's two men (and now women) stepping into a cage with the intent to cause as much physical harm as they can to the other individual (short of death, most of the time) for pride, glory, and money.....There are some exceptions to this given specific circumstances and individuals, but on the whole, that's what the sport is.

Some guys talk trash for the camera. Some talk trash to psyche themselves up for what they are going to go through. Some talk trash because they NEED to hate the other guy for 15-25 minutes to be able to do what they need to do. Some guys talk trash to try and intimidate who they will be fighting.

Yes, there is something great about the guys who just roll in casual as a cucumber and drop mad bombs on bitches. I'm right there with you. That group arguably is a name-of-names list of guys too. GSP, Anderson Silva, DMJ, JDS.

Hate who you want. That's part of the fun of being a fan.

I however enjoy both sides of it. I appreciate the skill involved because I'm someone who has been there and seen it and been through it. I also appreciate the showmanship, because that's also part of the sport, and it's also fun. Just because someone appreciates the showmanship they aren't a "mouth breather who calls BJJ practitioners fags".
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 15, 2015, 10:25:45 AM
Tyson just can't help himself.

This cracked me up. He had some awesome one-liners.

I recall him being in more than one press conference and a female reporter would ask him a question. He would dead-pan stare at her and ask her: "Have we ever fornicated?"....Of course she would say "No."...."Then don't ask me questions.".

There's that moment where you wonder, "Is this guy serious?"....then you realize...."He's dead serious."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Large Hero on December 15, 2015, 11:02:53 AM
"I'm in the Zoloft to keep me from killin y'all."

"I felt his tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous that these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."

"I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 15, 2015, 02:17:14 PM
"I'm in the Zoloft to keep me from killin y'all."

"I felt his tissues collapse under my force. It's ludicrous that these mortals even attempt to enter my realm."

"I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah."

The thing that makes it funny his Tyson's voice.

Both he and Anderson Silva have such "That voice doesn't fit him", voices.

I'm also glad to see Tyson able to move on in his older "after the ring" days to be able to do something outside of fighting. If you told me he would be doing movies and his own cartoons and things of that nature back when he was Iron Mike destroying folks and not apologizing for it....I would have told you that you were crazy. 
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 15, 2015, 04:34:55 PM
McGregor has been breaking records because of the hype he generates. He creates interest because he seems to genuinely believe his own hype. And I'm pretty sure he made a believer of everyone else that saw that fight.

He's good for the sport.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 19, 2015, 10:12:01 PM
Tonight was bittersweet. I like Dos, but I have been hoping to see Overeem come up for years.

Cowboy got crushed. :(

And as much as I despise Nate the crackhead, he looked terrific.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 20, 2015, 05:22:47 AM
Nate looked great, imo. Not like a crackhead really. In the second round when he landed three 1-2's in a row, all while pointing at Johnson's face and clowning around... Definitely the highlight of the night.



RDA... Man, he reminds me of some of the other Brazilian champs when they were at their prime. So aggressive and brutal. RDA is a monster right now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 20, 2015, 09:54:36 AM
I was shocked Cerrone folded up like that. Even after he broke loose and took a breath or two, he just looked horrified. Like he knew what was coming and had no ideas on how to stop it. Sad. I thought he was going home with it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 20, 2015, 10:01:33 AM
The crackhead thing is a running joke around my mob. Years back I made a joke that he looked like he was just a smelly rockfiend or paint huffer that they drug out of an alley to fill a place on the card. This caught on and has led to a lot of laughter for us, with jokes about him leaving a brown paper bag pint of vodka beside the octagon, security insisting he leave his shopping cart full of cans and extra blankets outside, and an entire backstory on this dog he keeps with him that they wouldn't allow in the locker room.

But I have never doubted his drive or talent. Always a bruiser when he is involved and I like em like that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 20, 2015, 02:33:13 PM
Cigano.  :'(

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on December 22, 2015, 10:33:07 AM
Was sad to see JDS lose. He came to my gym to train a bit a couple of years ago when he fought in Houston against Cain. He is just as nice as he makes himself out to be on television.

Also disappointed Cowboy lost. Dude has been working so hard for a while now. Wanted to see things work out for him. He is a hard worker though and he will be back. He went on an eight fight tear for a reason. I honestly believe he just had a bad night and COULD win if he had a good night just as easily as he lost. I can see him putting out another string of wins and coming right back.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 02, 2016, 08:48:24 PM
Who do you guys have tonight?  :o :o :o
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 02, 2016, 09:10:21 PM
Lawler              vs       Condit (this was a hard decision for me, but I've just seen lawler way more than condit)
Miocic              vs       Arlovski
Lorenz Larkin      vs      Tumenov
Abel Trujillo   vs.   Tony Sims
McDonald           vs.   Kanehara   (I always vote for the asians to win)
Kyle Noke   vs.   Alex Morono


Didn't recognize any of the other names from the prelims.


Edit: Oh, wait, I missed the fight-pass card.

Dustin Poirier   vs   Joseph Duffy   
Michinori Tanaka    vs   Joe Soto   

Though, those are probably over by now.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 02, 2016, 09:38:53 PM
I'm that way for Brasilians - I almost always choose the Brasilians to win. Your list looks similar to mine, actually. I think Lawler is going to win, but I hope Carlos does. He's a cool cat and MovNat is pretty fuckin' awesome, too!

I love Arlovski, too, but man. I don't see his glass chin being able to handle anything that might get through by Miocic. :/ I love the man in an unnatural way - but it's just gonna pan out badly for him if he gets tagged. :/
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 02, 2016, 09:53:39 PM
Holy fuck did you just see the Kanehara fight. I've never seen something like that before. Anyone who grapples know if it's common? Kanehara went from full mount to a head and arm choke, he had his arms together, he was sprawled out to the side.... McDonald slipped out straight into back mount.  :o

After McDonalds interview I'm now a huge fan of his, he gave a lot of respect to Kanehara. He needs to work on take-down defense. But his striking was good and his grappling defense was decent.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on January 02, 2016, 10:25:13 PM
Someone just IM'd me and told me to watch the McDonald fight cause they know the guy. It's recorded. Yay.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on January 03, 2016, 05:32:21 PM
Condit got robbed. This makes me sad.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Large Hero on January 03, 2016, 05:42:04 PM
Conor McGregor is Ken from Street Fighter.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 03, 2016, 05:59:48 PM
Condit got robbed. This makes me sad.

He got robbed on rounds, but not on the fight. In my opinion he lost the fight. Bad scoring/judges ended up with the right decision, imo.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 23, 2016, 12:53:41 PM
Jones is back. Anyone have theories on how he'll perform?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on April 23, 2016, 03:16:46 PM
Hoping OSP drops him but I doubt it. So long as his head is in it Jones is the most dominant fighter I have ever watched.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 23, 2016, 04:09:34 PM
I'm hoping for an upset from St. Preux, too, but that's because I just don't like Jones as person. Yeah. I know. But really, I just went to a website that says Jones has the advantage because he's 2 inches taller than OSP. I mean. Really. C'mon. Get off his dick.

LET'S SEE:
Demetrious, Barboza. The others? I dunno. I always choose the person with the longer reach. Unless it's Jones, and then I just always pick his opponent. :x
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 24, 2016, 12:03:43 AM
Fuck I love Mighty Mouse.

Oh, and I hope JJ wins just because I want to see DC vs Jones next.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 14, 2016, 02:03:37 PM
Tonight card is pretty stacked.

Maia vs Brown is actually my most anticipated fight even though I think there are better fights on the card. I've just become a huge Maia fan lately. Really want to see him succeed.


Main Card
            
Heavyweight            Fabrício Werdum (c)   vs.   Stipe Miocic      
Middleweight            Ronaldo Souza   vs.   Vitor Belfort            
Catchweight (140 lbs)   Cristiane Justino   vs.   Leslie Smith            
Light Heavyweight   Maurício Rua   vs.   Corey Anderson            
Welterweight           Warlley Alves   vs.   Bryan Barberena   
         
Preliminary Card (Fox Sports 1)
Welterweight   Demian Maia   vs.   Matt Brown            
Middleweight   Thiago Santos   vs.   Nate Marquardt            
Lightweight       Francisco Trinaldo   vs.   Yancy Medeiros            
Bantamweight   John Lineker   vs.   Rob Font   
         
Preliminary Card (UFC Fight Pass)
Light Heavyweight   Antônio Rogério Nogueira   vs.   Patrick Cummins            
Welterweight           Sérgio Moraes   vs.   Luan Chagas            
Featherweight            Renato Moicano   vs.   Zubaira Tukhugov   


Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on May 14, 2016, 04:36:29 PM
I've never liked Maia much. He reminds me of a rat when I look at him. But I love Matt Brown. I think it'll be a really good match.

And here's to hoping Miocic murders Werdum!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on May 14, 2016, 07:41:53 PM
I like Stipe for the win over Verdum. Champ will gas out early.

I have always liked Maia but I'm for Matt Brown.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on May 14, 2016, 08:00:02 PM
I like  Maia for pretty much the reason he will likely never be champ.

He is from that single discipline era and despite his efforts has sort of remained in that box. His style is nostalgic for me and so I want to see him do well.

Joe Rogan said it best though, "Maia has the whitest boxing ever.". (Or something like that.)

Guy is just awkward as shit on the feet.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 15, 2016, 12:28:48 AM
Ahhh. Kinda feel bad for Verdum, but the dude charged in and got countered. Glad for Stipe. He 100% deserves to be champ.

Tonights fights were ok, I guess. Could have been a lot better.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on May 19, 2016, 03:14:41 PM
Bisping is finally going to get his title shot. I didn't realize it but he's only two fights away from having the most fights in UFC history to his name.

As much as I've never really been a fan of his personality, I am glad to see him finally getting his shot even if it is on short notice and only because someone else got hurt and had to pull out.

He has certainly paid his dues.

I also didn't realize it until his most recent victory but Maia is actually on a tear and has put together more victories in his division consecutively as it stands than anyone else. He's one of those guys you never really think about until he shows up on a card, but he's been doing great.

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on May 19, 2016, 11:41:49 PM
Ahhh. Kinda feel bad for Verdum, but the dude charged in and got countered. Glad for Stipe. He 100% deserves to be champ.
Me with Miocic back in 2013. Cool dude. He wasn't a big star back then. I complimented him on his fight with Nelson. He seemed surprised that I knew who the fuck he was and expressed his genuine thanks. I've been hoping he'd get a title shot one day. Yeeeeee.

(https://scontent.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/1005105_10151484314065583_1466278662_n.jpg?oh=5b0b593647e5d5f4c78911f29557c4b8&oe=579BDF44)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 20, 2016, 02:48:56 AM
That's so cool. That dude is a fucking beast right now. I think he'll have a few defenses.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 05, 2016, 02:57:58 AM
What the fuck just happened
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 05, 2016, 02:20:38 PM
What the fuck just happened

This is cool. I just wish Bisping and Rockhold weren't massive assholes.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on June 05, 2016, 08:07:27 PM
Roooofl.

I about died.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on June 06, 2016, 08:40:06 AM
Good for Bisping. I didn't see it coming and certainly not by knockout. If anything I thought there was a chance he could take it to the judges and edge out a UD or more likely an SD.

I doubt he's going to dominate at the top for very long like Anderson Silva/GSP/DMJ/Aldo, but I'm glad that after all of this time he got his moment. If he retired now I wouldn't blame him.


Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on June 06, 2016, 02:11:59 PM
I don't like Bisbing anymore than the next guy but I like how he currently represents the age old upset. Who the fuck saw that coming from a bottom of the Top 10 fighter that's already lost to the champ? Man. Awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 19, 2016, 12:45:14 AM
Holy shit, Cerrone is so fun to watch.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on June 19, 2016, 12:53:45 AM
Also I really like Canadian fans at these events.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 07, 2016, 02:31:47 AM
God damnit. Jon Jones is such a fuckup.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 08, 2016, 01:42:53 PM
I only care about the Joanna fight anyway. And it's freeeeeeee.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 08, 2016, 02:01:10 PM
DC vs Silva is actually more interesting to me than DC vs Jones.

I was fairly certain Jones would grind it out again being the longer man.

I'm curious to see what happens in this fight. I am leaning towards DC stifling Anderson with wrestling and taking the decision, but at the same time I would have to be a complete fool to think Anderson couldn't win at a moment's notice at any time on any shot.

If Anderson steps in on short-notice and defeats the current LHW champ, even though it's not for the title, that makes for an interesting situation across the divisions.

This is compounded by the fact a lot of people think Anderson should have been given the nod for giving Bisping's brain the reset technically before the bell.

I think Anderson earns another shot at Bisping by default if he beats DC. Their first fight had enough controversy to make it interesting and Anderson beating the LHW champion in my opinion makes such a rematch even more intriguing.

Not to mention Anderson potentially recapturing the belt from Bisping and going back to be champion of that division he lorded over for so long is a great story.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 08, 2016, 02:10:26 PM
Poor RDA. :(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 08, 2016, 08:11:59 PM
Poor RDA. :(

He looked sharp and badass like usual so I don't feel too bad. Getting caught happens. He didn't even really make a mistake(like Aldo did), that hook cam in right over his guard and snagged his chin.

Also what the fuck, his body was doing everything it could to survive while his brain was just turned off. That's some amazing heart.

I love Joey Diaz's reaction:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVmiydHQE-w

He's right you have to fucking kill some of these bastards to get them to go down.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 09, 2016, 01:23:15 AM
Love Joanna so much......

(http://www4.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20160708103253_GettyImages545611026.JPG)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 09, 2016, 08:08:58 AM
Holy shit, what a punch.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 09, 2016, 12:58:58 PM
I really thought it was a spectacular fight. I think they're both great fighters, who have a tenacity and grit that is great for women's MMA.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 09, 2016, 11:17:01 PM
Aldo's back baby!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 10, 2016, 06:50:58 PM
Aldo's back baby!

I would have liked to see a little less running.

He fucked Frankie's face up, I give him that, but it doesn't take a lot to fuck up someone's face in MMA. Getting your face fucked up is a matter of three or four hits to really come out looking like shit.

I think Aldo was there to score points, stay on the outside, and make the decision safely.

Frankie showed up to try and win a fight.

Aldo played his game, and good for him, it worked beautifully.

It was little too Floyd Mayweather for me though in terms of if I would have paid to watch it again, I wouldn't have. I was looking forward to that fight until I realized only one guy showed up to try and win a fist fight and the other showed up to try and score safe points.

He's a better fighter than Frankie, I just wish I had seen him do a bit more fighting.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 10, 2016, 07:51:27 PM
Can you blame him after the last fight?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on July 11, 2016, 08:53:20 AM
Can you blame him after the last fight?

Absolutely not. I understand he did the smart thing to ensure he won the match. I'm just saying I wouldn't pay to watch it again.

I recognize Floyd Mayweather as an amazing boxer, but you would have to pay me a few dollars to sit through an entire boxing match if he were in it.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on July 11, 2016, 12:07:48 PM
I wish they'd shown more of Joanna during TUF. She was the only reason I watched. Her weird ESL pronunciation cracks me the hell up.

"I will punch your face so hard." To Claudia.

Or

"You fight like pussy." To the light heavyweights she was training.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: SuchDragonWow on July 30, 2016, 06:08:21 PM
So I'm working the UFC fight tonight.  I was putting some mics on the pads, and this guy is boxing around in the ring.  He comes over to me.

"Hey, did they put the sticky stuff on yet?"
"I don't know.  I didn't see him do it, though."
"Cool, thanks."

People were taking pics and stuff of him and he looked familiar, but it didn't click until I saw a poster that it was Woodley.  Ha, ya boy got it like that.

Nice guy, too, I hope he wins.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 30, 2016, 06:13:02 PM
Dude that is awesome! It's always good to hear a fighter is nice.

I like Woodley and Lawler both. But I want Lawler to win because I like dominant champions, and Woodley isn't enough of an underdog to get me to root for him that way.

This card seems a bit non-stacked. I probably won't be tuning in until the main fight.

What is this sticky stuff though?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: SuchDragonWow on July 30, 2016, 06:14:43 PM
No idea.  Lol.  I just smiled and said I don't know.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 30, 2016, 06:16:53 PM
I assume it's something to keep the mat from being slippery.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: SuchDragonWow on July 30, 2016, 06:22:42 PM
Yeah that would be a good guess.  I actually nearly fell off the octagon once because you have to take your shoes off in the ring and that outside ring is slippery as fuck with socks on.

Anyway, I did all the sound effects, so if it sounds like shit, neener, I get paid either way.  :D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on August 20, 2016, 09:22:51 AM
(http://www2.cdn.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/20160819053757_1DX_9306.JPG)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 20, 2016, 07:58:22 PM
Are they 16 year old girls? Because, really, this shit is absurd. Flinging water bottles at press conferences is cool, bros.

And, lol, Brock Lesnar challenges Conor to fight during an interview today.

If my children ever act like this, they're going to be returned to sender.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 20, 2016, 08:26:07 PM
All I care about is the fights. Can't wait for the main card.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 20, 2016, 10:04:36 PM
I'M SO FUCKING HYPED


Cowboy's a beast at 170 baby WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 21, 2016, 12:40:16 AM
except he's dropping back down again. so.................................
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 21, 2016, 01:02:36 AM
For a title fight, I'm okay with it.


The main fight was a bit of a letdown. It was a good fight, and I think McGregor won, but I'm just a bit disappointed that Diaz didn't get more off in round 4. He was basically blind, props to him for fighting through that.

After round 2 I thought Diaz had it in the bag, but McGregor showed some heart.

I scored it 1, 2, 4 for Conor, but round 2 was really close.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 21, 2016, 12:18:58 PM
I had it scored 3-2 for Diaz but I hate them both. Good fight, shitty people.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 06, 2016, 06:38:13 PM
I haven't been following the CM Punk thing very closely, I wasn't very interested. I did however watch some training videos of his today.

He has what we refer to as "awkward body economy". He doesn't move well. There is a difference between guys who need to learn better form, and guys with awkward body economy.

It's as if their bodies are just confused about "how to body".

Usually guys with awkward body economy will always have it and it's not a good thing. It makes your striking awkward, and not in a good way. Usually you will never develop any power and you will forever just be a sloppy fuck. The more exhausted you get the worse it gets too. Guys with great body economy get more sloppy the more tired they get. Guys like Punk who get tired just completely fall to pieces. You can slap them around like children at that point with little effort.

If he is going to win this fight it is almost certainly going to be on the ground and I didn't see any ground training videos of his to give me any real details.

I can say that if you are putting money down, I feel very safe telling you to put it down on Punk's opponent. He moves like one of the guys who walk into the gym and you just know they are never going to be any good.

Now watch the fucker go out and land a surprise flash knockout and make me eat my words. It could happen, but safe money absolutely is not on it. He moves like a sub-par amateur fighter at best.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 07, 2016, 01:19:11 PM
Lawler vs Cowboy at UFC 205. That's going to be awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 07, 2016, 01:52:26 PM
Lawler vs Cowboy at UFC 205. That's going to be awesome.

Awwww yisssss.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 11, 2016, 01:09:25 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7YiqCAAU--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/yolwizcdoisg4dz8fnl4.gif)

LOL. I'm glad someone kicked that fool.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: The Warshaper on September 11, 2016, 03:07:24 AM
I didn't get to see this, was the short guy the cut doc that shoved him away or the ref? :D
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on September 11, 2016, 11:16:47 AM
(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--7YiqCAAU--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/yolwizcdoisg4dz8fnl4.gif)

LOL. I'm glad someone kicked that fool.
What a piece of shit.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 11, 2016, 12:22:41 PM
I didn't get to see this, was the short guy the cut doc that shoved him away or the ref? :D

Ref.

And which one, IF? Edmond was running his mouth. That wasn't a contact kick. That was a, 'get the fuck away from me,' kick. Apparently, Edmond was muted because of the horrible shit he was saying in Travis' corner. That man is a god damned mess.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on September 11, 2016, 12:24:39 PM
Brock Refner.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on September 11, 2016, 12:33:07 PM
Boog: I guess you're a fan of the Scrap Pack post-fight brawl, too?  ???

A fighter shouldn't be touching coaches. Idgaf what he was saying. That guy's an idiot, I get it, but fighters can't legally hit his opponent's team like this is WWE. (lol CM Punk.)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on September 11, 2016, 01:06:13 PM
Edmond is such a piece of shit. I'm not a fan of it. I didn't see it at first. I'm chuckling at it now because Edmond's a dink. And he hangs out with the dinkiest of fighters and makes them dinky with his dinkishness.

No, no one should be kicking people, but he shouldn't be approaching someone to engage, either. Chill, bros.

And aw. CM Punk. What a shame. Also, I liked how much Mickey dropped the F-bomb. It made me swoon.

Also, nah. He looks more like Lex Luger than Brock Lesnar, RGS.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Desertman on September 11, 2016, 04:59:33 PM
Yeah, you don't pull that shit. He needs a hefty fine and suspension. "He was coming to attack me bro!" is laughable and silly. The guy wasn't moving any closer to him. The corner man had stopped and was talking shit from a distance. The fighter actually then walked over to put himself in range to push-kick the guy because he's a piece of shit. If anything the corner man has a better case for "defending myself" than the fighter does. The only person that moved to engage anyone was the fighter intentionally walking over to attack the corner man (who had already completely stopped several feet away). He needs the book thrown at him.

The corner man also needs a fine for shit talking a fighter after a fight/antagonizing a fighter post fight while still in the cage.

Neither of those things should be happening post fight.


Also, I was a bit disappointed to see CM Punk go out like a sissy bitch, more or less. I expected it to happen, but I had started to appreciate his personality and it endeared him to me somewhat. I wanted him to be able to put up a little bit more of a scrap just to save face. (Still, respect for stepping in the cage against a trained fighter. When it was first announced I thought for sure it would never actually see the light of day.)

He should take some under promotion fights if he's serious, see how that goes, get a little cage time, and come back to the UFC on some under cards, but I doubt that will happen. He doesn't need the money and he's a bit old to start from the base studs and build up.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: bardbard#4 on September 11, 2016, 06:39:10 PM
God dammit Lawler is out of 205.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on September 11, 2016, 06:51:43 PM
Very happy for Stipe. Great man in general. Fantastic fighter.

Travis Browne needs a new camp ASAP.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on September 29, 2016, 12:08:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOc1LkgiF3k
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on October 02, 2016, 01:28:40 AM
 I feel like Dodson won that fight. He evaded most of the strikes, did more damage, landed more, had better footwork and more diverse striking. I feel like moving forward was all Lineker did better, and I hardly consider the direction someone is moving as an indicator of a better fighter.

I didn't like how Dodson willingly gave up back mount though. That was weird.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 13, 2016, 01:41:59 AM
For some reason every time Conor wins a fight I can't help but think he's not quite proven himself. I want to see him vs Khabib.

Still can't deny he's an amazing fighter though. He completely outclassed Eddie tonight.

Edit: Daamn. This might be the best post-fight interview ever: https://oddshot.tv/shot/UzqO5_MaO59Gi5n4wZ4BkcaA (https://oddshot.tv/shot/UzqO5_MaO59Gi5n4wZ4BkcaA)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on November 13, 2016, 04:53:30 PM
...okay. no. I can't talk about it or I'll get mad.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: The Warshaper on December 31, 2016, 01:10:50 AM
WTF did I just watch.  >:(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: bardbard#4 on December 31, 2016, 08:53:06 AM
I've seen punching bags with more head movement than Ronda had last night.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on December 31, 2016, 01:28:23 PM
Everyone is crowing about Rousey getting hers. It was awesome and I hate her but I think the real story of the night was Garbrandt wrecking shop on Cruz. I have followed and enjoyed watching Cruz for a long time but I never expected him to get demolished like that.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 31, 2016, 01:44:39 PM
Yeah. I'm weeping. I love Dom so much. :(
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 01, 2017, 03:40:24 PM
I loved the showboating Cody delivered that fight.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 01, 2017, 04:20:13 PM
I detest that shit so much. The only dude who could ever do that well was the Spider. Otherwise, it just seems so lame.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: The Warshaper on January 01, 2017, 08:26:35 PM
I detest that shit so much. The only dude who could ever do that well was the Spider. Otherwise, it just seems so lame.


Agreed. Until there is a rule against it though, which will never happen because hype hype money hype, it's a legitimate tool to use to try and win the fight. Tasteless though it may be.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on January 01, 2017, 09:51:39 PM
I mean, if you can get away with pulling dance moves while in middle of the gritty ass fight without getting knocked unconscious, and then going on to secure the win, it's totally awesome in my book. It gives people character and makes them more interesting than your typical fighter.

That said its very dependent on the fighter for me. I don't like when McCregor does it. I love when Diaz does it. And I'm always a bigger fan of respectful, kind fighters, like Daniel Cormier, or Stipe Miocic.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on January 02, 2017, 07:06:36 PM
I love respectful fighters. But maybe that's because I took martial arts and was taught always to respect my opponent.

I was literally so mad about Dom losing. So. Fucking. Mad. Since Big Nog's gone, I've needed someone to make my heart melt when I watch them fight.

ALAS. WHO THE FUCK IS GONNA DO THAT FOR ME NOW? I HAVE A REALLY SPECIFIC SET OF CRITERIA.

...Oh, right. Nunes. I have a crush on Amanda Nunes. And fuck everyone saying she's not marketable because she's boyish looking and a lesbian. Fuck them in their shit holes.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 21, 2017, 09:54:57 PM
Do I brave UFC 209 with the kids at B-Dubs? They were so good last time, except littlest boogy wanted to go into the ladies' bathroom so he could watch himself sing in the full length mirror a little too often.

Suga's fighting. I'm more interested in that than maybe even the main event.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on February 22, 2017, 01:01:52 AM
Can you post the dates and matches? So lazy to google....

I do want to see the Woodley/Thompson rematch. That was such a great first fight. It was the last UFC I've seen, actually.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on February 22, 2017, 08:19:12 AM
I'm hopeful that 209 will be won by Wonder Boy Thompson. While Woodley has a crazily wicked sense of space and range and has that punch that can smoke you out in one, I think that Thompson is overall a better fighter. If his hips weren't so damn tall he would probably be a great jiu-jitsu practitioneer. What a great match it was. I think that if Thompson marks his distance and is very elusive (moving a LOT to avoid that one big punch that rocked him) he will do great. Avoid high kicks, destroy the leg. The good Renan Barao tactic against Urijah Faber, known wrestler. The difference is that this guy can punch so just move a lot.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 22, 2017, 11:06:38 AM
Can you post the dates and matches? So lazy to google....

I do want to see the Woodley/Thompson rematch. That was such a great first fight. It was the last UFC I've seen, actually.

03/04/17

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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 22, 2017, 04:39:08 PM
I can't freaking wait. This is a stacked card.

Real curious to see how Lando Vanatta does, he looked sharp Vs Ferguson. I think Ferguson vs Khabib is going to be an amazing fight. Can go either way but I'm hoping for a Khabib win.

Hunt Vs Reem is just awesome but I fear for Hunt.

I'm actually least excited for the Main event. I don't think Wonderboy has anything for Woodley. It'll go much the same as the first or possibly worse.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 22, 2017, 04:47:20 PM
I've got Wonderboy for this.

Eagle, Evans, Reem. I gotta look more closely into the others when I'm at a computer.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on February 22, 2017, 05:02:52 PM
Eagle, Evans, Reem, Woodley, Vanata for me. Going with Vanata because I don't know the other guy and he looked good against El Cucuy.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 05, 2017, 01:00:52 AM
eh

prelims were better
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on March 05, 2017, 06:33:41 PM
The prelims were sick! The main fight was... IDK. I'd like to say I enjoyed the tactical sense of it. I did not. What a monster that Darren Elkins is.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 05, 2017, 06:59:45 PM
Yep. I fell asleep multiple times during the main fight. Hah.

I was sad about Rashad, but Dan's a good fighter! I thought Rashad would be quicker than he was. I guess he's getting up there.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on March 05, 2017, 07:51:14 PM
I mean, there was a tiny part of me that was a little bit irritated at the time that the corner of Woodley was literally shouting at him "go, you cannot keep putting your back against the fence" and the first thing he did when Stephen changed of stance was put his back against the cage. So at the time I was really focused on hoping Tyron lost on points, but then I reflected that if Thompson's title fight had been won through that method, it would've been pretty lame for him too.

I'm just sad that after the Vannata fight, the main event couldn't live to the expectation, considering Ferguson-Khabib's drop-down.

Also, man, those Dan takedowns were crazy. He's got skills. I expected him to win. The best memory I have of that event is still Darren Elkins absolutely battered up standing up after KOing stiff a super younger opponent that had been mauling him for the entirety of the fight, shouting like Chuck Lidell.

I thought the event was going to go down as another underrated good card. Alas.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 05, 2017, 09:06:33 PM
When you fight out of Portage, Indiana, you almost have to be good. There's nothing else there. Northwest Indiana is a fucking cesspool.

I was super surprised at his performance. I'm trying to think of who else rocked, but um, I go right back to the prelims. The main card was meh. Poor Hunt.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on March 05, 2017, 11:45:17 PM
I really really enjoyed the co-main event. I mean, Vannata's style wasn't the most intelligent, but he's such a showman! After that, I guess it was really all... meh. I'm kind of perked up for this weekend's fight night though. I like Belfort and Gastellum.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 06, 2017, 01:04:43 AM
I hope Gastellum makes weight. Heh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on March 06, 2017, 01:41:01 AM
LOL. There's a chance the main event of that fight will crumble.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Aruven on March 08, 2017, 02:08:17 AM
I went to Las Vegas and watched UFC 209 --> Super good time, I can't believe people are saying (LIKE DANA WHITE) Thompson deserved the belt?

---> BISPING VS GSP <---------
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Tuannon on March 08, 2017, 04:08:37 AM
I'd like to see Mark Hunt beat Overeem, but I don't think he's much change from 50 years old. So chances are not great.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on March 08, 2017, 08:33:18 AM
Overeem knocked him smooth out. I like Hunt but he was focused too much on bitching at the UFC. I agree with him,but focus yo.

211 is going to be good.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 08, 2017, 12:14:20 PM
211 is going to be good.

Yes. My boyfriend for the title. Ahhh, Junior.  :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on March 09, 2017, 11:46:02 AM
I'm one of those guys who thinks that Thompson won. In the old rules, the control of the octagon was considered (paraphrasing Woodley, literally) as actively pressing. In that regard, Thompson did 'much more' than the champ. That said, I lost a lot of love for Wonderboy, sadly, but I understand why he did what he did. And if he had won, it wouldn't have been the best start for his reign. Woodley did beat the shit out of him in one single round.

So cool that you were there, Aruven!

And OMG 211 is so exciting so far and the card's not even full yet.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on March 12, 2017, 11:10:56 AM
Edson is a god. I remember watching his first UFC fight and knowing right away that he was something special. I'm proud he's going far!

and lol, who didn't see Vitor's KO coming?

Alright, guys. Who's gonna pop for shady drugs post fight event? Anyone? Anyone?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on April 08, 2017, 05:35:38 PM
Bloop.

Picks, lovelies?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on April 08, 2017, 11:25:04 PM
Oh shit I forgot this was today.

I pick Mousasi and DC, since those fights are still left.

Edit: Huh. Weird night.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 17, 2017, 01:50:00 AM
Big Rose fan. Glad she won. Those are some good pre-fight pep talks she gets.

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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Melkor on April 25, 2017, 12:01:28 AM
Anybody else psyched for Fedor's next fight? The Mitrione fight was rescheduled for june, right?
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on April 30, 2017, 10:15:56 AM
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Getting fucking hype for UFC 211. Joanna and my boy Stipe fighting.


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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on May 06, 2017, 08:42:00 PM
Someones comment on reddit made me giggle.

In response to "Chael is good":

"Yeah he dominated Silva for even longer than Daniel Cormier did."
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 29, 2017, 07:21:45 PM
IM SO FUCKIGN HYPED THIS CARD IS BONKERS.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 29, 2017, 07:22:50 PM
I want DC to win SOOOOOOO badly.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 29, 2017, 08:52:12 PM
Me too. But he won't. Dana is so bent for Jon Jones. Bleh.

Guess I'll watch and see what happens anyway.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 29, 2017, 08:57:14 PM
2 fights into the Prelims and they're both great fights. This card is going to be awesome.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on July 30, 2017, 01:21:50 AM
Was a brutal end to the fight. Jon Jones is one bad motherfucker.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on July 30, 2017, 01:34:31 AM
Meh.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on July 30, 2017, 02:30:45 AM
I felt awful for DC. Dude poured it on and looked great. Against any other lh on their best day he would have dominated. I dislike Jones but have never doubted he is the greatest of all time. His personal life aside, he is a magnificent fighter and I love to watch him.

Cerrone got robbed. Lawler is a douche.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 22, 2017, 10:42:33 PM
Oh, look who failed yet another drug test.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on August 23, 2017, 12:11:38 AM
Them penis pills, boog.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on August 23, 2017, 02:02:16 AM
He's such an idiot. He has all the money, fame, everything in the world, and yet he can't be humble enough to get help. He doesn't want to be a role model, fine, but...

Whatever. I feel worse for DC. He was doing much better than the last time they touched gloves and the roids probably threw a variable into the mix and it's just -- shitty. Fucking shitty.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on August 23, 2017, 01:02:02 PM
Im not surprised. Jon Jones is done for. What an asshole.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 04, 2017, 04:37:32 PM
Bisbing vs GSP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0jNnzR784o



JJ vs Rose

https://youtu.be/yHaDvOBcmC0


Super excited about the JJ fight!!!
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 04, 2017, 04:56:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nk0-piiwvJ8

Some analysis! :)
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on November 04, 2017, 06:37:25 PM
I'm just incredibly pumped for pretty much /all/ the main card which is nuts. It's been a while since I've looked forward to an entire card, no fight excluded.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on November 04, 2017, 06:37:51 PM
That said I don't expect GSP to last more than 1 round, as much as I'd want him to win.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 05, 2017, 12:07:47 AM
Damn. What an upset.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 05, 2017, 12:51:44 AM
I don't know what to believe anymore.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on November 05, 2017, 12:54:47 AM
This was an awesome card. Wowee.

Everyone I was hoping would win, won. Except that JJ vs thug fight. That was nuts.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on November 05, 2017, 08:49:36 AM
100% the best UFC event I've seen in my entire life. My heart just couldn't stop racing. I'm still extremely shocked.

I'm kind of Team Rose but I've always liked JJ as a champ. Man she works so hard for everything, seeing her knocked out was so rough, but her attitude afterwards was incredible.

AND GSP MAN! @_@
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 05, 2017, 09:48:30 AM
Yeah that was a fat card.

My only complaint is No Love getting wrecked. I want to see that one again in 3 months. His neck tattoo is stupid but I think he wrecks Dillashaw next time out.

My voice is gone from cheering all night. Best card in years if not ever.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Aruven on November 07, 2017, 06:27:57 AM
My man GSP back in action!

Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: WarriorPoet on November 09, 2017, 12:05:09 AM
Frankie is out of 218 and Cruz is pulling from 219 as we speak.

I am going to have to start watching gymnastics or something.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on November 09, 2017, 12:15:02 AM
smh. The bane of MMA is injuries.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on February 04, 2018, 12:56:04 AM
Never thought I'd miss Goldberg commentating.

These guys are fucking horrible.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 30, 2018, 12:01:37 AM
I fucking love this sport.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: deskoft on December 30, 2018, 12:03:49 AM
DID YOU FUCKING SEE THAT
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 30, 2018, 12:32:27 AM
Ummm..  Which... Part?  ???
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 30, 2018, 12:35:16 AM
I fucking hate this sport.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 30, 2018, 12:37:18 AM
JJ will just piss hot again after beating someone on the back of the head. Yawn. There was nothing about that fight that made me interested. Scummy.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: RogueGunslinger on December 30, 2018, 12:45:01 AM
If you go belly down and start covering up like that... Eh. They weren't intentional back of head shots. But still. It really sucks that the best mma fighter of all time is a cheater, a snitch, and a lying, smug asshole.
Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: boog on December 30, 2018, 12:54:12 AM
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Title: Re: The Official MMA Thread
Post by: Is Friday on December 31, 2018, 07:26:50 AM
Me and my wife got a picture with Jon Jones because Rousey had to leave and we caught him coming in. (Pre-controversy Jones, mind you.) My favorite is with Stipe, though. That was just after his Roy Nelson fight--got a genuine vibe from him.