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Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: on April 29, 2003, 09:31:57 PM
Ive run into a number of items that I believe I should be able to craft, but analyze either produces a "Huh?" or "What?" I forget, or the following situation that results in a blank line like:

<Prompt> analyze object (hit return)
<Prompt>

Does this mean that I might be able to craft the object just my skill isnt great enough? Or does it mean it is something that I should be able to craft but isnt coded that way. (i.e. it is a "weapon" type, but doesnt have craft code along with it to be recognized by the "weaponcrafting" skill.)

And being such are players allowed to submit via the template, a craft code snippet for these objects? Or are some things made also intentionally not to be crafted, yet sold in bulk.
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: Shinigami on April 29, 2003, 09:43:42 PM
http://www.zalanthas.org/ArmDocs/Community/format.html#crafting

Usually, the huh? or whatever messages mean that analyze hasn't been implemented on the item.  Though that might also mean you don't have the available skill related to it... I'm not a coder so I'll let one of them tackle it.

The above page shows you how to submit crafting things, for both existing objects and ones you make up on your own.  We're always happy to get both.  Hope that answers some of your questions.

-Shinigami
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: Gorobei on April 30, 2003, 12:19:46 AM
People keep getting 'Huh?' when they analyze objects.  This has never happened to me.
If you analyze something, it can be crafted and you have the right skill, you will get a list of the combos that can make that item:
<prompt>
That appears to be made from a rock and another rock.
That appears to be made from a rock and sexual healing.

If you analyze something, it can be crafted and you don't have the right skill, it'll give you something along the lines of:  'You cannot tell how that is made.'

If you analyze something and it can't be crafted, it gives you a blank space.

Huh? has never appeared for me (and I've tried hard to get it to appear, for the purposes of this post).  Maybe you're not holding the object right, or you're misspelling the command, or there're psychic disruptions... who knows.
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: creeper386 on April 30, 2003, 01:04:38 AM
Quote from: "Gorobei"
If you analyze something, it can be crafted and you don't have the right skill, it'll give you something along the lines of: 'You cannot tell how that is made.'


I've NEVER received that... I've either seen what the object is made out of, a huh? or what? I'm not sure which, OR a blank line. I don't know the difference between a blank line and the huh? or what? and have asked before and either never got a straight answer... Or forgot. Might still be about if you search for it.

Creeper
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: The7DeadlyVenomz on April 30, 2003, 03:12:09 AM
It is likely that you did not spell it correctly. That is the only reason that Huh? or What? would ever appear on your screen when using this command, analyze.
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: X-D on April 30, 2003, 10:24:06 AM
Huh and what are the unrecognized imput returns, you probly spelled it wrong, the nul message or blank return means the item is not craftable, this is per Sanvean, but I am too lazy to find her post and quote it, Items that you do not have the skill in one way or another to craft and are craftable will give you one of a couple messages telling you so, and in a way, they even tell you why.


Also, by my estimate, less then 30% of items in game currently are craftable, So, by all means, making crafting submissions for existing items, I think Sanvean also made a call for them a while back...hey Sanvean, how is that going?
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: RideTheDivide on April 30, 2003, 11:16:13 AM
Analyze should have four possible results:
1)  Tells you what its made from - you have the skill to make it
2)  Says you have some idea but aren't sure - you have the right skill but not at a hight enough level
3)  You can't tell - its craftable but you don't have that skill
4)  Blank - its not craftable.

That's my understanding - but it could be incorrect...
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: crymerci on April 30, 2003, 01:45:09 PM
Also keep in mind that analyze itself is a skill. If you get a recipe I don't think it's ever a wrong recipe, but you can "not be sure" how to make something when analyzing it right after you get done crafting it.
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: creeper386 on April 30, 2003, 06:17:25 PM
Quote from: "X-D"
Huh and what are the unrecognized imput returns, you probly spelled it wrong, the nul message or blank return means the item is not craftable, this is per Sanvean, but I am too lazy to find her post and quote it, Items that you do not have the skill in one way or another to craft and are craftable will give you one of a couple messages telling you so, and in a way, they even tell you why.


Well, I remember the null one means it's not craftable, but you can get the Huh? or What? even if you spell it right but I can't remember why you get that. And again, I've never received anything besides those two things and it being craftable... So guess either I was a bad ass crafter, or it wasn't craftable... SHRUG. Most weren't craftable... But I've recieved they Huh? or What? when I SPELLED it right, and when I had both the analyze skill skill and the right crafting skills for the object. SHRUG.

Creeper
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: X-D on April 30, 2003, 07:58:59 PM
Well, that is odd then creeper, I have never gotten it except when I had done something wrong syntax/spelling wise....also, if you are weaponscrafter sub, you can make any type of weapon pierce/slash/knife/chop/polearms and more, but you cannot make the simplest weapons known to man, blundgeaning, yup, can carve down some bone and make a nicely balanced and deadly throwing dagger or sword but not a simple club or staff...sigh.

Funny thing is, I know of some craftable blunt weapons, probly merchant only or somesuch...bugs me, can't take a big stick and carve one end down to a handle and beat something to death..ok, I'll shut up now:)
Title: Crafting, Analyze, Submissions
Post by: crymerci on May 01, 2003, 04:09:00 AM
Perhaps the "Huh?" or "What?" that people are experiencing is not due to misspelling, per se, but the use of a nonexistent keyword, or the addition of punctuation, i.e. "analyze spear." Just a thought.